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Singh
Dear Utcursch,

I can you please explain why did you edit सिंह (Sinh)from the Singh article.....i fail to understand your reason for the same..

Harrybabbar (talk) 06:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Because the information is contested (the discussion is on the talk page), and there is no source for it. If you have a reliable references, please feel free to re-add your material with the reference. utcursch | talk 10:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Utcursh,

I do not think there is a dispute on this, this how it is written in Hindi (devangirhi script) सिंह (Sinh)...we have to put this in Singh article. Harrybabbar (talk) 05:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * As I mentioned on the article's talk page earlier, सिंह is not necessarily read as "Sinh". The anusvara is pronounced in a variety of ways. For e.g., the anusvara in गंगा (Ganga) doesn't denote the sound /n/ (IPA); it denotes the velar nasal sound (IPA /ŋ/). Similarly, "n" in doesn't necessarily mean the sound of "n" -- it may also denote the velar nasal sound (IPA /ŋ/) or the sound /m/ (the original Sanskrit sound). There are several such words in Indian languages, which are pronounced differently. For example, some people pronounce अहिंसा as "Ahinsa", while some others pronounced it as "Ahimsa". utcursch | talk 09:05, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Utcursch,

Hi can you also provide me with reference or source from were this paragraph in Singh article ben has been taken ''Earlier, a common practice among the Rajput men was to have Singh as their middle name, while Rajput women had the middle name of Kumari. However, many Rajput women have Singh in their name as well. Several times during history due to various reasons Rajputs have migrated out of Rajputana their native region; many of those that got settled in other parts of India have since come to use Singh as their last name even though they belong to separate Rajput gotras and clans, this happened over several generations due to the local population preferring to popularly calling them just Singh in the new places they settled outside Rajputana''

Harrybabbar (talk) 10:43, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * This paragraph has not been added by me. If you feel it's incorrect, please fell free to add citation needed to it, and then remove it, if nobody provides a citation in a few days. utcursch | talk 10:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Ingleburn High School
Thankyou for your message.

I must bring to your attention that several verifiable sources were cited for various statements made in my edits. I must also note that only one reference was cited for the content of the page before my edits. I was providing factual statements about the school whereas claims for example that there are many programs for all students are puffed up lies designed like some sort of marketing pamphlet. As a student of the school and resident, I am the source for a number of the other statements of fact. Not all facts can be cited by a website, published book, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by OzWoden (talk • contribs) 11:11, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Utcursch,

Thank you for your revert, you are a fair personHarrybabbar (talk) 14:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikitable and Mélange styles
On the Vale (mining company) article you changed the tables style to Wikitable. I just think the Mélange style looks better, could you allow me to change it back?

If not, when can the Mélange style be used? EconomistBR (talk) 04:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of any "Mélange" style; the table didn't have any style earlier -- the color values were hardcoded (which is not a good idea, since colors that look nice in one skin may look ugly in another skin). "wikitable" is the standard MediaWiki style, and it is rendered into different colors for different skins. Of course, you don't need my permission to change anything on Wikipedia :) utcursch | talk 12:06, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

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ANI
Utcursch: As the article creator of Dravidian civilization and as a much involved user/admin in the AFD of the original version of that article, your thoughts/inputs are needed here. Thank you - KNM Talk 18:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Castes
There is a debate on Talk:Caste system among Indian Christians and I would like to hear your input on the matter, since you helped create the page. Baka man  21:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

toonist
This log and this article- Can you sort it out? The guy is an Orkut phenomenon. 59.91.253.189 (talk) 08:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

query
Excuse me? But why have you put some blocked messages on my user talk? I have edited Wikipedia before but never had these messages? Thanks. 82.41.71.131 (talk) 11:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear utcursch
You are requested to do something about the article Banda Bahadur.As you must be already aware, you made a contribution to it, there is an edit-war going in that article, though substancially few users are involved(At the most three).The cause is ancestory of Banda Bahadur.There is no certainity about his ancestory, even-though the general held belief is that he was a rajput.But certain users are presenting him in a certain way, which would not be favourable with his life mission.As you must know Sikhism rejects caste system, and as such no earlier Sikh was using it.This phenomena has arisen, though at a large scale in sikhs, only recently.All Sikh history books on Banda Bahadur mention his ancestory, though different from each other, but his caste is never used with his name, whatever his caste is presented to be.He is written as Gurbaksh Singh only.His caste is used to trace his origin, and not to differentiate him.

This request is made because you are an administrator, and you assistance is required to resolve the issue.ThanksAjjay (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help! I have nothing againest Sukhdev Minhas, it was the reference to Banda as Sikh Rajput.He was a Sikh.His caste(Whatever the claims are) should be mentioned in his early life.It was the racist tone of referring him as Sikh Rajput which was not acceptable.Ajjay (talk) 13:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Edits/vandalism to South East Derbyshire College
I'm also watching that article, and have noticed the contributor keeps adding the same sentence over and over. Is this getting close to a block or 3RR? Oh, and the commented out note from him here is completely unnecessary. &mdash;αlεx•mullεr 12:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Since the user started the article, I'm assuming that s/he is a newbie who doesn't understand how Wikipedia works. So, let's assume good faith and drop a few warnings, before we go ahead and block the account. utcursch | talk 12:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that sounds fair, thanks &mdash;αlεx•mullεr 12:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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hello
maan kunwar was converted to islam else the kaji cannot solemnize the marriage according to islamic law. this is why she got the name maryam - uz - zamani and for this reason mosque was created in lahore for her name —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tirem (talk • contribs) 08:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Utkarsh,
 * There was no custom of not mentioning the names of the mothers of the mughal princes. Humayun, Akbar's mother's names are well known and well recorded. And so are the names of Shahjahan and Dara SHikoh etc. Only exception was Maankunwar and that was deliberate. I have deleted the mosque reference from bio and moved it to the lead as it is relevant that she did not remain a hindu after marriage. In fact she was entombed and not cremated. If she had remained a hindu and all talks of her remaining a hindu are true she would have burnt on a pyre

Tirem (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Bhindranwale
Hi, according to prominent BBC International journalist, Mark Tully, he did actually describe Bhindranwale as 'not being particularly intelligent' he was also viewed by the legal establishment at an international level as a religious fundamentalist and terrorist, similar to Osama Bin Laden, in fact Professor Jurgensmeyer makes the direct comparison in his thesis at California University.

According to Sandeep Singh Bajwa, the administrator of Sikh-History.com, who personally knew him, described him as 'anti-soical' and 'hyperactive' personality with bad temperament which would fit the personality profile of a terrorist mentality.

The BBC also described him as a leader of terrorists if you see the link below in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.130 (talk) 10:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Undelete request
Hi. You earlier today deleted User:Go for it!/Archives, but as far as I know it was the only link to the extensive talkpage archives of that user's account. Could you either undelete it, or simply copy the content that was there over to User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive menu please? Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 20:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Belay that request. The problem has been solved.  See User talk:Go for it!   Th e Tr ans hu man ist    00:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Dekisugi
Hi :) Can you have a second look at this block? At first glance, it doesn't look like a vandalism only account. I'd be enclined to think you didn't block the right person but I don't want to act on a rush! Thanks! -- lucasbfr  talk 11:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like you mixed him with User:Inishbofin! I unblocked, pending an other explanation. -- lucasbfr  talk 12:08, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
 * That's right. My mistake. utcursch | talk 14:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Singh
Dear Utcursch,

Harrybabbar is up to old antics again.

Please help.

Thank you in advance.

Gorkhali (talk) 04:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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WHY
Why do you keep on editing Singh article, that is the way it is written in Hindi language right or do you know some other way...any primary school teacher teaches that way. You are not being fair..... Harrybabbar (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

OK then why do not you tell me how is Singh written in Hindi language...since you are an expert and also an admin.. Harrybabbar (talk) 05:42, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Marathi Language (wriiten script)is very similar to Hindi language, and during Chatrapati Shivaji's rule they have been very particular about using correct Sanskrit prononunciation for all the words used...And in marathi language Singh is still written and pronounced as सिंह (Sinh) e.g Husband of current India President Mr. Devi Sinh Shekhwat(he is a Rajput)...and this proof that it the same in Hindi language सिंह (Sinh)....were is the use of anusvara here....most of the word which are common in Marathi and Hindi the pronouciation and written form is same....what are your comments on this.

Harrybabbar (talk) 06:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't get your point. What are you trying to prove by giving an example? I can provide you hundreds of examples of Rajputs who write their name as "सिंह", and pronounce it as "Singh". Anusvara is pronounced in different ways. Sinh/Sinha is one of them. So, if you find one person who writes his/her name as "Sinha" in English, doesn't mean that evey Rajput pronunces सिंह as "Sinh". utcursch | talk 07:33, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes you can suerly give me hundred examples of Rajputs writtinhing it as "सिंह" and pronouncing it as Singh.....but the point iam making here is that in Marathi language it is written as "सिंह" and pronounced as SINH which is the correct Sanskrit pronunciations an also in Hindi...... even for Rajputs its is the same but over centuries it had changed because of influence of punjabi language & Sikhs pronounciation as SINGH and not because of any Anusvara which you are saying here...anyways you are Admin and you are going to have your way.... Harrybabbar (talk) 10:45, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You have still not provided any source for your "correct" pronunciation claims. Being an admin doesn't give me any extra privileges when it comes to editing -- you can file a Request for Comment if you feel other users are wrong, and you're right. utcursch | talk 12:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

that wasnt an attack on Noah
It was a comment on the entirety of wiki editors, They're a lot of passive-aggressive douchebags. FACT —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ebtunc2006 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Could you see Image:Bradycrop.JPG? You had deleted it some time ago and left an OTRS ticket ID #2007073010012137. The image is also at Image:TBrady2.jpg. The source website claims that the photo was taken by Senator Ted Kennedy at an official government function. I'm not convinced either way whether or not it is copyrightable. This image has been moved to Commons:Image:Bradycrop.JPG so if there is something about it that needs to be deleted, the Commons one needs to be taken care of too. Can you take a look at the ticket and see if the image needs to be redeleted? Thanks. --B (talk) 02:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've deleted the image, and tagged it on Commons as well. utcursch | talk 04:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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thanks
thanks for your help! (-: Ajjay (talk) 15:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

 * Thanks for the barnstar. :) utcursch | talk 11:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Sikh
this is a request. If you could fix spaces, commas etc. in the article. Also, a query, are the pictures uploaded on wiki commons allowed on wiki? ThanksAjjay (talk) 15:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There exits a between gap in the "representation " paragraph in Sikh. please fix that too.ThanksAjjay (talk) 05:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

My request for bureaucratship
 Dear Utkarsh, thank you for taking part in my RfB. As you may know, it was not passed by bureaucrats. I would, however, like to thank you for taking the time to voice your support, despite concerns cited by the opposition. Although RfA/B isn't really about a person, but more about the community, I was deeply touched and honoured by the outpouring of support and interest in the discussion. I can only hope that you don't feel your opinion was not considered enough - bureaucrats have to give everyone's thoughts weight. I also hope that the results of this RfB lead to some change in the way we approach RfBs, and some thought about whether long-entrenched standards are a good thing in our growing and increasingly heterogenous community. I was a little miserable after the results came out, so I'm going to spread the love via dancing hippos. As you do. :) I remain eager to serve you as an administrator and as an editor. If at any point you see something problematic in my actions, please do not hesitate to call me out. ~ Riana ⁂ 13:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
For reverting the vandalism on my talk page. &mdash;Moondyne click! 04:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

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Dear Utcursch,

I am really sorry to trouble you again, but Harry is back at it with Singh article. I figure he waits for everyone to believe that he has calmed down and then comes back to his old ways.

Hope all is well on your side.

Cheers,

Gorkhali (talk) 19:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

You are you threatening to block me why.....why are you not warning gurkhaboy & others and others when they have added "pronounced as सिंघ ("Singh", IPA: Siŋɣə)" this in the article... Harrybabbar (talk) 05:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

No Iam sorry it not pronounced or written as Singh in any other language other then punjabi (you have all the eg in singh articles itself), anyways you are going to prove it by hook or crook by adding your anusarva bit.....but even if you block me the truth has to come out... Harrybabbar (talk) 08:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

And by the way my comments to Rajputana were answer to his comments to me, and obiviously you wont find anything wrong with rajputanas comment Harrybabbar (talk) 08:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)