User talk:Vaake

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White metal
It seems that you feel impassioned about the "white metal" term in the Christian metal article since you posted it twice after it was deleted by an administrator. You also deleted the references to the mainstream use of the term and neo-nazism. Do realize that barely none of the Christian media in English-speaking countries use the term? Just because it was used in other Wikipedia articles doesn't mean they are correct, and some of those links such as the French Wikipedia one redirects to "metal chrétien" (Christian metal). According to your references on that article, "white metal" is mostly used in the latin countries (Italy, South America) and by old school metalheads. As you can read yourself from those references you posted, few of those sites, apart from Whitemetal.it, talk about latter day metal or extreme metal at all. Most of those sites also appear to be fan-based and therefore unreliable, which does not satisfy Wikipedia's policy. Wikipedians usually do not list references in chunks like that, you have to use citation templates. However, I feel that your intentions are good, so are you ok if it would just say that "some of the people in South America and Italy still use it as a synonym for Christian metal music"? If you have further opinions about this, please start a discussion about it in the article's discussion page. --Azure Shrieker 21:15, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


 * "talk about latter day metal or extreme metal at all."

Sorry, but for me they talk about all christian metal scene!


 * "However, I feel that your intentions are good, so are you ok if it would just say that "some of the people in South America and Italy still use it as a synonym for Christian metal music?"

Good solution, but in Eighties (not only hard'n'heavy ! http://www.firestream.net/custom/fs_rate.php?go=showitem&item_id=1572&cat_id=196, also extreme music, thrash/death) and France too (http://www.wm4c.net/ the only christian metal french resource) IMO ;)--Vaake 00:39, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, after a more accurate check you are correct; those are notable resources in that case. However, let's continue this on the article's talk page. --Azure Shrieker 13:48, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the consideration, and sorry for my bad english..I'm from Italy... ^^ --Vaake 15:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No need to apologize your English, it's not my native language either. Say, if you are not busy with Italian Wikipedia or anything, why don't you join the English WikiProject Christian Metal and help us extend the Christian metal articles? In the Italian Wikipedia page, there seems to be a nice section about the "white metal vs. Christian metal" controversy. I quickly checked it with google translator but am not sure if I understood that correctly. Why don't you translate that to English for the "Controversy" section since you are from Italy? It does not matter if you can't write perfect English; other project members will help to correct the spelling. It might help to clear some misunderstandings.--Azure Shrieker 17:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi!, you've enclosed in the page a very good translaction from wiki italian...Excellent work brother, hail :) --Vaake 12:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC)