User talk:Vanamonde93/Archive 11

Merry Christmas!
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 * Thank you,, and the same to you. Vanamonde (talk) 12:55, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.. It's the section "False allegation on disruptive editing, admins take initiative". The filer of the report did not notify you, so I do so. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:03, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Coming of Age in Karhide
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Extended confirmed protection policy RfC
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Request for your view...
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Please comment on Talk:United States Senate election in South Dakota, 2016
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Address Collection - 1st reminder
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DYK for Operation PBFORTUNE
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Please comment on Talk:Pizzagate (conspiracy theory)
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Happy New Year, Vanamonde93!


Happy New Year! Vanamonde93, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thanks, ! The same to you and yours. Vanamonde (talk) 11:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Vanamonde93!


Happy New Year! Vanamonde93, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

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 * Thanks, ! A happy new year to you, too. Vanamonde (talk) 11:07, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

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Kosem Sultan's relatives
Gülbahar (Kösem Sultan's Sister) and Yasemin (Kösem Sultan's Sister) cancelled. Please, open pages. This people are real. Sources:

1 http://www.mixanitouxronou.gr/i-ellinida-kori-tou-papa-pou-egine-soultana-ke-kivernise-tin-othomaniki-aftokratoria-tin-eroteftike-parafora-o-soultanos-achmet-a-ke-ton-voithise-na-chtisi-to-ble-tzami/

2 http://www.iefimerida.gr/news/89252/o-ελληνας-εραστής-του-σουλειμάν-του-μεγαλοπρεπούς

3 http://www.protothema.gr/life-style/article/481197/mia-ellinida-soultana-katakta-tin-tourkia/

4 http://www.ekriti.gr/ειδήσεις-διεθνή-ψυχαγωγία-back-stage/η-χουρέμ-επιστρέφει-ως-κιοσέμ-σουλτάν

5 http://www.espressonews.gr/showbiz/2015/11/143042/i-soyltana-kiosem-apo-ti-hio

6 http://www.pelop.gr/?page=article&DocID=242964 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sulmerruhtan (talk • contribs) 08:01, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that something being "real" is not enough for it to have an article on Wikipedia. I myself am decidedly real, but there is no article about me. You need to demonstrate that the subject of an article is notable, through the use of reliable sources. Also, please read WP:NOTINHERITED. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 08:05, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Hardcore punk
The IP and I talked about the stuff on the hardcore punk article and we agree on something. Statik N (talk) 20:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've taken a look at the discussion, and unprotected the page; if the editing degenerates again, though, full protection may be needed agian. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 06:10, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Ivan V. Polyakov article
Hi, Vanamonde93. I've recreated the article you deleted as a draft. It's a little bit strange to me that it was deleted as I provided all answers to the person who did the initial moderation of the article and corrected the article according to his comments. Please check the draft and if you have any comments I'll be more than happy to correct the article. Also, please be informed that this article os a translation of the article in Russian segment. Best regards, Ivp.office (talk) 21:31, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
 * When I came across the article, it was certainly too promotional in nature to be in mainspace. Recreating it in draft-space is fine, as long as you are using the draft to bring the piece in line with WP:NPOV, and not simply to store something that would not survive in mainspace. Vanamonde (talk) 08:45, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Dublin Regulation
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Slum Soccer Deletion
As you deleted the Slum Soccer Article due to in your opinion promotion, please explain me in detail, where promotional content was. I was only showing in this high quality article how Slum Soccer is working. For the reason they are doing an amazing job, the content of the article seems to be promotional. but it was only the pure working truth. Please show me where promotional content was. Constantin Masch (talk) 11:12, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Please read the links I've posted on your page. As a good rule of thumb, though, everything you write here needs to be supported by reliable sources: when we abandon those and write just "what we know," neutrality issues crop up. Vanamonde (talk) 11:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

About the deleted article Archiam Centre: I disagree with the deletion reason, but agree that it should be deleted.
Hi Vanamonde93,

You deleted the article under the WP:G11 rationale. I was looking for reliable third references for that that article, and was about to suggest a WP:AFD based on the evidence that the "Archiam Centre" was an offshoot of Nottingham Trent University's Centre for Architecture, Heritage and Global Difference project. So: Nottingham Trent University has a project called "Centre for Architecture, Heritage and Global Difference" One of its sub-projects included The ArCHIAM Project.

All that said. maybe there could be a carefully written article about this maybe notable topic with references from impeccably reliable sources.

Your thoughts about this?

Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:31, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * G11 is one of the deletion criteria that actually has very little to do with notability; all it says is that the article is so unsuitable for Wikipedia that it needs to be deleted. If a well-written article can be written about the subject, then write one by all means. Vanamonde (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

About the deleted article PriceWeber
Hi! You flagged an article for PriceWeber for speedy deletion, and it has since been taken down. I am new to posting on Wikipedia, so any policy violation was completely unintentional. Do you have any advice on how to write an article that won't be eligible for deletion in the future? I'm planning on rewriting the one that you tagged, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! LTaylor197 (talk) 15:33, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for approaching this in the right spirit. First off, you have to check whether the subject you wish to write about is actually notable, and whether that can be demonstrated through the use of reliable sources. Beyond that, a page must comply with WP:V and WP:NPOV, which you should also read. I see that somebody has posted a welcome template on your talk page: just go through those links thoroughly, and you will be in decent shape. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 16:40, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Talkback
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Please comment on Talk:United States presidential election, 2016
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DYK for Rifa-e-Aam Club
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Speedy deletion nomination of Tractors India Pvt. Ltd.
Joydip.B (talk) 11:38, 17 January 2017 (UTC) Hi Vanamonde93, You nominated Tractors India Pvt. Ltd.for speedy deletion, however i updated the article with reference links, & participated in talk pages also, i am new to Wikipedia, want to keep this company page active, please suggest
 * Hi there. The best way for you to go forward is to carefully read the links posted to your talk page, and then to create a draft that complies with the policies that have been linked there, and use the WP:AFC process to create the article. I'm afraid the talk page that you have posted on will have to be deleted (since the article has been deleted) but don't worry, I have read it. Vanamonde (talk) 15:42, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Alternative DNS Roots
Hi, someone keeps adding self-promotional sections to the Alternative DNS root page and I'm not sure what the correct course of action is. Writing this to you because you reverted the change once and you're an admin, so hopefully you know more about the correct procedure than me :) -- Jonah Aragon &#124;Talk&#124; 14:13, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Yes, there do seem to be some issues with promotional editing. The correct procedure would be to remove the promotional material, and then request semi-protection on the page, since the users are IPs or new accounts. This can be done by asking an admin (as you have done here) or by posting to WP:RFPP, which is usually quicker, as there is an option to do this easily in the twinkle menu. In this particular case, I have protected the page for a week. However, removing the content is not so straightforward, because although it does seem promotional, and is unsourced, so is a lot of content on that page. So, I'm going to leave that to you to clean up: any information that is in the form of listing prominent examples should be sourced, or it is probably falling foul of our policies. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 15:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Template issue reminder
Vanamonde, i understand the issue on WP:CRUFT within the templates that you're about to delete with: Template:Current APEC finance ministers Template:ASEAN Foreign Ministers Template:ASEAN Finance Ministers Template:ASEAN Defence Ministers

and also the recent deletion of this template: Template:Current APEC Foreign Ministers As these templates are concerned, isn't there a way to make these templates non-CRUFT? Such removal would be unfair and a detrimental to undo all the hardwork being done given that despite all the reliable information as well the functions and purposes they have stating the representation of these template are legitimate. Earlier, you stated that few of them received any sustained attention in reliable sources as groups which i don't understand.

On the contrary, you should understand that ASEAN and APEC's foreign ministers and finance ministers in which they represent in their respective countries by ministerial meetings is same thing that the G20 and the G8 had done so. But if you really believe that such these templates that i have contributed are considered as a CRUFT as what you have really insisted, the alternative way would be recreating these templates in order to remove its description as CRUFT and to remove redundancy. Saiph121 (talk) 12:42, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
 * My apologies for a belated reply. The short answer is "no". The longer answer is that each sovereign country tends to be a part of a number of multilateral groupings: and if we created such a navbox for every position, for every grouping, we would be absolutely inundated with navboxes. G8 and G20 receive far more attention than the average international grouping, but even so, these navboxes are questionable. I don't think you have truly understood what cruft is, or why it is a problem. I would suggest that you try to broaden your perspective a little. Vanamonde (talk) 07:04, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Chelsea Manning ITN
Hello. Since you're an admin and I don't want to be wrongly accused of canvassing, could you please post a note about the current ITN at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies?Zigzig20s (talk) 11:44, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * There is nothing wrong, in general, with posting a neutrally worded note. In this case, however, the ITN entry in question does not address gender and/or sexuality at all, except inasmuch as it is about a person whose transgender status is widely known. Therefore, I'm uncertain that such a notification would be appropriate. What might be more appropriate would be to notify folks who are involved on that article already. Vanamonde (talk) 12:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * It is appropriate because as you say, "it is about a person whose transgender status is widely known," which means many editors in the WikiProject will be interested. Can you please do it? Otherwise I will ask someone else.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * If you believe it to be entirely appropriate, then place it yourself: if you don't believe it to be entirely appropriate, you shouldn't place it. If you are uncertain, then you should take the advice that you asked for. I have no intention of placing a notification: do what you will with my advice. Vanamonde (talk) 12:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
 * In light of "it is perfectly acceptable to notify other editors of ongoing discussions, provided that it be done with the intent to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus." and "An editor who may wish to draw a wider range of informed, but uninvolved, editors to a discussion can place a message at any of the following: The talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects or other Wikipedia collaborations which may have interest in the topic under discussion.", I have done nothing wrong. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Saudi Arabia
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Ibn Tumart
Agh. I just put an edit-warring notice, and you froze the page for a week? I guess it's pointless now. Why reward his forum shopping? Can you at least freeze it as it was before the dispute? Walrasiad (talk) 11:10, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Vanamonde. I took the liberty of restoring the article to its pre-edit warring version. Looking at the page history, it seems to be the right thing to do. Hope that's ok. --regentspark (comment) 14:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, quite alright, thank you. It was one of those situations wherein the dispute is not symmetric, but both sides are being disruptive to a degree. Vanamonde (talk) 03:35, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of an entry for Professor Alan Sinclair
Hello,

Can you please explain why you deleted a page about an academic friend of mine called Professor Alan Sinclair?

He was mentioned by his school's wikipedia page but didn't have a page, so we created one with no agenda other than sharing his biography.

Rather innocent, or that's how it appeared to us. I can't see the problem, although I am new to Wikipedia, so please explain so this doesn't happen again.

Kind regards

Olly — Preceding unsigned comment added by OliverJelley (talk • contribs) 17:26, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

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hindi wikipedia
जी, क्या आप हिंदी विकिपीडिया पर भी कुछ समय दे सकते हैं ? हमें आप जैसे लोगों से ही आशा है । भारत से और लोग विकिपीडिया पढ़ पाएंगे । आपके आभारी रहेंगे । GhaniBhai (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * FYI: This loosely means, "can you give time for Hindi Wikipedia, we need people like you, more Indians will read Wikipedia". Don't know how to reply though,, can you help? this user has posted this to a few other people too. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 23:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, he's basically requesting people to contribute to Hindi Wikipedia. I have around 5000 edits on hiwiki, and I still lurk there sometimes. I stopped being active there because the community's convention of using ultra-Sanskritized Hindi put me off, but I may start contributing again sometime in the future. utcursch &#124; talk 23:45, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes. Please start contributing to this beautifl language's database. There are already many English authors out there .GhaniBhai (talk) 16:38, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
 * While I certainly appreciate the work being done on the Hindi Wikipedia (and indeed, on the other Wikipedias which cater to the world's large non-english speaking population) I'm afraid I have neither the language skills, nor the time at the moment, to participate. I wish you the best of luck. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 05:25, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Secondary schools proposal
Hi Vanamonde! Since we've met editing an India related article, it occurred to me to bring this proposal to your attention. It seems to me it might impact how we include items from India. But, I then realized I don't really know that much about India-related articles, or, in the grand scheme of things, very much about, well, India. So, I thought I would bring it to your attention and see what happened! (Having found you, should I sign this 'Alvin'? Or, in the case of your alternative account, 'Stormgren'?) Chris vLS (talk) 03:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification, I'll take a look at the discussion. It is indeed an interesting conundrum. As to the username, I'm glad you recognized it: I enjoyed those books, growing up. Cheers, Vanamonde (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of the page LEAD Business Growth
Hi Administrator,

Greetings of the Day!

This is in reference to deletion of the page LEAD Business Growth, a short while ago, for which I wish to provide some clarifications.

We created the page because it is a story about 'purpose' and 'resolve'. The page is not intended for marketing and promotion, in any form. The story is, definitely, going to be 'big' in the near future. I believe what went wrong is that we did not use references (links) of third parties, to verify the details. Given the paucity of time, this afternoon, we intended to provide the links tonight. However, in the meanwhile, the page got deleted.

As a resolution, we have furnished some references in the talk page of LEAD Business Growth. We hope that the references would suffice, to have the page restored.

Thanks and warm regards, Dheeraj Mirpuri — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeadBizGrowth (talk • contribs) 11:15, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, there are a few issues here. First, a page can be promotional even unintentionally. Any page needs to comply with WP:NPOV, WP:N, and WP:V; yours did not. Second, it sounds like this is a group you are involved with: in which case, you have a conflict of interest, and should avoid writing about LEAD on that basis alone. Third, the talk page is that of a deleted article, and so I have deleted the talk page, too: if you wish to collect sources, please do so on a draft in your userspace. Vanamonde (talk) 11:20, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Username violation
Hi, thanks for addressing my speedy on Welding Electrodes manufacturing and zapping it. The user User talk:Omegaweldrod who created it has the name of the business it was promoting as their name here, could you address that when you have time? Thanks again! JamesG5 (talk) 11:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there, . Username issues are actually one of the areas in which I am not very comfortable, and therefore I would ask that you report this to WP:UAA instead, rather than me taking the chance of unintentionally fracking up. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 11:22, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Will do! JamesG5 (talk) 11:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jacobo Árbenz
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Please comment on Talk:Eurodac
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Dagar
With due respect, Dagar has been around since '09 and isn't a G4 recreation. Mind re-opening Articles for deletion/Dagar (2nd nomination) and letting the discussion take place? Primefac (talk) 18:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was too quick. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 18:06, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're right, it wasn't. Do take a look at my comment there, though: I simply do not believe in coincidences such as this. Vanamonde (talk) 18:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jacobo Árbenz
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DYK for Paradises Lost
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DYK for Suat Derviş
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CapTech
Hey! I have rebuilt the CapTech site (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FCapTech)

I tried to keep it as neutral as possible...I apologize I didn't see the 'please don't modify' edit at the top. Hopefully the changes are acceptable, I literally kept it as boilerplate as possible to get some basic information out there.

Let me know if you have questions or concerns!

Thanks,

Kinighton — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinighton (talk • contribs) 16:01, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid it is a bit of a problem. I've undid your edit there, because what you modified was not the article about CapTech, but a deletion discussion about it. I have therefore reverted your edit there. What you should do is the following: go into the page history, click on the version that you had edited (which I have linked here for your convenience), and copy over the text you added, preferably into a draft in your userspace (ie it should be titled something like "User:Kinighton/CapTech"). Then, once you are done, I would recommend using the WP:AFC process to create the article. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 16:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:2016 United States election interference by Russia
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Napoleon Hill
There is absolutely no historical evidence that Napoleon Hill was a suspected con man. If you search through the history of reputable periodicals, there is simply no evidence. Over 40 years after this man's death, a blogger "investigated" his theory that he was a con man and the only "evidence" he could find was that a historian who studies Andrew Carnegie now has no proof Carnegie met Hill, which is a claim Hill often made. Again, there is no evidence from Carnegie himself or his family or any writings of the time, simply that someone who studies him currently has no proof that they met and clearly doesn't believe it. For a dubious blog article that makes an outrageous claim and uses little to no actual evidence to back it to be used as the "source" behind calling a man who did good for so many a "con man" in the first line of his description in an encyclopedic article is more than incautious, it's despicable. Further, when I changed the article and removed "suspected con man" because there were no credible sources with actual evidence, and changed his description to "author, philosopher and lecturer," all of which are verifiable, indisputable facts, I was accused of vandalism and puffery.

Facts are puffery but removing unsubstantiated, slanderous accusations from a deceased man's description is vandalism? Whose ethics or legal understanding does this represent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:580:8203:EEDB:3D60:6F66:1938:7BD8 (talk) 06:08, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * You need to either find reliable sources supporting your assertions, or demonstrate that the sources in the article are not actually credible; merely saying something is false is not enough. And you need to do this on the talk page of the article in question. Vanamonde (talk) 06:12, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Sally Yates and Jeff Sessions
I'd appreciate if you could weigh in here Talk:Jeff_Sessions on a dispute about a video that an editor is trying to insert into 3 different articles. NPalgan2 (talk) 08:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Pollokshaws Bowling Club - Deletion - Please reinstate
Hi

please can you restore our deleted page on Pollokshaws Bowling Club so we can at least store in the information. We do not agree with the deletion as our club is important to the local community of Pollokshaws in Glasgow, and also expats who have moved to Australia, Spain, New Zealand etc. It has history dating back to 1854.

Some might define it as obscure, but it is an important living document to pass on to the generations that will follow us.

Also one of the reasons for deletion is that it has no independent nobility... I disagree. Our club has produced THREE Scottish National Champions in our sport (1909, 1944, 2014) and currently has a Scottish under 25 internationalist, Stephen Lowrie Junior, who has played on television in Scotland!!! So perhaps we suffer as Lawn Bowls is a minority sport, but that is not our fault!

And actually in 2017 one of our members Lyn Wallace has been elected President of Bowls Scotland (the national governing body for our sport).

But if you still feel it has to be deleted (which I personally feel is a little bit mean and against the spirit of Wikipedia) then can you please allow us the opportunity to save the information.Marcus9000 (talk) 08:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

But I hope you reconsider and allow us the great opportunity to use Wikipedia to share our successes and history with the world. • contribs) 08:55, 31 January 2017 (UTC) Marcus9000 (talk) 08:59, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * The issues with that article, as stated in the PROD, were that it did not demonstrate notability, and was not adequately sourced: see WP:GNG and WP:V. I cannot, therefore, reinstate it as it was. I can move the deleted version to a draft in your userspace, where you can work on it: however, I will only do this if you commit to working on it to bring it in line with Wikipedia's standards: such a draft should not be used merely as a repository of information. Vanamonde (talk) 09:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Ok that is fine by me. That would be great, thanks. Can you let me know when you move the article over please? Marcus9000 (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcus9000 (talk • contribs) 09:29, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, then, here you go: User:Marcus9000/Pollokshaws Bowling Club. I will reiterate, though, that this is a long way from being an appropriate encyclopedia article. In addition to the links I've given you above, please read WP:NOTDIR. Vanamonde (talk) 09:35, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Cheers. Marcus9000 (talk) 09:35, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

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 * The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries
 * JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Mukurtu Archive
Thanks for the note, Vanamonde93. I think you misunderstood the message I left on the talk page contesting the deletion. I didn't use Wordpress blogs as a model for the page on Mukurtu. I used the Wikipedia article on Wordpress as a model for starting an article on Mukurtu. That makes sense to me, since both are notable content management systems (albeit for different reasons). I appreciate the links to notability, neutrality, and reliable sources. I've read them. I defended the article using the criteria and terms Wikipedians have established for those tests. You have given no reason at all for deleting the page aside from a misreading of my note on the talk page. I think the article deserves to be reinstated. Mukurtu has sparked discussion of traditional knowledge and indigenous rights among CMS developers while supporting indigenous communities all over the world. Do you have any specific reason to delete it? I'm inexperienced here, as you must know, but I do understand the Wikipedia policies in question. And I know what it means to assume good faith. Blueandblack (talk) 07:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * The reasons for deleting the page are straightforward: it did not demonstrate notability, and despite some cleanup, it was not neutrally written. It therefore met speedy deletion criteria A7 and G11, was tagged as such, and was deleted. I will not reinstate it, for the same reasons. If you still believe you can create a policy-compliant version thereof, I would suggest the following: read the links I posted to your talk page, find reliable sources discussing this topic, write a draft based on those sources, and use the WP:AFC process to create it. If you want, I can furnish you with a copy, in your userspace, of the article that was deleted; but I will only do so if you commit to using the AFC process for it. Vanamonde (talk) 06:49, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, sure, please add the deleted article to my userspace. I'd appreciate it. Blueandblack (talk) 07:05, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Here you go: User:Blueandblack/Mukurtu_Archive. Enjoy. Vanamonde (talk) 07:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Paradises Lost
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Your GA nomination of Paradises Lost
The article Paradises Lost you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Paradises Lost for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:41, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Request protection
Hi Vanamonde93. Can you request for protection to this article GMA Network Inc. and GMA Network since they destructive editing to this article from the autoconfirmed user. Thanks Kazaro (talk) 03:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I've semi-protected both pages for a week. Thanks for letting me know, but just fyi it's usually a little quicker to post to WP:RFPP. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 10:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Protection for Michael White (author)
Hi thank you for protecting the page for Michael White (author), after 's request. There's no harm in going through the chain of increasingly long protections, but in case you do have any questions, the Azul411 sock archive and Michael White revision history will show that the vandalism of Galileo-related pages and Michael White's page are, unfortunately, linked. I feel somewhat guilty not having had much time recently to help DVdm with the issue, especially since they predicted that increased protection at Galileo and Galileo Affair would transfer the sock's attention to Michael White. Best, Darouet (talk) 15:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi there, . I too am quite happy to increase the duration of protection on articles as necessary: it is talk pages that I am reluctant about, as that is generally discouraged by the protection policy. Anyhow, thanks for keeping a lookout. Vanamonde (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Alright, thank you ! I will try to keep an eye on the article and associated talk page, in order to help DVdm out. -Darouet (talk) 17:14, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

louisP Ltd
New to Posting, please forgive errors. the page for louišP Ltd. received a request to delete fron Vandamonde. I feel your first review was correct due to the notable aspects of the referenced stories not being included. I did not create the article, I edited it just now, to include the aspects of the articles which are notable in that 1. These people from over 20 countries teaming up to create and launch a website is a business development which has never been done 2. the interface coding allows a user to get to and from any city of the world faster and in fewer steps than any other website and without the need to type 3. the interface coding allows the user to explore every single genre of entertainment within every city of the world without the need of typing and this is unlike any website 4. therefore this business development design as well as the interface coding are both unique and notable. Eliminating steps to a user's discovery of information is a notable creation of a design

<"iconoLand: Entertainment Events Around The Corner and The World!". qcostarica.com. 27 October 2016. Retrieved 27 January 2017.> <"iconoLand.com ready to launch". thebftonline.com. 30 September 2016. Retrieved 27 January 2017.> < Danny, Diazion (7 September 2016). "The Spotlight on Ghana is About to Launch". patriarc.com. Retrieved 27 January 2017.> <"louisP Limited". hkgbusiness.com. Retrieved 27 January 2017.> <"Lanzan sitio web IconoLand con eventos y actividades de entretenimiento en todo el mundo". elfinancierocr.com. 26 October 2016. Retrieved 28 January 2017.> Briscoma (talk) 17:25, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Please create a draft of this article (ie the title should be "Draft:[title]" or "User:Briscoma/[title]" and submit it via the WP:AFC process: I do not have the time nor the background knowledge to go into this in such detail. Vanamonde (talk) 17:29, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Disputed status of Gibraltar
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DYK for Jacobo Árbenz
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Baghatur
Hello. Previously, the editor requested protection for this page and was rejected. It was stated that the discussion should be solved. Despite this, He wanted protection again. And the editor has asked for support from other people in the discussion. He canvassed the discussion. Please could you see with your own eyes. Protection it was an incorrect decision. There are misleading statements.--88.251.8.4 (talk) 10:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I really could not: I know nothing about the topic. The protection is not an endorsement of either version: neither of you can edit the page, and you need to come to a consensus through discussion on the talk page. It is just your bad luck that the version that got protect was not the one you wanted. Vanamonde (talk) 10:48, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * FYI User_talk:NeilN --Neil N  talk to me 14:53, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If he returns after protection expires, I'll semi-protect. Vanamonde (talk) 14:56, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

About my edit on Godhra train burning
Hello, I found that part of content is biased. Can you add another reference to support that sentence?. Thanks -  Nistha Ranjan Dash  ( Talk2me ) 17:24, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
 * What about it is biased? It is supported by a solid source; and there are no reasons to doubt it's veracity. If you want to discuss whether this is due weight or not you can do that, but the place for that discussion is on the talk page of the article: and you certainly cannot remove arbitrary bits of text simply because they seem biased to you, when they are supported by decent sources. Vanamonde (talk) 17:30, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

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DYK for Carlos Enrique Díaz de León
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