User talk:Valery Surkoff

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Also please do not delete other people's comments when answering: it makes unclear what caused your reply. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:07, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Second warning
Please do not revert cleanup tags from articles without fixing the problem indicated. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Third warning
One more revert of cleanup tag and you will be blocked from editing. 18:10, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Conflict of interest
You appear to have a conflict of interest related to the article Dmitry Polyakov. Per our policy about conflict of interest please disclose your relation to Dmitry Polyakov. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Warning
Please answer the question, or you will be barred from editing the article. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
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Help me!
Please help me with...

Valery Surkoff (talk) 18:38, 11 May 2016 (UTC) Dear friends! I ask you to help resolve the problem. I created a page dedicated to a musician Dmitry Polyakov which was established with compliance with all requirements. SwisterTwister checked this page, he is - new page patroller. But User Staszek Lem began doubt this page. He began writing the threats and warnings to doubt this page. Please help to solve the problem for getting rid of the attacks of this user.

Here is his (Staszek Lem) arguments: "Please don't add numerous youtube links into wikipedia articles. This is not done in wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a directory. Please add encycliopedic information. Please add references to information you added, otherwise it may be deleted at any time. Please read English wikipedia policies WP:CITE, WP:RS. Staszek Lem (talk) 03:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Please read the rules: Wikipedia is not a directory - Watch the last paragraph: "Lists of creative works in a wider context are permitted." - Not words about not allowed video links. User:Valery Surkoff

These are not creative works of Polyakov. These are his performances or works of other composers. In addition, pleas explain what is copyright status of the youtube videos? Linking to copyright violations is not permitted in wikipedia. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Performing art also is the creativity. This fact know all musicians. For example: sections dedicated to the great composers have direct links to audio files and it is not considered a violation. Youtube channel of Dmitry Polyakov does not violate anyone's rights. All rights these recordings have this conductor. If you do not have evidence of copyright infringement please do not start a discussion about it - it's not professional. User:Valery_Surkoff —Preceding undated comment added 22:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

Copyrights: You got it vice versa. Generally we don't trust youtube that their videos with correct copyright. We see zillions of pirated american movies uploaded by Russians. Once again, let me make it clear. Yes, I may agree that the conductor has the copyrights. The question related to youtube is whether the uploader of the videos has the permission from the copyright owner. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC) Creativity: Once again, great composers are authors of their works. Conductors and random musicians from chamber orchestra are not. Staszek Lem (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)"

Valery Surkoff (talk) 18:38, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * This issue should be resolved on the talk page of the article, Talk:Dmitry Polyakov, where it's currently discussed. The gist of it is that is right. And please, don't call differing opinions "attacks", as such language might be confused for claiming that the other user has resorted to a personal attack. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:26, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll do my best to explain some things. First off, excessive amounts of external links are unnecessary. Providing a YouTube link to every one of his videos is not proper. There is a link to his channel in the "External links" section, and that is sufficient. The other issue is removing cleanup tags. Unless you have actually fixed the issues mentioned in the tag, then it should stay on the page. Now, I don't know your relationship to Polyakov, but if you have no direct relationship then it is fine to remove the Conflict of Interest tag. Of course, if you are somehow directly connected to him, you need to disclose that on your userpage (and keep the COI tag on the article).
 * Regardless of who is right (as mentioned in a section below), starting an edit war with someone is inappropriate. You should discuss all controversial changes on the article's talk page in order to come to a consensus.
 * Finally, please make sure to sign all your posts with ~ so other editors can easily tell who said what. If you want more help, stop by the Teahouse, Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 19:32, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Dmitry Polyakov. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 19:12, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Removal of PROD tag
Hello, I should mention that, unless you fix the referencing issues on the PROD tag I added to Dmitry Polyakov, it should remain on the page. Simply removing the tag because you don't like it is not acceptable. Primefac (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, per WP:DEPROD it should not be returned. Please proceed to using the next step in the deletion process (speedy or AfD as applicable) instead. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:48, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you are correct. Silly rule, but I shall comply. Primefac (talk) 19:50, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

For what you want delete the Dmitry Polyakov's page. You don't like Tchaikovsky or Brahms of maybe Mozart? This page has enough links for confirm this musician and this information and rules not forbid links in section after biography. I call on to peace my friends. User:Valery Surkoff
 * I do like classical music, but we have rules and guidelines about who can be on Wikipedia. At the moment Polyakov doesn't meet those requirements. As for external links, I have said multiple times that excessive lists of external links (such as the one in the "Works" section) fail, based on the "Links in lists" section of WP:ELINK. A link to his YouTube channel is more than sufficient for linking to his concert recordings. Continually reverting changes just because you don't like them will only serve to get you blocked from editing. Please discuss these sorts of issues on the Talk page instead of undoing other's changes constantly. Primefac (talk) 20:15, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Dmitry Polyakov for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dmitry Polyakov is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Dmitry Polyakov until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Primefac (talk) 19:58, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 20:05, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Dmitry Polyakov conductor
I am not able to find any secondary sources on the conductor, what you need to do is add secondary sources such as news sources magazine with no vested interest giving extensive coverage to the person. You made add Russian sources also the article looks promotional the images you added are inappropriate. Valoem  talk   contrib  20:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Dear users! Article already has dozens of independent references.Valery Surkoff (talk) 11:10, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with Dmitry Polyakov. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. GABHello! 20:39, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I disagree with you because you just delete the page. But I doubt that you are sufficiently acquainted with the musician to question it. If you are asked to add information - it would be fair, and you simply remove - it's not fair. valery surkoff

Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion pages, as you did with Dmitry Polyakov. Doing so won't stop the discussion from taking place. You are, however, welcome to comment about the proposed deletion on the appropriate page. ''I have no opinion as of yet about the article, but please do not remove these tags. Whether I am "sufficiently acquainted with the musician to question it" is not really the issue.'' GABHello! 20:59, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

Edit warring at Dmitry Polyakov
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring, as you did at Dmitry Polyakov. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. The full report is at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:31, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You were blocked for merely 24 hours. Surely "fill[ing] the pages of the new information" is not such an urgent task that you should be unblocked in the meantime. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 07:52, 12 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You will be having troubles with filling wikipedia with new information until you start respecting our guidelines and community. For example, you have been told not less that 5 times by different users how to sign your posts by typing 4 tildes. This guideline is for a reason. Now, please re-read the section and follow the advises given there, as well as what other, more experienced wikipedians, are telling you. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:45, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear user "Staszek Lem" there are no "YOUR" rules. There are general rules and general principles. Do not separate me from other users and do not create the illusion that you are separate command. I have the same rights as everybody else. Dear admins please pay attention to the user phrase "...I am sorry that Putin's Russia is full of anti-American paranoia." Staszek Lem (talk) - look here: [] 23:06, 11 May 2016 (UTC)":After that, it is clear who the user is "Staszek Lem" and how he is guided by the principles - Russophobia. You opened its true face. You do not cause any respect. --Valery Surkoff (talk) 21:09, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Huh? Where am I speaking about "MY" rules? Yes you have the same rights, but it seems that your interpretation of these rights is mistaken. let me remind you a Russian proverb about 'chuzhoj monastir so svoim ustavom'. Until you learn how to enjoy your rights without fighting others, you will be in a separate command. I understand that I am your enemy #1 now and you are deaf to my advise, so I am no longer writing here. Staszek Lem (talk) 00:14, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually I don't even think about you. I created a page about the musician. Important for me kind deeds. What is your nationality? Does't interest me nationality unlike you. "Chuzhoj monastir?". You are CHUZHIE? There are yours and ours? Who are you and who we are? Wake up - it's Wikipedia not politics.--Valery Surkoff (talk) 06:54, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, your addition of one or more external links to the page Dmitry Polyakov has been reverted. Your edit here to Dmitry Polyakov was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to remove links which are discouraged per our external links guideline. The external link(s) you added or changed (Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-XREczPsi0, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP8rAOHHng, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri-2oUvZaCU, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeMkT-EzBQA, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWn2Lpsh4TA, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3oEtxU2094, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LOadXQD3lU, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpn0dO9DG4, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odDhXtrWs1g, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhFb4eWk1VA, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmEb7TOVgYs, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQHmvzK_Xo8, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJb_lqsxNVI, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58GTe4rxlTg, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64dv6lPB9Ms, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thnDPQBW3R4, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TZu6Kbbv4w, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEYdtdBK2IY, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMoeKUHVjRs, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-Hs1tc3_Us, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4QweAmfGKM, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk-9G3y9tZ0, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eehRC3Yl70c, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6M5pVvRSM, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE9V0vblAn8, Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAYnXwF9gjM) is/are on my list of links to remove and probably shouldn't be included in Wikipedia. If the external link you inserted or changed was to a media file (e.g. a sound or video file) on an external server, then note that linking to such files may be subject to Wikipedia's copyright policy, as well as other parts of our external links guideline. If the information you linked to is indeed in violation of copyright, then such information should not be linked to. Please consider using our upload facility to upload a suitable media file, or consider linking to the original. If you were trying to insert an external link that does comply with our policies and guidelines, then please accept my creator's apologies and feel free to undo the bot's revert. However, if the link does not comply with our policies and guidelines, but your edit included other, constructive, changes to the article, feel free to make those changes again without re-adding the link. Please read Wikipedia's external links guideline for more information, and consult my list of frequently-reverted sites. For more information about me, see my FAQ page. Thanks! --XLinkBot (talk) 05:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for edit warring, as you did at Dmitry Polyakov. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:51, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * You continued edit warring on the same article as soon as the previous edit warring block expired — yes, the block that you appealed saying "I do not want to continue the war." If you want to continue editing Wikipedia, please take the time to read the policies you have been linked to. Also, if you continue to post nationalist insults against other users, you may be blocked for that: personal attacks are not allowed here. By the way, your accusation of conspiracy at the edit warring noticeboard is absurd as far as I can see. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:55, 13 May 2016 (UTC).
 * I have been blocked for 24 hours for editing the war. What do you mean - I continue? Give this fact! This is none other than the re-blocking for the same reason. What's the point?--Valery Surkoff (talk) 11:22, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Bishonen thanks for that- was just about to advise him on the inadvisability of his action! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  11:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Just simple question to you: Did you read above User:Staszek Lem's massege? This user said in my address things connected with nationality? Or do you think these messages about Putin's Russia is not nationalism?--(talk) 11:11, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid it was completely unsourced which is a big no-no here, especially for biographies of lving people. Cheers, Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  12:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Message to all
Dear friends! OK! I accept your remarks and I am a new. I do not know much rules. I read a lot and learned a lot. Now the main thing for me is to keep from cruel edit page Dmitry Polyakov. Who removed completely biography? I have a desire to stop all of this and no longer be in Wikipedia. I hope that you will hear me and help retain article. The article is not about bad theories or bad people. Article about the musician - a good musician!--Valery Surkoff (talk) 16:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you have any connection with this good musician, since you are so interested in publicizing how good he is on the English Wikipedia? By "connection" I mean for instance if you are this person, or if they are a member of your family, a friend, a client, an employer. Please see Conflict of interest. Conflict-of-interest editing is strongly discouraged. Bishonen &#124; talk 17:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC).
 * I have no connection with this person. I understood that I could not anything prove to you. You are not interested in article and the person, you are interested various conflicts of interest. I asked a simple question: the complete removal of the biography - is that correct? Why are you not interested the person who mercilessly delete information? Valery Surkoff (talk) 18:04, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Didn't you notice your question was answered above? Answered correctly, I should add. Bishonen &#124; talk 18:14, 13 May 2016 (UTC).
 * Sorry, but I don't understand what it mean: "completely unsourced" and "a big no-no" - it is something like jokes or mockeries))). The key word of that user is - Сheers.)))--Valery Surkoff (talk) 18:26, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The reference to "unsourced" is to both the WP:V and WP:BLP policies. GABHello! 19:48, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions notice - BLP
-- slakr \ talk / 03:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Multiple accounts
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for abuse of. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 22:19, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for not being here to help create an encyclopedia. When I asked you above whether you had any connection with your article subject, you denied it (after first ignoring several questions about it from other users). I found that rather hard to believe. Now that you've gone so far as to pretend to be someone else to support yourself in a discussion, I don't believe it at all. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Bishonen &#124; talk 13:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Valery Surkoff, you're free to blank this page if you wish, and I'm going to ask for the AfD to be courtesy blanked. Bishonen &#124; talk 13:58, 18 May 2016 (UTC).
 * Sorry, I can't understand what mean - to blank. If possible explain what you mean exactly.Valery Surkoff (talk) 23:21, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * To "blank" a page means to erase the text on it. To remove the text, to make the page empty. Bishonen &#124; talk 10:34, 19 May 2016 (UTC).
 * What exactly page?Valery Surkoff (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
 * "This page". The page you're looking at. The page User talk:Valery Surkoff. Bishonen &#124; talk 15:08, 21 May 2016 (UTC).
 * And why do it? For what purpose?Valery Surkoff (talk) 18:14, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's up to you if you want to blank it. I thought it might be embarrassing for you to have it visible, with the complaints and the blocks and so on. If you don't find it so, that's fine too. Bishonen &#124; talk 18:40, 21 May 2016 (UTC).
 * I have nothing to lose. You unfairly blocked me on all time. The article, which I created - removed. Perhaps it is beneficial to you to have it blank. But I'll leave it all to see your preconceived unfair actions.Valery Surkoff (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
I want to say 'thank you' to User:Goldenshimmer for improve Dmitry Polyakov's article. I have neither the experience nor the energy to get any justice here. A little later I will write a long letter where I want to explain.Valery Surkoff (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No problem. Trying to rescue articles is something I like doing :) I think you might have had a better experience here if you took your time to get the hang of editing and read the various policies to know how things work, and didn't go into the process with as much of a "battleground mentality". Anyway, that's just what I observe, feel free to take or leave my thoughts as you choose :) Goldenshimmer (talk) 17:12, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

WP:CIR
I think it might, in truth, be an issue: the number of times above the most simple things have to be explained, for example. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi  20:48, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Draft:Dmitry Polyakov
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