User talk:Urbandervesh

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April Flowers
There are a couple things that you're not addressing with your edits to the April Flowers article. Dismas |(talk) 19:23, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
 * 1) Per WP:BLP, we require a source for controversial information. The legal name of someone who has gone by a stage name in a profession that is not always thought of as socially acceptable is controversial.  Therefore, we must have a verifiable and reliable source for birth/legal names.
 * 2) As a consequence of #1, we have no link saying that the person on the fitness site is April Flowers and therefore cannot make inferences about who that woman is.
 * 3) Rumors have no place here unless that rumor is notable in and of itself. We can say who was rumored to be Jack the Ripper or Deep Throat (Watergate) because those rumors have been published many times in many sources.  You haven't supplied any sources (reliable and verifiable) about the rumors that you are talking about with reference to Flowers.  WP:BLP applies here too.


 * You have repeatedly removed edits to the April Flowers page even though the edit is clearly documented. I can present several examples of loosely documented articles on Wikipedia that have not been removed. So why target this?


 * What is more, it seems like you keep doing this to other people too. Why? What is your problem?


 * As background, April Flowers is well-known by her name Diane Merhi. This is actually referenced in the article itself--in the very first line! All I am trying to do is to link to her current business at the bottom of the article. I have linked to it and if you follow it, it shows her pictures. If you require her current website to say that she was formerly a pornstar known as April Flowers then you are just being plain old ridiculous. Wikipedia is a place where people come to find information not to deal with censors like you. Please do not remove the edit again. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Urbandervesh (talk • contribs)


 * I have removed them because, as I explained, they are NOT clearly documented. You keep supplying a link to a fitness website that does not make any claims that the person in the article is the same person who now is a personal trainer.  Per WP:BLP, I am within my rights to do that.  You have the burden of proof since you're the one trying to add the information.  So far, you have not proved that they are the same person.
 * I am not "targeting" this article. It happens to be on my watch list and I saw that you're adding unreferenced information to it.  That's it.  What goes on in other articles is not germane here.
 * If you think I am being out of line, with you or other editors, go ahead and report me. You can do so here.
 * You have not shown that Flowers is "well-known" by the name Diane Merhi. It is not referenced in the article at all.  Not in the first line or any line thereafter.  You keep claiming that the link you provide is for her current business but you haven't provided any proof that they are the same person.
 * Wikipedia is a place to find information, I'm not disputing that. It is also a place to find reliably sourced and verifiable information which you have not provided.
 * I look forward to hearing from an admin after you report my actions. Thank you, Dismas |(talk) 20:16, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 03:09, 31 May 2017 (UTC)