User talk:VanDenVan

April 2008
Please do not add advertising or inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. — Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please stop adding advertising or inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming, and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. Thanks. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 16:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Excuse me! I have added links to a collection of movie reviews of that same movie. I don't see how that can be considered advertising or inappropriate.VanDenVan (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand, but we already link to Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic, preferred by the WikiProject Films community to lead to additional reviews. We need to limit external links because Wikipedia is not a link farm.  In addition, Helium.com only has user reviews from members of that website's community, not reviews circulated in third-party, published sources. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 16:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I have to say that Helium.com is different in that it features full reviews written by citizen journalists. As a movie viewer I'm tired of reading "professional" reviews by so-called critics. I'd much rather go for what real people like you and me think of the movies. On Helium you can even get to know the writer of each review. It's also relieving that reviews are generally free from useless 1-5 scales or stars.VanDenVan (talk) 16:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand that is your stance, but user reviews can be found on many websites. I'm not sure if there is a compelling reason to choose Helium.com over all other websites for user reviews, if other editors agree with the notion of having non-professional reviews provided in Wikipedia articles at all.  You may want to ask at WT:FILM to see how other editors feel.  A lot of people come to Wikipedia and indiscriminately add a certain website across multiple film articles, and if there was not a limit, all their External links sections would be link farms. — Erik  (talk • contrib) - 17:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I was coming here to say something about it, but Erik pretty much nailed it. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  20:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)