User talk:Vanderdecken/Archive 3

What?
"Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. However, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on WP:FPC. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Vanderdecken ∫ξφ 10:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)" What is not civil about saying that something is pointless and of low quality, which was moreover expressed by others, too? It's my opinion based on what I think and I didn't say something like "this sucks" or "fuck you" or so. Oh, and I don't like blind patriotism and righteousness because it always leads to tragedies. And again, it's my opinion so respect it. --Svetovid 11:13, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

New signature
Hi Vanderdecken. How do you like my new signature (I'm asking this because I modeled it after yours)? Also, I just want to let you know that this is not my primary focus and, as a result, I just got bored and fiddled around with a new sig. One more question: Where did you get the name Vanderdecken?  ~  Magnus animum    ∵ ∫ φ γ 13:43, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅ Done. While I was studying for a spelling bee, I found a list of Dutch words, however, I've forgotten all of the words except for Mælstrom, of which I don't really like the sound, but as I've already gone through the renaming process, I'll keep my Latin name. Heil comma, ~ Magnus animum  ∵ ∫ φ γ 16:28, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Here, how did you know that IP's name? I did a WHOIS lookup and I found the city, but still, how did you know the name? ~ Magnus animum  ∵ ∫ φ γ 23:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Oh. Figures, I just looked in the section labeled "Location" above the output. ~ Magnus animum  ∵ ∫ φ γ 11:56, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

HL2:DM
Do you know Be bold policy? That's the policy I followed deleting those sections. Wikipedia ain't place like StrategyWiki (ie. all Gameplay and Maps sections), nor infosite (FiOS grand tournament), and nor place where can be presented video game leagues. Good faith, you say? I say last version was a crap, and I deleted (per Be bold) IMO nonsense, which did not match to encyclopedia. If you say it is on clean-up, then you (or person, who cleaning it) have/has it on your/his own namespace or hard disk. Then why should this not notable info be here? Ho&#322;ek &#1161; 17:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Quake III Arena
Hi, Was there a consensus reached in removal of a huge chunk of material in this page? A majority of removed chunk does not violate original research policy and they also do not sound like a game play guide. Sections like, Special Awards, Maps, Weapons etc., are neither original research, nor a game guide sort of sections. I saw that, you reverted those changes. But again, someone, I think TTN have reverted it back by removing the same chunk. Was a consensus reached on the talk page for removing this? I don't see any. Please reply on my talk page... Mugunth 08:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Your request for third opinion
I have removed your request for third opinion without providing one, because it was not following the guidelines at all. For example, NO usernames should be provided, and the current request clearly tries to lead the one providing the third opinion to a conclusion before even having read the talk pages.

See the example on WP:3O for a good way.

I look forward to seeing your edited request.

--User:Krator (t c) 20:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC) (Occasionally provides Third Opinions, and is coincidently a WP:VG member)

As you were kind enough to welcome me to Wiki-using
I'm using your userpage as a model for my own so that I can learn this fancy 'coding' thing. ;)

Ulgar 01:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm the same. Except there is too much code for one guy to learn! :C Work hard, Play hard, Drink harder 13:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Quake III Arena
Hi, Let's come into a conclusion regarding this revert issue. Your edit has been reverted back again, I've asked TTN to restore those after cleaning up those sections. Let's see what he replies. Mugunth 04:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Quake III Arena 3O
I have responded to a request for Third Opinion in which you were one of the involved parties. Please read Talk:Quake_III_Arena --User:Krator (t c) 18:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the image I uploaded is now correctly tagged. Ze 16:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Bliss.png
Hello, Vanderdecken. An automated process has found and removed an image or media file tagged as nonfree media, and thus is being used under fair use that was in your userspace. The image (Image:Bliss.png) was found at the following location: User talk:Vanderdecken/Archive 1. This image or media was attempted to be removed per criterion number 9 of our non-free content policy. The image or media was replaced with Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg, so your formatting of your userpage should be fine. Please find a free image or    media to replace it with, and or remove the image from your userspace. User:Gnome (Bot)-talk 06:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Image:Gordon Frohman.jpg
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Re:welcome from you
Hello, Greg, Thanks for your welcome. Maybe I'll do my user page later, when I have a time. Best regards. Mbz1 00:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)Mbz1

Luser
Thanks for your note. There is nothing uncivil in describing "witticisms" that appeal to a nerd's sense of humour but probably not to your regular Joe's as "nerdy witticisms". If you feel offended by that, I apologise, but I'm not sure what your grounds are: you don't consider the section witty or you don't consider them to be nerdy? Or you're a nerd and feel that it's insulting to suggest that I should think that things are funny for you but not for me or others? Given that 99.9% of humanity does not know what this stuff is all about, I'd say it's a fair call. I consider the section totally unencyclopaedic. It's clearly meant to be humorous, and that's a tone encyclopaedias generally steer clear of. Other forums exist for expressing rarefied senses of humour. This strikes me as particularly Uncyclopaedic. Please refer to the policies on contested material. It's perfectly okay to remove it and then discuss it. So put forward your defence. Why do we need to suggest that a small tactical nuclear attack might be a good tool for "readjusting" "lusers"? I remind you before answering the question that there is in fact no such thing as a LART outside the jargon, so take that as your basis for discussion please. Grace Note 09:09, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know it's part of n-word jargon, but the tone struck me as overly facetious. I don't have time to fix it just now, but maybe we could compromise with something a bit more objective. For instance, rather than say "A LART is a...", and then a jokey list of things it could be, we would say "LART is a term used in blah de blah", source a couple of people talking about them, that kind of thing. What do you say to that? Grace Note 01:41, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

HL2DM
Hi Vanderdecken,

Any chance you could revert the HL2DM page again? This guy is determined to wipe it out. He claims it is "strategy and gameplay" but in reality none of the information told you how to do anything in the actual game itself, but it did give a nice description of some of the things that make HL2DM unique from other games, and from the single player it was born from.

TY, 24.205.165.229 14:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC) (WT from the HL2DM community)

Edit summaries
Hello, please use adequate edit summaries, especially when making changes to an edit with an automatic edit summary. For example, this edit looks as if I had added all that content, as implied by "undid ... revision by intgr". Happy editing! -- intgr #%@! 11:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

AfD: Gerhard Buchwald
Hi, I've nominated the above article, which you wikified some time ago, for deletion. The person described is not relevant in the medical field, but also not relevant in other regards. His protests against vaccination are not that prominent at all. Regards, --Biologos 11:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Approach and tone on Template:Welcomeg
Vanderdecken, your approach in toward Lara on Template talk:Welcomeg has been overly harsh and critical of a well-intentioned user. Lara was WP:BOLD in productive changes and bothered to comment requesting review on the talk page. You reverted all of Lara's edits as well as multiple edits by other well-intentioned editors, all of which had to be re-made, based on a lack of consensus. You were completely correct in reverting the edits, but your disagreement was the first to be voiced. In fact, multiple supporting comments were present on the talk page, hardly an obvious lack of consensus! You did this without even bothering to comment on the existing talk-page discussion, initiated by Lara requesting review(!) Template_talk:Welcomeg. Lara has shown clear understanding or working together toward consensus on this article, while I feel you have shown limited understanding of civility and not biting the new users. This is not intended as a personal attack, please take it as constructive criticism. Thanks for all your work with the project.. &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 20:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your response. Regarding specifics changes to the templates, I'll keep them to the template talk page.  I agree that you were fine to revert the changes and request further discussion, but I was put off and felt the need to comment on your approach.  Thanks again for your contribs...  best.  &there4; here&hellip;&spades; 18:49, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


 * FYI I'm pretty sure that Lara is a sockpuppet of a banned (and very disruptive) user - . So don't beat yourself up about reverting his changes! andy 22:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
 * There's a number of reasons: he comes from the same region of India, appeared a couple of days after a massive blocking of related sockpuppets, started off by editing a couple of articles that Vinay412 or his socks had edited, leaves very similar chirpy edit summaries, has a somewhat aggressive manner, and spends a lot of time "improving" templates. I'm keeping an eye on him. andy 10:21, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

FPC query
I notice you opposed the Vietnamese child soldier FPC due in part to excessive grainyness. An edit has been made that reduces some of the grain, and I'd like to know what you think of the new edit before I close the nomination. Thanks. Raven4x4x 09:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Policy concerns at Master of Puppets
What policy concerns did you have here? (See WP:ALBUM for the preferred formatting of such sections.) --PEJL 11:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Image tagging for Image:Rogers.jpg
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Regarding
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Yes, I need some help
Hey there. Thanks for your message.

I do need a little help. I've been working to improve the article for the band Army of Freshmen. I've made a lot of improvements to it. I revamped the existing article, which was just a paragraph that was clearly cut and pasted from something promotional. I need help figuring out how to get rid of the neutrality and the "does not cite sources" tags. Can you help me do that? Chrissypan 16:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Chrissypan

Thank you!
Thanks for your help! Removing the tags is easier than I thought, I guess!

I've looked at the entries for bands like Bowling for Soup, Smashmouth, Quietdrive, etc, and tried to format the Army of Freshmen entry to look like that, since those are well-done examples of pages about bands.

I believe that I've corrected the issues that the tags refer to; if you want, you're welcome to take a look at it and let me know if you agree. :) Chrissypan 18:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)Chrissypan

Wadsworth Falls
Hey there. I was interested in making a page for the park I work at here in Connecticut, and I see that there are actually two pages for it already. I'm planning to put the information from the sparser page (which I input a couple of days ago) onto the more comprehensive one. Obviously, they should be merged... How do I do that? Is there a way to just delete the unnecessary one?

You can see what I mean if you look at the pages for Wadsworth Falls and Wadsworth Falls State Park. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrissypan (talk • contribs) 21:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The Panda Band
As a contibutor to the above article would appreciate your feedback as to whether the articles on The Panda Band's album This Vital Chapter should be deleted - your feedback is important as to whether the item is retained or deleted. Dan arndt 09:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment on my userpage
Thanks for the really kind welcome on my userpage. Also are you jewish, i just saw the shalom greeting and though maybe you are. I am too :-). Anyway thanks for the kind message —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brendan44 (talk • contribs).

CCleaner
Hi, thanks for the edits to the CCleaner entry. :) It was deleted previously, I wasn't 100% sure I was in the 'right' for bringing it back but I thought it was notable enough to have an entry. I can't claim to be a good writer but I can dig up facts, do lists, and add basic information. --Campbecf 19:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --Campbecf 20:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Image:Flying Dutchman, the.jpg
Right...? 68.39.174.238 21:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)


 * "Vanderdecken" was the name of the protagonist of Marryat's version of "The Flying Dutchman". 68.39.174.238 15:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Grats
If you see the latest issue of PC gamer, you made it to to best of the forum.:P-- Kerotan Leave Me a Message  Have  a nice day :) 08:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * the thread is called "Games that can be played one-handed", so technically its only a post that made Best of the forum, but still. And  no, you don't really know me, but I came across your user page one time for some reason, when you only had a photographers barnstar I seem to remember, and when reading the new issue, I saw Vanderdecken in the BOTF section, and I thought it was more than likly that you were the same person, so I thought it would be nice to congratulate you. and on the scanning front, I might be able to do that some time later tonight.-- Kerotan  Leave Me a Message  Have  a nice day :) 07:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Graphics Lab Announcement


Attention All Wikigraphists!
A new Wikigraphist Abilities Page has been created within the Graphics Lab so graphists can specify their graphics skills. To add your entry to the page, simply go the template documentation page and follow the instructions there. If you have any trouble please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Have Fun !

> Rugby471 talk &#9876; Oh and Happy Birthday :-)

thanks for the barnstar1
thanks for the barnstar, I would have thanked you earlier, but I have been so busy with school work and like, and when I get more time I will start doing a barnstar page with that code you suggested, also do have the copy of PCgamer yet?, or do you still want me to scan in the relvent page?.-- Kerotan Leave Me a Message  Have  a nice day :) 07:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Vesuvius map completed
Per your request last April, I have created the following map Image:Mt Vesuvius 79 AD eruption 3.svg and placed it in some appropriate English language articles. Let me know how you like it, MapMaster 05:35, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:X360 Logo.png
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 * ✅ —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 18:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Hi, I'm Dimitri from the Dutch language Wikipedia. I'm currently looking for people of about 14 to 18 years interested in politics, economy, education, business, culture or management. In March 2007 we started up a Dutch language site where we build a whole country, called Libertas. The site is named Wikistad, which means Wikicity in English. You can take a look by clicking here. Now, we're working on an English version after starting up a Romanian too. If you're interested, just come down here, you'll like it. You can become everything you want: from Prime Minister over businessman to taxi driver. Our country is named Lovia of the Kingdom of Lovia and is open to everybody. This is the URL: http://nation.wikia.com/ I'm looking forward to see you later, Dimitri. -DimiTalen 11:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * By the way: do you have Dutch or Flemish roots, according to your last name? DimiTalen 11:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the links to the template directory. I have been trying to find that for months now. Saget53 19:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi!
Thanks for your greetings, Cheers! D@rk K (talk) 20:27, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy tagging
Hi Vanderdecken. Please carefully review WP:CSD for what it does and does not cover. Multiple articles tagged by you in the past few minutes are patently ineligible speedy candidates, or ineligible on the basis tagged: Joyce's Country, Vidyaniketan Public School, Uxbridge Academy‎, Kevin Chapman‎ , Visual Control, Guadalcazar, San Luis potosi to name just a few. CSD A7 is only applicable to people, groups of people, bands, clubs, companies, organizations and web content and it is only applicable to articles without any assertion of importance. This means that article need not meet WP:N or WP:BIO to take them out of A7 range. We debate on the merits whether articles meet those standards (and others) at AfD.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Response Made
User talk:Vanderdecken, in response to your question on my user talk page, about copyright issues, the images which i wouldn't mind uploading doesn't have a copyright symbol, even on the old Planner which i;ve kept for old time sakes, so i think it's safe to upload. SKYNET X1000 (talk) 11:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:HL2DM
To be perfectly honest it doesn't present a very good start for the article to suddenly be hit by a bunch of abbreviations that are only used by fans (who when they use it don't generally use proper grammatical English). You look around other featured or good game articles and they don't do it: could you imagine if every game article had its abbreviation in the intro? It would be a mess, and affects the inital impact of the quality of the article to the reader. Its not in the same vein as something like PS2, which is a universally recognised abbreviation. See WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines: "Avoid confusing abbreviations, unless they are standard [which in the case of Half-Life they are not] . PS2 is OK; LoZ:OoT is probably not." Common fan abbreviations should certainly exist as redirects but unless they are official parts of the title they shouldn't be used in the actual article. -- Sabre (talk) 18:33, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Marul (Stargate).jpg)
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Useful?
It didn't really work when it was on a guy's page. Probably you can solve that problem. The subst said "subst" on the guy's page. Sorry about the no edit summary thing. It's not that very likely of me to do that.-- 16:33, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

SG-1 "The Sentinel"
Are you still planning to work on The Sentinel (Stargate SG-1) so that I should hold off with redirecting this article like most of the other SG-1 ep articles lacking real-world notability? The article has already been transwikied Wikia:Stargate:The Sentinel, which is linked from the List of Episodes. – sgeureka t•c 17:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're okay with the redirect. Thanks. :-) – sgeureka t•c 12:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Didn't take long...
...for Lucy to "archiive" your "noisence" about her spelling. Lambertman (talk) 19:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Comment on WP:NAR
I added a comment on WP:NAR on your vote. As per your request I am informing you on your talk page. Thanks, --Nn123645 (talk) 04:22, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

your message
I understand you posted your message on my user page, in good faith. I achknowledged it and the in accordance with what i regulally do, archived it. It was not meant to offend you by removing it. I simply archived the section as I regulally do, with most of posts on my talk page. Action will be taken that i deem to be necesary. I also dislike that you edited my archive page, in the future please do not undo edits made to my archiving.--Lucy-marie (talk) 14:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi there! I just wanted to say thank you very much for forgiving me on my past vandalism! I am very sorry about it. It won't happen again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasper1066 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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Edits to Malawi
Thank you for your concern, but you must be mistaken. In this edit I only added a word, changed a term for consistency (see previous sentence) and corrected a spelling mistake. Estrilda (talk) 23:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

hey!
can't a guy try to nominate a pic, you don't have to be that harsh! mancami-ai pula de zdreanza!Mario1987 (talk) 12:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

January 2008
Please be aware that dispute reolution is curently being undertaen on this subject regarding the vilage pump (assistance). Active discussions have been undertaken to engage with users, civility by certian users has not been maintianed. I have tried to stay on the content as far as possible and uphold the policies and guidelins of wikipedia.--Lucy-marie (talk) 12:25, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

''That's good. The template I gave you actually turned out a little sterner than I meant it to - an information template would have been more appropriate. I gave the same warning to Angelriver, just to gently remind you both that you may soon violate 3RR whether you intend to or not. Also, can I make a request? You archived this comment before I had a chance to reply, and before you even knew whether I wanted to reply. Could you try to wait about two days after a comment is made before archiving it? You could get MiszaBot III to archive it automatically for you. It won't hurt to leave it for a short while, like 48 hours, then archive, will it? —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 12:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC''

Apologies for archiving before you had a chance to comment, I was though expecting a response here rather than on my talk page, so as to keep the responses in one place. The dispute resolution process was also undertaken before the warning was given.--Lucy-marie (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)