User talk:VKokielov

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Freedom Tower pictures
I noticed on Freedom Tower talk page you said you wanted to photograph the tower in construction. No one seemed to have responded to you but it sure seemed like a good idea to me. I would definetely appreciate you photographing the tower construction. Maybe even photograph the progress once a year. :) Be good for historical purposes. - Tutmosis  00:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Živio Žid
Živio moj dragi Žid 100 godina...sve najbolje

Keep in touch Jagoda 1 06:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Dangling hyperlinks
Please assist the AFD discussion by providing the sources that you were working from when you created the redlink to this article in the first place. Uncle G 12:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Croatian War of Independence
As far as I see, the Algerian War of Independence was a fight between the Algerian rebels and separatists on one side and France on the other. The American War of Independence was a (partially) international conflict between independist Americans and their sympathizers (Holland, Spain, France) and the British and their unionist sympathizers. In the Angolan War of Independence was a conflict between Angolan separatists and Portugal, although it continued as an international-sponsored civil war. The Bangladesh Liberation War is about Bangladesh's armed seccession from Pakistan with the hel of India. The Chilean Independence is Chile's war for independence from Spain. The Greek War of Independence is just like the Serbian War of Independence - to secede from the Ottoman Empire. The same thing's with the Romanian War of Independence. The Eritrean War of Independence was the struggle of Eritrea to secede from Ethiopia. In the Irish War of Independence the Irish fought to secede from Great Britain. The Estonian Liberation War is a failed war, so then the comparation on how the "Serbian Krajina War of Independence/Liberation" cannot be used because it failed falls down. In the Mexican War of Independence Mexico was fighting for its independence from Spain. The Scottish Wars of Independence is a collection of wars that Scottish dissidents & separatists led against the English. The South American Wars of Independence are indeed wars in which various countries fought for independence from either Spain or Portugal. The Turkish War of Independence is most definately a little silly name (and indeed the article has a POV tag on it); since it would have been more definately a revultion, rather.


 * All those that you mentioned are a lot different - in each & every single of those wars, an entity was fighting to secede, martially win independence from a larger political entity; here, an entity was only at first fighting for independence; whereas the majority of it is refering to its own war against its own separatist entity. --PaxEquilibrium 11:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

P. S. - the Arab-Israeli conflict has had a little different nature - and indeed it bears a different name. So should the Croatian War of independence bear another name. --PaxEquilibrium 11:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Answer
The current version is acceptable, but pray tell me, how was I defacing art? If I was defacing anything, it was a politically charged propaganda piece... --estavisti 14:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but then I'd have people complaining my horrendous "pro-Serb POV" etc etc. We all have to come to terms with the reality of Wikipedia, unfortunately. --estavisti 17:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey Millburn!
Apparently, we are supposed to have some bad blood between us lol...(Livingston-Millburn rivalry). Anyway, how do you like NYU? I'm planning to apply there regular decision. And yeah...I saw that Iceland thing and I was like wth? So, then I changed it lol. Nish kid 64  21:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm pretty sure I can get in there regular decision (I think), which is why I'm applying higher up for early. Nish kid  64  00:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

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Excuse me. Which text on what medal? --Lambiam Talk 22:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Па ти си неки зајебант? Напис'о си да је град "звезда" књиге! Тако још више знучи да је град глумац :-) --estavisti 04:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: dobar si
Samo sam mu htio objasnit neke stvari, ali mislim da nisam bio uspjesan. Ne mislim da je on los, ali je nacionalisticki odgajan sto je cest slucaj za Hrvate i Srbe koji zive van svoje drzave. Ako pogledas problematicne clanke na Wikipediji, vidjet ces da oni koji forsiraju nacionalni POV uglavnom zive izvan svoje drzave.

To me nekad posebno ljuti jer se zbog nacionalizma losije zivi i u Hrvatskoj i u Srbiji, a Hrvati i Srbi koji zive u Americi, Australiji, Njemackoj ili Velikoj Britaniji nemaju nikakvih problema.

Jakiša Tomić 17:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: ??
To je Korisnicka stranica u uporabi Jskova.miljaka, a ne Vas. To sto ste ucinili nije mala prepravka (vec masivnija promjena). --PaxEquilibrium 11:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Begging plea
Could you please stop for once. As per Wikipedia's policy, you should comment the content, and not users. I advise you to go to a discussion board (forum - like stormfront) if that's all you are interested in. Those edits of yours have been nothing but repeated propaganda (Jakisa's talk page and numerous other, where you patronized yourself in the role of a "higher force" speaking to an "inferior" one that simply does not understand) and your expressions of POV (aside from mostly hanging out in circles of users who have a reputation of trolling and/or POV-pushing) altogether with other weird edits of yours (like on Jakov's user page, which altogether you in anger, totally against WP:Civil, justify like someone just threw a nuke at you [when it was just introducing in Wikipedia's policy], respond to) have been completely unconstructive to this Project.

I know I myself have strolled away from WP:Civil on this one perhaps a little... but this hostile attitude of yours is getting tiresome, just like David Brandt or Willy on Wheels. With heart (and hope you understand), --PaxEquilibrium 00:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm referring to your constant personal attacks; like this one accusing me of schizophrenia?!? I'm sorry if it's so blind to you, but I am Vukovar or Dubrovnik and you're Serbia or Montenegro (or Yugoslavia); I am the Jew, you're Germany; I'm Finland, you're the Soviet Union; I'm the Albanian, and you're Serbia; I'm the Serb.. you're Croatia... do you understand? Does that tell you anything at all?

It's rather weird that you bring the admin-nominations from my "past wiki-life" to call it. To quote a user: "Serbs and Croats voted against him; Serbs and Croats voted for him...", and not in the nationalistic connotation you present it (by the way - whenever I come across you I notice that you're always referring to nationalism - insisting to now my "ethnicity", then comparing nations constantly (regardless of "good" or "bad" connoting, like with Mir Harven, comparing Croats with others, or always generalizing "they" this, "they" that [e. g. "serbs never learned.. blah, blah]); is that really important?

I mean, it is shocking to me that you don't see your own actions highly offensive and nationalistic... and more shocking is that you use "defender's assault" on this one, rather than simply explaining calling people "names" and telling them that they speak in emptiness... Some people would simply tell you grow up... --PaxEquilibrium 00:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh and "persiranje" as it's called in "Serbo-Croat" - is not a mental illness, but plainly good manners. Please, I've already explained you this several times before... don't make me repeat myself... --PaxEquilibrium 00:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * And of all the people with whom I have problems on wiki there is one - you; all the other people with whom I couldn't find a common language are indef blocked. Does that tell you anything? --PaxEquilibrium 00:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * There you go again with a defender's offensive!


 * I refer to anyone I do not know as "vi". That also stands as the plural form, when I am referring to more than one thing. On the other hand, the "ti" form I use for people that I pretty much know (Dijxtra, Duja, PANONIAN and to an extent estavisti and Jagoda), or when I attempt to cheer up people in despair (I think that the last one I used once, but I can't really remember). "Thou" is just a little joke that I used to use often and still do now & then (but I can't really remember any modern reference to this one). Now how on earth do you find this "schisophrenic"? And please, take an espresso or two and calm down... you obviously have deep (negative) feelings towards me and that has to be anulled. --PaxEquilibrium 00:48, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

'': Pardon -- "I'm the Serb and you're Croatia". Wonderful slip-in. congratulations. --VKokielov 00:46, 18 November 2006 (UTC)'' What does this mean?

Fine with me; in the first place we conflicted over the simple fact that you couldn't speak Serbo-Croat very well and I was still an idiot who couldn't understand a simplified version of his/her own native language. :) --PaxEquilibrium 00:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, that's not a solution. We'd be acting like immature children. :) The reason why alerted you had nothing to do with the Balkan topics, it had solely to do with the fact that you keep insulting me; either at my talk page or other peoples' by either propagating against me or directly calling me schizophrenic; or trying to impose a feeling of inferiority, diving me (using words) from the community and referring to me like I am a puppet. Do you understand? I'm trying to ask you to spot offending me. That's all I ask. And only that "deal" (no more personal attacking/lobbing from you) is what I ask for. --PaxEquilibrium 01:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Kada sam dosao na net (prvih par mjeseci), bio sam nezrela budala. To svi znaju; to ja znam; tu nema tajne, niti je potrebna ikakva prica/diskusija. Samo, moram opet povuci:
 * Don't say foolish things. I don't know the difference between Croats and Serbs. I know only where you cast your lots, and how your own side reacts to you. You can't help it. I still don't know why. Even in what you just wrote -- "I am Serbia and you're Croatia". --VKokielov 00:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Ovo opet vidim kao uvredu, i ono sto me cudi je sto se opet vracas na nacionalizam. :) Nijesi mi odgovorio na to pitanje uopce... --PaxEquilibrium 01:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * A sto se tice persiranja - opet ponavljam, ja sa "ti" zovem poznanika i sl. Evo, sada sam u konfuziji da li da Vama/tebi persiram ili ne. :) --PaxEquilibrium 01:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Ta ne predstavljam ja sebe kao zrtvu u cilju WP:POINT-a! Ti (ajde, neka bude) si me nazvao Sizofrenicarom na mojoj stranici, bukvalno pljuvao o meni kod Jakise Tomica, Thewanderera, i brojnih drugih, pa i napadao one koji su bili do mene (pa i blokiran zbog toga).

Quote: to je ono najgore u tebi sto svi mi tko ne slazemo se s tobom volimo najmanje. Eto to je bas ono o egoizmu sto sam pominjao malo gore. --PaxEquilibrium 01:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Neutralnost?
Ne znam zasto to spominjes. Ja nijesam neutralan - niti tvrdim da to jesam (zar je itko?). Ja vodim svadje samo s tobom. (i jednim trolom koji je sada indef blokiran) :). Za nevinost ne vidim nista... Ja sam vec podvukao da mozda imam pro-srpski pogled na povijest koju pisem (o tome smo moji suradnici i ja diskutirali), jer imam pristum brojnim arhivama i bibliotekama u Beogradu (sto jest glavni grad Srbije).


 * Sad bih te htio pitati nesto sa strane u vezi ovog - prikazao si kao da je "sh" nesto vrlo lose (kada pominjes Dijxtru). A onda se sjecam kako si mi obrusio kada sam pomenuo Srb-Croatia poredbu (ali ne i druge poredbe)... Zar nije to POV (i to mnogo gori od tih akoje me ti optuzujes).

Ne razumijem tvoju poredbu s Izraelom (i to bi bilo pogresno generaliziranje), mada mi se ne svidja to sto opet ides stopama nacionalizma. --PaxEquilibrium 01:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Zdravo
Zdravo. Samo da ti kažem, nemoj da se zbavljaš s PaxEquilibrium-om. Vala si jedan glup što se zbavljaš sa ovima Crnogorcima na Vikipediju. Ovo je sada rat protiv tebe! Ako ćeš da provociraš Crnogorci, e vala ćemo i mi tebe. Ajde sada viđi što će se desit poslijedni put. Crna Gora 02:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Gligan
I know that the Serbs do not want Macedonia now, but they do not want it in Bulgaria too. I have written several times that Macedonia would be an economic burden to Bulgaria, but nonetheless most of the Bulgarians want it back, because of the spiritual value of Ohrid, Skopie, Doiran and the numerous monasteries ans churches from the Medieval Bulgarian Empire.

The Serbs wanted Macedonia in the past, because they feared (rightfully) that Bulgaria would become too strong; it is strong without Macedonia, the Westrn lands, Eastern and Westrn Thrace; if they were ours... --Gligan 09:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Pa jednostavno nemoj misliti na nacionalizam kao na fasizam. :) Kada sam spomenuo to, nisam nista lose mislio, vec sam se zacudio zasto cesto govoris po nacionalnim linijama. Bas cesto preferiras to, a i, primjerice, uopce nije lijepo inzistirati na necijoj etnicnosti (a ti ako nijesi primjetio, to trazis uvijek kada nekoga upoznajes - kao mene). Ne mislim na ono sto ti mislis, vec na cinjenicu da to vrijedja ljude oko tebe.. a i plasi (barem mene). --PaxEquilibrium 14:04, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

"Crnogorac?!" Evo opet onog inzistiranja. :S Pa zasto je to toliko vazno? Imam osjecaj da si ti rekao meni da si samo djelom Jevrejin jer si mislio da sam anti-semita. E pa nijesam. A i imam osjecaj da si mi rekao da si djelom Rus/Poljak jer si mislio da nekako vise volim Slavene od drugijeh. Ali meni je iskreno, svejedno.


 * No, ne zelim da se ovaj nas razgovor vrti u kovitlacu besmislice ;), pa samo cu jos ponoviti da trazim da me ne vrijedjas (primjerice, opet si to ucinio na CrnaGora-inoj stranici... i ne samo mene, vec i njega - sto me podsjeca na ono kada si zbog slicne situacije bio blokiran, pa se onda tuzakao Miru :)). --PaxEquilibrium 14:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Pa iritantnto je isto bilo vidjeti "nas stari HRE", ili "mozda ce nauciti" na drugim stranicama, ili "ti si sizofrenicar" na mojoj, ili napadati ljude koji me (bar malo) cijene kao sto je CrnaGora ili ono kada si bio blokiran zbog licne uvrede... --PaxEquilibrium 16:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Izrael
Dobra je Izrael zemlja, samo gubi svoju visinu i prestiz zbog gresaka koje prave i ostali smrtnici. Npr, koliko se sjecam, sluzenje vojnog roka u Izraelu je vrlo strogo, a cak i zene moraju da prodju kroz to. Sto mislis zasto su zene manje (otprilike) ubojice i politicki demagozi od muskaraca? :) Dalje, nacionalizam je velika opasnost Izraelu. Zrtve, putem nacionalizma, cesto postanu sve ono protiv cega su se borili (uzmi za primjer Srbe, Hrvate, Albance, muslimanske Bosnjake, Francuze, pa i Amerikance). Na primjer, Premijer izraela tvrdi da ce se boriti protiv svake pretnje njegovom narodu - zapocinjuci i rat oko nekoliko otetih ljudi. Sa strane cinjenice da je takva stvar i opravdana, to vec zazilazi u neki oblik fobije. Kao Amerika sa svojim invazijama nekih zemalja svijeta. Kao i ideja o unitaristickoj Bosni Bosnjaka, il' Hrvatski rat protiv Srba, il' Srbijin "kosovoski krstaski pohod". Postepeno, tim koracima se zaboravlja (u ovom slucaju Palestinci) da drugu stranu cine ziva humanoidna bica s dusom, priblizava se sopstvenom svrsishodnom ljublju svoga naroda, pa i ka tezi da je narod "visi, bolji, u pravu". (pa i kako ri kazes, naginje ka fasizmu) --PaxEquilibrium 13:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Pa, da bi razumio moras i sam proci kroz rat (a nadam se da nikada neces). Zrtve rata obicno prodju kroz dva i iskljucivo dva ekstremiteta. Jedan (a to i onaj cesci) je da se totalno prepuste osvetnickoj volji, i nacionalnoj mrznji prema takozvanome "neprijateljskom" narodu. To su ljudi koji danas na Kosovo vicu i placu kao jedna zena kod Peci "Ovde nema albanskih kostiju, ovde leze samo srpske kosti. Albanci su gosti u nasoj zemlji... i nisu vise dobrodozli", ili ona stara albanka iz sela kod Kosovske Mitrovice "Srbi su mi spalili kucu; i neka sto je prokleti narod proteran! Ako bilo koji od njih pokusa i da dodje, ili bilo koji od UN kolonista pokusa da ih vrati, ubit cu ih vilom!!!" ili jedan Albanac iz kafica u Prizrenu: "Sloveni vise nisu dobrodosli ovde! Ako i samo dodju, necu se smiriti dok ih ne oteram, pa makar ih ubio ili poginuo zaustavljajuci ih! Mogu samo da se stari vrate, koji nece imati vise dece - ali nikako mladima!". U drugu grupu spadaju oni kojima je kefalo malo proradilo, i koji su se stavili izvan primitivizama (tu spadam ja, pa i sve vise "zrtava" sirom svijeta) - no ti ljudi ne moraju bit operisan od svih "prljavih" rragova, i vrlocesto nijesu u potpunosti.


 * Tvoj otac je mudar covjek; i ono sto on govori je cista istina i fakat... ali zar nije sama cinjenica u biti zalosna? Razmisli vrlo dobro - tu se stvara jedan krug (a never-ending circle) koji je u stvari autenticni dokaz da smo mi stvoreni da mrzimo i da je to u stvar odgovor na ono cuveno pitanje smisla zivota. Kako sam ja odbjegao od rata - tako i ne smatram sebe njegovim dijelom. Pa tako i ne mogu odabirati stranu. Primjerice bosanski rat - bi li volio da su Hrvati u biti pobijedili? A sto da su Srbi pobjedili? A da su bosanski muslimani uspjeli u svojoj prvobitnoj zamisli. Naravno da ne. Ono sto je bitno je samo da se rat zavrsi. A da li mi se svidja danasnji rezultat? Pa naravno da ne. Jer u ovakvim ratovima nema pobjednika.


 * U Hrvatskoj, mi smo cesto odlazili iz mjesta u mjesto jer ih je stalno interesiralo ko smo i sta smo (zato sam se i toliko uvredio kada si toliko inzistirao o mojoj etnicnosti - jer imam osjecaj da ces ili izvadit pusku na me il' turit mi pusku u ruke!). Moj otac je bio pozvan u vladu Republike Srspke Krajine - ali on je to odbio, jer je ta kvazi-drzava predstavljala sve ono protiv cega se borio dok je bio u vlastima Hrvatske, do trenutka kada su mu dali otkaz iz vrlo interesantnog izricitog pismenog objasnjenja ..jer je velikosrbo-cetnickog opredjeljenja... Pa sto ce onda; da dokaze da su u pravu? Trebao si vidjeti kako su Jugoslavenski ratovi (ne iz krivog ugla) stvarno izgledali i uzivo, mozda bi bolje shvatio. Dulje, to nijesu bile borbe nacija, kao sto vecina zapada na to gleda. To su bile iskljucivo politicke borbe. 1991-1992 nije bila "srpska" jugoslavenska vojska koja se borila protivu Slovenaca o Hrvata? Ne. Primjerice, Hrvati su oni koji su se (uglavnom) borili protiv nezavisnosti Republike Slovenije 1991. godine. 91/92 bilo je cak Hrvata koji su napadali Dubrovnik. U Republici Srpskoj, cijeli dio vojske su cinili bosanski muslimani. A danas oni nisu smatrani izdajicama, vec su Bosnjaci k'o i svi drugi. Jedan od vrhunskih vojnih zapovjednika bosanskih Srba je bio Hrvat (drugi po komandi poslije Ratka Mladica), a dobio je znatno blazu kaznu za zlocine u Srebrenici (u kojima je on sudjelovao - pa i bio kljucna "faca"). Treba podvuci da se tek sada, poslije rata i kada su sva etnicka ciscenja izrvsena, granice povucenei nacije stvorene da se javljaju takve, "nacionalne" linije kakve su primjerice u Palestini. Danas nema Hrvata koji preferiraju Srpstvo ili Srba koji idu u Hrvatstvo, a posljednji Srbi muslimanske vjeroispovjesti prelaze na Islam (Lepa Brena, Emir Kusturica). Eto to je to vrijeme koje mi se neopisivo gadi, ali koje (mislim) da ti nerazumijes zasto je u stvari toliko odvratno.


 * Uzmi moj slucaj - ja svoga naroda i svoje zemlje nemam, pa kao i stotine tisuca drugijeh ex-Jugoslavena. Sve izbjeglice su protjerane iz svoje zemlje, pod tvrdnjom da "imaju svoju zemlju, a da su ovdje stranci", a u "svojim" zemljama (tu pogotovo se istice Srbija) su stranci. Da otvoreno kazam da sam Hrvat po nacionalnosti - iako sam protjeran pod oruzjem iz svoje nacionalne drzave, pod sumnjom da nijesam i zbog razlicite religije? Nisam lud. Da kazem da sam Srbin, pripadnik nacije u kojoj sam drugorazredni inozemnik, stranac i nesrbin? Ne pada mi na pamet. Da kazem da sam Jugoslaven, ime koje je vrlo omrzeno, pa na koje cak i ti (s ostatkom Zapada) nerado gledas? Ne. Koju god naciju odaberem, neko - gdje god bio, ali uvijek neko - ce me mrziti zbog toga sto odabrah; tako da je poprilicno svejedno. I opet, kako mogu da se solidarisem s onim protivu cega nastupam istovremeno (mislim na politicke odredbe). Pa hajde, ici cu tvojim rjecima :) - ti si Jevrejin, i Jevreji gdje god da su u svijetu (pa cak - ne, pogotovo sada kada imaju svoju drzavu) ce uvijek osjecati vrlo jaku pripadnost jednih drugima, i tako mislim da ti jednostavno to ne mozes razumijeti. Kod mene ("nas"), to je zaista neprimenjivo. --PaxEquilibrium 18:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Da
Sto jes, jes (nazalost). Ovdje (jos uvijek) traje rat na Kosovu (u neku ruku), i bojim se da ce se on zavrsiti tek kada ili Albanaca ili Srba ne bude bilo vise na Kosmetu. S obzirom da Albanaca ima neuporedive vise, bojim se da eventualni odlazak svih ne-Albanaca s Kosova predstavlja jedino rjesenje. Ne zelim ni da nagadjam o neodrzivoj situaciji u Bosni i Hercegovini.

Pa eto - stavi sebe na mjesto nekog Srbina iz Hrvatske, i iskreno mi reci koji bi ti stav bio. Onakva razmisljanja bi mogla dovesti samo do Hrvatofobije nenormalne razine... no reci, kakva bi bila tvoja razmisljanja? --PaxEquilibrium 22:46, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Ne, mislio sam na smisao zivota. Na to da je podijeljenost i borba (nacionalno solidarisanje) ono sto nas cini ljudima i ono za sto zivimo. Tako izgleda za sada... Naravno da su emocije ono sto nas cini homo sapiens sapiensima - ali zar su potreba za solidarisanje s nekom grupom (kao danas sto je etnicko porijeklo aktuelno) i takmicenje sa grupama kojima ne pripadamo (nacionalna, verska, i rasna netrpeljivost i mrznja) neophodni u zivotu? --PaxEquilibrium 23:41, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Da... no dobro.


 * Opametice se i Izraelci i Palestinci jednom... --PaxEquilibrium 16:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Pogresnu si poredbu upotrebio. Ajde reci ono isto, ali da je u pitanju Jevrejin i Arapin, a ne roditelj i tamo neki Arapin. I da li bi znacilo to sto (hipiteticki) Arapina u neku ruku poznajes, a ovog ne? --PaxEquilibrium 16:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Pa, to nas razlikuje od onih Jevreja i Arapa koji bi se odmah bez sumnji opredjelili za sunarodnika... ako zaista ne znas sto bi... --PaxEquilibrium 22:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Commonly
Huh? Last I checked, "common" and "usual" meant pretty much the same thing; i.e., in widespread use. Please explain to me the distinctions. What makes "commonly" vain and "usually" perfectly fine? Chrismith 05:48, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
I'll need it! :) Are you going to be in Belgrade, as well? --FlavrSavr 04:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Sto mislis o ovome? --PaxEquilibrium 20:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


 * svrati do irca West Brom 4ever 23:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * come to irc West Brom 4ever 23:59, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Chapman
Feel free, but for what it's worth, I see no reason to mention "conviction" in the first paragraph. If an encyclopedia can't say "Mark Chapman murdered John Lennon", it's not much of an encyclopedia. If some twit objects on the basis that "murder" has a legal definition (even though it's been established that the circumstances fit this definition), "killed" can be used. :) - Nunh-huh 17:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Slavic languages
Err... this is not my speciality. And what does it has to do with Ghirla? What comes to mind is the discussion at Talk:Slavophile - perhaps you could comment there?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 02:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Bulgars
- pa Bugari su manje Slaveni od vas, imajuci u sebe nesto vise turaka (u prvom nasledu, kad ih je bilo puno manje).


 * Actually, the Bulgarians didn't mix with the Turks - but are AFAIC of non-Slavic origin (Turkic). --PaxEquilibrium 11:18, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure, sure. I just wanted to inform you that the Bulgarians, Slavs, pride with their non-Slavic origin. And Turkic isn't the same as Turkish. --PaxEquilibrium 21:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Zasto...
..cesto mijenjas stranice raznih korisnika? Ne mislim samo na sitnice, vec na i one stvari koje spadaju pod vandalizam.??? --PaxEquilibrium 21:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Pa, bilo je mnogo slucaja osim mijenjanja Miljakovljeve stranice.

Npr. totalno si uklonio jedan cijeli (sa external linkom) section sa Bormalagurskijeve stranice. --PaxEquilibrium 14:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

On jeste malo nezgodan, i zna da se pomasa krajnje neumjesno (nekada i trolovski), ali cemu opet uklanjanje toga? Mislim da to uopce [nije/nije trebalo da bude] provokacija na prvom mjestu. Zamisli da netko ukloni ono tvoje "jew" sa korisnicke stranica sa osnovom da je to provokacija. :) --PaxEquilibrium 19:45, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Dugujem ti izvinjenje. Lose sam se ponasao prema tebi svo ovo vrijeme.

Moram da priznam da sam stekao dojam da si ti neki ultranacionalista (od tvojih najranijih postova, kao sto je ovaj), i da dijelis vrlo rasisticke stavove (a iskreno da kazem, i mnogi su mi rekli da jesi). Ali... ispostavilo se da ti uopste nijesi takav. :) --PaxEquilibrium 23:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Ransom Smiley Award
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--TomasBat (Talk) 13:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Ma da, da. To su samo primjeri (sjecam se i drugih slucajeva kada si mijenjao user-pages).

Pa kojih razloga?

Hm, pa vidis, tvrdnja da njegova krvna zrnca znace ista sa njegovim opredjeljenjima i slicne iredentisticke "nauke"... sve me to podsjeca na Nazi Eugenics. Razumijes li me sad sto sam tako reagirao?


 * P.S. Nema to nikakve veze. Bormalagurski je Hrvat. Vojislav Seselj je hrvatskog porekla. Frankie je Hrvat. A vrlo vjerovatno si cuo i (doduse jesu samo teorije) da je i sam Adolf Hitler sin jednog jevrejskog berberina. --PaxEquilibrium 14:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

And that praise is not for restraining Croat nationalists as they are, but for serving the interests of Croats by defending their good name without resorting to trickery and slander.


 * Pa, eto - mozda ti ne vidis zasto - ali ova recenica mi izgleda izuzetno odvratno (da ne kazem ogavno). Joy nikada ne bi trebalo da bude hvaljen tako/zbog toga, vec iskljucivo zbog njegove vrhunske neutralnosti. Joy je majstor, pa tu i nema mjesta za neke bizarne "ekstra pluseve", jer ne postoji ocjena veca od 5-ice (tj. 10). :) --PaxEquilibrium 18:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Rasizam
Ma zaboravi na to, to cak nema ni veze s Borisom. (koji je ponosan sto je Hrvat :) --PaxEquilibrium 19:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Mislim da niciji nacionalizam nije negativan. Nema problema kada neko voli svoj narod. Ta teza " Hrvatima" je pozivanje na povijesne sukoba izmedju jednog naroda dva imena - i jednostavno podvlacenje: SVI DA NAUCE I ZNADU: SRBI I HRVATI SE MRZE!!!. Problem je u ultranacionalistickom iredentizmu, nrp. Milos mozda ne bi trebao ukloniti "Zivela Srbija" i "Ziveli Srbi", ali svakako "Zivelo Srpstvo" i link koji ide uzanj ka Velikoj Srbiji, jer to je jedan takav primjer. Takav irredentist POV ne vidim na "Save Srpska" (koji vise izgleda na neki ocajnicki vapanj). --PaxEquilibrium 19:19, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Naravno da mozes shvatiti bar toliku apstrakciju, da se ne moze covjek optuziti za pristrasnost svojoj vlastitoj strani.


 * Pa na Wikipediji ne postoje "strane" kojoj pripadaju pripadnici odredjenih etnickih grupa. :) --PaxEquilibrium 19:24, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Translation?
Hello VKokielov,

I've noticed you are listed on Translators available, so I wanted to point out this request on talk page of WP Serbia for translation help. I don't mean to impose, but perhaps you can assist her or maybe can recommend someone who can? I've also requested assistance from another user listed on the translators available page but I'm not sure if he's available.

Хвала :) // Laughing Man 03:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi! This looks like as good a topic as any to continue with, since it's related anyhow.
 * I've been working on cleaning up and referencing Golubac fortress, but what I've found in English and German is rather limited. I noticed there's a Serbian version of the page here, but can't make heads or tails of the Cyrillic, and also came across this page which I can at least see has specific years, but can't understand any more than that.  If you could translate either or both of them so I can add more info to the article (and clarify the years I do have, since English sources disagree), that would be fantastic.  Whether you prefer prose, or bullet points, or direct translation, or whatever else, I'm not picky, and can always ask for clarification if something's confusing.
 * Thanks! -Bbik 02:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi again! Any news on how the translation's going?  No real rush, I just want to check whether something's still coming, or whether you've decided not to bother and I should ask someone else.  Thanks either way, -Bbik 16:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Looks like I'm going to be working on both the fortress and town articles after all.  The town's needed help anyhow.  Any idea what pariski and parohije mean, even if it's not a simple word for word translation? -Bbik 05:19, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Another (hopefully quick) question for you... It just occurred to me to wonder what the bit at the bottom of the external page says -- why he wrote the page, or some sort of copyright or something?
 * "Zbog trenutnih obaveza na fakultetu i ne bas neke motivacije, nisam uradio sajt takav kakav treba i očekujem da bude. Tako da ako želite da pomognete, javite mi se ... Hvala na razumevanju."
 * Thanks again, -Bbik 05:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi! I've finally had a chance to work on rewriting the article, but I'm a bit stuck on one part so I'm hoping you can provide a little bit of clarification.  This sentence, ...or was built only when between Hungary and Serbia [sic], begun after the death of Dragutin, fed by the ample ascent and territorial aspirations of both countries, and finished only when the Turks came to be a dangerous mutual enemy, what is the "[sic]" actually referring to?  The entire "between Hungary and Serbia" part, or?  Does the page actually mean that it might've been built as a joint effort?  What does Dragutin have to do with it, in that case?
 * Or did relations between Hungary and Serbia degrade after his death (wiki links aren't terribly clear on that either), so it was built by both countries, but in parts, perhaps amidst fighting over who owned it? Or does the page not really say, and that's what the "[sic]" is referring to? -Bbik 07:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Siguran
Uh, pa ne znam. Ja vrlo cesto (a i sada) ne pricam onako kako jeste, vec onako kako treba da bude (sto je ujedno i jedno od mojih mnogobrojnih mana).

Nemoj me pogresno razumjeti. Ja dijelim takve stavove (i nijesam jedini). Ali ja jesam realista i znam sto je realnost (vrlo [ne]rado je prihvacam). No to ne znaci da se necu protiv nje. :) --PaxEquilibrium 23:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Kosovo
Jesi li cuo za Kosovo? Konacno su pri kraju. Najzad ce i ta kontroverza biti zatvorena. --PaxEquilibrium 20:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Kosovo i Baskija su posljednja dva nestabilna dijela Europe (na stranu istok; Kavkaz, Sveta zemlja, itd). --PaxEquilibrium 23:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Jedna stvar je vrlo interesantna. Bas sada smo imali jednu Repliku (dan-dva nakon sto si pricao o onoj izdaji). Kada sam govorio da stav zvanicnog Beograda nije realan i da je realnije resenje nezavisnost od neceg drugog, zaista je bilo "urocenja" protiv mene, cak i obrusnih reakcija od naj-liberalnijih mojih kolega.


 * Na svu srecu, i nisu mi prava druzina. :) --PaxEquilibrium 23:41, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Eh? --PaxEquilibrium 14:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Complex number
Hi, VKokielov!

I've responded to your questions on this talk page. Have a great day! DavidCBryant 13:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Ladino & co.
שלום! Govori ga, cini mi se, jos jedino Moric Albahari, mada ne znam koliko tecno. Sin Amiela Fincija ozenio je u Izraelu tursku Jevrejku i njihova djeca ga govore tecno, kad dodju u BiH na odmor. Govorio ga je i (nedavno?) preminuli otac ministra vanjskih poslova, Svena Alkalaja, i Sven se, cini mi se, snalazi, ali to je to. Jadno! U Mostaru ima grupa (ili je bila grupa) goyim koji su pjevali na (dosta dobrom) Ladinu. I bili pretty popular odmah po ratu. FreshBreeze 08:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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Ms. Jovovich / Serbian
Thanks for taking that off. I wasn't sure if she did or not, I just re-worded what somebody else put up. But it's good it's off if it's not true, anyway. I'm a huge fan of hers, but I'm only recently finding out things like that, so I didn't know for sure. Anyway, thanks again, see you around Wikipedia, Jay 20:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay in responding, my reminder that you had replied to me was gone, and it completely slipped my mind until now. But yes, I do remember reading that about her being on that Russian TV program, and not speaking Russian very well, so then she started speaking English instead. Anyway, thanks again for clarifying the issue :), Jay 05:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: i was in Zagreb
You should have told me you were coming, we could have had a cup of coffee :) --Joy &#91;shallot] 22:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

academic sources
VKokielov, coming off of Talk:Mary Wollstonecraft, it seems to me that your larger problem is with WP:V and WP:RS, and possibly WP:NOR and WP:NPOV. You seem like a thoughtful sort, so I'd really encourage you to think about how your opinions in opposition to academic sources are consistent with those policies. If they're not, then you need to think about whether you should try to change those policies or whether you can in good faith work with editors who are guided by and accept those policies. But you've been here a while, based on your talk page, so I have to wonder: if you know the policies, and yet attempt to make changes that you understand are counter to those policies -- does this seem like good faith editing on your part, to you? --Lquilter (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Responding to your accusation
You recently deleted an entry that I made on the Maureen Dowd page, claiming it was gossip. You further sent me a message where you warned me not to spread gossib on Wikipedia.org. First of all, had you actually read my entry, you would have seen clearly that I posted a source about what was said, that source being the Washington Post. So obviously, you didn't read it. Your accusation of me knowing something about her that no-one else knows are baseless. The paragraphs you deleted were not re-instated. But next time, do not make accusations. Learn to read carefully first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.46.218.143 (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Emir Kusturica
''I also don't understand Emir Kusturica, who, by the rules of decency, had better set himself in a corner and sit there quietly. --VKokielov 19:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)''

? :) --PaxEquilibrium (talk) 10:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Bosniaks
Greetings. I've noticed you are one of the editors who has edited the Bosniaks article. I was wondering if you would have any input into a few "revert wars" happening lately over there. Here's a diff. Personally, I think the changes are biased, a little racist/xenophobic, but mostly, they are wrong.

P.S, I've sent this message to a few of the users I've seen in the page history to try to get a discussion started. 121.222.199.140 (talk) 10:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Salvo D'Acquisto
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Re:Request
Hi! I think that requests like this one are not appreciated here. Anyway, I'm quite sure Salvo D'Acquisto is notable (and the article explains why) and I have improved the article a bit. Ciao ;-) --Jaqen (talk) 19:08, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes... The original article you wrote didn't really show why he met WP:BIO, which is why it was speedily deleted. The new version is much better and has references and wikilinks. :-) Grand  master  ka  22:51, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: question
Yes, currently all the articles are written in Syriac. The wiki isn't only limited to Syriac, though. If you can write in another dialect (preferably in another script, like Hebrew), I don't think there would be any problem with that. I believe the Kurdish Wikipedia has something similar where generally Kurmanji Kurdish is written in the Latin alphabet while Sorani Kurdish is written in the Arabic alphabet. --334 (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Writing in the vernacular is a tricky thing :). When I first started editing the Aramaic Wikipedia, I wrote in my vernacular dialect. I had no formal "training", I just learned the alphabet and wrote phonetically (how I learned to pronounce the words from my parents). Needless to say, this is akin to teaching only the Latin alphabet to an illiterate 20-year old native speaker of English and expecting them to edit Wikipedia: you're going to make mistakes everywhere. Plus you have the large amount of foreign words in each dialect. Writing in a standard language (like classical Syriac) makes things simple, it's not as if Bristol English or Newfoundland English have their own wikis apart from standard English, or the various dialects of Arabic as opposed to standard Arabic. --334 (talk) 20:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

TomKat
Hello VKokielov It would be great if you could contribute your ideas to the debate on the worthiness of deleting the article TomKat, as you have previously discussed it on it's discussion page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/TomKat Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.141.163.150 (talk) 23:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

RFC at WP:NOR-notice
A concern was raised that the clause, "a primary source may be used only to make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge" conflicts with WP:NPOV by placing a higher duty of care with primary sourced claims than secondary or tertiary sourced claims. An RFC has been initiated to stimulate wider input on the issue. Professor marginalia (talk) 18:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Shalom, Shlama
Where you the one who sent the email about the name Gabr-el? Just curious. If you were, nice to meet you!Gabr-  el  16:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you then for the email. Just a quick question. You know I am an Aramaic speaking Christian - are you ethnically Jewish? Regards. Gabr-  el  16:44, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, nice to meet you again. Its always great to meet another Jew. I feel more close to Jews than any other non-Assyrian/Chaldean people; as a Christian, I buy the Abraham story literally and see a common Mesopotamian ancestry for both us. My dad claims Assyrian ethnicity and my mother Chaldean ethnicity. Gabr-  el  01:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Relationship of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes
What do you mean by this? And what does that have to do with your removing a sourced statement from the lead?

Also, when you removed sources like, make sure that the source is not being used for other stuff within the article. Those reference bot rescuers do not always show up, at least not always on time.

On another note, if there is a celebrity supercouple article you should really take issue with, it should be the Brangelina one. It is completely redundant, as discussed on the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie talk pages. Flyer22 (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

RE
No problemo. ICTYoda (talk) 17:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Christmas
A lot of Jews do celebrate Christmas (usually in a distinctly non-religious sense). The very famous song White Christmas was even written by a Jew, Irving Berlin. Trachtenberg may very well have only one Jewish parent, but there should be some kind of reliable source to back that up. All Hallow&#39;s (talk) 13:59, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Affirmation in law
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Giulia Luzi
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Friedrich Kellner
I just sent you an email, but in case it does not get through to you, I thought I should write to you here, as well. I am hoping you can help me with the Friedrich Kellner article, to translate it into Russian. I have a condensed version of the article that I can send to you (about 1500 words). Thank you, Scott Rskellner (talk) 23:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

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Russian translation
Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for Russian to English translators and wondered if you could translate Maria Vladimirovna of Staritsa and/or Vladimir of Staritsa? Thanks.--Queen Elizabeth II&#39;s Little Spy (talk) 00:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Article upgrade assistance request (Pre-translation stage)
Seasons Greetings,

This is in reference to a relatively new umbrella article on en-wikipedia named Ceremonial pole. Ceremonial pole is a human tradition since ancient times; either existed in past at some point of time, or still exists in some cultures across global continents from north to south & from east to west. Ceremonial poles are used to symbolize a variety of concepts in several different world cultures.

Through article Ceremonial pole we intend to take encyclopedic note of cultural aspects and festive celebrations around Ceremonial pole as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

While Ceremonial poles have a long past and strong presence but usually less discussed subject. Even before we seek translation of this article in global languages, we need to have more encyclopedic information/input about Ceremonial poles from all global cultures and languages. And we seek your assistance in the same.

Since other contributors to the article are insisting for reliable sources and Standard native english; If your contributions get deleted (for some reason like linguistics or may be your information is reliable but unfortunately dosent match expectations of other editors) , please do list the same on Talk:Ceremonial pole page so that other wikipedians may help improve by interlanguage collaborations, and/or some other language wikipedias may be interested in giving more importance to reliablity of information over other factors on their respective wikipedia.

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Thanking you with warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 06:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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