User talk:Uriber

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irrelevant links
Hi Uriber,

I just wanted to leave a thank-you for going through and getting rid of all those irrelevant links. They had been bothering me forever, but the task just seemed too daunting.

DanKeshet

Hi, you cast a vote in the TEMP5 debate. The Temp5 proposal was voted down by 61.3% to 38.6%. We seem to be going around in circles on the whole issue of the main page. A new vote is now taking place to clarify what exactly we want, namely
 * 1) Do we actually want to have a new page?
 * 2) If so when (immediately, after a pause, timed to the press release, etc)?
 * 3) What do people want on the front page and what do they want excluded?

As of now, the whole issue seems surrounded by complete confusion. This way, finally and definitively, we will know what we want and when we want it. So do please express your opinions. The vote is on the same page as the previous votes. FearÉIREANN 20:31, 13 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I noted that you put a _NOTOC_ flag on the 1982 yearpage. Can one enquire why you did that. If I aggree with your reasoning, I will follow suit with all the yearpages I happen to edit for one reason or another. But at the moment I don't see what exactly it accomplishes. Can you elucidate? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 14:20, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC)

Yup, Yup, Yup. On the other hand...
I do see what you mean. It does look odd. For a moment anyway. After staring at it for several minutes, I almost started to get used to it, but that isn't good enough. A user should find everything intuitively obvious... Yes. As an immediate response I think you did the right thing. On the other hand what I found unsustainable is the "See also" block itself. That isn't a convention followed anywhere else on wikipedia. Those are usually put at the very end of an article. In fact, I wonder why somebody felt necessary to put them up there so prominently in the first place.

Oh, well. It seems I'll have to do a search through the possibly relevant discussion and project and whatchamacallem pages to see if this is a decision arrived after a long and reasoned discussion. Long term, my personal opinion would be to move the "See also:" links to the end and out of a frame just like with every other page. But thats just me. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo-stick 17:59, Aug 22, 2003 (UTC)

I would like to formally invite you to join others at Wikipedia:Wikiproject_Arab-Israeli_conflict to work with us toward resolving issues that have arisen and resulted in edit wars here at Wikipedia. Also, I would like to formally request that you agree, along with the rest of us, to refrain from editting each of the articles that are listed as currently under protection or subject to edit wars on that page till the issues regarding that particular article have been resolved and we have removed that article from the currently under protection or subject to edit wars list. OneVoice 13:29, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hello Uriber. I'm working on an article about the Kfar Etzion massacre at User talk:Zero0000/temp. Your comments would be welcome. --Zero 03:41, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I changed "Zionist settlements" to "kibbutzim". I think that "settlement" is ok in general. That word is used by all of the sources I listed, and pre-1948 it was used by everyone. I see your point, though. I don't think "village" would be reasonable for something only recently established, and "community" has the wrong meaning. It would look odd to use "kibbutz" all the way through. Do you have another suggestion? --Zero 00:49, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

About List of massacres committed during the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, my intention is to have an article or at least a stub for each one of the items listed. This is why I did Etzion just now. The next one will be Tantura (which is controversial and I plan to use just "Tantura" as the article name without the word "massacre"), and after that a single article that does both of Haifa Oil Refinery massacre and Balad al-Shaykh massacre (the second one was a revenge attack for the first). Meanwhile I ordered Benny Morris's new book as it is supposed to contain a lot of new information from IDF files about these incidents. When it arrives I'll go through the whole list and add or subtract as needed. All of this takes a lot of time and mine is limited. In addition to what is present now, there were some major bombings with lots of casualties. They were done by both Jews and Arabs, and in one case by British deserters. I don't think they need articles of their own, but one day I might write a single article that lists them. --Zero 02:34, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

You need to go to the page and vote regarding the changes some are trying to make there.

Hi - you don't need to stick that sort of thing on votes for deletion - it is an instant deletion candidate. You should add to the page instead. Secretlondon 22:14, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)

I hope one day I will learn to debate as convincingly as you did on Jlem! What do you think should be done to the text on the Jlem's importance, currently removed (not even moved to talk)? Looks like when your opponents don't have anything to respond with, they claim it's POV and therefore must be removed. --Humus sapiens 22:40, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the numbers. I took them from a news update, which (I guess) had lumped together the victims and the perpetrators, exactly what I oppose. --Humus sapiens Talk 21:08, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I was reading your debate over Jerusalem with other wikipedians, and I was impressed by the clearness, non-ambigouty and strength of your arguments. Keep up the good work. -Marduk 00:31, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)Marduk

Hamas
The name of Hamas seems to derive from an Arabaic phrase meaning "Islamic Resistance Movement". Perhaps that's why Cantus persists in using the term "movement" to describe the organization. It interested me, because I am a member of a church (with a particular, officially-appointed leader) but which is also part of a more loosely-defined "movement".

If you know any recent American history, we might recall the "anti-war movement" of the 1960s. Various organizations and individuals considered themselves part of the overall movement, such as SDS.

What sometimes confuses us in the English-speaking West, is that several Middle-eastern organizations have names which literally mean that they ARE the movement, like "Islamic Jihad".

What do you make of all this? --Uncle Ed 21:49, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Jerus.

 * Warning me on my talk page would probably not have had any effect on my behaviour

Chuckle. Thanks for being honest. Martin 22:25, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hi uriber, now the quickpoll is over, I just wanted to explain that my vote didn't mean I had anything against you. I just feel that reverting won't solve anything and I get annoyed when people revert so many times. I know you had discussed it, and I can understand that you were fed up with having to reiterate the same points but the reverts don't look good regardless of that. No one will feel like listening to the other side of the argument when constant reverts are being made and it looked like you were not inclined to stop, so my support vote was just a way of saying I oppose the revert tactics, nothing else. Also, I purposefully didn't vote until fairly late as I didn't actually want to see you banned, so I only voted when it was clear the quickpoll was effectively over and the required 80% was never likely to be reached before the poll was closed.

Is there any way you can come to agreement with people without reverting? I wonder if something like the talk:Mother Teresa/FAQ might help. Eloquence and others had problems with newcomers who were not aware of the previous discussion (with 50,000 words on the talk page - who can blame them?). Perhaps a Jerusalem FAQ could be written, which would basically summarise the results of the previous discussions? Then you could direct people to that rather than having to explain the same issues time and time again. Anyway, just cool off a bit on the reverting and I'm sure you'll have more luck getting the article into a shape that everyone can accept. Good luck with it. :) Angela. 22:57, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

Vote
See Votes for deletion/Occupation of Palestine

Vote: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis
See Votes for deletion/Violence against Israelis. Thank you. IZAK 09:44, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Support
See Requests for comment/IZAK. Thank you. IZAK 03:21, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Sam Spade
Requests for adminship/Sam Spade

Vote "NO". Opposed to SamSpade's unfriendly views in the Jew article. IZAK 09:12, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Welcome back
It's nice to see you back! BTW, take a look: Votes for deletion/Operation Days of Penitence Fatalities, Requests for comment/Alberuni  &larr;Humus sapiens&larr;Talk 09:56, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

stubby unnecessary articles
It's not Wikipedia that is resorting to this, it is a couple of people, and one determined admin in particular. Your points were well taken, and you would be quite helpful in striving to curb this silliness. Jayjg 15:48, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Palestinian_terrorists
See these six categories up for "votes of deletion": Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion and Categories_for_deletion] and this one too: Categories_for_deletion

IZAK 10:10, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Opinion for IZAK
Please see Requests for arbitration/IZAK/Evidence. Thank you. IZAK 07:17, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
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Village Pump
Thanks, I placed a comment at the Village Pump. Gangulf 19:33, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

VfD/Old
The unhandled entries are those that cannot currently be deleted due to block-compress errors. These are listed on the top of the VfD/Old page and there is no need to have January 9th in its entirety sitting on that page for the several months it might take to fix that error. As to blanking the pages I am using the older and more efficient system where as I clear the pages I remove the entries from the page. At the end of this process the page is left blank. - SimonP 16:07, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)

VfD on Jewish ethnocentrism
There is currently a VfD on the Jewish ethnocentrism article. You'll find the discussion and vote at Votes for deletion/Jewish ethnocentrism. Jayjg (talk) 16:14, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

History of Lebanon article
You might be interested in the recent edits to the History of Lebanon article (see history), and the Talk: page. The current anonymous author seems to be relying almost exclusively on Chomsky. Jayjg (talk) 02:40, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion/Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism
You might be interested in Votes for deletion/Anti-globalization and Anti-Semitism. Jayjg (talk) 17:43, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Israeli West Bank barrier
Would you mind weighing in on a dispute I am having with User:Majestiq at Israeli West Bank barrier? Jayjg (talk) 01:11, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Email?
Hi Uriber: Do you have an Email address? Best wishes. IZAK 07:38, 20 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes, it's uriber(at)gmail.com. -- uriber 11:15, 20 May 2005 (UTC)


 * ThanksIZAK 05:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

IDF Chiefs of Staff articles
Hi Uriber: As you can see at: History of the Israel Defense Forces, there are no articles about six (out of 18) of the Israel Defense Forces' Chiefs of Staff: (1) Dan Shomron (1987-1991); (2) Moshe Levi (1983-1987); (3) Mordechai Gur (1974-1978); (4) David Elazar (1972-1974); (5) Tzvi Tzur (1961-1963); (6) Chaim Laskov (1958-1961). Are you able to provide some history and information about them? Thank you. IZAK 11:01, 22 May 2005 (UTC)


 * It's now done. IZAK 05:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Israel
Hi Uriber Please contact User:Humus sapiens who wishes to start a Wikiportal/Israel See his request below. Thanks IZAK 05:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Hi IZAK (and everyone else here :), Do you think it's time to create Wikiportal/Israel similar to Wikiportal/India, Wikiportal/New Zealand and other Category:Wikiportals? I'm writing this here because it was you who made those wonderful templates and we don't have a portal yet where we could communicate. What do you think? &larr;Humus sapiens&larr;Talk 05:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi Humus, it's only me here, but I will pass your message on to "everyone". Yes, your suggestion is excellent, it is certainly time for what you describe, but I have no experience with Wikipedia portals, and if you know how, go ahead and start an Israel portal and I am sure editors of Israel-related articles will support you and join in the effort/s. Behatzlachah. IZAK 05:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Uriber, consider youself invited to WP:WNBI. Spread the word.  &larr;Humus sapiens&larr;Talk 09:50, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Palestinian territories
I note you have recently commented on the Palestinian territories page. I was wondering if you might take a look at the edits recently inserted by an anonymous editor, and reverted to by User:Yuber, and perhaps comment on the Talk: page as to their value in your eyes. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 19:02, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Also, if you have a chance to take a look at Arab-Israeli conflict it would be most appreciated. Jayjg (talk) 18:57, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

I've petitioned for arbitration against Yuber


As a more or less neutral observer, I wish to hear your opinion in the arbitration, if you are interested.

Guy Montag 07:41, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Massacree VfD
I assume you'll want to vote in Votes for deletion/List of massacres committed during the Al-Aqsa Intifada. Cheers. -- BD2412 talk 14:08, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)

Another VfD
You might also be interested in this VfD: Votes for deletion/Religious persecution by Jews. Jayjg (talk) 15:51, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

אני מקווה שאתה יכול לראות ולהבין עברית
הצצתי לארכיון דף השיחות בערך ישראל בויקי האנגלית. ואני רק רוצה להגיד לך כול הכבוד על מה שאתה עושה.

שלך, אב.פ

כותב קטן בויקי העברית,

Postal censorship
Noticed your edit and comment on the Postal censorship page. What is bizarre about the listing? These are countries that have been proved to have exercised postal censorship during the quoted periods and gleaned from several well known (to specialists) sources as quoted in the reference section. While this is a specialised subject, I don't see any issue other than the whole article needs more work. Cheers ww2censor 15:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, "totally bizzare" might not have been the best choice of words. Sorry for that. What I meant was that providing this long list of countries and colonies, without any further details or specific references, is simply not useful at all, IMO. -- uriber 15:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * First I prefer to keep the discussion in one place so have added back you reply. The sources alone with information about each country would take hundreds of pages of text which is why the references are there for those who want to investigate more in depth. The book "History of the Postal and Telegraph Censorship Department 1938-1946 Volume I & II" is more than 1,000 pages alone. What would you suggest was written beside each country entry? Remember that even the postage stamp articles for most countries A-E, F-L and M-Z are still redlinks that have not yet been written, so a specialist topic like this is much less likely to get detailed attention. Thanks ww2censor 15:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If detailed attention is unlikely, I would prefer to see a general sentence saying something like "most (all) nations involved in the war enacted postal censorship, in their homelands and colonies". This essentially provides the same information, but in a much more concise and convenient way. If there are notable exceptions, they should be mentioned, of course. I believe that Wikipedia (and any encyclopedia, for that matter) should not be simply a place to dump data. -- uriber 15:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * You are correct about that, so I will give though to some concise comment about who was involved and who abstained. For instance some neutrals in WWII enacted postal censorship while other did not for different reasons. Thanks I will give it some thought and try to come up with something more encyclopaedic. Cheers ww2censor 18:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Having looked over the article carefully, perhaps some sort of narrative about the major periods of conflict (WWI & WWII) and those who were the main proponents of postal censorship with some "between the wars" overview of those who did likewise at other times. I need to get out the books and review some more and you will likely agree, that will be better than the list that is there now. ww2censor 19:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Welcome back, Uri. You've been away for a while! Jayjg (talk) 21:52, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the welcome, Jayjg, but it might be a bit premature. I'm not sure how long I'll stay around this time, or how much I'll be contributing. For now, I'll probably just be doing some cleaning up here and there, whenever I have time. -- uriber 21:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Gaza and the Palestinian territories
I'm not sure how I feel about this, but I saw you reverted it previously.  Tewfik Talk 20:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The current wording is slightly better than the one I deleted (because it talks about Gaza being in the "Palestinian territories", rather than the Gaza Strip being part of them). I still don't really like it (because I think the term "Palestinian territories" is ambiguous and somewhat POV), but I'm not going to go to war over it. -- uriber 08:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello
I think you might be interested in this discussion. Cheers, glad to meet. Amoruso 22:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Occupied territories

 * Your point is extremely well expressed:

"The West Bank and Gaza Strip are disputed territories whose status can only be determined    through negotiations. Occupied territories are territories captured in war from an established     and recognized sovereign. As the West Bank and Gaza Strip were not under the legitimate and     recognized sovereignty of any state prior to the Six Day War, they should not be considered     occupied territories."


 * I completely agree. However--the problem is to give scholarly references.
 * "jgordon" altered my editing on POV grounds. Lets get some sources for our position.
 * Ludvikus 04:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

this might interest you
Articles for deletion/List of Messianic Jews and Hebrew Christians --Yeshivish 06:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

2006 Bilderberg Meeting
Hello Uriber,

thanks for the information about the location of the Birzeit University. However, as mentioned in the intro section of the article, the nationalities mentioned in this list refer to information related to the person as they were given in the Bilderberg press release.

Unless you have any other objections, I will revert your change. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord Chao (talk • contribs).

Shalom!
I'm trying to expand and bring the Eilat page up to date. From the history/talk pages you have been there too, so please come and see what we can do to make it even better. Thank you, Shir-El too 13:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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Palestinian law
Hi there, I reverted your recent edit here, because that issue was hashed out 4 months ago. Please discuss it on the talk page if you think that consensus has changed. Bearian (talk) 04:46, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:State of Palestine
I started a new section on this page; when you added a comment to the preceding section, you removed my entire new section. That was a mistake, right? I have put it back. 6SJ7 (talk) 18:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

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