User talk:VaBthang4

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August 2007
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Indianapolis Colts. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Hut 8.5 18:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah...
I suppose that could've been called an edit war but not sure how to fight off someone wanting to make silly changes for personal reasons. It looks like we did come to a consensus regarding the final version to the relocation segment.

I assume there is some sort of administrative penalty involved if someone is just bombing the place...however, I think it is clear that is not what I was doing.

I'm way new so...undoing other edits and adding my own is the only way I know. Sorry if I bothered anyone running the site. :o) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VaBthang4 (talk • contribs).


 * OK, that's understandable. Next time discuss with the other user (who I have also warned), and follow Dispute resolution. If you weren't a new user you would have been blocked, as you reverted 11 times (I think) and you violated WP:3RR with the fourth. You can always ask for help using the links I've provided above. Hut 8.5 19:26, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Peace in our time
Errr... I certainly bare 50% of the responsibility for this debacle, but I stand by my reasons for my original edit - the article is fundamentally about the Colts - and I still feel that the Cleveland/Baltimore stuff is excessive to say the least and, in part, repeats material already in the article. I think I've figured out a way to tweak and trim things down and make it fit better, but I certainly wouldn't say we've reached a consensus - I just have better things to do. Having "Super Bowl" as two words is enough to stop the article showing up on my "things that irrationally irritate me" text search.

Honestly, I had you pegged as a one-note troll given the lack of edit comments. It's fairly obvious that that's not the case and I apologize for jumping to conclusions. Still, I'd suggest using the summary just to let other editors know what you're doing.

One other note, I still think the 60,020 capacity is the correct football capacity for the stadium - the series of figures in its own article look like the baseball capacities.

And out of curiosity, just what "personal reason" do you think I have? I'm not a fan of any of the three teams in question - I just prefer articles to be lean and mean and not drift. Majorclanger 00:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Cool...
Thanks Hut. I appreciate the grace.

As to the Cleveland and Baltimore information; when I came on and read the whole piece it was flowing with latent Hater-Ade towards the organization itself and implied toward the city of Indianapolis.

The history of the current Baltimore NFL team as well as its performance against the Colts is [for some] a very big part of the organization's history. It just is what it is. I did not make it that way...and nobody's dismissive perspective can undo it. You attempted to and you were wrong.

With regards to the capacity of Memorial stadium...it was not even as high as the current number [I acquiesced to] when the Colts wanted the changes made. But I do not feel to quibble over whether or not some condemned property could house 1000 rats or 1,500.

As to how you chose to orient yourself towards a new user and your perceptions about their behavior, that is of little concern to me. What I am concerned about is the way that the Colts organization has been portrayed since its move to the City of Indianapolis. Hence my passion on the subject matter displayed and boorish behavior in making certain that it is correct.

I apologize to anyone concerned for handling the edits incorrectly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VaBthang4 (talk • contribs).


 * I still fail to see how any post-settlement data regarding Baltimore and their team is appropriate to a Colts article, particularly the emphasis on the Super Bowl run - it can come across to a neutral (read: me) as having a non-neutral POV. I'm all in favor of balance, but if there was and anti-Indy slant there before, just take it out.  More content is not always better; it's just more.  At the moment, roughly 40% of the section covers events post-settlement (including the last sentence of the third paragraph following the citation), which is way too much.  It also interrupts the flow of the article - it ticks along nicely chronologically until it jumps to 2007, then jumps back to 1984.  I think that the stuff about the Baltimore team having a shot at stopping the Colts is fine, but should be merged with the 2006 season section.  In hindsight, I should have done this instead of frying the whole thing.


 * Regarding the capacity, it's not really pertinent at all - rather than have questionable info with contradictory sources, I'm going to excise it entirely. It doesn't alter the point at all.Majorclanger 15:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hello.

I did see that. But it looks like there is some sort of automatic feature that names the author of the comments. I am not trying to hide my identity but I just figured since it automatic displays the author, what the heck. :o) VaBthang4 16:41, 21 August 2007 (UTC) Hope that helps.


 * You do realise you're talking to a computer program? Hut 8.5 17:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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LOL! No... VaBthang4 18:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

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 * I have attributed this content, but there are, obviously graver issues that may result in the loss of much of it not only from History of the Indianapolis Colts but also from Indianapolis Colts. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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