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Hello again
Again have to report mess at Flag of Antarctica. Indeed, I restored the lead section as it was before as it was neutral and NPOV. You as editor with more time here better know what to do about, promotion and pov pushing kind of hurt image of encyclopedia and I don't like it. I understand to some users wanna so hard to promote something what they like, in this case proposal for flag, but really sometimes its too much and this is not a place for that as WP:NOT. MrGogisa (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for reaching out to me, I appreciate it even though I'll admit that I'm not too excited about being roped back into Flag of Antarctica disputes. I do still agree with your concerns and I'll keep an eye out in case anything gets out of hand again.
 * As of right now, I don't have too many complaints with the state of the article, but I did find that some objectionable content was reintroduced and I can see in the revision history that there's still some ongoing disagreements. It is unfortunate that for almost half a year we've had to occasionally deal with two people (potentially one person?) being insistent that the article should convey to the reader that the True South flag is the most important one, even though we've had far too many talk page discussions in which all other editors agree that we shouldn't do that. Given that we've been over this in August, and again in November, and again now in January, I hope that they will eventually stop adding revisions that imply that any one flag matters more than the rest because of its use or lack thereof at research bases.
 * If nothing else, it's good to see that some of the more major changes to the article were discussed at the talk page first. Even though I may not agree with all of the changes, it's a relief to see that they're being made with the agreement of multiple editors. I hope to see more of this going forward.
 * Feel free to ping me again in the future if you ever have any concerns. Best wishes,
 *  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 06:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for the prompt and detailed reply. I will also try to be around more and to keep my eyes on. Again, thank you! MrGogisa (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Feedback request: Politics, government, and law request for comment
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Suggestion
Hello, Vanilla Wizard! You might be interested in endorsing an essay in which creation I participated – WP:NOCONFED. Of course, this is just a suggestion, nothing more. Cheers! —  Sundostund  mppria  (talk / contribs) 21:35, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words, both as part of your endorsement and in the section below it! Also, if you know some other users who might be interested in this essay and its topic, please inform them! —  Sundostund  mppria  (talk / contribs) 20:27, 3 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you, Sundostund! I appreciate the work that you've put into this valuable essay and I look forward to seeing it cited in talk discussions in the future.  Vanilla  Wizard  💙 20:44, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

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Good job at the Rfc
I thought you did well at the Grayzone Rfc, both in your caution in a topic you saw as potentially contentious by raising the discussion first before making a change, then laying it out in a neutral way and opting for what you saw as the best outcome, and then carefully considering the opinions of other editors and even being swayed by them. I wish more Rfc's were like this (and this is irrespective of whether we end up on the "same side" of some Rfc question, or have different opinions about it). Good job. Mathglot (talk) 23:55, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mathglot! Kind words like these are always appreciated!  Vanilla  Wizard </b></b> 💙 21:03, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

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News
To answer the question you posed at this AFD, please see WP:PRIMARYNEWS. Most (but not all) of what appears in a newspaper is primary. Remember that Secondary does not mean independent; the value that newspapers consistently offer us is their independence. WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * , note that I already referenced WP:PRIMARYNEWS in my comments in this AfD in response to an editor who erroneously believed all news is primary without analyzing any sources to see if they provide enough analysis to be considered secondary. This is not new information to me, but I appreciate the comment nonetheless. I am not the first or second editor to explain WP:PRIMARYNEWS to the user Thebiguglyalien, as other editors had to do the same at other AfD nominations, and some of their own nominations were speedily SNOW kept as they are under the false impression that "being a news story" is grounds for deletion. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 22:47, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I see where the misunderstanding comes from. You referenced the Canberry highway collision, but my extensive conversation with this editor about primary sources was in the deletion discussion for the 2023 Kericho truck crash article. That clears things up. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 22:53, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles with incomplete B-Class checklists


A tag has been placed on Category:Limited recognition articles with incomplete B-Class checklists indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to referencing and citation


A tag has been placed on Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to referencing and citation indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to coverage and accuracy


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to structure


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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to grammar


A tag has been placed on Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to grammar indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to supporting materials


A tag has been placed on Category:Limited recognition articles needing attention to supporting materials indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Re: above
Hello,

Thank you for notifying me as I was technically the user that created those pages, but I say technically because I simply moved them when reviving the WikiProject and renaming it to be less wordy (if I remember correctly it used to be something like "WikiProject geopolitical entities with limited international recognition" or some mouthful like that), so I'm not really the "creator" of those pages. All that said, it would probably be good to leave relevant notices on the project talk page too.

Putting all that aside as that's not the real reason why I feel the need to reach out:

I would argue those categories meet the criteria of a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. The "project category" checkbox there is self-explanatory, but reading through the titles of these categories, every one of them refers to a temporary status to a page. A page needing attention to grammar can be removed from that category after the grammar is corrected, a page with incomplete B-class checklists can be removed from that category after the checklists are completed, etc. All of that is to say that, yes, by the nature of those categories, they may become empty on occasion. So to summarize, they are all "project [categories] that by [their] nature may become empty on occasion", and therefore not eligible for speedy deletion.

Thanks,

<b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 22:19, 19 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Vanilla Wizard,
 * These categories are empty and will continue to show up on the Empty Category lists to be tagged for CSD C1 speedy deletion until they are tagged with . Can you see to that? Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I have added the template to these categories. Hopefully this will resolve the issue and prevent them from being automatically flagged for deletion in the future. Thank you for swift replies and for your understanding. Best wishes, <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 12:22, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing
Hello. This edit is WP:disruptive editing. Instead of removing the link, you should have just changed it in accordance with the current title of the page. Dovidroth (talk) 08:48, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello, and Merry Christmas (unless you do not celebrate it, then just mentally replace "merry christmas" with "good evening" or something more appropriate).
 * I respectfully disagree with your assessment that this edit was disruptive. As I outlined in the edit summary, my issue was linking to the page at all, not just using an outdated title. This is because the purpose of that article is no longer what the original author intended.
 * The original author used martyrdom and terrorism synonymously, but martyrdom as a concept is much broader than that. The page was kept because martyrdom as a concept and its relation to Palestinian society is notable and worthy of an encyclopedic article, but we also reached unanimous agreement at the move discussion that the old title was simply unacceptable. The old title intended for the article to present a narrative that Palestinians glorify terrorism, as evidenced by the author also creating "Glorification of Palestinian terrorism" as a redirect to that page, which I have nominated for deletion. Per community consensus, that page will no longer be an inflammatory essay that accuses an entire nationality of glorifying terrorism. Going forward, that page is simply about the more nuanced and complex topic of martyrdom itself. The original page as the original author intended conflated martyrdom and suicide bombing as though there is no difference between the two subjects, implying if not outright stating that a martyr is necessarily a perpetrator of violence and not a victim of it. It was completely unacceptable. As such, I strongly oppose putting a link to this page in a See also section of an article about terrorism next to numerous links to other pages about politically-motivated violence. That's just not synonymous with martyrdom.
 * All due respect, I am unable to find any sentence of WP:DISRUPTIVE, which you have linked to, that can describe my edit. I clearly outlined in the edit summary why I was opposed to including that link in the See also section, and I hope the additional context I have provided in this reply will further explain my reasoning.
 * Best wishes,
 * <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 02:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I should probably ping you as well since you undid the edit, and because you are the "original author" I keep alluding to. Simply put, the scope and purpose of that target article has changed to become more neutral and accurate. That article is about martyrdom, not Islamic terrorism. There are plenty of articles where the latter is adequately covered. The page you started is no longer one of them, or at least, it won't be one after it's cleaned up to comply with WP:NPOV and to account for the change in title and scope. It doesn't belong in a bullet-point list of pages about terrorism. If you disagree with that, don't take it up with me, take it up with all the editors that unanimously agreed to drop the words "Glorification of" from the title and all the AfD voters on both sides that pointed out the glaring POV issues. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 02:47, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * For the archive: the user that initiated this talk section is now topic banned from the relevant editing area (WP:ARBPIA). <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 01:35, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * Had a hard time choosing between this and civility and went by aesthetics :) FortunateSons (talk) 21:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you, ! I truly appreciate that we were able to have a thoughtful back-and-forth discussion on a topic so divisive in an RfC where the temperature was so high. <b style="font-family:Trebuchet MS"><b style="background-color:#07d;color:#FFF"> Vanilla </b><b style="background-color:#749;color:#FFF"> Wizard </b></b> 💙 08:30, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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