User talk:UrbanVillager

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October 2010
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The Weight of Chains
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pls email
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weight of chains II
I've responded to you on the talk page for the weight of chains article.Sleetman (talk) 04:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Balkans warning
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This kind of an edit is unacceptable, no matter how you characterized those sources on Talk. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 09:34, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Boris Malagurski - the article
My revision is based on pure facts about the case pending appeal. The facts are public, open to public scrutiny and relevant to the article about the author. On the other hand, however, your user account is being investigated as a potential sock puppet of Boris Malagurski wich makes your "undo-revisions" questionable. I have reported this incident as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.66.8 (talk) 08:02, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Why did you remove these facts from "your" article on Boris Malagurski??

Do these facts hurt your business? Boris Malagurski does have a Croatian passport, thus, he is a Croatian citizen.

Why did you remove SAP Vojvodina from the "pretty picture"? -- 17:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.235.54.49 (talk)

Assuming good faith
Please remember to assume good faith in your interactions with other editors. Specifically, please don't characterize a difference of opinion on the content or categorization of an article as vandalism, as you did in this edit summary's comment on User:Bobrayner's edit.

That said, why are you wasting your time engaging with User:Opbeith on his user talk page and on Talk:The Weight of Chains? As you've examined his contribution history you already know perfectly well that his condemnation of others distoring, manipulating, and misrepresenting facts is entirely disingenuous; he's shown himself to have no compunctions whatsoever in introducing into articles his own factual distortions and misrepresentations when they serve to advance his point of view. His criticisms of your edits are grounded in neither Wikipedia policy nor reason itself, nor (as you have discovered) is he willing or able to identify specific problems with the article text, even when pressed with direct requests to do so. As long as he's not editing the article itself, and (not having actually seen the film) is in no position to make any informed contributions to the section he takes issue with, why respond to the kibbitzing? —Psychonaut (talk) 10:25, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Psychonaut, you're absolutely right. :) Thanks for the advice, and for alerting me about Opbeith's contribution history, I'll try to ignore his pointless comments from now on. Cheers, --UrbanVillager (talk) 23:50, 1 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Me too. (And I knew he wouldn't be able to resist commenting here with more of his usual dissembling and disingenuous protestations of ignorance.)  Just ignore him as long as he's not actively interfering in article space. —Psychonaut (talk) 09:37, 2 November 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm interested to find you intervening here, Psychonaut, and particularly to find you supporting UrbanVillagers' approach to editing. Interested also that you find my interventions disingenuous compared with UrbanVillager's. You consider UrbanVillager's contributions to the Boris Malagurski and The Weight of Chains articles consistent with the spirt of Wikipedia and my reaction to them spurious.   That's no real surprise to me, given my impression from our encounters over the years.  Perhaps you'd remind me of my lack of compunction in introducing factual distortions and misrepresentations that serve my own point of view.  If you've any reasonable examples I'm happy to remove them. Opbeith (talk) 00:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
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November 2012
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If the material is available on a different site that satisfies one of the above conditions, link to that site instead. You included numerous Youtube links violating copyright all the while lecturing others for the same thing. -- ◅ PRODUCER  ( TALK ) 19:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * User:PRODUCER was correct to remove the links within the references because of the above-noted copyright concerns. However, copyright concerns alone don't justify the removal of the remainder of the reference.  You would likely be acting within policy to restore references (minus links to unauthorized copies) to any reliable sources.  I have notified PRODUCER about this and suggested that he do so himself, though it appears he also disputes that some or all of the sources are reliable. —Psychonaut (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I understand. --UrbanVillager (talk) 20:38, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

When adding links to material on external sites, as you did to Serbian Canadians, please ensure that the external site is not violating the creator's copyright. Linking to websites that display copyrighted works is acceptable as long as the website's operator has created or licensed the work. Knowingly directing others to a site that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement. This is particularly relevant when linking to sites such as YouTube, where due care should be taken to avoid linking to material that violates its creator's copyright. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. If you believe the linked site is not violating copyright with respect to the material, then you should do one of the following:
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If the material is available on a different site that satisfies one of the above conditions, link to that site instead. -- ◅ PRODUCER  ( TALK ) 17:44, 24 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Apologies, didn't notice the link was on Malagurski's website. Regards, --UrbanVillager (talk) 17:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
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Hello, I'm Jim1138. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bormalagurski without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Jim1138 (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.255.57.233 (talk) 10:24, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

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You, Malagurski
You, Boris Malagurski, are a proven liar, cheater and fraudster. --Mladifilozof (talk) 19:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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Pots and kettles
Such as here, at least Bob was actually involved. Pincrete (talk) 21:07, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

Consensus for your recent removal at The Weight of Chains?


Hello UrbanVillager. Both you and Pincrete were warned about making changes without consensus at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive255.

Recently you've been making unilateral changes in the Reviews section with no evidence that anyone except you supports the changes. For example, [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Weight_of_Chains&diff=625074593&oldid=625068365 here] you said you were 'removing Pavlica per talk'. It is evident that Pincrete wants Pavlica to remain in the article. Can you link to anyone supporting your removal of Pavlica? If not, I advise you to restore the material to avoid sanctions. EdJohnston (talk) 13:42, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Ed, can I ask you if blogs and bloggers described as "idiots" by those same blog editors are allowed on Wikipedia just because a Wikipedia editor wants them there? If so, please let me know, and I'll re-add it, since I thought Wikipedia guidelines were not a matter of consensus. And in that case, I will apologize and restore the Pavlica blog post. Regards, --UrbanVillager (talk) 22:07, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You should restore the Pavlica material. WP:Edit warring is a policy and it takes precedence over guidelines. The question on whether to include the Pavlica material can be settled through consensus. The steps of WP:Dispute resolution are available to you if you believe it doesn't belong. EdJohnston (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I restored the Pavlica material while I was waiting for clarification. Thank you. And I will see about going through the steps of WP:Dispute resolution, as I'm afraid this issue can't be settled in any other way at this point. --UrbanVillager (talk) 22:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Apologies UrbanVillager, the fault for this may be mine, I haven't restored the .jpg to the page, but I did insert a 'diff' which may reference the .jpg. I will contact Stefan2 and explain, and if necessary remove the 'diff'.Pincrete (talk) 12:19, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


 * It appears this wasn't my fault after all, I leave the matter therefore to you and Stefan2. Pincrete (talk) 13:28, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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WP:ANI
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Topic ban
Ok, pursuant to this discussion, you are now banned from making any edits on any Boris Malagurski-related articles. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:31, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The close of the topic ban has been reverted.  was involved and should not have closed that discussion.  GB fan 19:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Blocked
Since you have roundly ignored the topic ban as imposed above, I have blocked you, for an initial period of 48 hours. If you go on ignoring the restriction after that, blocks will very quickly escalate towards indefinite. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * (Sorry though for not posting this notification immediately after the block; I got interrupted while typing it.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:26, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Fut.Perf., the ban has been lifted: Please unblock me. --UrbanVillager (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I have unblocked as the topic ban was not properly enacted. GB fan 19:38, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you, User:GB fan! Regards, --UrbanVillager (talk) 19:41, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Sorry indeed for imposing this block in the mistaken assumption the ban was valid; those responsible for the reversion of the ban failed to leave any notice here, so I had no way of knowing it had been superceded. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:01, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That's OK. I really freaked out when I saw that I was blocked, I couldn't believe that it happened, I pride myself on respecting decisions in the Wikipedia community as well as Wikipedia rules. Glad this was quickly sorted out. --UrbanVillager (talk) 20:04, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Boris Malagurski
While the topic ban has been lifted, it is certainly under discussion. How about you voluntarily refrain from editing the topic for now as a show of good faith?--v/r - TP 19:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I hereby voluntarily promise to not edit Malagurski-related articles until the discussion has concluded. --UrbanVillager (talk) 19:59, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * TP, too bad my sourced edits (the ones made before the above given promise) get reverted right away with a "Knock it off UrbanVillager" reasoning, briefly explaining why one part of my edits are reverted (the merge of two sections in which one section contains only one listing) and then the deletion of two sourced listings (festivals) with absolutely no discussion on the talk page by the editor who reverted. Still, I'll refrain from editing, but you can see what happens on a daily basis - disruption, disruption and disruption when all I do is add referenced material that I thoroughly back up on talk pages (in this case, and, and as for the merge, well, it just made more sense). --UrbanVillager (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * That you can step back will reflect positively on the discussion at ANI. Perhaps editing another topic for awhile and just making a straight forward case on ANI is the best way forward right now.--v/r - TP 20:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Though I already wrote my opinion regarding the ban, so I'll let other editors voice their views and will move on to other topics until the matter is resolved. Thanks again. --UrbanVillager (talk) 20:45, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

November 2014
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 * Psychonaut, I thought that article was erased a while back and redirected to The Weight of Chains, so how was something removed now when everything was removed a while back? I do remember gathering some information only about the film's synopsis from the film's website (I added the source), I couldn't describe something in my own words when I haven't seen the film (it hasn't come out yet, as far as I know), and it was tricky to even re-phrase stuff from the website because the topic wasn't even that clear to me. In any case, I was hoping that this could improve as more information about the film comes out, but the article was quickly blanked and redirected. If and when the article does become active again, I'll just avoid using the official website as a source for anything other than technical specifics regarding the film. In any case, I've promised not to edit Malagurski-related articles until a decision is made whether I should be banned from those articles and I will respect Wikipedia guidelines. Thanks for the heads-up. Regards, --UrbanVillager (talk) 15:44, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

The Weight of Chains / Balkans
-- slakr \ talk / 09:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Slakr, I'm just curious - my edits have nothing to do with the Balkans, but rather with a film that discusses the Balkans. I never talked about the war in Yugoslavia nor do I intend to edit on Wikipedia regarding the matter - what I'm interested in are Malagurski's films that do talk about the Balkans, but I don't use Wikipedia as a public forum on what I think about the issues discussed in the films, but rather to bring sourced information about the films themselves. So, my question is - why am I being notified of this? The films are out there, I'm not the one discussing whether I like what's said in the films or not, perhaps you could have a look at others editing Malagurski-related articles for biased reasons, because I'm worried your warning is at the wrong address. --UrbanVillager (talk) 18:40, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
 * That is a lie. There are many diffs showing that UrbanVillager's edits do actually discuss the Balkans in general, and recent wars in particular. For example: . Previous attempts to encourage UrbanVillager to comply with policy have failed; I merely comment here just in case any other passer-by (such as Slakr) actually believes what UrbanVillager says. bobrayner (talk) 19:08, 10 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry; I missed the ping the first time around. Check out Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia; it covers any topics related to the Balkans, broadly construed. The case, itself, was apparently due to Balkans-related ethnic conflicts leading to edit wars, which looks to be what also happened on the article in question. That said, you could file a request for clarification (Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment) if you feel there's confusion over those general sanctions. Cheers. -- slakr \ talk / 20:26, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank You!
Indeed! I downloaded and enjoyed the first Weight of Chains and now I'm waiting for a bootlegged version of the second. As far as your comment goes, I was under the impression that it's a biographical article... and that is why I added those films to the template, but haven't wikified them. Agreed, there should be a separate article for the sequel. Regards, RealButter (talk) 15:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I'll take a look and contribute soon. --RealButter (talk) 17:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

The Weight of Chains 2
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My talk page
UrbanVillager I have already asked you several times to take any content matters to the relevant talk pages. I have asked you several times to confine discussions to content matters. Today you have had the audacity to REVERT my talk page, to tell me what I should or should not delete from MY talk page and to have made a lot of meaningless remarks about my being English and not having any native FRY language (neither of which I have ever made any secret of). I am asking you once again and for the last time to observe these basic conventions. Pincrete (talk) 01:19, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Pincrete, when you wrote to me "I have a talk page you know!", I was under the impression that you wanted me to write on your talk page. However, I will not do so anymore. --UrbanVillager (talk) 01:54, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Pincrete, UrbanVillager didn't tell you what not to delete from your talk page. He in fact stated specifically that, "You have a right to delete this, of course". Jsharpminor (talk) 05:23, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Jsharpminor, you can see the reason why editors who bring actual useful content to Wikipedia (like me) leave, while those who are "technocrats", disputing everything, improving only grammar and other details anyone can do, refusing to "share" articles with others (like Pincrete) stay. --UrbanVillager (talk) 15:03, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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Boris Malagurski dispute


Why not post on the talk page and explain your rationale for removing the tags? My 3RR closure was not a mandate for removing them, it's just a pointer to policies. If someone adds the tags back I will probably apply full protection. What is currently on Talk:Boris Malagurski does not appear to be a full talk page discussion. It's just an exchange of complaints and unpleasantries. (For example, there is no RfC and nobody has tried WP:DRN). EdJohnston (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Boris Malagurski covered by discretionary sanctions
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