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Though you have the page on your watchlist. Per curtesy, I'm just letting you know, I've added another option in the RFC you've started. GoodDay (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * please self-rv. The discussions are obviously related, but the decision on keep/don't keep the masthead is parallel not aligned with whether the headline should be included and changing the query midway through the discussion confuses things too much. VQuakr (talk) 23:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be better to deal with 'two items' rather then just one? I doubt anybody would support both the masthead 'and' the front page, being included in the article. GoodDay (talk) 04:31, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * that does seem unlikely. Though there's plenty of "unlikely" (to be kind) behaviors being exhibited on that page, from all sides of the spectrum it seems. VQuakr (talk) 04:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've asked an administrator to review my addition of the NY Post front page option, to the RFC. Some editors agree with adding it, while other don't. GoodDay (talk) 04:54, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I already !voted. I still think it would have been cleaner to just start a thread about the cover; if there was clear consensus to incorporate it and that obsoleted the RFC, no big deal. But every decision needn't be laden with drama, right? VQuakr (talk) 04:59, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, it appears ya'll are settling in to having 'two' options presented. Reckon (after a 'bumpy' start) the RFC will go smoothly, from here on forward. GoodDay (talk) 05:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Yup, nothing wrong with accepting 'good enough' from time to time. Thanks! VQuakr (talk) 05:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

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Disengage?
Hi VQuakr. For a little while now, you've been the only editor responding about Rittenhouse. I think if you disengage, we can let that discussion die a quiet death. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:53, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * noted, thanks for the feedback. VQuakr (talk) 23:07, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

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Peace offer
Hey, I'm sorry we appear to have gotten off on the wrong foot. I genuinely feel like we've misunderstood each other. I certainly never meant to be anything but civil and contribute in good faith. Can we try and pull back from antagonizing each other? I certainly never meant to draw your ire and I'm finding this fight extremely unpleasant. Happy to withdraw my admin complaint if we can agree to assume good faith and stop fighting. Tambor de Tocino (talk) 08:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds agreeable. VQuakr (talk) 08:55, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Given the back and forth, reciprocal strikes of stuff that might be over the top seems overly complex. Suggest we sleep on it and see if we can move on? VQuakr (talk) 08:59, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Recent Edit on a BLP (where the edit goes to the main substance of entry)
Hopefully I have been able to initiate a 3O on your edit of the attached page earlier today. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Debito_Arudou&oldid=1153979278#Is_Mr._Beamer_a_US_citizen? It isn't clear how the primary source, which directly challenges the first paragraph of the BLP, is "libellous". I notice that you have previously gone in, along with specific other editors, and removed information about this BLP. You should at least be able to state what level of authentication is required to substantiate this fact and have it included in the entry. Blofit (talk) 00:09, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * this isn't a valid topic for WP:3O since there are more than two participants in the discussion. My advice is to edit an area unrelated to living persons for a while and forget all about this subject. But the answer to your question is at WP:BLPPRIMARY: a primary source will never be sufficient for the sort of musings you are making. Examples of generally reliable secondary sources can be found at WP:RSPSS (the green ones). VQuakr (talk) 00:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It seems, right now, there are just two. Because the chain of edits has gone from one user suggesting Talk Page, and then two highly interested users on that Talk Page taking issue with the topic being raised. This is probably not sock puppeteering, but interested editors with their own off-site connection to the party, and an interest in not seeing changes or challenges. It is you though who shut the conversation there down.
 * Primary source that is a government record has been used for this BLP. When he gave up American citizenship, it was one of the few that made it into the congressional record.  The reason for the entry and BLP is this is someone who supposedly gave up the citizenship for purposes of civil rights activism in Japan, but is in fact no longer in Japan and no longer a US renouncer.  The BLP unique quality may actually need the inclusion of material later than 2013 so the entry does not read like marketing material to build notoriety.
 * There is too much last wordism surrounding any online discussion about this individual as a subject. People who see---really---nothing more than promoted a lawsuit and changes citizenship as the key fame points would wonder why it is so. 01:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC) Blofit (talk) 01:02, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Blofit, Throast, VQuakr, and Johnuniq is 4. Quit musing about other editors' motivations and exhibit an interest in some other topic. VQuakr (talk) 01:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , you're dangerously close to a WP:NOTHERE block. Stop this accusatory nonsense right now. Throast  { { ping }} me! (talk &#124; contribs) 10:45, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * aww shucks, thanks! VQuakr (talk) 02:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hiya, implementing consensus is not edit warring, please read the guidance, happy editing, Tom B (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello! We simultaneously wrote on each other's talk pages. I suggest we choose either here or there for clarity. Preference? VQuakr (talk) 18:05, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for the "I think it would be worthwhile to add a subsection to the history section to discuss these early "pre-assault" automatic rifles" remark, it helped to reach a consensus on adding info on Fyodorov's Avtomat as "WWI design" that predates Sturmgewehr in terms of history of assault rifles. In fact, the remark was of great help to avoid a lengthy "6.5x50SR - is it a rifle round or intermediate round?" debate. 81.89.66.133 (talk) 09:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)