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Administrators' newsletter – December 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019). Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Beeblebrox
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Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Evad37

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
 * Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news
 * Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration
 * Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous
 * The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:48, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Did you know
Hi, your addition does come across as a content issue, not a format issue. It contradicts the preceding instructions and belongs under instructions for prep builders, not for nominators. Personally I don't think it's even necessary to mention. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:44, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The reason I mention it is that we had a recent argument that shorter is always preferred over longer. I'm open to any solution that keeps someone from arguing, and supporting that argument with policy written twelve years ago before we put in the 200-character limit, and thereby causing long discussions requiring consensus for each individual case. --valereee (talk) 13:48, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Since this section is for hook writers, not prep builders, you could write something like:
 * The hook should be concise. The character count (including spaces and the question mark, but not including the or any   should not exceed 200 characters. In general, shorter, punchy hooks are preferable to long, narrative hooks that tell the reader everything they need to know about the subject. The objective is to "hook" the reader into clicking on the article.
 * It seems to me this should not be changed without an RfC. Yoninah (talk) 23:53, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , I did ask this specific question at DYK talk. I didn't head it as an RfC, but I can ask it again and do that? --valereee (talk) 12:41, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, thanks. Yoninah (talk) 12:44, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

1886 St. Croix river log jam
Hi Valereee, I wrote about something quite American, and would like to have some more American eyes on it so I haven't left in some British (or German) nonsense (haven't lived in the US for quite a while now). I'd be happy to see if you have any comments (or better DYK hooks, I'm not good with those). Happy editing —Kusma (t·c) 11:28, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

ARCA Comments
Hi Valereee. I moved your comment to your section as a clerk action. Please remember to only edit your section. --In actu (Guerillero) &#124; My Talk  20:33, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , oh, hell, sorry. I'm terrible at this. Thank you! --valereee (talk) 20:37, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for attention
Today, I think of Hevrin Khalaf and protest, and an image was found. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * , Oh, I'm glad we found another image! ----valereee (talk) 22:41, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Look at the images here, . Seen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , sorry, not enough coffee yet -- what am I looking for? --valereee (talk) 14:30, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * images (traveling) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:53, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thanks, ! It's always great to hear that something you've said made sense to at least one other person! :D --valereee (talk) 14:48, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Online Music Magazin
Hi Valereee, I saw that didn't receive a response on the reliable sources noticeboard before it was archived. It looks marginally reliable to me, considering the publication's small editorial team and use of freelancers, but I'm not knowledgeable enough about the topic to give a confident answer.

For music-related sources like this one, you might be interested in asking the editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums, since that project maintains the album sources list at WikiProject Albums/Sources (WP:A/S). Hope this helps! —  Newslinger  talk   13:01, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , thanks! Well, at least it's now in the archives that someone has asked about it. Good idea re: wp albums/sources, I'll try that! --valereee (talk) 14:49, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Comments
Hi, Thanks for all your help and reply on In_the_news/Candidates. I find comments by Laserlegs, have similarities to a rant. What is he even saying after "Agree all you want" ? -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:23, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'm trying to assume good faith, but my first reaction to the statement that 'these ESL article ALWAYS have questionable grammar and require constant attention while on the main page' was that it could be perceived as bigotry. --valereee (talk) 14:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was able to understand that last part. but " ?? that was some cryptic language being used there, I am not bothered to ask him what he actually meant, for fear of more such unpleasant comments, which I would rather avoid, So I asked you.-- D Big X ray ᗙ  14:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , to me it seemed like they were making the assumption that supporters hadn't read the article but instead were supporting because of ulterior motives? Not sure. Clearly I've read the article, so I took exception to that, lol. --valereee (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * yes, looks like that's the possible explanation. Thanks for trying. regards.  D Big X ray ᗙ  17:03, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Delhi Fire
Hi, can you please help in copy editing In_the_news/Candidates. thx-- D Big X ray ᗙ  18:45, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: November 2019
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WiG 2019 Goals
Hi, I saw you added yourself as a member to Women in Green and added one of your recent GAs to the recent sucesses. Do you want to add that GA to part two of the 2019 goals page as well? Sportsfan77777 (talk) 20:59, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'd like to, but when I started to it looked like it might be transcluded, so I thought I'd better take a more careful look at it! --valereee (talk) 00:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , it's not, it's just a normal page. If you click edit on "Goal #2: Wildcard category", it should work! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 14:21, 19 December 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter December 2019


This year's Reviewer of the Year is. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
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Special commendation again goes to who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to and  who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.

Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.

Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.

(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)

A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by.
 * Redirect autopatrol

Set to launch early in the new year is our first New Page Patrol Source Guide discussion. These discussions are designed to solicit input on sources in places and topic areas that might otherwise be harder for reviewers to evaluate. The hope is that this will allow us to improve the accuracy of our patrols for articles using these sources (and/or give us places to perform a WP:BEFORE prior to nominating for deletion). Please watch the New Page Patrol talk page for more information.
 * Source Guide Discussion

While New Page Reviewers are an experienced set of editors, we all benefit from an occasional review. This month consider refreshing yourself on Notability (geographic features). Also consider how we can take the time for quality in this area. For instance, sources to verify human settlements, which are presumed notable, can often be found in seconds. This lets us avoid the (ugly) 'Needs more refs' tag. Delivered by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 16:11, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
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Happy Holidays
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Valereee: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers,  D Big X ray ᗙ Happy Holidays!  17:58, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


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Hi, are you there?
Could you change the DYK update times to a 12-hour schedule? The first December 25 just went live. Yoninah (talk) 00:22, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * , sorry, I don't know how! Don't even know where. I'll watch how it's done this time so I can do it next time! --valereee (talk) 00:43, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, drat. once mentioned where the page is, and I can't find it. It's a simple edit of the numbers on that page. I'll keep looking. Yoninah (talk) 00:47, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * If you find it, ping me. I'll likely be up early, have to start cooking again at 7 Eastern. --valereee (talk) 00:49, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I just can't find it. Hopefully another admin will manually update at 12:00 tomorrow. Do you have time to move a prep set into the queue so we can start filling a new set? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:53, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It's not the move, it's the check I don't have time for -- I still have the last four hooks/articles of Queue 6 to check, am going to try to fit that in tomorrow before the rest of the family wakes up. --valereee (talk) 01:05, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Merry Christmas! Yoninah (talk) 01:10, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ugh, and the next one has ten articles to check, and already I can see the credits aren't in the right order which likely means at least one inexperienced prep setter, which means closer checking. I'm sorry, probably not tonight. --valereee (talk) 01:11, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And Happy Chanukah! --valereee (talk) 01:12, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved the next one, crossing my fingers I get some time in the next 36 hours lol --valereee (talk) 01:36, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Good luck
 豊かな十年へようこそ/WELCOME TO THE D20s Miraclepine wishes you a Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year, and a prosperous decade of change and fortune. このミラPはValereeeたちのメリークリスマスも新年も変革と幸運の豊かな十年をおめでとうございます！ フレフレ、みんなの未来！/GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FUTURE! ミラP 03:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
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Change to DYK blurb
Can I ask why you changed my DYK blurb for Donald Mackintosh (shooter)? The reviewer and promoter didn't have any objections to it, a heads-up would have been nice before it ran on the main page. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 14:33, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry,, I thought about posting a query at DYK talk as I was checking that set, as I usually do so before making anything that seems like a significant change, but this seemed so clearly more-correct per both the article and the sources (that he didn't win it but was posthumously awarded it) that I decided not to ping people to DYK talk on Christmas Day when I wasn't even sure whether I'd be able to get back before it ran to make what seemed like a clear improvement. It felt nitpicky to me to object to it rather than just fix it. Apparently I misread what I thought would be clear to all; what about the change did you object to? To me it seemed clearly more accurate, to the point that the original hook seemed unintentionally misleading, almost. --valereee (talk) 15:20, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

DYK
Hi Valereee, hope you had a good Christmas. Noticed you user page says you are on vacation, I've pinged you on the DYK talk page and if you could reply when you get the time I would really appreciate it, thank you Steven (Editor) (talk) 00:41, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, limited time for WP is being used on other stuff, it looks like other folks are handling your request over at WT:DYK --valereee (talk) 01:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I see, I thought you may be interested as you had provided some previous comments in the discussion. But that's ok, thanks anyway Steven (Editor) (talk) 01:26, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Dog article
The article was in Category:Good articles without topic parameter because the former topic was invalid (not recognized). I fixed it. Outriggr (talk) 06:29, 1 January 2020 (UTC) And it appears that animal breeds and individuals are listed under Natural Sciences. "Society...." makes sense too. Outriggr (talk) 06:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year!


Valereee, Have a great 2020 and thanks for your continued contributions to Wikipedia.

– 2020 is a leap year   – news article. – Background color is Classic Blue (#0F4C81), Pantone's 2020 Color of the year Send New Year cheer by adding     to user talk pages.

– Utopes (talk) 09:10, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Rhetoric
We have got an user, who seem to have a longstanding pattern of using rhetorical edit summaries, often transgressing into personal attacks. Some words from an admin might be needed, in that my template-warning did not work out, as apparent from the continuation over here. Please deal in a manner, as you deem fit :) &#x222F; WBG converse 16:53, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I see they removed your warning, so I left one, too, and I'll keep the user talk on my watch list. --valereee (talk) 17:09, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Valereee!


Happy New Year! Valereee, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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Sources needed for Days of the Year pages
You're probably not aware of this change, but Days of the Year pages now require direct sources for additions. For details see the content guideline, the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide or the edit notice on any DOY page. Almost all new additions without references are now being reverted on-sight but I've gone ahead and added one for the death of James Beard.

Please do not add new additions to these pages without direct sources as the burden to provide them is on the editor who adds or restores material to these pages.

Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 18:08, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , no, I didn't, thank you for the fix and sorry for causing you work! --valereee (talk) 18:43, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And, duh...I can't believe I didn't read that edit notice, it's clear as day! I was hurrying! My bad! --valereee (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Dreamy Jazz • Newslinger • Rosguill
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Deor • Spartaz • Xeno
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Angusmclellan • clpo13 • Edgar181 • Matthewedwards • NCurse

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Bradv • Casliber • David Fuchs • Maxim • Newyorkbrad • SoWhy • Xeno

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Bradv • Casliber • DGG • David Fuchs • Maxim • Newyorkbrad • SoWhy • Xeno
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Someguy1221

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
 * A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
 * Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.

Arbitration
 * The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
 * Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee:, , , , , , , , , ,.

Miscellaneous
 * This issue marks three full years of the Admin newsletter. Thanks for reading!

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Queue 4: Historic spring
Hi, I know things are moving rapidly on a 2-a-day schedule, but there's a discussion about the last hook in this set (Fountain of the Pear Tree Canals) over at WT:DYK and the hook needs to be rewritten. Would you mind swapping it with Rumcajs in Prep 1 so we can work on it? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:09, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yoninah (talk) 17:58, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! --valereee (talk) 18:12, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:28, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: December 2019
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DYK for Makiyakinabe
--valereee (talk) 12:01, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Observations
Hi, valereee. I noticed that you encountered some opposition at WP:ERRORS, and I just wanted to drop by to tell you that, as I see it, you did everything perfectly right. You temporarily added a compromise image so the DYK section wouldn't look so... uh... naked without a picture while the discussion was ongoing, you offered up an alternative compromise for people to peruse, and ultimately restored the original image when you determined that there was consensus to do so. Thank you for this, and all of your thoughtful and conscientious work on DYK. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:31, 15 January 2020 (UTC)


 * , thanks! I felt like it was a reasonable progression, too. I think the objection to the compromise image was simply that once there was some image there, people might stop discussing or find the issue less urgent, but I didn't want to just revert without figuring out what was going on, as the editor who removed the image is a respected contributor and I don't think they'd have removed it for no reason. --valereee (talk) 12:12, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And, if the image license issue is resolved, we may have to go through this all over again with the full frontal (and rear) nudity in this nom! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , lol...let's hope no one objects to that! But there's an upcoming PotD that likely will have some discussion. --valereee (talk) 12:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Cinci Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon
Hi Valereee! Hope you're doing well. I wanted to follow up on the Cincinnati Art+Feminism edit-a-thon that took place in December; I've included a line item about it in January's Ohio Wikimedians newsletter. If you have more details and stats about the outcomes of the event, it would be great to include them. Thank you! ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 00:24, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, ! I'll try to figure out what might be worth adding! It was my first edit-a-thon and the organizer had no WP experience, so I was mostly focussed on training. --valereee (talk) 00:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thank you! ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 00:37, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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Ohio Wikimedians User Group: January 2020 newsletter


Upcoming and Ongoing Events
 * Cleveland Museum of Art Open Access Anniversary Campaign — January 23rd (today!) is the one-year anniversary of the Cleveland Museum of Art's Open Access program. To celebrate, we are hosting an editing campaign (with postcard souvenirs!) from now through February 9. Help expand and create articles related to the Cleveland Museum of Art (including artists and artworks featured in their collection), and receive a postcard from the Museum. If you'd like to participate, check out the task list and sign up on the event page.

Recent Events
 * In December, the Cincinnati Art Museum hosted an Art+Feminism edit-a-thon. The museum was an excellent place to have an edit-a-thon, with a café and staff who were helpful in setting up and ensuring there were enough tables, outlets, and plenty of resource materials available. There was a related exhibit, Women Breaking Boundaries, that was of interest to attendees. In total, 9 people attended.

Movement Strategy
 * The Movement Strategy document, with 13 recommendations, has been released and is located here. You may utilize each recommendation's respective talk page to leave any feedback you might have.
 * Between February and March 2020, the recommendations will be finalized, incorporating final feedback. By the end of March 2020, the recommendations are slated to be approved by the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees.
 * Kevin (SuperHamster) will be attending Wikimedia Summit 2020 on behalf of the Ohio Wikimedians. This year's Summit will be focusing on discussing the implementation of the finalized Movement Strategy recommendations. Please get in touch with Kevin if you have ideas and suggestions that you would like conveyed.


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On behalf of the Ohio Wikimedians User Group, ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 08:45, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Mike Resnick
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Mike Resnick has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, ! --valereee (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2020 (UTC)