User talk:Valleyman1970

The article Ray Donn has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article, which appeared to be about a real person, individual animal, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:46, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Ray Donn for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ray Donn is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Ray Donn until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Blueboar (talk) 12:51, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Copyright
Valleyman... Both of the articles you have created (the Ray Donn article and the Don Smoothey‎ article) read like you simply cut and pasted from another source. I strongly suspect you are copying That's Entertainment 100 Years Chelsea Lodge by Keith Skues. If so, this violates copyright laws and thus Wikipedia policy, and will result in both articles being summarily deleted. More importantly, it could result in your being blocked from further editing on Wikipedia. So, I strongly advise you to re-write the articles from scratch.

That said, you really need to work on establishing the notability of both people. You need to cite reliable independent secondary sources that talk about these men... a self-published history of their Masonic lodge is not adequate. Neither are their personal webpages, or the webpages of other organizations they belong to. You might try looking for reviews of their performances, as these would show that theatrical critics have commented on them. Blueboar (talk) 14:40, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

March 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed maintenance templates from Don Smoothey. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. noq (talk) 21:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

File source and copyright licensing problem with File:DonSmoothey.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:DonSmoothey.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, we also need to know the terms of the license that the copyright holder has published the file under, usually done by adding a licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Non-free content, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have created [ in your upload log]. Unsourced and untagged files may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the file will be deleted 48 hours after 20:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC). If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Ray Donn.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Ray Donn.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, we also need to know the terms of the license that the copyright holder has published the file under, usually done by adding a licensing tag. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Non-free content, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have created [ in your upload log]. Unsourced and untagged files may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the file will be deleted 48 hours after 20:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC). If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 20:46, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not continue to upload files missing information on their copyright status, as you did with File:DonSmoothey.jpg. Note that Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously and that the copyright status of all media files uploaded to Wikipedia must be verifiable by others. If you are unsure of the correct copyright template, please refer to the list of image copyright tags. If you would like to experiment with uploading files, please use the test Wikipedia. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 20:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Inre Articles for deletion/Ray Donn
If you take a look at the edits I made to the article Ray Donn, you'll see how I neutralized the tone and corrected the references and their formats. THAT is how it is done. Using superlatives or unneccessary adjectives is frowned upon per WP:NPOV. Now understand, the article may well be deleted anyways, but I have given it its best chance of survival, as his background and history is sourced and he has recognition and coverage in multiple 3rd-party independent sources for his work as an film extra when most film extras get no coverage whatsoever for their contributions to film and televison.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:48, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes... Michael's edits to the Ray Donn article go a long way towards establishing notability (not sure if they are enough, but it helps). I would strongly suggest that use his re-write as a model, to help you re-write the Don Smoothey article. Blueboar (talk) 13:20, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

inre Don Smoothey
Please take a look at the history of the article and make careful note of the steps I took to bring it line with expectations for style and format. More to be done, yes, but what is important to remember is that the facts need to have citations and the tone needs to be neutral.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:51, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

File source problem with File:RayDonn2.jpg
Thank you for uploading File:RayDonn2.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of that website's terms of use of its content. However, if the copyright holder is a party unaffiliated from the website's publisher, that copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider verifying that you have specified sources for those files as well. You can find a list of files you have created [ in your upload log]. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged per Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion, F4. If the image is copyrighted and non-free, the image will be deleted 48 hours after 00:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC) per speedy deletion criterion F7. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions or are in need of assistance please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 00:51, 11 April 2011 (UTC)