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music of Bengal
Regarding this article, I'm not sure about moving it to West Bengal. If the article is talking about the music of the entire region (i.e. both West Bengal and Bangladesh), then it should be in both Category:Indian music and Category:Bangladeshi music, since it is relevant to both. On the other hand, if the article is only talking about the music of West Bengal, then it should be moved to music of West Bengal (you could make this move, up at the top of the page there should be a "move" button -- as long as there is no article at the title you move it to, it's quite easy to do; don't copy-and-paste an article from one title to another, as this destroy the editing history and thus violates the GNU FDL license). Anyway, you know more about this than I do -- Is there any good reason to discuss the music of West Bengal separately from the music of Bangladesh and/or other regions? If there is little or no difference musically between the two parts, they should be covered in one article (and the templates and categories used need to be changed to reflect that). If it is reasonable to discuss the music of West Bengal separately from Bangladesh, then I agree the article should be moved. We need to arrange these articles so that they will be the most informative, neutral and precise resource on the web -- what will it take to do that? Tuf-Kat 23:52, Jan 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * Your suggestion seems sensible. Tuf-Kat 18:35, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

Feb 25, 2005
Hey Urnonav, check out the Bangla Wikipedia. I just added around 300 stubs. Cmon, match me! --- Zaheen

naming problem: Bangla Wikipedia
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 * I think it should be written as &#2441;&#2439;&#2453;&#2495;&#2474;&#2495;&#2465;&#2495;&#2479;&#2492;&#2494; 128.151.226.184 19:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Re: Bengali naming convention
Well, the first thing would be to establish the project and create the page, I suppose. I really don't know how these projects get started but I can try to look into it. I think the next thing to do would be to describe exactly what our objectives are (of course, we should already have some idea of this or we shouldn't establish the project). Like you mention, one could be to standardize how Bengali words will be tranliterated&mdash;perhaps some examples of articles this would affect. We could also discuss the Bangla/Bengali issue, although I am inclined to use "Bengali" when speaking in English. Perhaps a third could be to discuss Bengali articles in need of improvement, or those that should be written? I am not certain. As I have never really followed any of the WikiProjects before, I do not really know what they entail or what roles they normally fill. We should also try to find some more volunteers, perhaps on the Notice board for India-related topics, especially since I will be of limited help due to time constraints and lack of fluency with Bengali (I know a decent amount of Bengali, but English is my native language). &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; (talk) 07:33, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Re:Protection of article Bangladesh
It's been a few hrs and the anon seems to have a dynamic IP, so blocking won't accomplish much at this moment. Another place where you can report vandalism is Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I guess we'll wait a couple days and see if the anon will discuss... --Jiang 04:58, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Calcutta
Thanks for your note about my browser. I've just checked the Calcutta page using Safari and I could see the Bengali figures instead of the question marks. I was using Safari until recently, but it was the older version as I was running OS 10.2, and it kept changing accents on pages I edited here. I like Safari, so I installed the latest operating system so I could use the latest Safari, but I had a bit of trouble with it, including freezing when I try to close browser windows if I have more than one open. So I switched to Netscape. Now I may have to switch again. I did try Firefox briefly, so I'll take another look at it, and I'll try Opera too. Thanks for posting the information. As for my intriguing user name ;-) you'll see a note on my user page about its origin, if you scroll down to the section called Me. Best, SlimVirgin 08:30, Mar 7, 2005 (UTC)

Problems editing Talk:Calcutta
Hi, can you describe in more detail the problems with editing the voting and move-discussion sections? I'm able to do so (using IE on Windows XP). Which browser are you using?

I added some extra links for editing, that should help a bit. -- Curps 17:43, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

If you go to Talk:Calcutta and scroll down to the "Move discussion" section header, just above that you will see a link that says "edit Move discussion section". You should be able to click on that. -- Curps 01:17, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I don't understand why you can't see it. Which browser are you using? There should be no browser dependence issue at all, it's an ordinary link. When I mention Talk:Calcutta, I mean the page itself, not the editing page you get when you click on "edit this page" at the top of Talk:Calcutta. -- Curps 01:58, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The links are definitely there. It must be a caching issue or something with your browser. Try clicking on all three links below, one by one:


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Calcutta&action=purge
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Calcutta/Vote&action=purge
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Calcutta/Vote_discussion&action=purge

Or if you're using Internet Explorer on Windows, go to Talk:Calcutta and then press CTRL-F5. -- Curps 02:19, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Music of Bangladesh
"Isn't Jhing-ga the right spelling? It's the like the vegetable (starts with Jha) I thought. Or does it start with a 'Za'? -- Urnonav 18:56, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)"
 * Well, the group calls themselves "Zinga" (I got it from their own website...apparently the descendednts of the founders reincarnated the group in Chicago in 1998. So, I used the spelling from their own site. For the site, please check out the external links at Zinga Goshty.--Ragib 19:09, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Mumbai
Thanks for the maps, though I think the map link you gave me is in the Public domain. I don't have problems with copyrighted maps. I trace the outlines and fancy them myself. (Outlines cannout be copyrighted). Thanks also for settling my name in Bengali.

Sorry for the delay in replying, I was extremely busy. I am currently aiming to push Mumbai as a featured article candidate. I have put up a link for the Bangla wikipedia on Mumbai but I don't know if the spelling is right (I guessed). Please check if the spelling is correct and please could you add a line or two in the Bangla encyclopedia on the city? Thanks. Nichalp 19:51, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the article. A marathi version also exists though its written mostly in Hindi. I expect it will be cleaned up sometime soon. Nichalp 20:28, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

Bengali grammar
Based on your comments, I am planning on putting conjugation tables for each of the tenses. I just finished the one for present tense. Since you added Bengali versions of the other transliterations, I left blank rows for you to do the same for the verb conjugations. If you do not wish to do so or think it won't be worth it, let me know and I'll remove them. Also let me know if you need help understanding the MediaWiki table syntax (I agree, it takes a bit getting used to). The lines for you to edit look like "| || || || || ||"; just put the entries in the spaces between the pipe symbols. Thanks! &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 07:22, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Sure, no problem. You don't have to do it, I just wanted to make sure you had space to put them in since you had done it for other parts of the article. I'll see if I can get my browser to display Bengali properly. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 05:09, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Oh and I totally understand your comfort with HTML table&mdash;my personal web site is completely written in Notepad-produced, fully comliant (strict) XHTML. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 06:06, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Excellent! It is up to you regarding the pronouns. If you would like to write them in Bengali, I would be happy to put in the blank rows, but I won't if you think it would be excessive/too much work. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 19:33, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bangladesh-stub
I have created a new stub for Bangladesh related articles. Since stub proposals are evaluated by the number of articles with that stub msg, you can help keep the stub by adding the Bangladesh-stub tag in the new articles you create/created. Thanks. --Ragib 07:24, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * I am not sure I understand the scope of this stub. Should it for example be applied to the article on Surya Sen? What is more specific: south asian geographic region stub or Bangladesh stub? I would actually say that the Bangladesh stub, if only used for historical articles, would be fairly useless. If everything related to Bangladesh directly were to be classified under Bangladesh-stub, then it would make sense. Any ideas on this? -- Urnonav 00:38, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, this stub is just the beginning, or more accurately, super-category which would include many specialized stubs. For example, Surya Sen would be included in Bangladesh-bio-stub, a city or location would be included in Bangladeh-geo-stub. This sort of specialization has been done in case of India and many other countries. Also, there would be cultural stubs and other stubs. --Ragib 02:05, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * P.S., my idea is to mark the BD related articles as Bangladesh-stub for the time being. Later, when more specialized stubs have been created, we can re-sort them. --Ragib 03:37, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Bangla Transliteration Guideline
Is it possible to post a Bangla transliteration guideline somewhere? I was writing articles on the Bangla new year, and I got somewhat confused on how to write "Pohela Baishakh"? Right now, the article is in Pohela Baisakh, but the month Baishakh uses "sh". If a common guideline can be posted in WikiProject:Bangladesh, we can all name articles in a common way. I wish I had any sort of Bangla Academy Guidelines, but I don't. :) --Ragib 19:43, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

History of Bangladesh
I recently had some ugly quarrels with people for edits in Pakistan's history section, the end result came out good, that section is quite well written now. I think its time we started a meticulous edit on the History section of Bangladesh too. If you are free now, please join. Thanks. --Ragib 20:29, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Wiki Portal Bangladesh
I have created a wikiPortal page on Bangladesh. Please join me in working on it. For references to other wikiportals, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiportal. Thanks. --Ragib 17:54, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Voting for Biography collaboration of the week
Hi, the article Sheikh Hasina has been nominated for voting at "Biography collaboration of the week". What this will do is that for a week, people of the team would contribute to make the article enriched, balanced and complete. Since this is an article about a Bangladeshi politician and a rich article would promote Bangladesh more, I think regardless of political beliefs we can vote for it. Even if you are opposed to her political ideology, you can be sure that both her positive and negative sides would be presented in a Collaboration of the week article. Please vote at Biography Collaboration of the Week by signing your name with # ~. Thanks. --Ragib 04:17, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back
Check out and edit the Wikiportal/Bangladesh. --Ragib 06:54, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

BioCOTW Project
You voted for  Pope Shenouda III of Alexandria, this weeks' Biography Collaboration of the weeks. Please come and help them become a featured-standard article.(Sorry I know its a little early but I'm not sure if I will be on tommorow)--Falphin 01:32, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

origins
Interesting that you are originally from Chuadanga (I mean, your ancestors were).... my maternal grand father and mother hail from Alamdanga thana in Chuadanga. Though they left that place forever in the late 1950s, we still have relatives over there. --Ragib 6 July 2005 20:39 (UTC)

Re: Bangladeshi Districts project
Yes I agree, thats a good idea. After we get done with projects, we can work on Cities. My friend is actively participating in wikipedia, so we at least have 3 members to work on this. Regarding a fixed structure, I think that should include infobox, section on subdivision, history, economy?, and any interesting facts. --Ragib 9 July 2005 16:19 (UTC)


 * Where did you get the map for Chuadanga? Also, to make it unambiguous, you should move the page to Ragib 21:42, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

PS: On an unrelated note, you can vote for Grameen Bank to be included as This week's improvement drive. --Ragib 21:43, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

I mailed Asiatic Society of Bangladesh, which is listed as the copyright holder of Banglapedia. No replies yet. I have contacted Columnist Anisul Haque, people from Daily Prothom-Alo, Author Zafar Iqbal and Prof. Kaykobad in Bangladesh about starting a wikipedia movement in Bangladesh. I have got quite good response from them on that, so they can enlist some energetic people.

Regarding other articles, Bangladesh Army article is being fed the POV that "Indian Army" kindly donated this and that to BD Army. I tried to find a good history on BD army, but the army website is a disappointment. I mailed a former classmate of mine who is a Major now, I'll try to get some more info. --Ragib 09:47, 10 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I requested a bunch of books on Bangladesh's independence from my Univ's library. Hope to put more info into the Bangladesh Liberation War and mukti bahini. --Ragib 16:45, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I started a discussion on the common format for District articles in Talk:Districts of Bangladesh. Please participate in the discussion and add your ideas. Thanks. --Ragib 00:11, 17 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Ok, I finished creating articles on all 64 districts, added a navigation template to almost all, and have inserted the standard sections to most of them. Now is the time for some other volunteers to insert information into them, may be taking stats/info from Banglapedia and paraphrasing that. You can start by taking over any articles from the nav template at Template:Subdivisions of Bangladesh. --Ragib 06:49, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Bangladesh
Hi Urnonav. WikiProject_Bangladesh is supurb! Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Bangladesh and Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject contains an explanation of the problem with the project scope, which is fine now. I apologize for leaving an ambiguous edit summary. I was manually going down that list and fixing all the scopes manually. Please disregard the careless Edit Summary and read the explanations at those links. Thanks :) Quinobi 04:27, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Re: Away note
Hello, Urnonav; thanks for your message. I'm moved in now but life has become so much busier now that I am a doctor. You know: long hours, one-day weekends, spending the night in the hospital every few days, and so on. I still try to contribute to Wikipedia here and there but it is getting increasingly difficult to do so&mdash;I'll try to make sure I don't neglect any area though. As for the transliteration table, perhaps on Bengali script? &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 07:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Bengali script
Hi Urnonav,

My name is Sameer, and I am a linguist at UCLA, specializing in the phonetics and phonology of the Bengali language. I saw your post about having someone help you with the IPA and the Assamese transliterations. I just edited the Bengali script page you've been working on, just to keep it up-to-date with the most current linguistic information on Bangla. Hope you don't mind my editing!

Keep in touch, and please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments on my revisions!

Thanks, Sameer ud Dowla Khan UCLA Deparment of Linguistics

wikipedia login: SameerKhan

Transliteration
About the choice of "a" instead of "a" with the macron, I can see why one would not want to confuse them. I was working under a Bengali-only sort of framework, in that, I was not trying to show how Bengali sounds were not to be confused by Hindi sounds, but simply how Bengali works internally. Since Bengali has no length distinction (except across morphological boundaries), I felt it was unnecessary to add a macron on the "a" when there would be no "a" without a macron to distinguish it from. Plus, since Bengali "a" is just a little longer than a Hindi short "a" and definitely not as long as the Hindi long "a" with a macron (the distinction between Bengali "a" and Hindi short "a" is more based on tongue position than duration), I felt it was not necessary to associate the Bengali "a" with the Hindi long "a".

About the change from æ to ê in the transliteration, my main reason for doing this was that æ is no easier to type than ê, and ê represents the phonological status of the sound better than æ, which would be more of an IPA transciption of the sound.

Despite all this, I understand there are many other researchers that you are working with, and I understand that you have put a lot of effort into forming some sort of simple transliteration. If you'd like, I can go back and change the ê's back to æ and put the macrons back on the a.

For the macrons/umlauts on the "i" and "u", I have to comment here. To say that the transliteration should have macrons/umlauts on the dirgho i and dirgho u is misleading and cumbersome. Since there is no distinction in the actual length of hrôshsho i and dirgho i, hrôshsho u and dirgho u, I feel it is a good idea to show that lack of distinction in the transliteration.

The other changes were just slight issues like transcribing the pronunciation of kô+onushshôr as kông and not kng, the pronunciation of kô+khôndo to as kôt and not kt, etc.

I also just made some slight changes to the part about the number of vowels in the alphabet. I wanted to clarify that there are seven vowel sounds (and about a dozen diphthongs, although I did not say that) in Bangla although there are 11 vowel letters.

I haven't finished editing the IPA - I just need to brush up on how to input some of the symbols. Some of the phonetic peculiarities of Bangla are not shown in the table as of now, and the Hindi pronunciations are given instead. This is very common in a lot of phonetics papers on Bangla, although nowadays more studies are starting to challenge the definitions made previously. I could go on about this but it's late and I'm probably rambling so I'm going to go to bed and continue later!

I'm really excited about being able to work with all of you! Sameer --SameerKhan 09:44, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

More transliteration
Sounds good - I will go through and reenter the macrons on the "a". I'll pick my battles, I guess, hah.

With the short and long "i" and "u", I am pretty sure the historical distinction in pronunciation is just as common knowledge as the historical distinction in English "meet"-"meat" or "to"-"too"-"two", etc. Since it's restricted to spelling only, I really feel any macrons on "long" i and u would be really misleading.

And for the names of letters, I agree that the pronunciations I listed are the formal written pronunciations (eg "murdhonno nô") and not necessarily the way most people say them (eg "murdhen nô"). I feel this is similar to the way that the written pronunciation of the letter "w" in English is "double-yoo" but a very common pronunciation is "dubyah" (as I'm sure you have heard from our president!). I feel it would be most appropriate to keep the written pronunciation, but I would also agree if you felt we should show both pronunciations in situations like "donto nô ~ donten nô", where most people know the letter by the second pronunciation, even if they know it's spelt dôntyô nô.

I'd love to help out with the IPA for the juktakkhor. Looking forward to it!

I grew up speaking Bangla at home, but since I am a native Californian, I adopted English very quickly in school. Unfortunately, because my parents were not very insistent on a Bangla-only household, my proficiency in the language has plummeted. I can understand normal conversational Bangla with no difficulty, but my own speech often has the mark of a foreigner. I can read and write fine, although I am very very unfamiliar with formal Bengali writing style and educated vocabulary. I have some trouble understanding some crucial words on BBC Bangla online. Only now, as an adult, do I truly appreciate the Bengali language. I have started speaking in Bangla more regularly to my family once again, and to some Bangla-speaking friends. I have devoted my life to promoting the field of linguistic research on the Bengali language. Unfortunately, none of this has brought back a native command of the language. Sigh.

Well, keep me updated on the page! I'll be around!

Thanks, --SameerKhan 08:30, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

When to transliterate
Here are my suggestions about transliteration: Thanks. --Ragib 17:32, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * For place names, use IPA wherever possible. And these should be done in the beginning of place articles, for example, no need to transliterate Sylhet in the Bangaldesh article, but you can do so at the top of the Sylhet article
 * For people's names, there is no real need to tranliterate unless the person has a different name in Bangla ... e.g. like Tagore.
 * For organization names, if the name is in English, no need to transliterate
 * If a common transliteration is in widespread use, no need to change it. for example, "Zila". This however can have an IPA transliteration in (brackets) if necessary.
 * Transliteration should be used for poems/excerpts etc, but with a Bangla script version present alongside
 * Any sort of transliteration should be preceeded by the actual name in Bangla script

Assamese a
Hi Urnonav,

As far as I know, Assamese distinguishes "ô" and "a" like Bengali. In fact, they have the same oral vowels as Bengali (they in fact have one more, I believe), for the most part. Also, like Bengali, they do not have long vs short vowels. The vowels are all of about the same length. This lack of vowel length distinction is common to all languages in the northern branch of the eastern group of Indic languages (Assamese, Bengali, Bishnupriya, Chakma, Chittagonian, etc.). Southern branch languages (Oriya, pretty much) do have short vs long vowels. For Oriya, macrons would be necessary to distinguish hrôshsho i and dirgho i. For Assamese and Bengali, however, making the distinction is more of a historical artifact. Your own Bengali pronunciation should of course be trusted - you are a native speaker! As far as any linguist is concerned, that's all you need!

You can listen to the Assamese vowels at this site.

East Bengali and Assamese are extremely similar in morphology and phonology. If you are familiar with Bangladeshi dialects, you will surely find the Assamese page interesting.

If we end up maintaining a macron-less "a" on the Bengali script page, does that mean the macronned "a"s on other Bengali pages need to be revised? I'm assuming the Bengali script page has some sort of say over what is the accepted Wikipedia transliteration for Bengali. I'm up for revisions if need be!

Talk to you later, Sameer

Battle of Plassey
I put a move proposal to change the name to "Battle of Palashee" or "Battle of Palashi". Would you add your comments in the talk page? Thanks. --Ragib 20:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Re: transliteration
It looks great! One thing we should probably add at some point is how much of it is "standard" and how much is just a convention we've decided on. But great work! &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 20:33, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Re: Bengali language
Sorry about that. I went to revert his removal of the &#257;'s; he must have made the other edits in the short time between me viewing the diff and rolling back the change, and they got caught too. &mdash; Knowledge Seeker &#2470; 21:38, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Subdivisions template
Please take a look at Template:Subdivisions of Bangladesh. I think you might try formatting the template. I'm thinking off adding this navigational template to the district and division articles. --Ragib 08:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi, I have been nominated for Wikipedia Admin-ship ... I'd be delighted if you participated in the vote at Requests for adminship/Ragib. Thanks a lot. --Ragib 19:08, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

vacation
I see you are on vacation ... hope you'd return soon. I'm on RfA right now, until Aug 6. --Ragib 06:54, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back
Welcome back ... see Bangladesh Liberation War for some of what have been going on ... --Ragib 17:16, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

low-mid front vowel
if the vowel you're talking about is the vowel in একটা as opposed to the one in একটি, there is a way we've been distinguishing these sounds. while একটি would be transcribed with [e], একটা would be transcribed with [ê]. this fits in symmetrically with our distinction of [o] and [ô]. phonetically, the quality of this vowel is different in different dialects, so the choice of letter to represent it is just based on simplicity and symmetry in the system. hope this helps!

SameerKhan 20:40, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorisation
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Artcell
Hey, I saw you did a lot of work on bangladesh music. Can you please try clean-up the Artcell article. There is an interview on there that is in some real need of clean-up. I think it'll be better to put the necessary information from the interview in a more professinal manner. It's probably a better idea to add a link to the interview for those interested. Thanks.Abid Ahmed 05:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The necessary clean-up needed was removed a few months ago. There was a copyright violation because someone copy-pasted an interview from one of the websites. Ragib made some changes. By the way, if you are interested, you can probably find the changes that he made, if you look at the history (and the "rv copyright violation" section. Thanks for getting back to me.

-- Abid Ahmed 00:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Peer review Kolkata
Hi! A request has been made for peer review of Kolkata. Could you please help improving the article? Thanks a lot.--Dwaipayanc 11:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Bangla
I see you once proposed this project. We are trying to revive the idea. You may wish to contribute. Relevant discussions are taking place in the talk pages of some editors, like mine. Loom91 08:17, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Bonjour
Vous parlez en francais? Contribuez-vous dans le wikipedia francais? Je contribue quelquefois, mais je ne suis pas une utilisateure la. Oui je sais que je manque des accents. Je suis venue ici seulement pour dire bonjour. BengalRenaissanceEccentrica 01:27, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Jatiyo Sangshad Bhaban
Should we not add the infomation that the Jatiyo Sangshad Bhaban has been awarded some precious prizes for its outstanding architecture? --Auyon

Image Tagging Image:Artcell cover.jpg
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Banglapedia
I just joined the Bengal WikiProject. The site Banglapedia is a good resource for info on Bengal related articles. Just thought I'd point that out. Bakaman Bakatalk

Notability?
Do you really believe that every Artcell member needs a separate article? I think WP notability policy does not include local rockers from every place in the world. Would you consider removing the stubs you created for them? You know, WP is not a compendium for every information available under the sun. By the way, your article on the band is very nice already. Congratulations. - Aditya Kabir 14:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I have answered to your responses to both my talk page and Artcell talk page here. Take a look, please. I am always ready to be proven wrong. Please, don't go offeneded if anything seems not right. Yours - Aditya Kabir 11:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

On Artcell talk page you say - ''First of all, opinions are why we have discussion. If everything could be fact and no-fact, who'd need to edit?'' - and you defend the right to put personal opinions into WP entries. Then, on my talk page you say - ''Could you just go ahead and do the edits? If I disagree, I'll edit and we'll get somewhere.'' This is exactly what I'm trying to avoid. Since you seem to know more about the band, you should be able to pick the peacock and weasel words and the NPOV tone out of it, instead of starting an edit war.

BTW, speaking of personal opinions I have got around to listening to the music of the subject, and found none of those astounding stuff there. But, I know this is not about our taste in music, since, as I said, WP is not a FanZine.

Finally, about the unsourced claims involving specific numbers and your request - try not to REMOVE information. Please, check the following links: Two more note - I'm running an inclusionist discussion elsewhere along this exclusionist discussion here. And, I have no idea how you are failing to see the point. Anyways, thanks for you patience. - Aditya Kabir 15:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * WP:BLP
 * Jimmy Wales's views on unsourced material

P.S. Did you go through the other policies I referred to?

Looks fine now. A few bits of minor edits, and it'll rock. And, as long you don't subscribe to POVs, peacock and weasel words - I don't have complain to make. Surely you're able to see that much. As soon as I make those changes I'm moving on (with an eye open to the unsourced numbers quoted - 20,000 copies sold etc. - they may warrant a removal they remain perpetually there without cited for a proper source, may be a point to raise in broader forum someday). Thanks again. - Aditya Kabir 11:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject History of Bangladesh
WikiProject History of Bangladesh has started. It needs members and participants. Aditya Kabir 11:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

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Should I?
Should I be optimistic and assume you are back? :) --Ragib (talk) 18:08, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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Islam in Bengal
First of all, SUFIS ARE MUSLIMS. Its for God to decide whether their "true" muslims but come on, they conform strongly to the belief of Allah and the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Therefore they fall in line with the very definition of a Muslim.

And as for sufism in Bangladesh. Look here, Bengal is one of the only Muslim majority regions in the world where Islam was established not through invasions and great conquests by glorious turkish or persian warriors. NO! Islam came to Bengal through tolerant preachings, through SUFI SAINTS!! ([2]) During the Mughal Empire a great number of Persian and Turkish sufi saints came to Bengal and further expanded the influence of Islam. I mean what about Hazrat Shah Jalal, the most respected and inspiring Muslim saint in Bangladesh. For god sakes, HE WAS A SUFI!!! Our famous Bauls are unique sufis and hope you'd know that bauls played a significant role in preaching islam in bengal.--ChaudhryAzan (talk) 22:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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You are Invited to Bangla Wikipedia Photography Contest 2014!
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In order to celebrate it's 10 year Bengali Wikipedia has arranged a photography contest at Wikimedia Commons. It is scheduled to, start at 1 September 2014 00:00 (UTC) and end at 31 October 2014 00:00 (UTC). We welcome you participate there. Hoping to see you at the contest. Thanks.

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ArbCom elections are now open!
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