User talk:Valentinian/Archive 1

Funny
Oh it did make me laugh reading the section about Danish myths, i certianly laughed about how you corrected people about Ikea being the Capital. I certianly like Denmark alot!

Odense Yard
Hallo Valentinian, thanks for corrections of the Odense Yard article. I'm DEF, born and stay in Berlin,Germany and i'm fan of the A.P.Möller Maerk group since mid 1970's. I've wrote the new article about Odense Yard and wrote mostly new the article about A.P.Möller Maersk group. Greets from Berlin to Odense, DEF, July,21.2005

IDRIVE
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Thanks!
Thanks very much for your reply on Talk:Faroe_Islands. Very interesting and informative. Denmark is a place I know little about - the closest I've been is Malmo! Sorry for not repling sooner. Seabhcán 15:52, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank for correcting
the article about Skåne. We in Sweden often forget that old Scanian things are often Danish. I have made this mistake several times myself, in writing about Malmö and its old church there. So you'll probably encounter it again -- but don't take offense, no harm intended :-)

--Fred-Chess 14:28, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Greek Royal Family descends from Byzantine Greeks
If you happen to be interested in Byzantines and royals, have you observed that the Prince William of Denmark who as George I of Greece was elected King of the Hellenes 1863 following the deposition of Otto. He thus became the monarch of the country whose territory had been under dominion of his ancestors, Emperors of the Romans who ruled in Constantiople (cf Talk:Alexandra of Greece/Ancestral data), such as Emperors Constantine IX, Alexius I, John II, Isaakios II, Alexius III and Theodoros I. Arrigo 09:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

That wasn't me who created that long geneaology. I just moved it from the Talk:Alexandra of Greece page to that subpage to get it out of the way. Noel (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Replied at my talk page. Please visit. 217.140.193.123 07:11, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

IDRIVE
I just wanted to let you know that at This week's improvement drive the incomplete signature you provided for Constantinople was removed by User:Mallocks as a proper vote. Since I'm not in the place to tell if it was your intention to vote, I'll leave it as it is now. Please go there and vote again if that was your intention. --Laisak 11:00, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

Danish municipalities
Hej Valentinian! Thanks for checking up on my work as I am trying to upgrade all the municipality pages. It's so easy to make typos, and other mistakes (let alone the big mistakes, like facts). As for the new Assens municipality after the merge of 2007... it appears that actually the name of the municipality will not be Assens, but rather New Assens (Ny Assens)! See my note on Talk:Tommerup municipality. This might mean I revert the a --> the again with this name change. If you have any problems with this, or any of the general language I am using, please let me know. I am trying to keep the language as standard as possible, after all there are 271 articles, plus the new future municipalities. I don't think either you or I want to start changing words here and there with all the followup work that entails. But please, let me know if you mean there could be improved language, and we'll work it out. Thanks again. Sfdan 15:11, 24 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Hej Valentinian. Since you are my "kommune ekspert" on Wiki I'd like you to confirm this-- is Æblerød a fictive kommune?  It's had an article since Jan. 12, 2004, and is on the Municipalities of Denmark list, but I see no outside evidence of its existence (listed website does not connect, not on kommunekort, not on my spreadsheept over borgmestre, osv.).  Its history also seems a bit suspect, started by an IP address, and a different IP address tried to delete the text out of it, which was of course interpreted as a vandalism and restored.  I'd like a second opinion before acting on having it deleted, if that should be done.  Thanks! SFDan 14:08, September 8, 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick action. SFDan 21:17, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Responding
Hi.

Glad you liked the image of Trefoldighetskyrkan, it came from Swedish wikipedias "Projekt kyrkobyggnader" There are more image on this church on wikimedia commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Heliga_Trefaldighetskyrkan, and of the project.

Fred-Chess 20:45, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Flag of Denmark, et al.
Hello! I hope you're well. Thanks for your note and praise; I appreciate it. I first revised images of the Danish flags (and others) out of uncertainty--or lack of authoritative sources--as to the precise red on the flags and out of a desire for accuracy. Users Haabet and Twthmoses seem(ed) unsatisfied with this and I got into a bit of a sparring match with the latter about what was authoritative. Ah well; what's done is done. Now, that the naval flag has been redrawn in accordance with the cited colours, Haabet keeps reverting. This is extremely frustrating, but I will no longer fret. In any event, my thanks for your commentary and diligence; keep up the good work! E Pluribus Anthony 17:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

By the way, I just read your response to Haabet's assertion of your 'vandalism'; he has also accused me of such. Perhaps we should investigate taking collective action? Thoughts? In any event, good luck! E Pluribus Anthony 00:15, 1 September 2005 (UTC).

Hello again! It seems like there is a perpetual struggle now for the Danish Naval Flag (with another user), and it is being replaced with what I believe is a lighter version of the legitimate version. Precluding an edit war (and further activity from said uers), I'd think to keep it cool for now. I'm sure information on ameliorating name-callers exists on the main and related pages. Thought? A bientot. E Pluribus Anthony 06:08, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Kondia
From http://rgo.newmail.ru/history/khr_tit.htm  Кондийский означает область реки Конды, впадающей в Иртыш, в Тобольской же губернии. Kondia is the region of river Konda flowing into Irtysh in Tobolsk gubernia. abakharev 22:57, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Bagrat 4
Instead of bothering to make an AFD for Bagrat IV, you could have just made it a redirect to Bagrat IV of Georgia. I'd do it now, but that'd be tampering with the AFD process. Unless you, the nominator, change your vote - that'd qualify it for a speedy redirect.

Remember - redirects are cheap. DS 14:05, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar
Fir e  Fo  x  20:25, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Misconceptions
Hi. Regarding those misconceptions about Denmark - I've never encountered any of them. However, there's one serious misconception that's not on your list, but which I am fed up with - namely, the misconception that all Danes are racists. We are not! I am not, at least, and most other Danes I know aren't either. I don't know how you feel about this misconception, but it really p****s me off that we've gained such a reputation around the world.

Here's another misconception: A lot of people think Denmark's adjacent to Belgium and that we speak Dutch.. now that's weird, innit?

By the way, it's good that you corrected 'foerebunkeren' to 'foererbunkeren' in the article on Odense University.

KEJ 15:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

I like your note on "not leaving people to die in the streets", though this does not only happen in Communist countries.KEJ 10:16, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Indian Railways Map.gif
''Why did you list this image as "Unknown copyright status"? The disclaimer on the original source of the image begins with the words: "This official website of the “Ministry of Railways, Govt. of India” "... etc. []''

''That sounds pretty much like a government agency to me (although the web page looks rather crappy.) The description of the "PD-Indian Gov"-tag primarily deals with photos but states that "Information published by Indian government websites are in Public Domain under the Right to Information Act." Would you please elaborate why this image should not be PD under this definition? --Valentinian 16:36, 16 October 2005 (UTC)''
 * See &#123;{PD-IndiaGov}}'s tfd. &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 16:50, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Christian X editing.
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, I am a typical monoglot American. I'm literate in Spanish and can muddle through Portuguese, but that's where I fall off. However, I was able to find a history professor who knew of the book and was able to give me what I needed based on that, so it's still much appreciated.

-- Tom Lillis

Re: Danish "dependencies"
 Hello Jesper. I understand that under the Danish consitutional arrangements Greenland and the Faroe Islands are part of the Kingdom. Yet very often being an integral part of the sovereign state or not is not the only criteria to determine whether a territory is a dependency. Dependent territories can be defined by the degree of separation from the motherland or proper of the sovereign state, such as law, immigration policies, customs (trade), etc. In fact I have been using the Danish, as well as the Dutch arrangement to demonstrate that dependent territories can be integral parts of sovereign states. Thanks so much for the illustration of the Danish system.. learnt something new from that. You may think about expanding the existing articles about the Kingdom of Denmark, the Community of the Realm, the Constitution, Greenland, and the Faroe Islands. Cheers. &mdash; Instantnood 15:15, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 *  Thanks so much for the reply. I understand the English word "dependency" may not have a direct equivalence in some languages, and for some languages the nearest equivalence would possess some undesirable connotations. Yet when we have to study these non-sovereign-but-possess-much-power-like-many-other-sovereign-states territories of different sovereign states horizontally, a term has to be used to refer to them. No single word is the best, and different sovereign states use different terms. Certain conventions have been established among people who study them that some are considered to be belonged to the group, and some do not. In my opinion, the Faroe Islands, Greenland, as well as Åland, Aruba, Jan Mayen, Netherlands Antilles, Svalbard, certainly belongs, although they are not as separate with the corresponding sovereign states as the British overseas territories do with the UK. &mdash; Instantnood 16:03, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 *  Hmm.. I prefer calling them "self-governing territories with certain degree/substantial level of international representation and separate law/legal system". But that's obviously far too clumsy. What about "countries that are not sovereign states" or even "non-sovereign countries"? Sounds like we're on the edge of neologism for the sake of NPOV and pleasing everybody... Gotta headache to exclude Scotland and Wales by the way, while including all the other non-sovereign self-governing countries. :-) &mdash; Instantnood 18:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Dependencies
Hi, I refer to the message you left in, and I am indeed glad to see some definitive contributions to this topic. Please feel free to be bold and make corrections, but of coz do explain them with relevant citations. For example, if it is deemed that the Danish "dependencies" should not be as such, then it may be better to move them to the Dependent_area#Notes section of List of dependent territories.

Do exercise some caution in interpreting the text in that page. I am not sure who came up with its definition, but I definitely can guarantee you that it is not definitive nor binding. If you may refer to instantnood's comments, above, he believes that "state intergration" is not the only criteria. On the other hand, I believe it is the only sole and feasible distinction, as there is no such thing as utilising the "degree of seperation" as a crtieria, nor that of the "degree of intergration". There is no single standard the world over, nor is there any authoritative source stating that a territory must have X level of seperation for it to be deemed a "dependency".

Rather, most texts will show, that the political status or an entity is almost always purely in the hands of the one in power, and I find it difficult to find exceptions. If a country considers an entity part of its primary territory (or any other word/phrase it deemed fit), then this should be taken into greater consideration, because an attempt to claim that an entity is a dependency when the motherland do not deem it as such, is posing a direct challenge to the motherland's sovereignty over these territories, hardly an issue to trifel with. Past disagreements over the status of HK has led to direct correspondance with the HK government, before a solution could be found. As it is clear, it is the government's views which takes precedence, and it is not wikipedia's business to claim that a territory is a "dependency" just because it "appears to be one". When is it feasible to assume that self-administrative systems across countries are directly comparable for such assumptions to take place?

I would certainly like to hear your views on this issue, and I look forward to greater clarifications over the Danish territories.--Huaiwei 20:08, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. ;) I read through the text related to the Faroe Islands, and I am quite curious to know if the arrangement with regards to the Danish territories has anything in common to that of the UK's England-Scotland-Walse scenario?--Huaiwei 18:54, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * From what I learnt from Jesper's comment at my talk page, I'd say it's more like the Dutch arrangement, although the Kingdom of Denmark does not have a super-level government above the governments of its three constituent nations as the Kingdom of Netherlands do. It's like halfway between the Dutch and the Norwegian ways. England itself does not have its own government and legislature, by the way. &mdash; Instantnood 19:26, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I was asking Valentinian, if you dont mind.--Huaiwei 19:46, 26 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I've just skimmed the Dutch Statue on the Dutch Wiki / Wikisource . My Dutch is not perfect, but I can read some of it. Instantnood, your analysis is basically correct, but the systems seem to be closer related. The Kingdom government and the Dutch government are almost identical. Had that been the case, the two systems would be virtually identical. The legal form used in the Netherlands may simply be a result of a different legal tradition (Roman Law vs. Germanic Law). I'm not sure that's the reason but we follow different legal traditions. A few similarities, however: 1) The Dutch government is represented in the Overseas Territories by a governor. Denmark has the same system, only we call him a Rigsombudsmand (High Commissioner). 2) The Dutch government has a Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations. . In Denmark, that task is part of the Prime Minister's portfolio . The main difference, in my view, is that the Netherlands have passed a statute which looks pretty much like a constitution, regarding the joint affairs of the Kingdom. §7 of it states that the Kingdom Government has a representative for each of the minor provinces. Well, in Denmark we consult the Premiers of the Faroe Islands and Greenland, but they don't sit in the Danish Cabinet. Denmarks has not passed such a law. Our Constitution is valid everywhere in the Realm. The last time we had such a super-national construction was before 1864. Until then, we had a constitution regarding the joint affairs of Denmark, the Duchy of Slesvig and the Duchy of Holstein. When we passed a joint democratic construction for both Slesvig and Denmark in 1863, that action immediately prompted an invasion led by Prussia and Austria, which jeopardized the very independence of Denmark. In the peace of 1864, the combined Danish-German state was forced to hand over half of its territory to Prussia / Austria, including a large segment of my people. That in turn almost let to the complete fall of the Danish democracy. Our new anti-democratic Revised Constitution of 1866 was not repealed until 1915. My point is that since the biggest crisis in Danish history, the Danish political system hasn't really fancied the idea of having more than one constitution. On the contrary, an often quoted statement in Danish is Ingen over og ingen ved siden af Folketinget (No-one above and no-one next to Parliament.) The same sentiment applies to the Constitution. The Danish Parliament has delegated a number of issues to the local authorities on the Faroe Islands and Greenland. Period. If you're interested, the full text of the Home Rule agreement is here:. Note §1 Greenland is a distinct community within the Kingdom of Denmark. Within the framework of the unity of the Realm, the Greenland home rule authorities shall conduct Greenland affairs in accordance with the provisions laid down in this Act. That makes it pretty clear that Greenland is a community but completely integrated in the Kingdom. One of my other posts contained a factual error. Danish laws normally contain the phrase 'Denne lov gælder ikke for Færøerne og Grønland'' (This law does not apply to the Faroe Islands and Greenland). But that is NOT inscribed in the Constitution, it's just legal tradition showing  respect for the two smaller communities. The only thing the Constitution does specify is that Greenland and the Faroe Islands are both entitled to two seats in the Danish Parliament. This is stated here, because under normal rules, the areas would barely be entitled to one each, being so sparsely populated (a typical Danish constituency has around 50,000 - 60,000 people. The Faroes and Greenland both have around 50,000 inhabitants).


 * Back to the comparison between the Danish and Dutch examples: In Denmark, we don't have a constitution / statute for the affairs of the entire Realm. If doubts arise - no question about it - all sovereignty ultimately rests in Copenhagen, in the Danish Cabinet and the Danish Parliament. Regarding a comparison with the United Kingdom, I don't have enough expert knowledge regarding the British system. Of course there are obvious similarities. 1) Scotland is a historical, geographical, and political entity which has been independent for most of its existence. 2) Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland do not conduct a foreign policy (so when Scotland and the Faroes argue over which country owns the fish near Rockall, that means London and Copenhagen argues on their behalfs.) 3) The local parliaments in the UK have legislative powers, so has the Lagting (Løgting) on the Faroes and the Landsting on Greenland. So Huaiwei, I'm afraid I am not properly qualified to assist you regarding the broard picture regarding the UK, but if you have a more detailed issue which I can compare to the Danish system, I'll be glad to help. Feel free to send me a mail.


 * Well, this exercise has been very interesting, but it's taking too much of my time. I fail to understand why I have to continue fighting in order to defend the constitutional principles of my country and why I have to insist that the feelings of my fellow countrymen be respected. Just for the record: I support the unity of the our three communities and I will resent anyone offending my fellow countrymen, for whatever purpose!


 * I'm afraid nothing I have so say will convince Instantnood that he's in error. Sorry, but I don't feel the urge to waste any more of my time with idle debate. Instantnood, your position is POV and offensive to an important segment of my countrymen. It's that simple! POV is not allowed under Wikipedia rules! Why don't you take a good look at the talk pages of Jan Mayen, Åland, Template:Europe, Faroe Islands and a number of other talk pages. As you will see, the US notion of a "dependency" does not match the constitutional arrangements made in Denmark, Norway, and Finland. This in an option held by a vide number of editors; surprise, they are all Scandinavians or Finns. Why? Because the Nordic Countries have have similar historical and legal traditions. If you could read any of our languages, I might be able to provide you with sources that would convince you, but at the moment, I'm think further debate is pointless. And please don't say that the lithmus test is the "definitions" in the World Fact Book. The World Fact Book stated - until a just few years ago - that Denmark became independent in 1849. We became independent around AD 700 (well, what's 1,100 years between friends?) Unfortunately, that's not the only error in that book. If any list like this does not adhere to the constitutional and legal definitions, then a "list of dependencies" will be nothing but a political tool. In other words, a perfect opportunity for a never-ending revert-war between editors wanting to make bogus allegations about separatism in an arbitrary list of countries, while removing references to countries which they support. For that reason - and because use of the word is POV to some users / nationalities - my self included - I insist that any such list has to be based on the legal definitions and the legal / constitutional arrangements. And it must use a choice of words which are not offensive to the populations in question. Whenever a Danish politician is stupid enough to state that Greenland or the Faroes might be less than equal to the rest of Denmark, there's an outcry in both communities and support for independence rises dramatically. And I don't blame them! If that's not good enough to qualify as POV, I don't know what is. If objectivity and NPOV is not followed, the list will merely be a propaganda tool. --Valentinian 10:46, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I understand the meaning of the same term may vary in different legal systems and traditions, and the picture is further complicated by different languages. When we have to compare the more or less similar territories in different parts of the world, a term has to be used, and the term may not satisfy everybody. Although the term may be debatable, certain territories are usually, if not always, grouped under this category according to the established conventions. &mdash; Instantnood 13:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


 * As I've said before, I don't mind the grouping of the territories. By any means, include Nunavut, Hong Kong, Macau etc. if they haven't already been included on the relevant page (I haven't checked). No skin off my nose. What does offend me is a description which is not only inadequate but can cause offence. Constitutionally speaking, the only thing all these territories have in common is that they all have "a close relationship with another territory". Anyway most of them; Jan Mayen was awarded to Norway by the International Court in the Hague as a small compensation when Norway lost a case arguing for sovereignty over Eastern Greenland around 1930 (what the Norwegian called Eirik Raude Land). Until then, the rock had just been a disputed and completely irrelevant place on a map.


 * But the definitions of what constitutes "home rule" / "dependencies" / "special administrave regions" / "dominions" / "crown territories" are far from identical all around the board. The English word "dependency" appears to apply more correctly to some of the territories (formerly) belonging to the United Kingdom / British Empire or the United States. I hope that we agree this far. My main interest is to awoid a reference which will offend some of my fellow countrymen. That's why I suggest terms like "autonomous territories" (again, I can't see how Jan Mayen fits into that one), "overseas territories" or something similar. --Valentinian 13:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree the most commonly used established terms for this meaning - "dependencies" and "dependent territories" - are a little bit English-centric, since in most case it's used to talk about the British and American possessions. I am open on having a better term, as long as it's not going to be neologism. :-) (Nunavut does not belong to the group, by the way.) &mdash; Instantnood 20:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)


 *  Bring this up to the relevant talk pages. :-) &mdash; Instantnood 17:32, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Just wanna drop a line to tell you that I will turn greater attention to this issue in due course. I am presently tied down with too many issues, as well as those in the real world. :D--Huaiwei 20:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your vote, and HDI discussion underway ...
Hello again! I hope you're well. I'd like to thank you for participating in the vote earlier to include the HDI in the country infobox/template. Yay!

After a lengthy gestation, a discussion piece has been prepared to help give form to the vote. If you've a preference for how and where this information should appear in the infobox, I'd appreciate it if you head on over there and comment. :)

After a decision is arrived at, if at all, I'm also hopeful to prevail upon you to add the values (if you're willing and comfortable) for a handful of countries; the more people doing it, the less time it will take to implement the vote and realise the fruits of our collective labour.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for your co-operation! E Pluribus Anthony 04:10, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

... and concluded; pitch in!
Hello again! The discussion to determine the appearance of the HDI in the country/infobox template has been concluded, with an outline for moving forward. Please consider entering some metadata; we will more quickly realise the fruits of our labour if more users do so. In any event, thanks again for your participation! E Pluribus Anthony 02:44, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

Cyprus
...did not think you are from DK ;-). takk for your note. I added little template to the districts. I read your interesting user page. one thing: ...but was occupied by Nazi Germany for xy years? So the 700 AD is not 100% right? I don't know. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 03:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
 * No, we are not a part of Sweden, nor Germany. Denmark has stayed independent since around 700 AD or so.

Absent
No problem, this is the second time within 24 hours that I've reported him for gross 3RR violations, and he was only warned last time. This time he is banned for 24 hours - he'll probably return, hopefully cussing a mouthful so he can be perm-banned :P Sherurcij (talk) (bounties) 14:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Euro-politician-stub
Kohl's image on the stub is confusing, on articles without photos, one may get the impression, even for a second, that this is a picture of the person named in the article. I suggest you revert to either of your two previous edits. An image of the EU flag would be more in line with most xxx-politician stubs. Regards, and wishes for the new year Sysin 10:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
 * I have created Asia-bio-stub and Oceania-bio-stub, I hope you'll find them useful. Conscious 19:10, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Minor Thank You


A Minor Barnstar for all your minor edits and especially all your spelling and grammar works on hundres of articles. Angelbo 17:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

Danish naval flag
Hei! I reverted your reversion of the naval flag of Denmark because "your" version was not transparent. However, I saw afterwards that the colour was darker on yours. I have now darkened the colour on the transparent version, so it should all be good now (hopefully). Godt nyttår! kallemax 21:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The big Idiot with wrong categories
Really I have spend a week to put anything related to cyprus into Category:Cyprus. Unfortunatelly that idiot comes and put the cypriot people into greek people. That person also doesn't understand what is a sub-category. He put also stubs in big articles! He is too useless and destroys the articles in cyprus. As you said yes correct it means more a vandalism. I spent 2 hours to take off the wrong category:Greek people from cypriots and many more wrong categories and i sent him a message but really he is a psycho. As i saw in his talk page he has caused problems to other web sites. I don't want to waste my time for that idiot, so please can we do anything with him? how can we block him????????? User:KRBN


 * I've posted a reply on your talk page. --Valentinian 00:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Question on Categories
Hi Valentinian,

I'm pretty new on here and still trying to learn my way around. I have a question regarding Categories. Can you answer or point me to the right person who would know the following answer?

This guy Theathenae is telling me that [Macedonian singers] falls under a singer from Macedonia disambiguation but the category [Macedonian singers] falls under a sub-category of[Singers by nationality]. Wouldn't that make the [Macedonian singers] singer from [ROM]? Thanks in advance. ~Mallaccaos, 7 February 2006


 * Please disregard my above post. I've already got my answer from an admin.  Thanks  ~Mallaccaos, 7 February 2006


 * If the "Macedonian" categories are meant to explude people like me who are Macedonian but are not interested in being associated with the fYROM, then they are misnamed. The Pope is a "Catholic Christian" does not mean that he is not "Christian". Just because I am a "Greek Macedonian" does not mean that I am not "Macedonian". Perhaps the categories should be renamed to "... from the Republic of yadayada". Sysin 23:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Synsin, I just left a message at your [Talk] ~Mallaccaos, 7 February 2006

Thank you
Thanks for the advice on the rules of wikipedia and on my user page. Didn't realize that number meant how many languages you speak. :) ~Mallaccaos, 7 February 2006

Thanks
Valentinian - thanks for the Danish translations on the 43-page dossier: they are extremely illuminating. I also hope that some Arabic-speakers step up and contribute translations as well.

Sometimes, one gets the feeling that language barriers are the root of many of the problems facing the world today. If we could all understand each other, would embassies be burning? (I suppose they probably would, but perhaps we would understand the real reasons why better, rather than always drawing other-language-speakers with such a broad brush.) -- Vanitas 22:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks alot from me too. A small thing, however: Pages 6 and 9 have been mixed up. Can you change them around? I don't know how to do this, precisely. Azate 00:56, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know how to switch around images either. Page 19 seems to be duplicated - how does one replace it with the proper image? -- Vanitas 11:48, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Akkari dossier
I asked two guys at Ekstabladed.dk for a link to a translation of the arabic parts. Maybe we'll get lucky. Azate 14:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Let's hope so. The sooner people actually *read* what this dispute is about, the sooner it might blow over again. My thanks to you for the Arabic translations. --Valentinian 14:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Email
How do I put attachments in the wiki email form? The "upload file" does not seem to work.DanielDemaret 15:54, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right. My memory was wrong. Sorry. I've sent you a mail from my normal mail account. Please send it as a regular mail. --Valentinian 19:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Warning
Freedom of speech goes both ways. Jyllands-Posten does not have the sole right to freedom of speech. --Ezeu 05:26, 10 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Freedom of speech and racism / bigotry is not the same thing. I consider this discussion to be closed. --Valentinian 12:24, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Ezeu
I have reported the user to WP:ANI for his actions. OrangeMan 06:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Stub sorting on Portuguese communist articles
Why the politician stub? If someone is a communist that doesn't mean that person is a politician. Dias Coelho was an artist, Lopes Graça a composer, José Barata-Moura is a professor. None of them ever occupied a political office. The articles are stubs indeed, and I recognize your effort, I just think the stub sorting is not appropriate. Afonso Silva 00:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I've replied on your talk page. If I've mixed up, I'd be very glad if you would correct these mistakes. --Valentinian 00:52, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Need your help
Hey Valentinian, could I get you to check by Islam in Denmark and help out there? It could use a rewrite and more details.


 * I'm afraid I'm not very qualified to help with that task. I'll monitor the page, though. --Valentinian (talk) 00:24, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

AID vote for Denmark
Valentinian, it appears that you attempted to vote for Denmark at WP:AID. However, it seems that only the date and time came across, and not your username. If it was indeed your intent to vote for Denmark, could you please go and update the entry? Cheers, Lbbzman 20:38, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for telling me. I've fixed it. --Valentinian 22:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Exarchs of Ravenna
Your designation of articles belonging to this category as biographical stubs of religious figures is erroneous. An Exarch was an Eastern Roman government official (with political and military authority) and had no affiliation to the church nor any religious authority. I am proceeding to resort them as European history stubs. Contributor175


 * I've posted a reply on your talk page. Regards --Valentinian 10:29, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply and your even better initiative. May I suggest that you avoid the term Byzantium and use either Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine Empire for naming the stub category. Contributor175 16:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Kyprianou
Thanks for the heads up...Currently I will be busy for the next 3-4 days but in the meantime I will research more into the dates. There are different dates stated in a couple of websites. I was thinking to go with the PIO website. stay tuned...(UNFanatic 16:01, 23 February 2006 (UTC))

Paphos District
Yes, I mean Akrotiri Base for Lemesos. (User:KRBN 12:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC))

Spelling of the Latvian surname Krištopāns
Your edits across Wikipedias changing "Krištopans" to "Krištopāns" on the basis of the English version of the official website of the Cabinet of Ministers of Latvia are not so straightforward. The Latvian version (which should be regarded as "more official") of the very same page lists the former prime minister by the other spelling (Krištopans). However, even this Latvian version being the official is not necessarily the strongest argument. This ending (-āns) of a surname suggests that his family is from Latgale (in eastern Latvia) and it is far more common that -ans. Furthermore, Google is of no use in this case, because it does not distinguish between Kristopans, Krištopans or Krištopāns. However, I'm not objecting, it's just that I'm not sure whether you have chosen the right source. Best regards, --Jūzeris 21:04, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I can't tell you with confidence whether it is Voldemārs Zāmuels or Zāmuēls. The latter seems to be more popular spelling (with regard to this particular person who lived in the early 20th century), but it is not of Latvian origin (seems to be a Jewish name) and therefore the rules of Latvian orthography are not quite applicable. Modern spelling rules would say Zāmuels, while a hundred years ago it could have been acceptable to write Zāmuēls. The Democratic Centre Party from the 1920s is Demokrātiskā centra partija without much doubt. --Jūzeris 05:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Danish cabinet positions
Hi Thue

Great idea about the template, but a few ministerial posts are missing in order to make a complete list for all post-1848 governments:
 * Minister for Iceland
 * Minister for Schleswig
 * Minister for Holstein and Lauenburg
 * Minister for the Monarchy's Joint Internal Affairs
 * Minister of War (redirect to Minister of Defence?)
 * Minister of the Navy (redirect Minister of Defence?)
 * Minister for Public Works
 * Minister for South Jutland (Affairs) (1919)

It might be an idea to rename "Inactive posts" to "Historical offices" as well. Just my thoughts. Regards. --Valentinian (talk) 18:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I have added those. Note that I have been trying to standardize the English names of the offices (not least because the names I had added myself were inconsistent), with the priorities being
 * Simularity to the Danish names
 * Consistency among the names in Wikipedia
 * Good english
 * The names I choose can be seen in the template, and consider that template the reference for naming (including the consistent use of "(Denmark)" at the end where neccesary). I plan to update the naming elsewhere to match it. Do my choices seem reasonable to you? Thue | talk 18:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I've replied on your talk page. --Valentinian (talk) 00:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Flags
Hi!

Could you please state at commons:Commons talk:WikiProject Flags what needs to be changed about the colours? Thanks! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Done. --Valentinian (talk) 14:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 21:58, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Inga Helga Pedersen
Hi, could you please explain to me how Ms. Pedersen could serve as Justice Minister of Denmark only nine years old? I know Denmark is a liberal country, but this is ridiculous! Eixo 02:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * It's a typo. I'll update the figure. --Valentinian (talk) 11:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * BTW, you could have found that information by clicking at the interwiki link. --Valentinian (talk) 11:05, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah you're right, didn't think of that. Eixo 23:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Thessaloniki on the Article Improvement Drive
Thank you so much for your support of Thessaloniki on the AID! It's a wonderful city that does not get much attention and deserves featured article status since it is so close in content. I also have the name of a Roman emperor so I wanted to compliment you on your wikiname ;) --Caponer 00:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Politician stub split
Hi Valentinian - I've got no problem at all with you basing your split page on the one I use (I've added a couple of places you missed to your page in, too :). One thing you need to be aware of though is that the borders of the five African regions aren't set in stone, and it already seems that the ones we've been using for geo-stubs might be slightly outdated (the UN apparently now uses a new system, and it may be that Wikipedia's articles will start to reflect this new division). Grutness...wha?  13:07, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Makes perfect sense - it's a lot easier to count the smapper areas, too. I suspected that Japan and some of the others might have separate stubs now, but I wasn't sure about the Iran/Iraq/israel ones - and I seriously doubted it for Bermuda :) Grutness...wha?  21:52, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right about Bermuda (grin). Hmm, being a politician on Bermuda sounds kinda nice: You're paid by the public purse, the workload can't be too hard, and the beach is close by (sounds like any politician's ultimate dream.) Definitely better than Denmark, we've been freezing for the last three months. Valentinian (talk) 22:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

AID
-Litefantastic 00:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Herbert von Karajan
Hi Valentinian, I left you a message at the Herbert von Karajan talk page:. :) ~Mallaccaos, 14 March 2006

Stub_types_for_deletion
I have placed a rationale, what do you think. -- Cool CatTalk 12:04, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way may interest you. It appears User:Carlossuarez46 has a history of making unsubstantiated allegations. -- Cool CatTalk 12:11, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


 * My main motivation is trying to keep the current stub sorting system in one piece, with the same rules applying to all countries and nationalities. Only one system should apply, not one for Danes, a second for Kurds, and a third for Nigerians. At the moment, I'm pretty dishardened by seing the WP:WSS system used in this way, and I'll probably be better off, by not participating any more in this particular debate. However, I *am* very sad knowing just how many hours I've spent trying to sort out the -politician-stubs, since I fear people will now begin tearing that structure all to pieces. (Apparently, it doesn't matter that I created a structure by the book, and by consensus with the WP:WSS community.) Valentinian (talk) 00:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Your reversion
Your reversion was arbitrary. I was not moving material on international opposition to the bottom of the article but merely inserting a heading. Further, you removed information I have added referencing The Christian Science Monitor, a very respected Western publication. Unless you have a source stating that the Monitor article is incorrect, please stop removing referenced material from the article. 172 | Talk 22:20, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page. The top paragraph should not be describing him as an "alleged" dictator. His tyrannical regime is extremely well documented. Valentinian (talk) 22:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

There are references to the dictatorial regime in the first paragraph. The second sentence states, "his opponents, at home and abroad, accuse him of being dictatorial." I share your political point of view on Belarus. That being said, we have to avoid the temptation of advocacy, as Wikipedia's editorial position is supposed to be neutral. 172 | Talk 22:53, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


 * An encyclopedia has no value if it doesn't tell the truth. Or hides it away as "one interpretation". Should the article about Auschwitz state that "it is alleged that people were murdered here" simply because of David Irving? Of course not. I believe a Russian proverb states that you can't be half pregnant. Valentinian (talk) 23:00, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * My family was mostly wiped out in the Holocaust. I do not appreciate the Holocaust being used for hyperbole. At any rate, the sentence is correct. He is regarded by his opponents abroad as a dictator. If that description is so obviously correct, then readers can finish the rest of the article and make up their own minds. 172 | Talk 23:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, that was tactless. My apologies. My family was in the Danish resistance, and that's why I react strongly to violations of human rights everywhere. Too many good people died back then. Valentinian (talk) 23:20, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Regarding the comment on "his supporters argue ..." well, I'm sure that's what Belarus TV states. That station also insists that the Nazis still run Germany, and that the EU is preparing an invasion of Belarus. You *are* aware that the economy of Belarus has collapsed since the fall of the Soviet Union? The Lithuanian SSR was poorer than the BSSR before 1991, but today the reverse is the case. It is media propaganda. Valentinian (talk) 23:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Let's stick with finding well-referenced factual material. I am not interested in having a political discussion. 172 | Talk 23:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It is referenced that his rule is maked by no civil liberties. There is no freedom of assembly, no independent courts, and no free media. That's the most relevant aspect of that man. Valentinian (talk) 23:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed these facts are covered in great detail in the article. As for your comment-- "That's the most relevant aspect of that man."-- I agree with you. Still, that's a value judgment. I understand that you have very passionate feelings about the topic. That being said, the more passionate we are, thne more careful we must be to avoid letting our value jugments slip into our work. 172 | Talk 23:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that the topics are well covered later down in the article and I've no problems with that part, I'm only referring to the first paragraph. Yes, we should careful not to be carried away with topics we feel strongly about, but I'm still feeling that this version is too polite / neutral. The proper term for his rule can be debated, but his actions deserve to be mentioned for what they are. I plead guilty to the charge of caring about that country, even though it's almost ridiculous hoping for a better future for the people of Belarus. Human rights in Belarus are - as we Danes say it - "a town in Russia" (i.e. "something completely unknown"). One of my friends was interrogated by the KGB yesterday and deported today. In another case, three Danish youth politicians, one of whom I know, were held in the Minsk Airport all night under gunpoint waiting to be deported. And Westerners are treated better than the local people (sigh) Valentinian (talk) 23:45, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Your friends are doing heroic work. At any rate, Wikipeidia is not the place for anti-Lukashenko activism. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so the articles are supposed to be "polite / neutral." Moreover, other forms of activism against Lukashenko are probably much more effective; I doubt that Wikipeidia articles influence readers' political opinions much. 172 | Talk 02:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I never said that it was. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, yes, but it should be an accurate one. Apparenly we differ on what should be highlighted. Valentinian (talk)09:38, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

CatScan
This little beaut here. It has some significant limitations, and I'm working on something a little more general (only off-line for the time being), but it's pretty handy nonetheless. Alai 22:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Red Bjørnene (eller dræb dem)
Hello Valentian. As you vaguely proposed I have nominated the article Red Bjørnene for deletion. Please see Articles_for_deletion/Red_Bjørnene. Bertilvidet 18:57, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Good initiative. I've already cast my vote. (Bjørnebøf, nam nam). Valentinian (talk) 08:15, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

My user page
Thanks for reverting the vandalism. JoshuaZ 13:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Anytime :) Valentinian (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

thanks
thanks for doing so much work on cleaning out deprecated template parameters on the stargate articles.--  Alfakim  --  talk   13:52, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. It's no harder than stub sorting :) Valentinian (talk) 13:57, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Rabbi UngerAndRabbiRubin.jpg
Thanks for making me aware that no source was supplied for Image:Rabbi UngerAndRabbiRubin.jpg. This was my first image that I uploaded without knowing much about the process; but I rectified it now by writing clearly that I got the full permission to release this image under the GFDL license. Issac 21:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)


 * That's the license with the fewest problems, so a good solution. Valentinian (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Image:Crown.jpg
it looks like someone uploaded the crown image over the 2 children. Thanks for cleaning up my userbox for me, very thoughtful and much appreciated. No reply necessary. + +Lar: t/c 23:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia survey
Hi. I'm doing a survey of Wikipedia editors as part of a class research project. It's quick, anonymous, and the data will be made available to the Wikipedia community later this month. Would you like to take part? More info here. Thanks! Nonplus 01:33, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure. Valentinian (talk) 21:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Venstre
Thanks. I have all the liberal parties (in Denmark both) on my watchlist. I wasn't active in the infoboxes on parties and don't really like them. Electionworld = Wilfried (talk 20:44, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem. I'm not really sure if I like them or not. Perhaps if they'd been standardized in the first place, but it's probably too late not to fix that one. Valentinian (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Singular as in in compliance with WP:MOS, et. al. Give the plural a speedy-delete. If you think on it, wouldn't need an admin as any idiot editor could have done it as both, even me. Thanks, Fra nkB 01:58, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * re: (Helpme) ... Need a spelling/Type Move of eMagazines to eMagazine (singular, no redirect)


 * As you might have noted, yes, no article was located there, but the article is currently marked for merging. I - for one - think that Online magazine is more accurate than "eZine" or "eMagazine", both of which I simply consider slang. Hence I simply added a redirect. And btw, I don't like being called an idiot. Valentinian (talk) 09:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * eMagazine in a sentence is a construct that is far better than ezine, and certainly doesn't carry the inapplicable connotation of emailed eMagazine in the context I needed. It is better than the longer term Online Magazine carrying similar meaning that I redirected it to for several reasons but mostly for the intuitive link to the standard magazine. Like the standard magazine, these are some that can be bought off a magazine rack in ones or twos, without a formal subscription. Lastly, the language is mutable, one days slang is tomarrows stock term. Shrug. I've seen it hundreds of times in 51 years. The object term is hardly something I coined, and we here at Wikipedia can respond to changes in the vernacular far easier and faster than the printed media encyclopedias. We will no doubt in time have articles on the related ePublish(ing), ePublication, et. al., as they are clearly a growth industry. Best wishes: Fra nkB  16:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Fabartus, the problem was simply the "remark" you posted on another user's talkpage. Any comments about me should go *here*. This offended me and most people would feel that way. As I've said, I considered "online magazine" a better title than eZine or eMagazine, hence the edit I made. If you disagree, feel free to list the article on WP:RM. Regards. Valentinian (talk) 18:35, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've read the mail you sent me. Apparently you expressed yourself in a way not intended to offend me. Accepted. I'm not going to waste more time on this one. Valentinian (talk) 18:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

New municipal and regional emblems after 2007?
Hello Valentinian. I hope you are doing well on your wikibreak. Here's a question that you may be able to answer once you're done breaking. :)  // Big Adamsky •  BA's talk page 14:41, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi BA. Well, I think my computer was missing me :) and I've posted a reply on the article's talk page. Besides, I how could I turn down a question like this one? I've been interested in heraldry for around 20 years, so I'm glad to be of service. Best regards. Valentinian (talk) 20:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Wonderful! Would you happen to have any information on, or links to, the prospects of replacing the Swedish counties (län) with larger regions (≈riksområden)? If executed, such plans would be on par with recent development in Finland, England and Scotland, upcoming developments in Denmark, and ongoing debates in Norway. Also, do you think it likely that the Danish regions will never adopt any graphic logo at all? BigAdamsky | TALK | EDITS | 13:53, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * PS: Judging from your interest in heraldry, this userbox might be for you. =J
 * I don't know much about the Swedish reform (yet). I only know that there's been a debate about creating a single province for the former Danish territories; Skåne, Halland, and Blekinge, versus joining both Blekinge and Halland to Götland. But this debate was years ago, so I don't know about the current situation. But I'll take a look - in a few days time :) The Regions of Denmark will all adopt a logo (as you can see, I created the pages about them, and I've followed the counties and regions since I stood as a candidate for the County Council of Funen in 2001.) Basically, the issue is that the regions would prefer to adopt a coat of arms, since that would give them a more "official" / traditional look. Lars Løkke Rasmussen, the Minister of the Interior, however considers the Regions to be somewhat of a bastard child, and he personally supported simply abolishing the Counties, leaving all tasks to the State and the municipalities. Consequently, he opposes the Regions acquiring the symbols traditionally assiociated with a county / municipality. Many politicians are speculating that the regions' days are already numbered, and they expect that they'll only survive two terms (i.e. a total of eight years.) I think this analysis is correct. It would be great fun if one of the regions would defy him and adopt a coat or even a flag, but so far no such luck. Btw, it is extremely rare for a Danish municipality to have its own flag (a shame really), I only know of less than 5 examples. According to their webpages, the regions will all - eventually - adopt a logo (but no indication of a coat anywhere). When I see them, I'll add them to the relevant articles. Nordjylland has adopted a logo already.
 * PS: Thanks for the tip about the userbox. I've been thinking about adding a few more boxes. Valentinian (talk) 19:07, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Peter von Scholten
Thanks for going over Peter von Scholten. Perhaps you'll find Gabriel Milan interesting as well. :) Mikkel 11:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the hint. I'd never heard of him before. :) Valentinian (talk) 11:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)


 * My 9 times great grandfather. Quite a colorful character! Mikkel 12:25, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, so it seems. Finally, a Danish official different than the rest of the lot. Valentinian (talk) 12:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

New Jutland map requested
Hi there. You might be interested in this map request which I have just lodged with my favourite amateur cartographer here on WP. BigAdamsky | TALK | EDITS | 15:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I'd like your advice on this
At the risk of building a more friendly relationship...

What would you think about the wisdom of posting a discrete link to this notice at the very page top WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals, and how do you like the concept? Something in a box saying See this New Notice (Flashing lights and sirens wouldn't be enough as far as I can see!) Sigh! Back to content edits! Best wishes! Fra nkB 20:44, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Would this be something to post somewhere else. I'm flabergasted that no one has thought to link to parents this way, it would really ease proper categorization.


 * Good luck with them :) I've replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) 21:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

On the Above, More Egg
Thanks for the feedback -- you opened a whole new world, I apparently didn't get back to say that yesterday. However, today's SPAM is... (courtesy of one who didn't connect the suggested wording I listed with the obvious fact that the actual CAT page didn't read that way as I implied!)

Oops: I apparently didn't save the edit to the Category page... Here's the current note just posted:

I apparently never saved out on the edit I was recommending. It should have looked like This example or when polished for presentation and organization, the current: Category:History of Canada. Apparently too many open browser windows, or the like. Apologies Fra nkB 21:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Valentinian
Cross post fm my talkFra nkB
 * I'm a little lost with some of the esoterically fine points you're making on the Stub Sorting Project. Mostly it seems we have too many kinds, but I can see why autocategorizing things properly would be of use. Give me some feedback on whether Personal Computer Industry is clueless or not in that respect. Arrrghh! (See below NEWSFLASH!!!)
 * I'd thought I'd confessed -- ahhh, I did on the original talk posting -- that I was unsure of what made me post the idea there save perhaps the traffic the project page recieves (as I infer it). I think I'm just going to make similar edits to CAT pages and see how many monkeys come out of the woodwork and aid the effort.  If others find merit, they'll copy cat me, and it's not like it has any downside functional impact.  My larger concern in retrospect is the poor customer being stuck with the default skins and never seeing the category keys in the first place, nor knowing their power.  I may just jin up something on that for a strawpoll on the VP. <B>Fra</B> nkB  22:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


 * NEWSFLASH... User talk:Katefan0 (redlinked!!!) (Arrrghhghhh@!!!! Harumph! This guy has no %#$#*)&$$%$$#)&*... No respect for others time, I guess.)
 * ON User talk:Katefan0 : What's the deal-- I was just mobilizing an effort on this very new stub and you've deleted it per WHAT GUIDELINE?  Can't you read text? You also thereby create a redlink in a FAC article. Please undo your negligence. <B>Fra</B> nkB  22:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

If I can trouble you for a little feedback
You are cordially invited to pick on Frank: (Katefan0 too! <G>) re: Request some 'peer review' (Talkpage sections detailing concerns)] on new article: Arsenal of Democracy This post is being made Friday 14 April 2006 to a double handful (spam?) of admins & editors for some reactions, and advice (Peer Review) on this article, and it's remaining development, as I'd like to put it to bed ASAP. (Drop in's welcome too!) Your advice would be valuable and appreciated. Replies on talk link (above) indicated. Thanks! <B>Fra</B> nkB 18:21, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I've replied on the article talk page. Valentinian (talk) 23:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Great feedback- This was just the kind of thing I was thinking myself, but the whole idea just came out of the blue when I couldn't find a reference to the title. My search techniques need upgrading, as another managed better. ;( I think I'll have it moved off to a user page until I get an even larger project cleared, but that should wait until next weekend or so to give the other invitees and drop-ins a crack at it.
 * Still, the reaction mirrors the reservations I had, and many of the ideas are beyond my expectations.
 * Many Thanks! <B>Fra</B> nkB 04:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! Since you made such a mighty and valuable contribution therein (Hmmmm This may be YOUR FAULT!!! <G>), I'd be skirting churlish if you weren't consulted On This Mini-Debate. I see I raised the possibility above as well, so please share thoughts with me and Mel. Thanks! <B>Fra</B> nkB 16:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Merlinus Hi, I'm Merlinus: I don't want to seem stupid, but if I copied some sort of stub... it was unintentional... I can't figure exactly what happened and I new used that feature before. What I wanted to do was suggest a topic, but did not know how to include it myself so I was seeking assistance from you... Did I go to the wrong place? Re: Vandalism to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals Stop restoring your edit about a topic which has absolutely no relevance to the stub sorting page. Such edits are considered vandalism and not allowed by Wikipedia rules. Valentinian (talk) 22:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Merlinus" --merlinus 00:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)Merlinus--merlinus 00:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * I've replied on your talk page. It's pretty easy to add new material, so I've written a short guide there. Valentinian (talk) 08:11, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Oversættelse
A new style cover the thighs, and when the corset cover the thighs, the hip change position, and the waist become high, and of larger circumference than before. But the new style was uncomfortable, inconvenient and have need of pieces of elastic fabric.

En ny stil dækker lårerne, og da korsettet dækker lårerne, hoften~ ændring stilling, og taljen bliver højere, og af større omfang end før. Men den ny stil var ubehagelig, besværlig og har behov af stykker af elastisk stof.

Hvad er der galt med den engelske tekst?Håbet 14:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Jeg ville prøve med

"A new fashion covered the thighs. This corset changed the position of the hip, making the waist seem both longer and wider. The new fashion was considered uncomfortable, cumbersome, and furthermore required the use of strips of elastic fabric."

Håber det kan bruges. Vedr. elastikbåndet går jeg ud fra at der er tale om smalle stykker stof. Hvis der er tale om brede stykker, skal det fx være "ribbons" eller, nok bedre, "bands" of elastic fabric. Valentinian (talk) 14:33, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Tak skal du have! :-)Håbet 16:52, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Subdivision category debate
The original debate for renameing the country subdivision categories was closed and a new debate on the subject has now been listed. The results of the old debate are shown, but will not be counted when the current debate is closed. You are being notified because you were involved in the previous debate. If you still have an interest in the outcome, please come and participate in the new debate. - TexasAndroid 20:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Posted by (^'-')^ Covington 07:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC), on behalf of the the AID Maintenance Team

"D'oh!"
Yes, I realized that a while after starting the new section, after doing a job lot on the basis of double-stubbing (despite having also commented on the earlier section). I've no objections to merging the sections, if you think that would be helpful. My personal inclination would be to make the types as simple and inclusive as possible, until such time as they require further splitting on size, which to me is strongly suggestive of general china- types all 'round at present. Alai 00:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * As regards the actual work, the double-stubbed ones are easy to do via AWB. Given the earlier discussion, we could pretty much start anytime, I think:  I doubt Instant will throw up anything that would prevent us going ahead on that basis, though doubtless he'll be super-keen to split out the modern political entities as that becomes even-borderline-feasible.  Alai 00:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend it: main reason I ever bother booting up in Windows!  Only trouble is it somewhat spoils one for doing things said "Flintstone way";  if only people would systematically double-stub everything, I'd hardly have to make a manual edit ever again. :)  Alai 01:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I'm considering compiling a list of all the "un-double-stubbed" articles from the oversized people stub-types, and other similar cases that generally ought to be.  If we throw enough labour at the problem, we might make some sort of inroads into those 39-thousand-odd oversizeds.  Alai 01:21, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd definitely do it on a per-country (or otherwise per-category) basis: a single monolithic list would probably people sit down and weep sustainedly. Alai 01:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Here's the UK- and US-bio-stub offenders, for starters. Let me know if this list is in a useful and usable format: if it is, I'll also mention it on WSS;  if not, let me know and I'll re-generate it, or of course just edit it yourself. Alai 21:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Geo-stubs
Good work on the geo-stub splits! Looks like you, BL, and that Crazy Russian managed to do the lot between you! :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  02:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Piece of cake. :) Valentinian (talk) 16:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

List of Flags
I've reinstated the TRNC flag in the list of flags. Your rationale that it is not internationally recognized is not valid as other non-recognized and non-sovereign entities are listed, such as Sealand, Somaliland, British colonies and dependencies, Taiwan, etc. It has to be all of them, or none of them. Besides, TRNC is recognized by one country. Somaliland isn't recognized by any.

Expatkiwi


 * Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) 16:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Jutland
Thanks about the map, I fixed some of the things you mentioned but because I tried to keep it to Big Adamsky's definition I am not sure if the islands and other areas should be coloured differently, see my reply on Talk:Jutland. I found some good maps of denmark through google image search Could the current map on Hedeby be modified, rather than being replaced? --Astrokey44 05:53, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) 16:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Ok maybe later I will look into this Hedeby map, but for now I changed the Danevirke on the Jutland map - I had previously thought it met up with the Eider because of Adamsky's comment that one of the southern boundaries should be "a line following the Eider River and the Danevirke defensive wall". But if it meets the coast north of the Eiderstedt peninsula this means it does not meet the Eider river? Could you tell me if the new position is right? Regards, --Astrokey44 00:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * This version is correct. (Replied on your talk page.) Valentinian (talk) 00:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks alot! :) I see you fixed Nordstrand already. I had thought it was a peninsula of Jutland because my atlas shows it connected to the mainland. I thought it could go in the article now, is the caption ok? --Astrokey44 03:21, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

KU

 * Hej Valentinian. Ja, jeg er David Pontoppidan :-)

Jeg er ny på Wiki så håber dette er den korrekte måde at svare på.

Tak for din e-mail. Jeg har ændret i teksten, men må dog samtidig påpege at det ikke er et problem at jeg bruger copyrightede KU-informationer om KU's historie på Wiki. Jeg er formand i København.

Med venlig hilsen,

Pontoppidan 09:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC) Pontoppidan


 * I've replied on your talk page. Valentinian (talk) 11:11, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Hej Valentinian!

Tak for din information. Det er rart at vide - WIKI er et fedt sted, men lidt forvirrende. Jeg arbejder trofast videre ;-)

Mange hilsener,

Pontoppidan

Hej Valentinian!

Jeg har flere gange forsøgt at rette, fejlen under KU.. Der står fejlagtigt oplyst at David Pontoppidan skulle være formand for KU i København! Dette er en løgn, da han kun er medlem af foreningen! Jeg kan fortælle at Allan Guldberg er formand i foreningen, og har været det de seneste 2 år! Så venligst lad være med at blocke mig, når jeg korregere fakta!

Mvh Jonas Svendsen


 * Og du "rettede fejlen" ved at udskifte hans navn med 117 andre tilfældigt valgte og skrive at han ikke består et eller andet? Hvor dum tror du at jeg er? Valentinian (talk) 20:24, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hej V!

Jeg har rettet det til det korrekte, som er Kian Schmücker! Dette står også på KUs hjemmeside http://www.konservativungdom.dk/index.php?id=56&rg=2&f=58, så nu må vi hellere holde os til fakta, OK!?

Mvh Søren Jensen


 * Jeg er temmelig træt af det her fis, så derfor har jeg fjernet hele listen. Så er det problem nemlig løst. Det er i tider som denne jeg er stolt over at være Venstremand. Valentinian (talk) 21:20, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Og i øvrigt siger KU Københavns hjemmeside at Schmücker var formand i 2005. Nu er det ikke jordens største hemmelighed at generalforsamlinger altid afholdes om foråret. Sjovt nok siger Pontoppidans egen hjemmeside at han er valgt til ny formand i år. http://www.kukoebenhavn.dk/ siger også at han er formand. Tag jeres fløjkrig et andet sted hen. Valentinian (talk) 21:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Viking ring castles
Hi!

I've been working on the german articles to this subject und just wrote the english one for Fyrkat. I have tried to make a table of the language versions here de:Benutzer:T.woelk/Wikinger. Not really pretty but at least the top eight rows or so might be of interest to you.

Being from Odense couldn't you add more dates to Nonnebakken? Something like when the nuns built their Abbey, what became of it and about the structures of the 19th century. What does the place look like today? Are there any finds in a museum? I have found different dimensions for the longhouses in Fyrkat, is there any recent publication on this in Denmark? Soon I will translate some of the Fyrkat stuff back to german and add it to the german de:Fyrkat article. How about defining a generall layout and adjusting all related articles to that. What we could use would be a generall map showing the whereabouts of all six sites as well as sketches of each layout.

And last but not least: any chance of getting a danish da:Langhus article started, with lots of info from Vorbasse? And now of to seeding more interest for this in the dutch wp ... anybody fluent enough in french to start stubs there ;-).......... T.woelk 11:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Greetings.
 * I'm afraid I'm not the best authority on the Viking era - I study contemporary history - but I'll put it on my to-do list: I should be able to dig up a few more details on Nonnebakken. I've never heard of any good finds from it. If they exist, they must be in located in either Møntergården (a local museum) or in the national museum in Copenhagen. I honestly can't remember the display in Møntergården, since must have been 15 years since I visited last time. The problem is pretty much that the site was mostly destroyed when the Masons' lodge was constructed (the workmen probably didn't have a clue about what they were digging through.) Unfortunately, I'm pretty busy for the next week or so, so it'll have to wait a bit. But this material should definitely be improved. I've just glanced your article on Fyrkat, and it looks like a good piece of work :) One of my friends loves using his camera, so I might be able to persuade him to take a few shots of the area.


 * I did a little search of the local university's collection and two books might be of interest to you:
 * Kronborg Christensen, John, "Vikingetidens langhuse på Trelleborg, Aggersborg, Fyrkat og Nonnebakken", København:Kunstakademiets Arkitektskole, 1973 (83 pages) and
 * Thrane, Henrik: "Nonnebakken. Odenses forsvundne vikingeborg", 3rd revised ed., Odense: Fyens Stiftsmuseum, 1987 (28 pages). I'll try to find a copy of both of them. Regards.  Valentinian (talk) 19:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Look Ma, no stubs
Hi, I've been contributing to Wikipedia for sometime now, but i really dont understand what stubs are for? Can you explain it to me in 2-3 sentences... i dont want a link to a page!

Thanks, Shijaz 18:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

It sometimes works to start articles. - Somebody starts with a sentence, others add another and in the end we have an article.


 * ( DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DONT WANT EXAMPLES!
 * It worked on the german Fyrkat article, I started the malaysian Rumah panjang article with two sentences and the rest through english in the discussion page.)

Of course it doesn't always work but I think it's a way of attracting attention that quite often leads to some nice articles. Sometimes it's usefull to layout a set of related articles with stubs to keep the naming within a planned system. - Ok and sometimes they just sit there for years and starve for information. (weep) So whenever you find one - feed it; best way to get rid of them imo. --T.woelk 19:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Replied on Shijaz' talk page. Valentinian (talk) 20:46, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Re:Angola-geo-stub
Thanks for that. I'll be proposing the countries that have reached 65 once I finish counting the struct-stubs (probably later today or towmorrow). BTW, if you update my count page, could you also make any changes to the "50 or more stubs" list at the top? I quite often go through that list looking to see if I can find the one or two emaining stubs to push some of those countries over the threshold, so it's worth knowing which ones are close to 65. Thanks again :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  05:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll do that next time :) Valentinian (talk) 07:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)==

The reason I suggested using Category:Stub categories
Valentinian: I had edited the Procedures instruction for proposing a new stub to include an instruction to first check in Category:Stub categories and see if the proposed stub already existed. You then changed my edit by changing from Category:Stub categories to WP:WSS/ST.

The reason I didn't suggest WP:WSS/ST is that it doesn't seem to be as complete as Category:Stub categories. For example, WP:WSS/ST does not include the Engineering stub ... whereas Category:Stub categories does include it. So I still think that my original suggestion is better. What do you think? - mbeychok 04:18, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm pretty fine with both possibilities. WP:WSS/ST is more easy to read, but if it doesn't cover everything (yet) you have a point. I should probably go through it one of the days. --Valentinian (talk) 04:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Catagories by User 195.93.60.74 & 195.93.60.72
Hi Valentinian,

Just wanted to bring to your attention this user 195.93.60.74 &  195.93.60.72, who more then likely are the same person, has been categorizing numerous articles of people under the Albanian category when there is no source which proves these claims as being true. Some of the sites this person has been targeting: Rita Wilson (under the user id:195.93.60.1), George Tenet, Alan Shepard, Connie Francis, William G. Gregory, and Ty Treadway. As well as adding Sandra Bullock, John Cena, Kemal Atatürk and Benito Mussolini to name a few, to the List of Albanians article without sources to back up such claims.  The claim is that some are of "Arberesh" (Albanian-Italian) origins but there are no legit sources to back up these claims. As for Rita Wilson she basically said it herself: "My mother is Greek and my father is Bulgarian." , she doesn't mention Albanian anywhere, and as far as George Tenet goes, "Vorioipirotes understand Cypriots, believe me, they understand pain and suffering". Vorioipirotes is the Greek term for Epirotis from Northern Epirus, that's the term used by Greeks when they talk about the Greek Epirotis from Southern Albania, the region that most Greeks view as an "occupied" area. Tenet would not be referring to Southern Albania as "Vorioipiros" if he was "Albanian". So I have no clue as to what this person is talking about, unless he/she thinks that just because a person's family came from a region of the world that is now a different country it makes that person automatically a member of that modern country and if that's the case, heck Greece should claim Kemal Atatürk after all he was born in Thessaloniki. LoL!! Much appreciate any help you can give, I've tried to keep an eye on the articles and correct them but this is getting out of hand. Just kidding about claiming Ataturk by the way, although he is being claimed as "Albanian": List of Albanians. Thank you very much. ;) ~Mallaccaos, 4 May 2006
 * I've never been a fan of grouping people by ethnicity. Citizenship is far easier to go with. Valentinian (talk) 20:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)