User talk:UtherSRG/Archive 4

Happy UtherSRG's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk  • 01:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * 25 Aug for you.  — Rlevse • Talk  • 01:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

You deleted a page I created...
It was located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Signal

I was wondering what I have to do to have it reinstated and to get a copy of it.

Thanks

Quibian (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Aardwolf (disambiguation) for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Aardwolf (disambiguation), which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Aardwolf (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. — Gavia immer (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia NYC Meetup Sat Oct 16
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, review the recent Wiki-Conference NYC 2010, plan for the next stages of projects like Wikipedia Ambassador Program and Wikipedia Academy, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the May meeting's minutes).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and generally enjoy ourselves and kick back.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 16:23, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Kit Fox
If you Google "Kit Fox," this appears in the results:

"Kit Fox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Kit fox (Vulpes macrotis) is a fox species living at Wendy's, Burger King, and McDonalds. Its range extends from the southwestern New York City into ...

Hunting and eating habits - Mating - Subspecies - References en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_Fox - Cached - Similar"

This does not appear in the text of the article...I can't find it to elliminate. You smart enough, to fix this?

Zuvaruvi (talk) 04:54, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


 * That's an issue with Google's caching of webpages. In this case, it cached a vandalized version of the article. they refresh their caches from time to time. When you looked, the article had already been fixed, and now Google's cache has the fixed version. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Regent Palace Hotel
You deleted a page on the Regent Palace Hotel in London for the reason that some of the text was quoting another webpage, which was the hotel site. For info, the hotel is now closed, and it is likey that that website will be removed from the web. That being the case I request the page is reinstated to Wikipedia. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonnyboy122 (talk • contribs) 18:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Denied. If you wish it restored, take it to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Palm Civet
I noted that Palm-civetis a redirect( to Paradoxurus). Now on the Paradoxurus page all the species are listed in the form "Palm civet" (no hyphen). It seems sensible to me that there should be a similar redirect from Palm civet. However when I attempted to create such a redirect I saw that you had previously deleted Palm civet when it was a redirect to Civet.

Would you agree to my creating a redirect from Palm civet to Paradoxurus?

VinculumMan (talk) 15:03, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, and have done so. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks VinculumMan (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Collaborations
Hey UtherSRG, this is a notice that we are starting another collaboration with WP:MAMMAL, and we would like you to see if you are still interested in all the articles you nominated. Once we get started, we could really use your help! Thanks! The Arbiter  ★★★  18:14, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

NYC Meetup: Saturday, December 4
Our next Wikipedia NYC Meetup is this weekend on Saturday Dec 4 at Brooklyn Museum during their awesome First Saturdays program, starting at 5 PM.

A particular highlight for the wiki crowd will be 'Seductive Subversion: Women Pop Artists, 1958–1968', and the accompanying "WikiPop" project, with specially-created Wikipedia articles on the artists displayed on iPads in the gallery.

This will be a museum touring and partying meetup, so no excuses about being a shy newbie this time. Bring a friend too!

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Meetup/NYC/Invite list.

To keep up-to-date on local events, you can also join our mailing list. This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 22:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Announcement
Hello! I'm The Arbiter, one of the coordinators for WikiProject Zoo. I am proud to announce the launch of a new portal: Portal:Zoos and Aquariums! ZooPro, ZooFari, and I worked hard to create a new portal for information on zoos, aquariums, and the associated projects and articles on Wikipedia. If you could head on over, take a look at our work, and maybe learn some more about zoos and Wikiproject Zoo, it would be great! Cheers and Happy Editing!

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of The Arbiter (talk) at 03:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC).

WikiProject Animals/Draft capitalization guidelines
User:ZooPro has suggested that I request your feedback and/or modifications to this proposal. If you think that it has worth, I would like to post an RfC, notify relevant groups, then announce it at WikiProject Manual of Style. If this is unlikely to be helpful or achieve anything, please be frank. I won't be offended.

Quick links:
 * Original discussion
 * Naming conventions (fauna)
 * PROPOSAL
 * Discussion between ZooPro and Anna Frodesiak at Anna's talk
 * Discussion between ZooPro and Anna Frodesiak at ZooPro's talk

This message has been sent to:
 * 1) User:Anthony Appleyard
 * 2) User:Donlammers
 * 3) User:Innotata
 * 4) User:Intelligentsium
 * 5) User:Materialscientist
 * 6) User:Mokele
 * 7) User:Rlendog
 * 8) User:Ucucha
 * 9) User:UtherSRG
 * 10) User:Visionholder
 * 11) User:ZooPro

Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Platypus
Hey, your opinion is requested at the talk page of the platypus article, to finally put this stupid capitalisation debate to rest. Cheers! Aaadddaaammm (talk) 11:07, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Comfort (definition)
Re your deletion, I'm not sure that it was correct per the reason you gave. I deleted Comfort definition because it was a duplicate of Comfort (definition), not because an AfD debate had called for its deletion. Your deletion of Comfort (definition) as a duplicate of a page that was deleted via AfD is therefore incorrect. The AfD debate is still live. In other words, the deletion may be correct, but the reason given is not.

That said, I did !vote delete at AfD, and do not see that the article will survive AfD. Even so, should the article be restored to allow the debate to run its full course. There would be no long term harm done by such a restoration, as the AfD would be over in less than a week. Other than that, should this be raised at WP:AN for discussion. Mjroots (talk) 12:26, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Webchutney
Hello UtherSRG. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Webchutney, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: '''Awards won and rannking would indicate some notability sufficient for A7. PROD or take to AfD if required.''' Thank you. Ged UK  13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Haroula Constandinidou (attorney at law)
Hello UtherSRG. I am just letting you know that I deleted Haroula Constandinidou (attorney at law), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 16:25, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

KTK School Systems
Just to let you know I do not agree with you declining the CSD. If it were not a school, it would be A7 as well. --Kudpung (talk) 10:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Schools can't be CSD'd. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:51, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes they can, just not A7. But I know better than to argue with  a sysop ;) --Kudpung (talk) 10:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

zOMG
YOU DELETED MY PAGE HOW DARE YOU
 * c( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Toodlepop (talk • contribs) 13:32, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion converted to PROD: All 6’s And 7’s
Hello UtherSRG. I am just letting you know that I have converted the speedy deletion tag that you placed on All 6’s And 7’s to a proposed deletion tag, because I do not believe CSD applies to the page in question - the artist has an article, this is a WP:HAMMERable rumour about his album, but it can't be speedied, unfortunately. JohnCD (talk) 18:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of "Agency Worker Regulations 2010" page
Hiya I did NOT create the article Agency Worker Regulations but received a link to it in a spoof mail. I added text saying that it was a link from the phishing company and that any offer of work from home from this company should be regarded as illegal. Please check your facts before accusing people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katsapa (talk • contribs) 11:52, 11 February 2011 (UTC) Katsapa (talk) 12:30, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Methods in Ecology and Evolution
Just a note that per this request on my talk page, I have restored this article and reopened the AFD. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:00, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

FYI; RfC about primates/cases
I thought you might want to see this: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Primates. ErikHaugen (talk | contribs) 19:46, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Haiku Operating System components
A tag has been placed on Template:Haiku Operating System components requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (&lt;noinclude>&#123;{transclusionless}}&lt;/noinclude>).

Thanks. mabdul 13:29, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance
Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on April 30, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/April 30, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article director,. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! Tb hotch * ۩ ۞ 20:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

 

The fossa is a cat-like, carnivorous mammal that is endemic to Madagascar. It is a member of the Eupleridae, a family of carnivorans closely related to the mongoose family. Its classification has been controversial because its physical traits resemble those of cats, yet other traits suggest a close relationship with viverrids. The fossa is the largest mammalian carnivore on the island of Madagascar and has been compared to a small cougar. Adults have a head-body length of 70 - 80 cm and weigh between 5.5 - 8.6 kg, with the males larger than the females. It has semi-retractable claws and flexible ankles that allow it to climb up and down trees head-first, and also support jumping from tree-to-tree. The fossa is unique within its family for the shape of its genitalia, which share traits with those of cats and hyenas. The species is widespread, although population densities are usually low. It is found solely in forested habitat, and actively hunts both day and night. Over 50% of its diet consists of lemurs, the endemic primates found on the island, though tenrecs, rodents, lizards, birds, and other animals are also documented as prey. The fossa is listed as "Vulnerable" by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN). The greatest threat to the species is habitat destruction. (more...)

Forgetting something?
Hello. I noticed that you left a block notice on User talk:Swampmonster123 but he is not blocked, as far as I can tell. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 23:20, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Whoops! LOL! Fixed. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 23:22, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Dru Hepkins Page
I’m writing because we keep submitting a bio for Dru Hepkins and it keeps being deleted, we feel without research or fact checking. Everyone in his bio, the Grammy nominated DJ he has released 4 successful songs with to date, the DJ who picked Dru Hepkins’ hit House track “Red Light” as the “hot download pick” and his famous news reporter brother are all in wikepdia, but his page is deleted? Dru Hepkins is on several Dance label music compilations and has even appeared on Real Housewives of New York DJ-ing his original music to be aired in June. We understand that you need to shoot down a lot of fluff daily, but it may lead to a trigger happy deletion situation. Not everyone is a megastar household name, but some are signed artists and writers known in various circles with varying achievements and deserve their page. Regarding criteria, Dru Hepkins has the works: He’s a signed artists with House records played all over the world, has a locally famous brother, he was a state champion track star and the list can literally go on and on. Besides a Nobel Peace Prize what else would he need? This deletion was unwarranted and we’re just asking for re-consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockult (talk • contribs) 16:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Take your complaint and desire to restore the article to deletion review, where it belongs. Instead of trying to continually recreate the article, you should try to use the systems in place. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

This is a free online encyclopedia and there isn’t a customer service department. We don't know the proper protocol; we read the several varying situations and tried to do the most effective thing relative to the situation. The last thing we read that sounded like our situation was to contact the administrator who deleted the article-- so we tried that. Thank you for this information and will try this next. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockult (talk • contribs) 17:24, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I see you've found the help you needed. - UtherSRG (talk)

Everett Coleman
The article keeps getting deleted. You are saying there is no proof that its a notable person. This is getting very frustrating as I feel you are not taking the time to really consider the article. It is plenty worthy because Everett is a professional gamer that is directly affiliated with multiple other professionals listed on Wikipedia. What is the problem here? I have countless ways to proof that the article is worthy but you are not taking the time to really investigate the situation before deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resser123 (talk • contribs) 19:59, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Take your complaint and desire to restore the article to deletion review, where it belongs. Instead of trying to continually recreate the article, you should try to use the systems in place. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:03, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but you stopped answering my last inquiry. I submitted the ticket. I really don't know why you won't approve of the article as it is quite obvious that it is more than worthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Resser123 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not involved in the deletion review process. Be patient and wait for folks to see the ticket and review the deletion. don't restore the article. That's in their hands now. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Mob Fandango
Hello UtherSRG, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Mob Fandango, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 15:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Not sure if you got this - Tassie Devil FAR
nominated Tasmanian Devil for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. I think the original message was archived before you got it, but the article is still in the first stage. --Malkinann (talk)
 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Recreating the article "CoolSpeech"
Hello UtherSRG,

I'm the author of the program CoolSpeech for which someone else created a Wikipedia article but you deleted it. I didn't read that article and don't know why it was deleted. Now I'm trying to recreate it but Wikipedia says I should ask you first. I can prove CoolSpeech's notability: It was featured on ZDNet as "Hot File of the Day" on June 6, 2001; it was featured on MSN as "Feature Download"; it was featured on SmartComputing magazine as "Smart Choice". For more details, see http://www.bytecool.com/awards.htm

Feel free to ask me any questions at yaoziyuan@gmail.com.


 * I hope you found the help you were looking for. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Small
I am having trouble with the Everett "Small" Coleman page. You deleted it and I believe it is more than worthy of Wikipedia. How can we resolve this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachSmall (talk • contribs) 22:03, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Your article is not worthy of being in Wikipedia. If you disagree, go to WP:DRV. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

How can you say that the article is not worthy? Its a biography of a professional gamer who is directly associated with other gamers that have Wikipedia pages. This needs to be looked into further because the article is more than worthy judging by other similar articles on Wikipedia already. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CoachSmall (talk • contribs) 02:32, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Ignored. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Yogscast
Thank you. I've requested creation protection on here, can you do that? --HTMLCODER.exe (talk) 23:11, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Someone else beat me to it. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like they remade the page again, and CIreland nuked it again. Kill this file, too, please. It's a remnant of that page (I already placed a CSD). Thanks for helping me out! --HTMLCODER.exe (talk) 23:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome, the file's nuked, and CIreland salted the Yogscast page. I think we put a stopper on that! --HTMLCODER.exe (talk) 23:25, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there a possibility to stop not registered person from spamming on new created page? It's vandalism and we can't fix the page every fev minutes... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.76.111.171 (talk) 23:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's called IP blocking. Alternatively, one may protect the page. Both actions are restricted to admins AFAIK. Although if you are referring to the Yogscast page, it's now protected so it cannot be even created. HTMLCODER.exe (talk) 00:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Answered. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

On Deletion of Ignacio Valenti Lacroix
I noticed that a new page was created, after your deletion of Ignacio Valenti Lacroix. I'm at a loss as to how to locate the discussion that took place on Ignacio Valenti Lacroix. I don't know if the AfD discussions are difficult to search, or I am just a novice at it. I tried searching each day individually without avail. Anyway, I'm wondering if this is circumventing the deletion or was suggested by the discussion. Thanks. Niluop (talk) 03:09, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Dunno. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

School article help (draft)
Thanks for deleting that  for me. I was going  to  delete  it  myself anyway but  you  beat  me to  it. It happened because I  forgot the '/' when I  was creating  a sub page in  my  user space. Cheers, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:25, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

WU LYF
Could you please explain how an article on a band that has received coverage from the NME, the Guardian, the Observer and several other publications qualify for WP:CSD? Even the fact that the wikipedia article keeps getting deleted has received coverage! Robman94 (talk) 19:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It was a previously deleted article. Its restoration should be handled via the deletion review process. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I haven't seen any of the prior versions, but I assume they didn't contain references, and I'm also assuming the people who nominated them for CSD didn't bother to check if references actually exist (as they obviously do). The article that I created had dozens of references from very reliable resources.  So am I to understand that any article that has previously been deleted can be deleted in seconds by any admin, regardless of whether the article still meets the criteria that it was previously deleted under, and without the benefit of an WP:AfD review.  If that is really the case, that's very scary. Could you please refer me to where that is included in the wiki rules? The fact that Wikipedia deleted the article on the band has itself been covered in the press, only increasing their notability!  Robman94 (talk) 19:21, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ask on WP:DRV. I'm not interested in debating or discussing. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:28, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm reading through the very lengthy instructions now. They say the first step is to discuss it with the deleting admin, but I take it from your last response that there's no point in me trying to do that, right? Robman94 (talk) 19:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct. My stance is that the vast majority of CSDs were properly deleted and so should go through DRV. I hold this to be true for total rewrites: go through the process to keep everything fair and square. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:39, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * DRV started. Feel free to contribute if you're interested. Robman94 (talk) 22:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

CSD on Robert's Western World
Just letting you know, I have challenged your CSD A7 on Robert's Western World. In my assessment, the article makes a sufficient indication as to why it is important to survive deletion under A7. I also did a quick Google News search which suggests to me the article may even pass the notability standards, so I have not tagged it for an alternative deletion process, I have no objection if you want to though. Monty 845  20:43, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is also 3 times the size as it was when I had tagged it. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it looks like the author was adding content while fighting with the patrol bot. It was improved significantly from the version you tagged. Monty  <sub style="color:#A3BFBF;">845  21:16, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

unknown
Deletion of a page I was currently working on editing a page when it was deleted before I finnished editing. If it is possible could you undo the deletion of the page I was working on. _Helpfuleditor2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helpfuleditor2 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I might have if you listed the page.... - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Jason Dormon
why did you delete this page? Dribblingscribe 14:38, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * CSD A7, as the deletion logs show. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:47, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

do bbc / independent reviews not signify notability? i do think they do! Dribblingscribe 14:48, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I am uninterested in having discussions about CSD'd items. Take it to deletion review. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - what an absolute idiot you are. what you are saying is you are uninterested in the rule of law being applied and you are going to be some wikinazi and shit on someone's work? is that your finest act to date? people like you really offend me. Dribblingscribe 14:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry you feel that way. I may take the notability requirements to be more stringent than others, but I am interested inthe rule of law, or as we have it here on Wikipedia, the rule of consensus. thus, I ask you to go to DRV so that more people can be involved in the decision. And please, there's no need for your histrionics and name calling. There was nothing personal about the deletion or my reply to you; there should be nothing personal in your comments to me. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

looking at this page of yours i note that you are a repeat offender on this matter. histrionics is your reaction to somebody's request for fair treatment? very odd. Dribblingscribe 15:07, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Histrionics, such as "hahahahahaha..." and "mikinazi". - UtherSRG (talk) 15:25, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

"Before listing a review request please attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page as this could resolve the matter more quickly. There could have been a mistake, miscommunication, or misunderstanding, and a full review may not be needed. Such discussion also gives the admin the opportunity to clarify the reasoning behind a decision. If things don't work out, please note in the DRV listing that you first tried discussing the matter with the admin who deleted the page."

I am doing what Wikipedia asks. Trying to talk to you. Open and honest. Final chance, will you step up to the mark? Where does the article fall down in your oh-so-humble opinion? Dribblingscribe 15:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for complying with the request. I've given my answer. I'm sorry you are frustrated by this. I'm not required to continue a discussion. You are requested to start one, but that is farther than things need to go before you go to DRV. And, I politely asked to to not have this conversation as I am uninterested in it. I have actively declined the opportunity to expound upon my position, and again, politely. You, on the other hand, have verbally attacked me and accused me of not "step[ping] up to the mark". I'm not required to do anything more than what I've done. Please just go to DRV and move on with it. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia asks that I "attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page" and so this I have done. I am glad you admit to "actively (declining) the opportunity to expound upon (your) position" - we both agree you are failing to be transparent. I have not accused you of not stepping up to the mark. I have asked if you will. Please re-read what I wrote! There is a difference. I assume your attempts to try to accuse me of an attack is an attempt to justify your harsh treatment. If you are going to quote me then please do things correctly! Dribblingscribe 15:40, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I've restored the Dormon article, because it clearly asserts notability and supposrts this with multiple independent references. Seriously, maybe you should take a few days off? It's true that Dribblingscribe was rude, but you were in the wrong. DS (talk) 17:30, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll consider it. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

deletion
hi, i am new to wiki life, and so apologize if i am naive, but i put up a page today, Albert J Levis, MD which was quickly deleted. it was libeled for the following reasons: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). i want to contest both of these assertions in that the page was not advertising anything, and the subject was significant in terms of addressing the bio of a researcher that has advanced a serious psychological theory. i turn to you because i received the alert message from you, although i know you did not delete the page. any advice would be much appreciated. thanks for your help, Mlevis (talk) 18:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlevis (talk • contribs) 18:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please read the notability guides. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Comment
Uther,

I read your page today with a great deal of dismay. I worry about the example you're setting for new users, and the hostility that i'm seeing displayed here is troubling. I wonder if you'd consider taking a few weeks away from the tools? We'll keep the house in order while you do. But I think it's important that you recalibrate your decisions with the rest of the community. In my capacity as an administrator and volunteer, not as an employee action. - <span style="font-family:Papyrus, sans-serif; color:#775ca8;">Philippe 18:04, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not hostile. I've been very calm and rational. I may have been short in my words, but I have not been hostile. Indeed, when faced with a rather rude user bordering on hostile, I was plenty patient and calm. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

I think this is very much justified. I have never come across such sabotage and abuse. If we allow people to act like this then things will fall over. Dribblingscribe 23:19, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please stop writing on my wall. You are not being helpful. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:12, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

It seems you have a fan
See User:UlherSRG. The Blade of the Northern Lights ( 話して下さい ) 19:00, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Wonderful.... - UtherSRG (talk) 19:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Declining A7
I'm declining your A7 deletion request for Glyn Lewis. There are several sourced assertions of significance in the article, including "Lewis leads the Academic Unit of Psychiatry at the University of Bristol" and noted publications in The Lancet. A very cursory news search shows many articles wherein Lewis and his studies are quoted in reliable sources, including BBC News. There is absolutely no way that this article is a valid A7 candidate.--<b style="color:Navy;">Jezebel's</b> Ponyo <sup style="color:Navy;">bons mots 19:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:55, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Legacy of the Battle of Little Big Horn AfD
If you'd care to withdraw the AfD nomination on Legacy of the Battle of Little Big Horn, I'll turn it into a redirect to Battle of the Little Bighorn, where the topic is already covered. —C.Fred (talk) 20:36, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, I've just gone ahead and closed the AfD early. It's obvious that no article is warranted, but a redirect is reasonable. —C.Fred (talk) 20:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Sounds good enough to me. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

SPEEDY DELETION TAG ON SUDAN NOW
I responded to your tag - any idea when decision will be made as to if it can be removed? --Jespah (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I responded there. You need to understand out policies. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Wish Upon A Hero
Hi UtherSRG- I wanted to repost the Wish Upon A Hero page that was deleted. We have edited the article language so as not to come off promotional and would love to submit it again for another round of review. Wikipedia suggested I contact you before trying to submit the article again. Thanks. StarGroupies (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please post it here for review. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, I've submitted it for review, but you can continue to work on it. Note that it has moved, but the link above still works. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Please be more careful
I've removed the speedy deletion tag on Achaean War. The article names the war's participants and the year when it happened, plus briefly addressing the historical background. By no means does it fit the "no context" criterion. I know that looking at a bunch of new articles, most of which should be junked right away, can make one careless in applying deletion tags, but please try to read more carefully. Thank you. A. Parrot (talk) 00:12, 7 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Declined A7
Hi, I've removed the A7 tag on Giorgos Karadimos... the lack of paragraph formatting made it difficult to read, but there were indications of notability in the article, specifically in the two albums released on Universal records (WP:MUS criterion 5).

Cheers, Catfish Jim   &#38; the soapdish  08:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)


 * No problemo. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:01, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Reasons and rationales
Uther, please believe me when I say that I know very well how much crap an admin has to face on a daily basis, what with all the garbage we have to delete.

But if someone does come to you and ask for an explanation of why the page was deleted, they deserve an answer that's a little more detailed than "read the deletion log". Okay? DS (talk) 15:43, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Generally, yes, but I was already aware that this user was uncivil. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Similarly, there's a line where "I interpret things a bit more strictly" translates as "actively disregarding the criteria". significance, not notability. And try to avoid deleting things under G4 because you previously CSDd them; that tag is to be used when an AfD on the subject has occurred. Ironholds (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Ironholds (talk) - Uther's silence on this is deafening! Dribblingscribe 16:12, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Indiestu I set up a profile so I could start to write on wikipedia. why did you delete this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Indiestu (talk • contribs) 15:49, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not your username. You should not edit others' user profiles. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Or rather it wasn't when you edited it. If you are changing usernames to avoid the warnings you have previously received, that's a bad move. - UtherSRG (talk)

I was asked to do it by him. He is a close friend. He is getting started. Is helping someone get started by putting to boxes signifying their favourite football teams such a bad move? If helping people is bad then this world has gone mad! Dribblingscribe 15:58, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

It also does not explain why you have deleted his profile? Dribblingscribe 16:01, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Restored. do try to avoid these kinds of edits. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Ryeland Allison. Not only is it not CSDable, it's not even deletable. As said, there's a line between "being stringent" and "failing to follow the rules" - you've crossed it. Read policy, understand it and apply it, or I'll take this discussion further up the food chain. Ironholds (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

UtherSRG, I agree that Jason Dormon was a very bad deletion. While it was correctly tagged as A7 at the time, by the time you deleted it, there were lots of references, and several assertions of notability that should have sent it to AfD at worst. "I am uninterested in having discussions about CSD'd items" was also not good.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Difficult users make for difficult situations. I'll keep an eye on those... - UtherSRG (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I asked UtherSRG very politely, without any verbal abuse, why he deleted one of my articles (see WU_LYF above), and I got exactly the same response. He said he was not interested in discussing it.  Then when his deletion got overturned at DRV, he waited for a brand new user to delete all of the references then he nominated it AfD.  I concur with DS that maybe this admin needs to take a few days off. Robman94 (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

ANI
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Ironholds (talk) 19:17, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you should engage with this ANI thread. An acknowledgement that some of your deletions were out of process, a pledge to follow CSD rules more closely (e.g. recognising that the threshold for A7 is the weak and permissive "credible claim to importance" far below WP:N) and a pledge to discuss concerns over your deletions (which you have previously frequently refused to do) would likely avert an RfC/U. If you don't engage with this, you might lose the mop. We're all accountable as admins. Fences  &amp;  Windows  17:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice reply :) We're all human, I screw up admining sometimes too. Fences  &amp;  Windows  19:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I see
I see that you are an administrator. Could you put the  template on your userpage? -- H   i   u   b    y    Jɑpɑn Rocks!  日本ゴー！    00:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I see that you have removed a message. -- H   i   u   b    y    Jɑpɑn Rocks!  日本ゴー！    00:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I removed a '?' section in which you said nothing, but signed multiple times. I AGF'd what could have been taken as vandalism, and just quietly deleted what I saw as nonsense. I'll explore puttin the tag on my user page. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:14, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Please stop doing this: You added 2 "=" characters in the heading above. I have fixed that and the 2 "=" characters have been removed. -- H   i   u   b    y    Jɑpɑn Rocks! 日本ゴー！   19:46, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * No. Notice all of the section headings on this and most talk pages start at the level of 2 equal signs. The single equal sign level is reserved for special uses. In fact, if you click the plus sign at the top of this page to add a new section, it will use the 2 equal sign level. I believe you are attempting to harass me. Please stop or I will have to report you. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok. *sigh* -- H   i   u   b    y    Jɑpɑn Rocks! 日本ゴー！   20:02, 9 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, what does AGF'd mean? it's like NONSENSE. -- H   i   u   b    y    Jɑpɑn Rocks! 日本ゴー！   19:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * AGF means "assume good faith"... I'm starting to regret that assumption, as your behavior since has been nothing but vandalism and harassment. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

HAHAHAHAHAHA Dribblingscribe 11:10, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Sematics of bullying
I think it is pointless even keeping Sematics of bullying as a redirect:
 * Sematics is not even a word, it is a mispelling of semantics
 * Semantics or sematics of bullying is very unlikely to be searched by anybody
 * It actually covered school bullying and not bullying in general as suggested by the title.

you can reply here.Penbat (talk) 14:59, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Understood. Given my recent history, I figured the redirect would be a good half-step. If you tag it for CSD deletion, I'll kill it. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * looked the most relevant to me.Penbat (talk) 15:09, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Good enough. I deleted it as R3. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Twinkle!
Hey you said it would be better to reply about this on your talk page. I see you have Twinkle installed via your your .js page. I have it installed via Special:Preferences, and I'm not very good with .js scripts but I'll do my best to help you. Have you tried clearing your cache? — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 16:53, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd forgotten I had it installed in my vector.js. I probably forgot about that when I later enabled it via my user preferences. so I disabled it from the user prefs, edited it out of my vector.js, and re-enabled it in my user prefs. Still gives me the old one. Ok, how do I flush my cache again? (*sigh*) - UtherSRG (talk) 16:58, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Depends. What browser you on? (Oh by the way, I'm überforgetful, so if you wouldn't mind, would you leave a talkback on my page? Thanks! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Firefox. I thought shift-control-r to reload without the cache, but then thought not since I still didn't see the change, but since it seems that as an admin I won't see that feature anyway.... - UtherSRG (talk) 18:04, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm... Twinkle should be updated to show admins that feature... Anyways, I think you might be right about the ctrl-shift-r sequence to clear your cache, but just in case, you can always press ctrl-shift-del, uncheck all the boxes except cache, then make sure that the amount of time to delete is set to 'everything' and then hit okay. Hope this helps! — Preceding signed comment added by Cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 00:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Touch for archive - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Declined speedy: How Do You Roll?
I declined your speedy tag on How Do You Roll?. There are two independent, reliable sources talking about the business, which is enough to constitute a "credible claim of significance or importance". Feel free to take it to WP:AfD if you like, but speedying this one is not appropriate, in my opinion. Thanks! – GorillaWarfare talk • contribs 21:06, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Local mentions in promotional websites count? *shrugs* Ok. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:08, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Touch for archive - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Warning regarding speedy deletions
I've read with dismay AN/I and the large number of comments on your talk page regarding many grossly inappropriate speedy deletions and requests for the same. Since polite requests to moderate your behavior haven't worked, I'm going to try a different approach: if you continue, I will open a request for comment on the use of administrative privileges. Should the problematic behavior continue following the RFC, I will bring the issue to the Arbitration Committee, and you will almost certainly be desysopped. Chester Markel (talk) 05:18, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to check - are there any edits he's made with blatant problems attached since I opened that ANI thread and he acknowledged it? Ironholds (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I don't believe there have been. Robman94 (talk) 14:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, there have. UtherSRG responded to the AN/I thread on 14:10, 9 May 2011, promising to improve his conduct. At 14:55, 9 May 2011, he frivolously nominated the article WU LYF for deletion, after the references were vandalized, without bothering to restore them. In the AFD discussion, several editors opined for a "speedy keep" outcome. On 20:58, 9 May 2011, UtherSRG requested the speedy deletion of How Do You Roll? under CSD A7, which was declined. At 20:57, 9 May 2011, UtherSRG deleted Alternative gender systems under CSD A10 (it clearly doesn't qualify.) When the article was recreated, he requested speedy deletion under the same criteron at 21:58, 9 May 2011. The speedy deletion request was declined by another administrator . On 21:16, 9 May 2011, UtherSRG requested the speedy deletion of Colonial/Modern Gender System under CSD A10, again declined as obviously not meeting the criterion. Chester Markel (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Then I would advise Chester Markel to read the ANI thread more closely - particularly, what future options were suggested and what UtherSRG was told - and avoid pouring fuel into the already growing flames. Uther has had his situation made clear to him, and has responded with promises to change. There is no need to issue repetitive and overlapping threats, which only have the potential to drive an editor contributing in good faith off the project. Cowering him into silence is not the objective here. Ironholds (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Per my comment above, problems with UtherSRG's deletion-related activities had continued after he initially responded to the AN/I thread, at the time I wrote the warning. If he hadn't been facing the credible prospect of desysopping, the misconduct probably would have continued. Chester Markel (talk) 17:14, 12 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for informing me; in that case, this is his last chance. Ironholds (talk) 17:33, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ironholds. I'm on my way home for 3 weeks of home leave. I'll be most absent until I get back to work after that. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:01, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Touch for archive - UtherSRG (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

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Primates are a mammalian order which includes modern humans. Most non-human primates live in tropical or subtropical regions of the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Primates range in size from the Madame Berthe's mouse lemur, which weighs only 30 g to the mountain gorilla weighing 200 kg. According to fossil evidence, the primitive ancestors of primates may have existed in the late Cretaceous period around 65 million years ago, and the oldest known primate is the Late Paleocene Plesiadapis, c. 55–58 million years ago. Primates are characterized by their large brains, and increased reliance on stereoscopic vision at the expense of smell. These features are most marked in monkeys and apes, and noticeably less so in lorises and lemurs. Three-color vision has developed in some primates. Most also have opposable thumbs and some have prehensile tails. (more...)

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Renaissance (Tunisia) listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * No thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:47, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

FAR notice
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 * Definitely needs some work.... - UtherSRG (talk) 04:49, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Capitalization of common names of animal species
Hello. Just letting you know that I've posted the following at a number of project talk pages:

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Request bureaucracy
HI MR. UtherSRG، I am a Persian-speaking users

Unfortunately, no bureaucratic Persian section wikimedia

I request because bureaucracy

thank you Ali ringo (talk) 14:52, 8 October 2011 (UTC)


 * No thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 05:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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 * Interesting.... - UtherSRG (talk) 05:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, it's gonna be quite awesome. Hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Creating a page that was previously deleted
Hello Mr. UtherSRG,

I was trying to create a new article for a company called "Gulf Business Machines" but I got an error prompting me to contact you due to the deletion of the mentioned page before. Is it possible now to create this article?

Thank you,

Regards, Hussain Trollslanda (talk) 21:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC)


 * By your formality, I am assuming that English is not your primary language. You may want to consider writing your article on the Wiki of your primary language. If you decide you want to write it in English, then you can use the New Article Wizard. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:23, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

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 * Noted... - UtherSRG (talk) 06:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

National Archives Extrava SCAN za

 * Noted... - UtherSRG (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for helping on the Orangutan article. Maybe my standards have relaxed a bit, but I think it has a real chance to pass GAN this time. If you see any obvious issues, feel free to comment on the GAN. Otherwise, you edits will be very beneficial. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; font-family: fantasy, cursive, Serif">– Maky  « talk » 06:38, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm working it. Do we have a tool to find overly link items? - UtherSRG (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Eeek... Not that I know of, but I also don't use many of those tools. I usually do it by eye when I do my proofread.  Sorry I can't help on that one.  <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; font-family: fantasy, cursive, Serif">–  Maky  « talk » 07:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No prob... I do the same, but thought maybe... - UtherSRG (talk) 07:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * We do: User:Ucucha/duplinks. Ucucha (talk) 15:16, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Score!!!!! - 15:18, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

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The ring-tailed lemur is a large strepsirrhine primate. It belongs to Lemuridae, one of five lemur families. Like all lemurs, it is endemic to Madagascar, living in the gallery forests and spiny scrubland in the southern regions of the island. It is omnivorous, diurnal and highly social, living in groups of up to 30 individuals. Communities are matriarchal, a trait common among lemurs. Like other lemurs, this species relies strongly on its sense of smell and marks its territory with scent glands. As one of the most vocal primates, the ring-tailed lemur utilizes numerous vocalizations such as alarm calls. Experiments have shown that, despite the lack of a large brain, the ring-tailed lemur can organize sequences, understand basic arithmetic operations and preferentially select tools based on functional qualities. Despite being listed as Near Threatened by the IUCN Red List and suffering from habitat destruction, the ring-tailed lemur reproduces readily in captivity and is the most populous lemur in zoos worldwide, numbering more than 2000 individuals. It typically lives 16 to 19 years in the wild and 27 years in captivity. (more...) UcuchaBot (talk) 23:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:39, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Taxa and prefixes
Ah okay, I thought perhaps they had been neglected to be added as opposed to be intentionally omitted. Right now I'm not sure about the difference between major and minor taxa. Is this policy made uniform with some guidelines for the labelling scheme for all bio pages?

Also in regard to Homin, you mentioned the data is duplicated from another page: but which one? Whatever is best I was wondering if we could redirect it there. I'm not asserting that it's a word, rather a shared 5-letter 2-syllable prefix of several terms (both class and common reference). Do you know if it would be possible to retrieve the deleted content? I'd like to host it on my userspace as a reminder.

Part of the trouble is that when we go to these page's articles, not all the terms get listed, due to the level ommissions on the taxonomy template. The lowest, tribe Hominini omits superfamily Hominoidea at the top. Family Hominidae omits tribe Hominini at the bottom. Superfamily Hominoidea omits two. Sub-tribeHominina actually doesn't even show up on the higher levels, it only shows up on Homo, which itself omits the sub-family.

Actually with the data additions reverted, none of these pages seem to list all 5 of them together in sequence. Even though it can be approximated by skipping through the pages (which is how I figured it out) they don't seem to be collected together for easy viewing. If there were a table set up for the 10 terms it'd be good. Y12J (talk) 06:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The major taxa are Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species. All the rest are minor taxa. So a species article may have minor taxa between species and genus, unless the taxon is monophyletic, in which case the article is about the species and the genus, so minor taxa between genus and family.
 * On Wikipedia, we do not create articles for non-words just because that combination of letters is used in multiple words. Wikipedia is not a dictionary.
 * The information you seek is in the Hominidae article. It has a section that clearly explains what you sought to explain in your article. I've ensured that all of the articles of the terms you find confusing have a hat note pointing to Hominidae. This note had been on some articles previously. - UtherSRG (talk) 07:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Old World monkey
Does it? As I recall, the rule is to include only the major taxonomic levels, and the one immediately above the one referenced in the article (in this case, the parvorder). Obviously, it's a good faith edit, but it's not my understanding of the principle we use. If you disagree, feel free to change it back; I'm not going to edit war over it. Anaxial (talk) 06:08, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * replied on user's talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 06:57, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Orangutan
Hello, would be add in the information on the cheek pads. User:Stfg is ready to copyedit. LittleJerry (talk) 02:51, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Closing another discussion?
Hi there. I'd like to ask you to consider closing the discussion Talk:Human, because I think it has started to deviate from its purpose, as detailed in my last entry at the bottom of it. Mikael Häggström (talk) 05:00, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added the request close tag to the discussion. I was a little involved in the editing of the article surrounding the image, so I recuse myself. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:16, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

just "move"?
For such an unclear case as the RM at Talk:Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event, a bit more of a closing statement would be appreciated. Thanks. Dicklyon (talk) 03:18, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, I should have said something more, and I've now done so. I'm a little new at closing RMs... I'm bored and waiting for my plane. - UtherSRG (talk) 03:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tarsius fuscus
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That was quick. Rlendog (talk) 13:51, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed! - UtherSRG (talk) 04:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Steven Black
Hey there, you moved the above page from Steven Black (disambiguation)→Steven Black after closing a RM but you didn't move the talk page could you please do so. Regards &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 11:48, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry 'bout that, usually it moves at the same time. I've fixed it now. - UtherSRG (talk) 20:46, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You were suppose to move Talk:Steven Black (disambiguation)→Talk:Steven Black as per RM, you moved Talk:Steven Black (businessman) back to Talk:Steven Black
 * Fixed. Been a long day man... just got home from a 10 hour flight. Jet lagged... - UtherSRG (talk) 04:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. &#9733;&#9734; DUCK IS JAMMMY &#9734;&#9733; 04:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Question
How many votes does it take to reach a consensus? On The Dark Knight (film), there were three people in support of moving it (four counting me), and two opposing it. So if 3/5 is not a consensus, for future reference I would just like to know what is. Thanks. --Boycool (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * There are no absolutes. We do not vote on moves (or other technical discussions) on Wikipedia. Strict counts are not required. It's an admin's job to get the feel of the discussion. In this case, since there were two previous move requests that also failed, I looked at the nature and balance of those discusssions as well. The most recent discussion did not have any significant differences from the others, so I kept with the same decisions. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Internazionale
Before you get the inevitable complaints about your close of that RM, I just wanted to say well done on a good rationale - article title consistency is an important aspect that many people overlook in favour of their own preferences for particular subjects within a topic. Number  5  7  09:45, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 12:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

About Cosmopolis move
Well, I think it's not a controversial move. I was trying to Be Bold and move the page to the disambiguation, but I can't. Otherwise I would have done it. WP:Disambig is rather clear on this: 1) A topic is primary for a term, with respect to usage, if it is highly likely—much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. 2) A topic is primary for a term, with respect to long-term significance, if it has substantially greater enduring notability and educational value than any other topic associated with that term. The novel does not fulfill either of these two requirements to be a primary topic, especially compared to the 1892 novel and the Washington city. If you think it is controversial, why not move my request to the controversial move list instead of outright deleting it? Kreachure (talk) 02:48, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I know nothing about any of the cosmopolis subjects, so I have no stake in the matter... but I also have nothing to guide me on what is the primary topic and which are secondary topics. At this point I have only your say so, and that of the fact of the current placement of the articles. I'm not saying you are wrong: just that I have no data that tells me you are right. I'd actually deleted from the contested technical moves. I think you put it in the wrong part of the technical moves page. I can't put it in the controversial section... a bot does that... and the bot grabs the info from the template I gave you. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:56, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Olive baboon
Hi UtherSRG, I appreciate you offering your help. I'm trying not to screw up the olive baboon page but I'm obviously having a hard time figuring out how to edit it. I'm editing the page as an assignment for my Intro to Primate Studies course. I'm mostly not correcting any information already written just trying to add some more facts. I have tried reading the tutorials and using the sandbox but I still don't understand how to add references so they are in the correct spot, with a number, and following the same template as the other references on the page. I clicked on the refToolbar and it automatically cited it for me but it still didn't work correctly. I'm sorry to bother you with something as silly as editing help but I would really appreciate if you could explain what I should be doing instead. Thanks, Aeliseb Aeliseb (talk) 14:32, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've seen that. You and your classmates all seem to have the same problem with figuring out how to properly cite your sources.
 * The best way to do it is to like this: Fact I am adding.
 * Then when you add more info from the same reference, you do this: Second fact I'm adding.
 * If it's not working for you, you can do this: Fact I am adding (Author, year).
 * And then down in the References section add: *Citation
 * Then someone like me will come along and clean it up so that it looks like the first format.
 * Another potion is to use your private sandbox, then invite another (more experienced) author to help you clean it up, then drop the new text into the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:46, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you can see it better at WP:INCITE. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:55, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I really appreciate your help. I think I have got it all sorted out and looking good now. Thanks again Aeliseb (talk) 20:33, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Passports of the European Union
You appear to have misread the move discussion at Talk:Passports of the European Union. Of the five users who commented:


 * Three (including myself) expressed unqualified support for the move.


 * One user said the word "common" should be removed from the proposed title but otherwise agreed with the move. He objected to the proposed name on the basis of unwieldiness but in reality the number of words in the current title and the proposed title are the same and the proposed title is only six characters longer than the existing one.


 * One opposed. (he voted twice).

How much consensus do I really need for a simple page move?

Alternatively if we're meant to keep working toward agreement, surely the thing to do is not close the discussion prematurely. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 14:16, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Was any of this not rhetorical? Is there anything you expect me to reply to? - UtherSRG (talk) 23:31, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Half-complete move
I notice you moved University of Trinity College but not University of St. Michael's College or Victoria University, Toronto. So where do we go from here? It seems to me that the talk page of one college was not the place to make this decision, but I'm reluctant to go over to the USMC article, unilaterally move it, and tell anyone watching it who objects "Oh, we've already established a consensus over at some other page." But of course it's either that or revert the Trinity move (since we can't pick and choose which federative universities we'll recognize as such and which not). Not being sure of the protocol, I'd consult with you as to which you prefer. Carolynparrishfan (talk) 23:11, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The RM was indeed only for the one article. I was unaware that other articles should have been moved. In fact, if such was desired, then an RM-multiple should have been used, and all of the moves could have been discussed at the same time. If you can list for me all of the appropriate articles, I'll create the RM-multiple myself. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Masonic Child ID programs move
Unfortunately, this is not uncontroversial, and I'm very concerned that an IP was allowed to make the request as his or her second edit without notification of anybody else, especially when it was moved over a redirect that was there for a reason. The program goes under several different names at present (most of which use "CHIP"), so the parenthetical "CHIP" is not to dab, but to clarify to the reader what it is precisely so that the article isn't moved all over the place. I would ask that the move be undone. MSJapan (talk) 04:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are there other Masonic Child Identification programs? If not, then the article doesn't need (CHIP) in the title. If there are, then it was a dab and it was needed. Your logic is backwards. I stand by the move. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Meaning what? Your question is unclear.  Every state runs its own, and may or may not use the same title as another.  I suppose I need to go contest this move now? MSJapan (talk) 04:30, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Is the current title of the article ambiguous? If not, then the move was correct. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:31, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't read the article history to see any of the title discussion that got us to where we were at. Regardless of what you may think, this was plainly and simply not an uncontroversial move. To answer your question (which was answered in the article history), yes it is ambiguous, because most people do not know it as "Masonic Child Identification Programs", but CACHIP, MYCHIP, MOCHIP, and so forth, depending on where they are. MSJapan (talk) 04:41, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to argue. I disagree with you on the need for the dab in the title. Any amount of help you think it was creating is equally helped by the redirect. Moreso as the title now conforms to WP:MOS. To wit, it doesn't look like there should be other articles with a similar name. I won't reply again. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:45, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I've reverted the move and started a discussion at Talk:Masonic Child Identification Programs (CHIP). Uther is correct, but the move wasn't uncontroversial and a seven day discussion can't hurt. Jenks24 (talk) 05:44, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Good enough. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Salon
Hi, UtherSRG, and thank you for taking point on admin duties for the RM discussions at Talk:TMZ.com and Talk:Salon.com. I could see there was less than majority support to move TMZ.com; there seemed a great deal of support for moving Salon.com, however, so I was wondering if I might ask you to revisit that decision? Aside from the support on that page, it would make it consistent with Comics Bulletin, Comic Book Resources, Slate Magazine, The Huffington Post, Radar Online and other website-article titles. What do you think? With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 23:59, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think getting a concise policy worked out on the appropriate WikiProject(s) would be the best hting to do. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:32, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * With all due respect, and I hope you won't consider my responding to your point as being inappropriate or contentious, there's no style guide at WikiProject Websites.


 * However, as User:DeLarge himself ironically has pointed out, there is a de facto standard seen at Category:News websites, Category:Entertainment websites, and Category:American online magazines. At Category:American online magazines, in fact, Salon is one of only two (out of more than 50) with a .com suffix. Other disambigs terms are used.


 * Given that this standard exists, would you consider reconsidering? With respect, --Tenebrae (talk) 13:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Sure. Are there others besides TMZ.com and Salon.com that would need to be moved? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:55, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It's very gracious of you to be flexible and to have an open mind. Offhand, on those category pages, I'm seeing only two others out of all them: HawaiiReporter.com, where most of its ELs say "Hawaii Reporter" and Bloginity.com, which says "Blognity" throughout. Also, two defunct sites, Peekvid.com and GetBack.com, for which news articles and/or corporate titles list as just Peekvid and GetBack.


 * Out of a couple hundred on those category pages, those look like about it.


 * (It appears as if Examiner.com and Cracked.com use .com as part of the formal title in their logos I also saw something called HappyNews.com, though, judging from its orphaned article, I'm not even sure it passes notability.)


 * Again, thank you for allowing me to offer these points after-the-fact. I appreciate the consideration very much. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, all articles moved. Now get to it making the articles themselves better. :D - UtherSRG (talk) 16:20, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I hear that! And I will try and do so. Thank you again for helping provide much-needed consistency in those categories. With regards, Tenebrae (talk) 23:04, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I try.... :) - UtherSRG (talk) 23:52, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Rudolf "Rudi" Skacel/Skácel move
Hey Uther, sorry to come on here and complain but I think there was a clear consensus on the RM to move it Rudi Skacel. There were five editors who said that it should be moved to Rudi Skacel but only two said Rudi Skácel. I think the point about using WP:UE is valid which in my opinion is why it should have been moved. Adam4267 (talk) 11:06, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It is unclear if UE applies to people's names, especially if they don't use the non-diacritic name typically. There needs to be an RfC and consistency, not individual moves. If I were to move it, I would have moved it to Rudi Skácel. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok Uther, I think you are correct. This is something I'm going to bring up at WP:Football to see what the wider community thinks. Thanks for your help Adam4267 (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was going to make a similar request, but Adam beat me to it; I would say that UE gives examples of Tchaikovsky and Chiang Kai-shek as examples where we don't use the litteral or correct version of the person's but only the most common in English sources. In the case of Skacel we know he does use this version of his name in some contexts because it's the one he chooses for his Twitter account, but I'm happy to discuss it further in an RFC. Stuart.Jamieson (talk) 16:31, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for nudging us over the last hump on the Crucifixion RM
I think your well timed comment gave the last nudge that has brought consensus. See John Chrysostom's comments. It doesn't look as if anyone would object if you concluded it finally. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:00, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice. :) I've moved it to the destination indicated in the formal portion of the RM. I see there's some discussion on a slightly different name. If anyone gets up in arms, I can swiftly move it, or they can go through the full RM again. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:15, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Number (sports)
Um, I'm not seeing massive consensus either way on this one to be honest... GiantSnowman 22:21, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you think that it was the wrong move, or just don't like my assessment of it? - UtherSRG (talk) 22:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Personally I feel that more time should have been given to explore the alternative proposals - a number were suggested but none received major support. GiantSnowman 23:04, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you able to reconsider? GiantSnowman 12:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I see no need to. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:19, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus for the move you made - there was certainly consensus for a move, but the new location was not yet decided. GiantSnowman 12:39, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations, you broke the wiki
endash redirected to Ndash. When you moved Ndash to Spaced ndash instead of double redirecting, it just threw the contents of the Ndash page into wherever it was put. Which was fun, because lots of folks use endash still. Took me a while to figure out what had happened. I'm looking for a suitable barnstar - maybe I'll just send you that evil wikikitten :) :) :) Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:12, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take it! :D - UtherSRG (talk) 03:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)



Nico Hülkenberg
Hi, I am surprised at your revert of the RM close. I understand that this was a controversial close but the way to contest it was, IMHO, at WP:DRV not by another admin reverting it. I am inclined to undo your revert and take it to WP:DRV but have no wish to wheel war. Perhaps you would like to do this or at least register a 'no objection' to my taking this action? TerriersFan (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Likewise I do not wish to get into a wheel war, but I think you should revert your move or at least register a 'no objection'to TerriersFan reverting the move. -- PBS (talk) 23:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I can not register as such, for I object. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * At both Wikipedia talk:Requested moves and talk:Nico Hülkenberg Vegaswikian based the close and the move on policy and guidance, what is your reason for reverting the move? -- PBS (talk) 23:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe I said so some where. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Where? Or if you are not sure, please repeat them at the bottom of the section Wikipedia talk:Requested moves. -- PBS (talk) 23:39, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * When I did my revert. Truly, this needs an RfC on the order much larger than just this article. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:41, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I did not ask when I asked where. Your comment in the edit history for the move was "therSRG moved page Nico Hulkenberg to Nico Hülkenberg over redirect)". There was no explanation there. -- PBS (talk) 23:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It's on the article's talk page. - UtherSRG (talk) 23:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for showing me where you had written "but as was pointed out, 'Huelkenberg' would be the correct way to spell the name without the umlaut", which is making the assumption that there is a correct way to spell the name over an above the ousage in reliable English language sources. There is no reason why English language sources have to follow German spelling rules. What you have done here is apply your own rule set to an article title and not followed the Article Title policy and its guidelines, which as far as spelling is concerned follow the Verifiability policy. For this reason I think you should revert your move as your have used your position as an administrator to make a move which is based on a personal opinion rather than following Wikipedia policy. -- PBS (talk) 07:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The decision to revert Vegaswikian's closure was in line with WP:BLP; the disputed spelling should not be restored until it has been demonstrated to comply with our policies. Several users have explained why "Nico Hulkenberg" is against policy, and no one has replied to those concerns or otherwise explained why this spelling would be acceptable in our project. Regarding the spelling of German names in English, you should take a look at some reference works and style manuals instead of Google News (WP:NOT). Prolog (talk) 11:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The whole point of using reliable English language sources as specified in the Article naming policy is so that the article title reflects best usage in reliable English language sources. The Article title policy covers article titles, what policy are you referring to when you say "'Nico Hulkenberg' is against policy"? -- PBS (talk) 21:14, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:AT, among others. "Nico Hulkenberg", like "Soren Kierkegaard", is without a doubt the common spelling on Google News, but our policies call for encyclopedic and ethical considerations (WP:NOT, WP:BLP) and for the use of local spellings for non-anglicized names (WP:UE). Thus, policy on article titles is in line with proper English, as it should be. This discussion should continue at WT:RM, however. Prolog (talk) 21:56, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I am sorry I had not noticed that you had interjected in a conversation between myself and UtherSRG. I am not sure why you posted here as this is a thread about administrative actions, and I think UtherSRG should reconsider a move made which did not follow the article title policy. -- PBS (talk) 22:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * We're both involved admins regarding the diacritics debate, so I don't see why I should have refrained from disagreeing with your position. Prolog (talk) 22:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Your words "This discussion should continue at WT:RM, however." So why not voice you disagreement in your preferred forum? My questions here were for UtherSRG and consideration of an inappropriate administrative action. -- PBS (talk) 08:29, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Uther, I respectfully request that you revert your action. Vegaswikian asked for input on WT:RM from other admins (I was one) before making his close, which means that, in effect, you were reverting multiple administrators. Were I to disagree with one of your administrative actions, I would not reverse it without first discussing it with you and trying to determine if there was consensus to overturn your action. Regardless of our respective opinions on the issue of diacritics, I ask you to reverse your action until such time as consensus confirms Vegaswikian's decision to be in error. Yours, Aervanath (talk) 08:43, 3 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So, are you suggesting that I should treat admins and non-admins as different classes of people and use different rules for the two classes? We're all just Wikipedians. If a Wikipedian does something that is incorrect, and I see it, I fix it. I don't care if it is an IP, and newbie editor, an admin, or Jimmy Wales himself. The move was wrong. I reverted it, and left info in a relevant spot. I've moved on. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So does that mean that if I think your revert of the move was wrong (for administrative reasons) you will not consider that a revert by me to be a revert of an admin move by you? -- PBS (talk) 16:06, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Orangutan
If you have a moment, could you help me deal with an edit by Maunus, who just restored an old "Etymology" section to the Orangutan article? I just promoted it to GA, and this section is extremely subpar, lacks references, and needs improved references. If it's going to stay, we'll also have to remove the etymology further down in the article. Unfortunately, I'm about to head out the door, and after nearly pulling my hair out over this review, I don't think I can take any more anyway. Do you mind stepping in? <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; font-family: fantasy, cursive, Serif">– Maky  « talk » 21:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, I rather like the etymology bit. Why do we have to remove it vice GA? - UtherSRG (talk) 01:24, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't have to be removed, but it needs good references. I'm just irritated that after all the hell we went through to reference everything, someone slapped that bit back in without doing any work to reference it better... and all in less than a few hours of it being promoted to GA.  I'll noted it on the talk page.  But at this point I'm burnt out on the article. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; font-family: fantasy, cursive, Serif">–  Maky  « talk » 02:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

2012 insurgency in northern Mali
Excuse me, as I saw you are a moving administrator, can I ask you to move/rename the article 2012 insurgency in northern Mali to Tuareg rebellion (2012)? I know you have a back log of moving to do but hoped you can do this one. :) A discussion on the issue was started 10 days ago (thus going over the minimum of a week) and a support consensus for the move has been expressed by 14 editors based on WP:Verifiability and WP:COMMONNAME. Only 1-2 editors have expressed an opposition to the move. EkoGraf (talk) 14:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the closing. Also, about your point that not every argument should be replied...I usually don't reply to every argument, however, user Lihaas was constantly attacking my reason behind the request, indicating I was going against Wikipedia policy and also made a few comments that violated WP:Civility, among them telling me I ramble, and was borderline accusing me of POV pushing. So, you would understand that I felt the need to defend myself. In any case, the discussion has been closed and thank you once again. Cheers! :) EkoGraf (talk) 16:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

History of transport in China
This is regarding your recent move of this article. In moving the article, you left the remarks "This is consistent with other recent PRC -> China moves." I counted 4 opposes and 3 supports (including the nominator) in the discussion. While move requests are not a vote, and consensus can override numbers in the form of policy considerations, both the supports and opposes came up with substantive arguments, and no policy was implicated in the discussion. Rather, the disagreement was over the potential scope of the article and how to organize future articles. This being the case, I really don't see how "This is consistent with other recent PRC -> China moves" and how there was an indication of consensus (instead of "no consensus") to move the article. The China move was about common name; this discussion was never about common name, and the rationale given in the China move was never given there.

Can you elaborate? I see an argument for moving, but it's not there, so your decision to move it with the explanation you give leaves me scratching my head. My opinion on closing move discussions is that in general, when consensus is not readily apparent, it is best to leave at least a short explanation as to why there is consensus, as was done at Talk:Kinmen.--Jiang (talk) 06:52, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Template talk:Convert/to about/AonSoff
I would recommend that you don't protect a talk page like that simply because the non-talk page is protected. I meant to do a null edit on the non-talk page, Template:Convert/to about/AonSoff. Thanks. LikeLakers2 (talk &#124; Sign my guestbook!) 18:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Improper move by admin
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The discussion is at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary
Wishing UtherSRG a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Let's talk <sub style="color:#008000;">about my edits? 23:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

help for ujjwal patni article
Dear Contributor

Greetings

This is in refernce to ujjwal patni article. As i see the history, you supported this article and saved it from deletion. Now i have started working on this first article of mine.

I can see a edit war on the page between two contributors however. The article is now very much altered by excessive editings of contributor Rhode Island red where as a relatively new contributor Anay jain is defending ujjwal patni.

I find ujjwal patni worthy and notable.pls guide me how to work on that.

Asia karma (talk) 09:50, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)
Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page. In this issue: Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->
 * Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
 * Research: The most recent DR data
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 * Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
 * DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
 * Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
 * Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:36, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:ToLCleanup
Template:ToLCleanup has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:14, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC this Saturday Dec 1
You are invited to Wikipedia Goes to the Movies in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and workshops focused on film and the performing arts that will be held on Saturday, December 1, 2012, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

All are welcome, sign up on the wiki and at meetup.com!--Pharos (talk) 08:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features)
Hi, I noticed some time ago you were interested to work with Notability (buildings, structures, and landmarks). I'd like you to suggest improvements of the new guideline, Notability (geographic features). It has a section about buildings and structures. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:31, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Day Celebration and Mini-Conference in NYC Saturday Feb 23
You are invited to celebrate Wikipedia Day and the 12th anniversary (!) of the founding of the site at Wikipedia Day NYC on Saturday February 23, 2013 at New York University; sign up for Wikipedia Day NYC here, or at bit.ly/wikidaynyu. Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues!

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience!--Pharos (talk) 03:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Yves Rumpler for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Yves Rumpler is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Yves Rumpler until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -- Patchy1   07:16, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

In response to the deletion of the wiki page "The Samuel Jackson Five"
Hi UtherSRG,

You removed the wiki article for The Samuel Jackson Five on 11 May 2010 with the deletion log saying (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject) I would just like to say that The Samuel Jackson Five isn't a person, they're a Norwegian instrumental post-rock band.

Could you please nudge me in the right direction towards creating a new article for this band. I hope to hear from you soon.

All the best,

SkyGolden (talk) 21:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, and look at the rest of the deletion history. CSD A7 refers to more than just individual people... the note that's left depends on the tool one uses in the deletion process. Sorry for the confusion. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:38, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Global Gateway Logistics City
Dbalaga (talk) 06:46, 7 March 2013 (UTC) Please Undo Deletion of "Global Gateway Logistics City"

These are the sources

http://gglc.ph/index/gglc_about.php

http://gglc.ph/index/gglc_whyfaqs.php


 * Negative. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:17, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14
Hi UtherSRG! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks!

Delivered on behalf of User:Pharos, 17:41, 10 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:27, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

please forgive my newbie-ness
I've just started working for a non-profit that needs some updates to its page. I got some info from +gwickwire in the help group (#wikipedia-en-help) about that it's better not to have the (understandably biased) founder of the non-profit make the changes, but rather to propose (?) them on the talk page for the organization.

+gwickwire gave me this link: http://enwp.org/Talk:Donor_sibling_registry When I went there, I got the message that you deleted this talk page (several years ago): 13:02, 25 October 2006 UtherSRG (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Donor sibling registry ( > 5 days)

The instructions say to be in touch with you before re-establishing the page... So that's what I'm trying to do. Again, my apologies for not having any clue what I'm talking about. I've never done any wiki editing or administrating. I'm hopeful that you can let me know what my next step is. I'd love to be able to let my boss know what she can do when she finds an error on the page about her org, or wants to do things like update numbers of people served, etc.

Any advice/info you have is appreciated. (And per your request for profile feedback-- it's great! I'm also a closeted book store re-shelver...  ;)

Thanks, Alexis Tabasco cat (talk) 19:46, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * As I'm sure you've seen by now, the page has long been recreated. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:30, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * And as for your newbieness, we've all been there. No need to apologize. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 19:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks so much!! Tabasco cat (talk) 22:00, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No prob. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22

 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Request to take part in a survey
Hi there. I would very much appreciate it if you could spend ~2 minutes and take a short survey - a project trying to understand why the most active Wikipedia contributors (such as yourself) may reduce their activity, or retire. I sent you an email with details, if you did not get it please send me a wikiemail, so that I can send you an email with the survey questions. I would very much appreciate your cooperation, as you are among the most active Wikipedia editors who show a pattern of reduced activity, and thus your response would be extremely valuable. Thanks! --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 11:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Now... would you like to take part in the survey? I can also post the questions here if you prefer not use email (just please ping me on my talk page if you reply as I may not monitor your talk page too closely...). --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 14:43, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hrm... I can't seem to find it. Could you email it again? - UtherSRG (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Primate articles
Two years ago, you told me to give you a heads-up if I ever created another primate article. I don't know if you still want me to do that but here is the article I created today: Theropithecus darti. I will likely be creating more soon now that I am finished with university and have so much more free time. Elspooky (talk) 15:45, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 17:27, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here is another one, just for you: Theropithecus oswaldi Elspooky (talk) 18:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup... and I've already edited them both. :) - UtherSRG (talk) 19:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's my latest one: Griphopithecus africanus Elspooky (talk) 14:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Nice. :) Note the changes I've made to all three of these articles. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:42, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm still learning how to make these articles. Is this one better? Griphopithecus alpani Elspooky (talk) 14:55, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, but also add the tag on the talk page. That way it'll be included in some automatic tracking by the WikiProject. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I have now done that for this one as well: Griphopithecus darwini Elspooky (talk) 16:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome! Keep cranking them out! :) - UtherSRG (talk) 16:11, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Another one:Pongo hooijeri :) Elspooky (talk) 17:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Yup. Watch your values... you used "Caudata" instead of "Chordata". - UtherSRG (talk) 17:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Damn those Salamanders having a homophonic name! Elspooky (talk) 17:53, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Here's my first for today:Khoratpithecus piriyai, Khoratpithecus ayeyarwadyensis and Khoratpithecus chiangmuanensis. Just a quick question, in the fossil range entry in the taxobox should I put Miocene or Late Miocene, etc.?
 * I think Miocene is fine enough. - UtherSRG (talk) 15:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. Lufengpithecus lufengensis Elspooky (talk) 20:17, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Lufengpithecus hudienensis and Lufengpithecus keiyuanensis Elspooky (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Got 'em! - UtherSRG (talk) 16:14, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Ouranopithecus macedoniensis and Ouranopithecus turkae Elspooky (talk) 17:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup... I saw turkae before you. ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 17:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that did confuse me :P Elspooky (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Sivapithecus indicus Elspooky (talk) 21:51, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * You'll have trouble there. Leave it be until you can make a decently sized article. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:05, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In all honesty, I'm probably going to take a break from making new primate articles for a while (and you'll probably be relieved that your talk page isn't going to be taken over by me) Elspooky (talk) 22:16, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Heh. No prob. :) Enjoy your break! - UtherSRG (talk) 22:21, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: koala
This is a note to let the main editors of koala know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on August 16, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director or one of his delegates (,, and ), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Today's featured article/August 16, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

The koala is an arboreal herbivorous marsupial native to Australia, and is recognised worldwide as an iconic symbol of the country because of its distinctive appearance. It is the only extant representative of the family Phascolarctidae and its closest living relatives are the wombats. It is easily recognisable by its stout, tailless body, round, fluffy ears and large, spoon-shaped nose. It is popularly known as the koala bear because of its bear-like appearance. The koala has a body length of 60 – and weighs 4 –. Pelage colour ranges from silver grey to chocolate brown. Koalas typically inhabit open Eucalyptus woodlands, and the leaves of these trees make up most of their diet. Because this eucalypt diet provides them with only low nutrition and energy, koalas are largely sedentary and sleep for up to 20 hours a day. They are asocial animals, and bonding only exists between mothers and dependent offspring. They have few natural predators and parasites but are threatened by various pathogens, as well as by bushfires and droughts. The biggest threat to their existence is habitat destruction due to agriculture and urbanisation. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)


 * It's been a while, man... :) - UtherSRG (talk) 01:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Welcome!

 * Heya.... Yeah, I'm here and gone and here again.... ;) - UtherSRG (talk) 15:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Weapons of the Vietnam War
I am not sure where to post, so posting here. There is much misinformation and lack of proper information on the page Weapons of the Vietnam War. One example specifically is Weapons. The Swedish K sub machine gun was not only used by Navy SEALs but also Special Forces (Green Berets). ARVN were not armed with the Swedish K but M-l carbines. The entire article is full of errors and lacking information. I have not the time to edit and cite the page. I hope you are able to find a reliable source to clean up the page.

Please know I appreciate all the work everyone does for en.wikipedia.org. I use search Wikipedia frequently having found the vast majority of articles well written and accurate.

Sonokol33t Daughter of deceased Vietnam Veteran (US Army Special Forces, Major, A-team Leader, SOG-MAC-V, SOG, SES-CIA Phoenix Program) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonokol33t (talk • contribs) 12:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * You should engage the various authors of the Weapons of the Vietnam War page by either putting this information on the appropriate talk page, or by posting on their talk pages (like you did here). You can find the list of the most recent authors by looking at the history of the page. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Reelworld A7
Hola UtherSRG

I see you deleted the Reelworld account under an A7, but we have several wiki pages referring to us and had claim to notability on the page. If we re-supply content that demonstrates a claim to notability, will you reinstate our page?

70.89.131.82 (talk) 17:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * First, please create an account. It's simple and easy.
 * Second, you should not write about yourself or your own company. Read our conflict of interest policy.
 * However, it does seem like there may be notability now. Use the Article wizard to create a temporary new article. If you want, I can populate it with the last good version of the Reelworld article, after you create the temporary article.
 * Peace. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:58, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of Ladell Parks
Back in 2011 you deleted a page called Ladell Parks due to him not being real, well he has now created some buzz around the internet He has started an YouTube page which has now have over 1 million views for his music he got to be on MTV.com and he is now an actor who has featured in movies as 17 again, 10 things I hate about you and he's in the new upcoming movie "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" Now is there anyway you can undelete him so I can create a sandbox or user page before making an official article on him so it doesn't get a speedy deletion. LP Industries (talk) 05:50, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * No, I will not undelete the page. That is not necessary.
 * Read what is at the deleted page Ladell Parks. You will see first that I'm not the first nor last person to delete the page.
 * Below the list of deletions, are some suggestions on what you can do. The first suggestion is what you want. I suggest either the second link on that line to create the article via our Article Wizard. It will guide you through some of the process of creating the article.
 * If that's too cumbersome, use the third link on that line to request the article be created.
 * However, none of this guarantees that the article will not be deleted again. You should read our notability policies, so that you better understand why and what kind of documentation is required. Also, since your user name relates to the topic at hand, you should also read our neutral point of view policies.
 * Thanks for your interest. I hope you succeed. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:45, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikispecies
Dear Uther, due to all your work and energy invested in Wikispecies, Benedikt suggested you should be contacted, since you may loose your admin rights. Even if you can not spend so much time there anymore, I think the members would appreciate that you remain in some way, and I think its enough that you just make a couple of edits? Please see the discussion at Wikispecies:Village_Pump. Hope to see you there, :) Dan Koehl (talk) 10:10, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - UtherSRG (talk) 14:36, 19 April 2014 (UTC)