User talk:Utcursch/archive/37

Move review for Rasgulla
An editor has asked for a Move review of Rasgulla. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review.

Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 18:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Talvar (film)
Hi, Mr Utcursch you have wrong information about the movie talvar star cast Avika Gor is not actor who played as the Shruti Tandon roll Alisha parvin is the actor who played as the Shruti Tandon roll in the this movie. I think you not watched the trailer yet. ...

Iamkarim 10:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Rasgulla
I removed your most recent post on the article talk-page since it was likely to just encourage more off-topic discussion on a page that is already a mess. I hope your understand. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 03:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)


 * No problem, thanks. utcursch | talk 03:03, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Kalpavriksha
It has been suggested that Kalpavriksha be merged with Wish Tree which is not desirable as Kalpavriksha is specific to Indian religious cosmology of Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. Wish tree also covers many other aspects like wells etc. Pl record your views on the talk page of the two articles.-- Nvvchar . 08:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Crown shyness
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to subscribe to the edit filter mailing list
Hi, as a user in the edit filter manager user group we wanted to let you know about the new wikipedia-en-editfilters mailing list. As part of our recent efforts to improve the use of edit filters on the English Wikipedia it has been established as a venue for internal discussion by edit filter managers regarding private filters (those only viewable by administrators and edit filter managers) and also as a means by which non-admins can ask questions about hidden filters that wouldn't be appropriate to discuss on-wiki. As an edit filter manager we encourage you to subscribe; the more users we have in the mailing list the more useful it will be to the community. If you subscribe we will send a short email to you through Wikipedia to confirm your subscription, but let us know if you'd prefer another method of verification. I'd also like to take the opportunity to invite you to contribute to the proposed guideline for edit filter use at WP:Edit filter/Draft and the associated talk page. Thank you! Sam Walton (talk) and  MusikAnimal  talk  18:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Ticket favor
Hi Utcursh, I hope you are well. You don't seem to be very active on OTRS-wiki, so I hope you don't mind me messaging you here. I was hoping would take a look at this ticket - we may need to do nothing, but I believe it's in Hindi (at least written in Devanagari), and there aren't many Hindi-speaking OTRS members I could find. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 14:23, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been away on a vacation. The ticket is not related to Wikipedia. It is generic activism addressed to a judge, and presumably CCed to a number of media outlets and organizations, including Wikipedia. I've closed it. utcursch | talk 15:21, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking a look. Best regards, Storkk (talk) 15:24, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi
Hello Utcursch, would you be interested in taking a crack at the Sheena Bora murder case article? Since you have prior experience dealing with pages of a similar nature (2008 Noida double murder case), your assistance would be much appreciated. The Masked Man of Mega Might (talk) 05:04, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I'd wait for the news to cool down a bit. There are too many speculations in media stories. By the way you've been doing some good work with the article. Much appreciated! utcursch | talk 05:10, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Samaveda
@Utcursch: I appreciate your note of encouragement. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

early life of shivaji
On one hand jadunath Sarkar is quoted as a saying bakhars are most unreliable on other hand 91 kalami bakhar and its English translation by takakhov is refered. Shivaji's own letters ,royal seal and avenging death of his father and many more things show his affection for his parents and even stepbrother. It is unfortunate that here is a deliberate attempt to create a bad picture of his childhood. May I request that schoalarship and intellectual debate shall prevail than mere conjectores .thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devbk (talk • contribs) 13:02, 2 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Feel free to make any additions with reliable source. Original research is not allowed on Wikipedia. utcursch | talk 14:00, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Kutchhi Language
The blogs are authentic and not spam. These external links have content which Kutchhi community uses widely. They will allow people interested in learning more about Kutchhi to get access to the right content. It is completely appropriate for Wikipedia as it is providing a reference where people can find additional information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:4100:8E07:9C5D:BE51:CEBA:C620 (talk) 21:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * See WP:LINKFARM: Wikipedia is not a repository of links. Only official sites, or directly related to the topic -- the ones that provide encyclopedic information -- are entertained in external links section. Two of your links are blogs, the other two are commercial portals with matrimonial advertisements and what not -- not encyclopedic at all. Feel free to discuss the issue on the talk page of the article: Talk:Kutchi language. utcursch &#124; talk 21:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for looking into this. I have a hard time with anything that can't be displayed on a nixie tube. Perhaps I should avoid non-English topics which I often get into through Huggle RCP. I had a number of conversations with presumably, the same person on User talk:2601:647:4100:8E07:6D19:2808:CE67:F39E and my talk page to little avail. If it is OK with you, I will bow out of this. Thanks again! Jim1138 (talk) 23:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


 * No problem, I've added the article to my watchlist. utcursch &#124; talk 23:20, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Kal Bhairav temple, Ujjain
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Sinhapura
I see you removed some rather strange OR and SYNTH from Sinhapura. It appears to be happening again. I rved it, but don't quite follow what's going on. Thought you might want to take a look, if you haven't been following already. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Request regarding license
I request you to provide a suitable license for my upload. File:Cast of Sixteen.jpg I need your help. kartiktiwary3 (talk) 06:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


 * I recommending licensing images under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 License. You can do that by adding following text to the image page:
 * However, you cannot do it only for images that you've taken yourself or that you own the copyright for (e.g. you have paid the photographer). If you simply copied this image from india-forums.com, it will be deleted as copyright violation. utcursch &#124; talk 12:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

1884
The book says 1884.

There is a copy of the birth certificate here just to back that up.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g5ohom9jkcm03np/AAAIb2ON7j8m5hoZbCKgYnJ_a/Lekhraj%20Birth%20Certificate.pdf?dl=0

Would you mind stop changing back to the erroneous date?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.64.210.51 (talk) 11:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


 * OK buddy, here's the thing. This has been discussed to death many times in the past: 2, 1 and many more. Feel free to discuss this on the talk page, if you want past consensus to change. As for the the supposed "birth certificate", see Primary sources. utcursch &#124; talk 15:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Utcursch. Good to see you around after so many years. I had a look at the activity on the Dada Lekraj article and the behaviour reminds me of an editor, of whom the most recent sock draw is under User:Januarythe18th, that has been indef blocked (many times over) for block evasion, battle ground behaviour, personal attacks and disruptive behaviour and with an affinity for the Brahma Kumaris subject area. The IP also geolocates to the one location used by this editor in the past. I could file an SPI report myself but due to my own COI, and the way this editor, if it is who I think it is, has targeted me in the past, it would be better if another editor makes their own assessment. However if you feel it would be better for me to file it then I can do that. Best wishes, Bksimonb (talk) 13:47, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The edits of that user are hidden due to privacy concerns, and I'm not aware of the IP bit. So, I don't have enough evidence to file an SPI report. utcursch &#124; talk 14:09, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Utcursch and, I got informed about this issue when Utcursch posted a new section at BK talkpage. I see that 1884 year has less sources and 1886 has more sources and reliability. Back in April, I also added that he was born in 1884. You may be thinking that I am that ip address but that is not correct. I am separate person and that is separate person. I didn't know about BK before this year. I searched about BK in around February when I saw some videos on YouTube about it. One video on their website has some serious scientific inaccuracies in it, so I thought wikipedia article tells about that but it did not. I added that BKs do not believe in Big bang and evolution. That's how I actually started to edit wikipedia. After some months, I read some archives of talk page and realized that article has some long history of fighting.


 * I am not that ip. Nobody said that it is me but maybe in your mind you have little doubt that I am that ip. I don't mind if you include me in the SPI, because I am not that ip. I don't even live where that ip geolocates. I added that he was born in 1884 in April because I read that on Brahmakumaris.info. I even discussed it with about it, Bbb23 said that it is not reliable source and I left it there. Thank you Supdiop ( T 🔹 C ) 19:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
 * , you know the truth, please tell them. I don't want any suspicions about me. Thanks Supdiop ( T 🔹 C ) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * maybe ping didn't go to Bbb23. Pinging again. Supdiop ( T 🔹 C ) 17:05, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not necessary for me to go back and revisit this, Supdiop. As far as I can tell, no one's even accusing you of anything. You're simply being defensive. If you want to provide diffs of any conversations we had, you're capable of doing that without my assistance.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not about that conversation, it's about me being that ip address. You know that I am not that ip adress. You know what I am talking about. Thanks Supdiop ( T 🔹 C ) 17:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I can confirm that I am not in any way accusing Supdiop. I have always found Supdiop to be civil and respectful of consensus. This alone separates Supdiop from the disruptive sock accounts. Bksimonb (talk) 17:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Utcursch, please revisit Talk:Brahma Kumaris. In you wrote "broad consensus from the past discussions was that all the reliable sources mention the year of birth as 1884", but that's a typo. Best, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, fixed it. utcursch &#124; talk 17:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Need an Administrator's help
I have some problem regarding copyright issue in my article Keith Sequeira 's Section #Personal Life.. Please. Check that and correct that problem. If any genuine problem is detected regarding copyright policy then allow me to correct that section. I will correct that section in that way that no copyright policy will be violated. I shall highly obliged to you. kartiktiwary3 (talk) 03:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see the discussion started by User:Marchjuly at Talk:Keith Sequeira. utcursch &#124; talk 17:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks.. Happy dusehara to you and your family. kartiktiwary3 (talk) 01:54, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Name
If the name Amaravati Village, Andhra Pradesh be moved to Amaravati (Village), Andhra Pradesh. It may be right, as Village isn't a part of the place's name. Else let's start a discussion so that people may have a correct wording. Still, you did good work.--Vin09 (talk) 15:10, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Sure, go ahead. I just wanted to move it away from Amaravathi, Andhra Pradesh, since a lot of people were confusing the two terms, and editing the village article to state that it will be the new capital. utcursch &#124; talk 15:12, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

1884
Just answer the question and then we can begin our discussion. --79.64.208.41 (talk) 20:53, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam
Some time ago you participated at Articles for deletion/Rajkumar Kanagasingam. As the article has recently been recreated, and nominated again for deletion, you are invited to participate in the new discussion at Articles for deletion/Rajkumar Kanagasingam (2nd nomination). —Psychonaut (talk) 10:49, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

SPI for block-evading IP
Hi Utcursch,

I've been travelling and setting back home the last few days. I notice the IP editor, 72.209.xxx.xxx has been making some noise. Last time you mentioned that you didn't have enough evidence for an SPI. Since then the IP has displayed some classic behavioural traits such as referring the the Brahma Kumaris in the singular, (Brahma Kumari), repeated references to "Brahma Kumari Adherents/Followers" in a negative tone, trolling in the form of a refusal to get a point, solo-consensus and the insistence on the use of a primary source to prove a controversial point. He has also made an edit to End time almost identical to edits made by previous incarnations in terms of the use of the Benjamin Beit-Hallahmi reference, see 72.209.54.71, The Wiki Undead, Every 5000 Years.

Hope this helps in case you have had enough of the run-around already. If you would like me to fill the report I can do that but given this individual's talent of casting suspicion on any editor he can cast as a "Brahma Kumari adherent" it would probably be better if an editor who couldn't be tagged in such a way did the honours.

Best wishes, Bksimonb (talk) 14:44, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, just did: Sockpuppet investigations/Lucyintheskywithdada. utcursch &#124; talk 18:53, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you going to update the SPI with the new IP or should I? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 00:33, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The person keeps changing their IP every few days, as can be seen on the talk page history. I'd just block the address, if s/he gets too pesky. Till now, I had been participating in the discussion, thinking that it's a new contributor genuinely interested in fixing what they see as an error. Also, the Prophecy... book wasn't released the last time this was discussed, so I thought it'd be better to have others' opinion on it. But now that I realize it's long-term abuser Lucyintheskywithdada‎, I'd just go ahead and block the IPs.
 * BTW, that was a thoroughly well-researched comment. Will be useful for future discussions too. Thanks. utcursch &#124; talk 00:41, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You are welcome, I'm always happy to help. Just out of curiosity, does WP:EVADE supersede WP:INVOLVED in this case? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 10:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe I should leave the blocking to someone else. utcursch &#124; talk 13:58, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * already has Brahma Kumaris on his watchlist, maybe he would add Dada Lekhraj upon request? Bbb23, does WP:EVADE supersede WP:INVOLVED? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 16:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Rather than me trying to figure out you folk are talking about here, are you alleging that Dada Lekhraj is evading a blocked IP or that Dada Lekhraj is a sock of Lucyintheskywithdada?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:37, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Bullet points:
 * Dada Lekhraj (1876-1969) was the founder of Brahma Kumaris.
 * was blocked by yesterday, cf. Sockpuppet investigations/Lucyintheskywithdada. Apparently user is jumping IP, latest would appear to be.
 * If an admin (Utcursch in this case) is involved in editing, may he block per EVADE or should it be left to somebody else? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, stupid me, I thought that Dada Lekhraj was a user. Thank you for not rubbing that in. Utcursch should make up his own mind whether he feels comfortable blocking; sounds like he already has. Why don't you ask Mike V given that he was the one who blocked the last IP?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:43, 26 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Utcursch, I asked you a simple question, could you give me a simple answer? Did you falsify the evidence you presented on the Dada Lekhraj page, or were you given it by the Brahma Kumari adherents? I am concerned by an admin becoming involved in a discussion in such a way.


 * Yes, User:Bksimonb, we have good reason to be suspicious of the actions of Brahma Kumari adherents given their history and modus operandi.


 * Thank you. --88.144.240.189 (talk) 23:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Baseless accusations will receive all the attention they are due. clpo13(talk) 23:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Looking at the amount of air-time the IP is giving himself on the talk pages (just seen this) I suggest applying WP:RBI to the talk pages as well as the article. From my "history" with this individual I have found this to be the only effective "modus operandi" unless you want to see the talk pages to quickly turn into a lengthy extension of his website and forum. He has also used edit summaries to get his point across in the past which sometimes need deleting if they are attacking in nature or reveal real names. I used to get an uninvolved admin to clean up the mess after every sock to reduce his potential for making me the subject of some censorship-based conspiracy theory, though for a non-COI editor that shouldn't be an issue. Bksimonb (talk) 05:29, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Let's just stick to the facts and take this step by step.

Who falsified the fake evidence your presented Utcursch?

To state that it was deliberately falsified to distract and confuse discussion is not "conspiracy theory".

Did you do so, Utcursch, or were you supplied it by the BK adherents?

Either way surely must be concerning.

Lekhraj Kirpalani' date of birth is 1884. We know this now, the BK adherents have been forced to admit it, and we have reliable sources for it. --79.64.211.166 (talk) 15:06, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Don't you even have the common decency and respect to respond? Or is it that you cannot be seen to be honest?


 * Who supplied the falsified evidence you used to derail the conversation? Was it the Brahma Kumari adherents or did you make it up yourself?


 * What is motivating you in these matters?


 * Thank you in advance for clearing this matter up. --79.64.210.79 (talk) 18:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Seriously, stop wasting others time. You've already been given the answer to that question here: "I'm just trying to show you why primary sources are not acceptable on Wikipedia". The "falsified evidence" you're blabbering about was an obvious joke to show why the supposed "birth certificate" presented by you is worthless if it's not validate by a reliable source -- nobody actually said that it should be used as an "evidence". Your certificate is issued to someone at an address that doesn't even exist. Anyone can make it up. utcursch &#124; talk 22:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You've already been given the answer to that question here ("I'm just trying to show you why primary sources are not acceptable on Wikipedia"). You'd have noticed it, if you actually bothered reading others' comments instead of repeating your own, same arguments, again and again. The "falsified evidence" you keep blabbering about was an obvious joke to show why the supposed "birth certificate" presented by you is worthless unless validated by a reliable source -- nobody has offered it as "evidence" for the birth year being 1884.
 * As mentioned in the same edit, your certificate is issued to someone at an address that doesn't even exist. And that name ("Wanda Babansky") returns exactly zero results on search engines, apart from this discussion.
 * Unless validated by a reliable source, it's as good as a certificate that states Kenya as Lekhraj's birth place.

. utcursch &#124; talk 22:56, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Need Administrator 's help
< As the User:Marchjuly told me, i created the temp section for Keith Sequeira's Section Personal life in my own words. I request you because you are administrator, OTRS volunteer, For the rewrite of Keith Sequeiras personal life section and removal of the copyright violation tag as soon as possible. As he told me that only an administrator, OTRS volunteer can. do it. So please do this. > -- kartiktiwary3 (talk) 16:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks for your help. kartiktiwary3 (talk) 02:36, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Bhopal
Mr. Utcrush...metro population at the global level includes the population living in district boundaries...check united states.U.K etc. Also the Muncipal corporation area of Bhopal has been increased last year which almost cover more than 90% poluation of the district. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Correctinform (talk • contribs) 16:20, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


 * First of all, a "district" in India is a completely different from a district in the United States. In India, a district is a sub-division of a state. In the United States, the sub-division of a state is usually called a county, and even that concept is not completly analogous to the concept of a district in India. In the US, other than District of Columbia, the term "district" may refer to a congressional district, a school district, a judicial district or a part of a city (e.g. Arts District and Fashion District in LA) -- none of these terms describe anything close to what is called a district in India. Even if they did, their population is still different from the city/metro population.
 * Secondly, the population of a city and a county are same only for a consolidated city-county (e.g. San Francisco). India doesn't have any similar concept.
 * Some cities (e.g. Chicago), span over multiple counties, similar to how Mumbai spans over Mumbai City district and Mumbai Suburban district.
 * Other cities are either independent, or one of the several places located in a county. E.g. Los Angeles is located in Los Angeles County, and population of Los Angeles metropolitan area is different from both of these.
 * Coming to Bhopal, these are the populations according to 2011 census:
 * Bhopal city: 1,798,218
 * Bhopal UA / metropolitan region: 1,883,381
 * Huzur tehsil (urban): 1,886,100
 * Huzur tehsil (total): 2,107,523
 * Bhopal district: 2,371,061
 * The reference that you're adding to the article clearly mentions that 2,371,061 is the population of the Bhopal district. The article Bhopal is about the city, not the district. There is a separate article on the district: Bhopal district. There is no article on the Bhopal metropolitan region (like Pune Metropolitan Area or Kolkata metropolitan area), although the article Bhopal has an infobox parameter which shows metro population in addition to the city population.
 * Even if your claim is correct ("Muncipal corporation area covers almost 90% of the district's population"), your additions are incorrect: you're stating that 100% of the district population resides in the Bhopal city limits.
 * utcursch &#124; talk 18:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

ok mr Utcursh as you are saying seems to be correct but its my duty to update the aricle with latest statistics..since in 2014 the Bhopal muncipal corporation boundaries have been expanded..and total number of residents which comes under Bhopal Municipal corporation is more than 20 lacs according to state govt records but since i do not have the softcopy of refrence source so i am finding difficulty in citing source on web. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Correctinform (talk • contribs) 16:26, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Feel free to update the article, when you find an acceptable source. See WP:BURDEN. utcursch &#124; talk 16:29, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

@ Utcursch use this source while updating about district population accorrding to 2011 cencus http://www.census2011.co.in/census/district/311-bhopal.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Correctinform (talk • contribs) 16:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)


 * The district population need not be mentioned in the article Bhopal. There is a separate article on Bhopal district. On a side note, census2011.co.in is just an ad-ridden site made using census data dump. It's better to use the official census data. utcursch &#124; talk 16:45, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes district population is totally different from city. Can check municipal corporation website for the city info.--Vin09 (talk) 04:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Elizabeth Holmes
I came across that article after reading the NYT article. I was shocked to find an admin engaged in such a protracted edit war. May I politely suggest you find a way out that doesn't leave you WP:INVOLVED? The Dissident Aggressor 05:19, 30 October 2015 (UTC)


 * See Administrators. Clear violations of WP:BLP are not covered by 3RR.
 * A blog post by "Tyler Durden" (that's a fictional character) that reads "she lied again, something which appears to have been a recurring pattern for this 31-year-old " is not an acceptable source under any circumstances.
 * And I do not have any sort of conflict of interest here. utcursch &#124; talk 12:49, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Explanation
Kindly check this edit, I've undid your ref as it is just a newspaper explanation without any detailed info. Try checking this ref, G.O. of AP government with mandals and villages particulars in it.--Vin09 (talk) 12:21, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * A file hosted on a Wordpress blog (andhranation.files.wordpress.com) is not a reliable source. Anyone could create a PDF file like that and claim that it was a government order. utcursch &#124; talk 12:24, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, but the G.O. is genuine, I'll see that if it is available in any other site.--Vin09 (talk) 12:26, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * A copy is present here (07-01-2015. G.O.MS.No.3), so how to cite it?--Vin09 (talk) 12:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I've added it to the article . utcursch &#124; talk 12:30, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry not that one. It should be new mandals added in crda G.O.--Vin09 (talk) 12:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you can just go through the page, and right click -> copy link to get the correct one. utcursch &#124; talk 12:37, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

You mean this link? What about this? and this? Why I'm stressing is that G.O. has lot of info on villages and mandals also, the present ref which you added has nothing but some different G.O. Kindly check it.--Vin09 (talk) 13:05, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Finally I added like this check .Andhra_Pradesh_Capital_Region section Ref-5.--Vin09 (talk) 13:08, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi
 Hello Utcursch, | has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Zppix (talk) 15:00, 4 November 2015 (UTC) Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Amaravati (state capital)
Please keep this page on your watchlist and check this page. I tried to your edit but it again gave wrong addition of official name which was added by some IP. Just want to mention it to you.--Vin09 (talk) 04:02, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Will add to my watchlist. utcursch &#124; talk 04:09, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the restore was done by me and it looks like I've made those mistakes. User talk:220.226.101.213 was the IP causing problems. Check This edit at Tummapalapalem village.--Vin09 (talk) 04:15, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Moving of Maulana Abul Kalam Azad to Abul Kalam Azad
Recently the page was moved. If WP:COMMONNAME is of huge importance in Wikipedia then Googling "Abul Kalam Azad" gives the result only for "Maulana Abul Kalam Azad". It must also be noted that there are others with same name as Abul Kalam Azad as Abul Kalam Azad (politician), Abul Kalam Azad (photographer). Due to which google search for "Abul Kalam Azad"shows more hits than "Maulana Abul Kalam Azad". But he is always addressed as "Maulana Abul Kalam Azad".

So, which name you think should be right? -- The   Aven gers  11:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I have always heard Maulana Azad or Maulana Abul Kalam Azad in Indian text books, newspapers and magazines, but I need to check the scholarly / academic sources. Maybe initiate a requested move on the talk page? utcursch &#124; talk 13:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Due to my lack of experience, i don't know how to make proper arguments for move requests. Recently i started a requested move in Bangalore with extremely negative results. Please don't comment on that Bangalore move request, or i will be accused of canvassing. It would be better if you do it for Maulana Abul Kalam Azad. Every educational institution opened after his name also start with Maulana. Thanks. The   Aven gers  13:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, I'll first check what is the name mentioned in academic / scholarly sources. utcursch &#124; talk 13:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:RCaparoso
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Page on Bajirao I
I agree that there might have been some kind vandalism due to a movie being released on this topic, but strongly suggest to reinstate two things - one is titles of nobility and the other is the commemorations. Please check the below references.


 * Ballal - it is a title the Peshwa carried. I don't see anything sensitive here. Why was it removed from infobox? https://books.google.co.in/books?id=RdcnAgh_StUC&pg=PA97&dq=bajirao+ballal+peshwa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGpOP5sffJAhWSj44KHVXCCXUQ6AEILDAD#v=onepage&q=bajirao%20ballal%20peshwa&f=false


 * Shreemant Peshwa - the Peshwas were addressed as Shreemant. So what's the problem? Why was it removed from infobox? https://books.google.co.in/books?id=uPq640stHJ0C&pg=PA46&dq=shrimant+peshwa&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK39a4svfJAhXOv44KHatZBD8Q6AEINDAF#v=onepage&q=shrimant%20peshwa&f=false


 * Painting - a painting of Peshwa is present at Parvati Hills. Not sure why that picture was removed. What's the big deal in it?


 * Commemorations - There are two statues of Bajirao I in Maharashtra. It had a citation from Times of India. Again, this is something which is not sensitive. Not sure why was it removed

All in all, I feel the entire article has been revamped and somehow the new article looks like a product of vandalism

Amit20081980 16:17, 25 Dec 2015 (UTC)


 * Feel free to add these with sources. You don't have to take my permission. utcursch &#124; talk 18:24, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year
I heard what happened to your fireworks last night. I wish you better luck this New Year. Caballero// Historiador  ☊  15:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry ...
Just reverted your block notice at, not recognizing that was you since you were logged out at the time. (Intentionally? Seems a bit odd ...) I've put it back. General Ization  Talk   05:34, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * My revert of your edit at Joe Theismann was actually correct. He was an Academic All-American (vs. Academic All-America).  General Ization   Talk   05:37, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This is not me! Looks like is having some fun. :-) utcursch &#124; talk 14:17, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Aha! OK, it confused me, as the IP was placing a notice on *.198's Talk page about the block that you had just made (and you had not placed a notice). Still confuses me ... General Ization   Talk   16:47, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

No linkage of kashyap rishi to suryavanshi.
Lord parshuram killed kshatriyas to 21 times and gave land to kashyap rishi, hence it is impossible there is linkage between kashyap to suryavanshi  ,

Only Brahmins have gotras and other castes are Shishya of the recognised Brahmins hence hence they start taking as gotras

Reference ( Ramayan ) Pandit4580 (talk) 03:22, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Feel free to remove any content that is unsourced. That said, "Kashyapa", "Suryavanshi" etc. are part of mythology and legends, and there are many variations of these stories. According to one such mythological narrative, Vivasvan (the father of the current Manu and a member of solar dynasty) was born to Aditi and Kashyapa. Here are some sources: 1 or 2.
 * By the way, "Reference (Ramayan)" is not an acceptable citation. Please go through Identifying reliable sources to see how to cite sources. Wikipedia does not accept original research. In addition, your edits featured poor formatting. You might want to go through Training. utcursch &#124; talk 03:40, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia can't distorted our mythology and believes with the help of its certain rules and regulations

I request ,better close Wikipedia or don't deviate our mythology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandit4580 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Please go through Wikipedia training before making any more edits. utcursch &#124; talk 05:18, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Big Thanks!
Greetings. Many thanks for removing that spam link from Dara Shikoh! Regards Tapered (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Mor clan
Thanks for the edits on the Mor clan article. I know it is dodgy stuff but I simply wasn't in the mood for yet another spat with members of a caste - I've got enough of those going on at the moment without adding another. - Sitush (talk) 15:28, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm cleaning up all the articles that contain the likes of Thakur Deshraj, Bhim Singh Dahiya etal. as references. utcursch &#124; talk 15:30, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeah, those guys have been discussed at WT:INB in the past. They're useless, imo. - Sitush (talk) 15:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not following you around but you're cleaning up a lot of articles that are on my watchlist. One is Lohar, where you did some removals per ELNO.


 * What are your thoughts about having caste associations/samaj in those sections? I ask because I'm never sure whether such things really have any special status or if they're just some small-scale pressure group etc set up by a few like-minded people who then claim to represent the entire community. Sometimes I've seen three or four such links to different organisations, all claiming to be the one that matters.


 * The thing is, if they have no real status, other than perhaps some tax loophole, then they may well often just be linkspam. Or am I wrong? It's not the same as, say, an article about the Red Cross, where there is definitely one central body which represents the organisation. - Sitush (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * They have no official status as representatives of a particular caste/community. In most cases, it's a bunch of small-time politicians forming a group for demanding reservations, or a bunch of people coming together for networking. If the websites of such groups provide encyclopedic information, I usually leave them in the article. But in this case (Lohar), it's just misinformation - pseudo-history, ethnic glorification attempts that mix mythology with history etc. utcursch &#124; talk 18:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks for the info. - Sitush (talk) 18:58, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Elliott AfD
Thanks for closing the AfD. Just letting you know I added your signature (copied from your talk page). Cheers. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:29, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Missed that. utcursch &#124; talk 16:31, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * By the way, if you want to make it so that your "talk" link isn't bolded out on this page, you can change your settings so that the link is to User talk:Utcursch. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:35, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

hi Utcursch, I am new to Wikipedia and need some help please:
I am a journalist from Ukraine working in NYC for Bloomberg News focusing on financial journalism. I love synchronized ice figure skating and noticed that Wikipedia doesn't have much coverage of the sport. So I wrote a story on Geri Lynch Tomich, one of the most recognized experts in the field, whose teams won US national and international championships. The New York Times and CNN turn to her for comments when covering the sport. Within 2 min after posting the story, it was marked to be deleted by someone called Allthefoxes. That person didn't even both to read the story or to google Mrs Tomich name. It's a women sport and his inadequate negativity towards the page looked like a plain discrimination against women to me. Please help me edit the story, please let it live and reflect the reality - Mrs Tomich is one of the biggest names in the sport, all supporting links are there, in the article already. I am happy to discuss on the phone if needed. Thank you and kind regards.

Please spare time for Purbiya, Ujjainiya and Bihari Rajputs
All the mentioned 3 articles cover the same subject people. There is a long pending merger request by the creator of article Bihari Rajputs and also by me here. Please have a look and help merging. Thanks.--SMahenS (Talk) 15:33, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Oops!! there is still one more Gandhawaria from Ujjainiya origin.--SMahenS (Talk) 15:37, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, will have a look. utcursch &#124; talk 19:23, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Adhai Din Ka Jhonpra
Hello! Your submission of Adhai Din Ka Jhonpra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Mhhossein (talk) 17:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Mahto
You have wrong information about mahto sir name. None of the catse belong to mahto sir name. Please delete else will raise a compain against you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sibbs11 (talk • contribs)


 * Find a reliable source for your claim. And if you're User:Dineshmahto111, please see Sock puppetry. utcursch &#124; talk 11:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

whats your phone number ..could u tell me... Why are you playing game with this community.

I will complain against you if u will try to undo the false information about the cast-ism. Mind it. Why do yu delete the contents updated by me ..which is genuine and authentic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.119.234.69 (talk) 19:42, 18 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The content you're removing is well-sourced. The content that you're adding is repetitive ("caste-agnostic title..."), unsourced ("suryavanshi...") and/or POV ("remarkable identity..."). Not to mention poor grammar and spelling ("tittle", "decendents" etc.).
 * Also, see WP:THREAT. utcursch &#124; talk 21:24, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

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Puri
Puri GAN is under review. Can you tell me from a reliable news paper reference as to how many millions attended the Nabakalebara 2015. Also, can you or any one else throw light on the identity of W.J. Wilkinson who has been quoted in this book. Thanks.-- Nvvchar . 01:03, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The only post-event source I can find is this one: "More than 30 Lakhs or 3 million pilgrims attended this festival." Other sources contain pre-event estimate by the state's law minister: 50 lakhs or 5 million, over a 15-day period.
 * The person quoted in that book is William Joseph Wilkins (not Wilkinson). You can find his book Hindu Mythology, Vedic and Puranic online. Here's the relevant portion: "...what is more probable, as Puri was a head centre of Buddhism, when that system was placed under a ban and its followers persecuted, the temple was utilized for Hinduism, and Jagannāth, nominally a Hindu deity, was really Buddhistic; the strange, unfinished image being nothing else than a disguised form of the symbols of the central doctrine of the Buddhist faith.
 * This "Buddhist origin of Jagannath" explanation was quite popular among British-era scholars, and has been criticized by later scholars. For example, O. M. Starza (1993): "...they endeavoured in their ignorance to explain the enlightened features of this cult by suggesting that it originated in the noble religion of the Buddha. It was thought, for instance, that the temple of Puri occupied almost certainly the site of an earlier Budhist shrine, without any real evidence to support this view..." There are many other theories about the origin of Jagannath, covered under Jagannath. utcursch &#124; talk 03:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Really very fast response. Thank you very much. I will these references now.-- Nvvchar . 05:29, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Wow, Utcursch, you really hit Vikramaditya hard. Thanks. I haven't had a chance to review it in detail, but it looks great. I don't know if you take requests, but... I've been working v e r y slowly on the constellation of Brihatkatha articles, as represented in my not-ready-for-prime-time template at User:Phil wink/brihat. But I'm lazy, and obviously you're not. In case you decide to take the bait, I'll just mention that 2 really foundational books: ...appear to be rather hard-to-get, but I happen to have copies of them. Of course if you read French then you can get the original Lacôte online. But mainly, I just wanted you to know that your work at Vikramaditya has been noticed. Cheers. Phil wink (talk) 07:00, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * (reprint, from the Quarterly Journal of the Mythic Society, of Tabard's translation of Lacôte 1908: )
 * (PhD Dissertation)


 * Thanks, I've been working on the Vikramaditya draft for over a month, and your work on Brihatkatha and Gunadhya was very helpful. I'll take a look at your draft. utcursch &#124; talk 12:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Adhai Din Ka Jhonpra
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Varaha Upanishad
I was trying to post this article again on DYK after it got promoted to GA on 2 February 2016. But when I try to post it on the DYK template the earlier version [5] which was withdrawn by me appears. It has to be posted by tomarrow. Can you please tell me the procedure to follow to post this as a GA article on DYK?-- Nvvchar . 09:54, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yoninah has re-opened the nomination. You can also create a new page with "2nd nomination" in the title (e.g. Template:Did you know nominations/Whopper (2nd nomination)). utcursch &#124; talk 16:48, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

User:Infosmart09
Thanks for the blook. My fingers were getting tired! Meters (talk) 05:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem, and thanks for tagging all those articles as spam. utcursch &#124; talk 05:45, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Bharata Khanda
Hi Utcursch, Thanks for all the clean-up you have been doing for all the historical pages. The page on Bharata Khanda has loads of tags on it, and now it is part of a huge template Template:Bharata Khanda and Janapadas. Most of the pages on the template are also in a sorry state. Don't know what to do about it. - Kautilya3 (talk) 08:35, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * The term "Bharata Khanda" definitely appears in some texts (such as certain Puranas) to describe the land situated to the south of Himalayas. But I'm not sure if all these kingdoms are mentioned as part of "Bharat Khanda". Could be synthesis. The article is already tagged as original research -- if no one provides better sources, you can simply remove all the unsourced content in a few days. utcursch &#124; talk 14:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * My main worry is that all these junky pages are now every one's face, as a result of the template. While the term "Bharata Khanda" might appear in the Puranas, there is no clear definition. Neither is it known what the difference is with Bharata varsha. All this is highly dubious material historically. - Kautilya3 (talk) 15:13, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I've started a discussion at Template talk:Bharata Khanda and Janapadas. utcursch &#124; talk 15:19, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

"Ishrat Jahan encounter case" article title
I see a rather confusing situation for the article that you just moved to "Ishrat Jahan encounter case". Please let me summarize what I see in the article's history, which seems incomplete: If the outcome of the last RM was a decision to move the article to "Ishrat Jahan case", why is the current title different from that? Why is much of the article history missing? Additionally, please let me repeat what I said on the Talk page in 2013: "Please find a title that does not refer to a killing as an 'encounter', and especially please find a title that does not refer to a real killing as a 'fake encounter'. The readership of Wikipedia is world-wide. Surely, people outside of India have no idea what these terms mean. (This whole article is very confusing for someone outside of India to try to read.) The title should use the ordinary definition of words as found in a general-use dictionary."
 * There are two RM discussions recorded at Talk:Ishrat Jahan encounter case.
 * The first RM started when the article name was "Ishrat Jahan fake encounter case" and resulted in a move to "Death of Ishrat Jahan", closing on 11 July 2013.
 * The first thing that appears in the article's history is that article move on 11 July 2013‎ by EdJohnston. Obviously the article existed before that, but no previous history appears.
 * The second RM then resulted in a move to "Ishrat Jahan case", closing on 19 August 2013, but no move to give the article that name appears in the article's history.
 * No subsequent discussion of the title is recorded on the article's talk page.
 * The next move that appears in the article's history is a move of 06:46, 11 February 2016‎ by Abhishekrahul13 from "Ishrat Jahan fake encounter case" to "Ishrat Jahan Encounter Case" with no edit summary. Obviously, at least one additional move that does not appear in the article's history record must have happened between 19 August 2013 and 11 February 2016‎, because "Ishrat Jahan fake encounter case" was not the name of the article on 19 August 2013.
 * The next move that appears in the article's history is your move of 16:25, 11 February 2016 from "Ishrat Jahan Encounter Case" to "Ishrat Jahan encounter case" citing WP:MOS.

—BarrelProof (talk) 18:12, 11 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I've no problems with the article being moved to Ishrat Jahan case. I just fixed the random upper-cases as per our article naming guidelines. The missing page history appears to result from this improper edit. I'll merge the history of two pages. utcursch &#124; talk 18:20, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the rapid response and helpful attention to this matter. I will take a look at the article history again after the histmerge has been completed, and at that time I may move the article back to "Ishrat Jahan case" – depending on what I see in the history. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've already moved the article in the process of merging history. Here are the edits that caused the problem: . utcursch &#124; talk 18:24, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. —BarrelProof (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Srinagar
Srinagar city has more population than Jammu city but Jammu district has more population than Srinagar district, so we can say that Srinagar is the largest city in J&K but Jammu district is the largest district in the state. u can see this http://www.census2011.co.in/urbanagglomeration.php. You can also view wikipedia page for Jammu city. In the infobox it is mentioned that it has a population of about 0.6 million, while srinagar has the population of 1.1 million mentioned in its article or simply visit the above site to see the difference. thanks....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Owais Khursheed (talk • contribs)


 * Thanks for the correction. utcursch &#124; talk 16:24, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Non-RS: The Esoteric Codex books
@Utcursh: Google books search results include a series of books, with the title prefix "The Esoteric Codex:". I checked a few, and they were all copy-paste of wikipedia articles. It is not plagiarism though, because the book, in its last pages declares itself to be creative commons licensed, and includes a list of wikipedia articles/usernames. However, all these books are non-RS since they just mirror old wikipedia articles. These 2014/2015 published books are starting to appear in wikipedia articles, such as those in Project Hinduism and related spaces. I removed one from Atharvaveda. Please check the last pages of this, and page 456 of this, and others. If appropriate, please add it to the page with caution on Gyan Publishing etc. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 11:33, 20 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Unlike Gyan, these are not plagiarized books. They credit Wikipedia, so they are not allowed per WP:CIRCULAR. Also, these are Lulu.com books, so not allowed per WP:SPS. We should simply remove them: I've removed all that I could find. utcursch &#124; talk 23:25, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Copyvio revdel on To Kill a Mockingbird
Hi Utcursch,

It looks like you only removed two of the revisions from the history (the first and the last). The copyvio can still be seen in all the intervening revisions. Don't you have to redact everything between those as well? --Majora (talk) 17:43, 21 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I hadn't noticed that there were revisions in between. Will delete those too. utcursch &#124; talk 17:52, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Karaiyar
Hi. Why are you keeping deleting facts that i have added to Karaiyar, when the facts come from good sources, which are also written down in books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muvendar (talk • contribs) 01:43, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

The sources i have added to the article Karaiyar, supports the content. If you search in the sources for "karaiyar", you will find that the sources support the contents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muvendar (talk • contribs) 01:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page. utcursch &#124; talk 01:58, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Saharan clan
I am a member of that clan. I know the ground reality so I dont need to make references. you on the other hand should not interfere in our clan as you are not a member — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airinfantry (talk • contribs) 05:40, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * See WP:COI, WP:OWN and WP:V. utcursch &#124; talk 05:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

oh so now mr utcursch is not just after my clan but after the sihag and sangwan clans as well well it seems mr utcursch has a lot of free time to waste maybe he should tell us about his caste and then we can see what wiki has in store for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airinfantry (talk • contribs)


 * See WP:NPA. Nobody is after your clan. Add verifiable content backed by reliable sources, and nobody would bother undoing your edits. utcursch &#124; talk 00:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

ok  fine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Airinfantry (talk • contribs)

Thamizh
My assumption is correct. You must be a Hindiwaala. Thamizh is the humans' 1st language is a fact which is universally accepted. In fact acc to ancient India, south people were the real Indians. Now you, a descendent of some uncultured mix, asking me proof for it. What a fate!. Get lost. Never ever try to disprove our ancient vedic stuffs. Though I'm a rationalist, it seriously hurted me when an uncultured Hindiwaala asking us proof. Thamizhandaa.. Go TamilNadu and ask proof. You ll know that you are just a latest Indian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.202.136.223 (talk) 16:03, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm assuming you are, and are referring to this edit. Have a look at No personal attacks and Verifiability. utcursch &#124; talk 16:26, 25 February 2016 (UTC)