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October 2013 Wikification Drive
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Tech News: 2013-40
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features
 * Special:Listfiles can now display old versions of files a user has uploaded. A new link was also added (Special:AllMyFiles) that gives a list of all files the current user has ever uploaded (that haven't been deleted).
 * There is now an Android application to contribute to translatewiki.net from mobile devices.

VisualEditor news
 * VisualEditor now has a new toolbar with drop-down menus for advanced tools.
 * Many bugs were fixed, some related to copy-and-paste.
 * You can now move references, list of references, templates and other elements with the mouse ("drag-and-drop").
 * You are invited to comment on designs for the interface to add references in VisualEditor.

Future
 * Developers are looking for ideas of small technical projects that new developers could work on. Please add your ideas.
 * Developers are looking for wikis who would accept to try using secure links (HTTPS) for all users.
 * You can join an IRC discussion about "Beta features", a tool to try new features, on October 3.
 * You can join an IRC discussion about Flow, the new wiki discussion tool, on October 17.

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CVUA
Hi Ross Hill. I saw on your Ross Hill/CVUA page that you are finding an assistant. Can I be your assistant? I have rollback rights on here and Commons, and I combat vandalism on Commons and Wikipedia regularly and have never been blocked. Can I be your assistant? ''' Jianhui67  Talk  15:42, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds great! Basically, you will have to add to units once they are complete, and grade unmarked questions involving diffs (I'd like to grade all the written questions for now). Don't feel obligated to spend tons of time grading if you are busy (I know you're in school). Any questions?
 * The template for adding new units is user:Ross Hill/CVUA/template. ''' Ross  Hill  17:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for accepting me as your assistant. And by the way, I have added a new section to your CVUA tasks page, which is Unit 8: Rollback. I think that the section may be relevant. Do you want to ask them at that section to go to WP:PERM/R to ask for the rollback right and assign them a task with rollback? If you don't want that section, you can remove it. Can I also add new sections to your students CVUA page? Thanks. ''' Jianhui67  Talk  05:44, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have a comprehensive tasks page on User:Jianhui67/CVUA/Tasks that you may want to use. ''' Jianhui67  Talk  08:24, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Very cool! I'd love to incorperate them into the course. Just waiting on our students to finish their current units. Cheers,  Ross  Hill  20:57, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Which is partly being held up by me. I'm having a major real life crisis at the moment (dealing with trying to get my federal student aid restored while going through a separation which will likely leave me homeless for an undetermined amount of time)... I'll complete my final as soon as I have some free time (I'm getting close to having a lot of free time). :\ Technical 13 (talk) 16:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem at all T13. We're also waiting for user:Padraig Singal, who I know in real life.  Ross  Hill  17:13, 1 Oct 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay everybody... I hadn't realized that new course content had been uploaded. I have now completed it and will be more vigilant in the future. Thanks, Padraig Singal | ✉    01:54, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have helped you to marke Padraig's Unit 3 for you and added Unit 4. ''' Jianhui67  Talk  09:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jianhui67! That's okay Padraig, take as much time as you want.  Ross  Hill  12:13, 3 Oct 2013 (UTC)

October 2013

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Talk:Bradley Manning/October 2013 move request
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Your signature
is broken, caused by a rogue in your "Ross Hill" link. This edit is a solution.-- Laun  chba  ller  19:48, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you &mdash; (っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill  20:00, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Bullying
Hello, I appreciate you comment on the Harassment ANI, but please do not try to make the users behaviour towards me trivial. I feel threatened and bullied for the first time in 8 years on here and would like to think I get the support I require from Admins when this kind of thing happens. Thank you. JMHamo (talk) 23:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Spc 21 has admitted to making a stupid comment. Now personally JMHamo, if I were in your position, I would simply stop engaging with Spc 21 and move on to more important things. &mdash; (っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 00:34, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Unbelievable! I said something whilst reverting MY talk page which was stupid. I was warned. Since then I have not insulted you once. How exactly do you feel threatened when I haven't done anything? Spc 21 (talk) 23:56, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

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The Dirties
Hello, Ross! I am just following up on our project The Dirties. I have added some content, and feel free to change anything you think is unnecessary. Thanks! Padraig Singal | ✉    06:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! I've changed reuploaded the image to Wikipedia instead of commons so we can argue fair use. I also made a few formatting changes. Good start! &mdash; (っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 16:11, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
A great guy to edit with!

Padraig Singal | ✉    02:14, 8 October 2013 (UTC) 
 * Thanks  Ross Hill  →  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ross_Hill&action=edit&section=new Talk to me! ]  16:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

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RFA
I hope you don't let the experience dishearten you. As I said at the page, you would make a good candidate once you have gained a bit more experience, since you have got the collaboration-and-conduct-half of what makes a good editor/admin down right. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 00:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's no biggie. I should have waited to post an RFA. I think I might post another in a few years. Thanks &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 00:43, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry buddy, it's always tough when you make yourself vulnerable to the community and it comes out poorly. I hope you can take the content concerns seriously and we'll see you in 6 months+.--v/r - TP 00:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 00:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And in your next RFA don't forget to mention the articles you created (I found three, in reasonable shape) or expanded (not easy to find, since you haven't opted into for this tool). Remember most of us are lazy and if you don't tell us otherwise we'll just assume that all you do is rollback vandalism not that that is not useful :-) Abecedare (talk) 00:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It still says pending closure even though I closed it? &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 00:56, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Essential reading: WP:Advice for RfA candidates. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes I saw that. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 02:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Speaking strictly from personal experience, it's good to give it a revisit every once in a while. Different things have popped out to me each time I read it through, and not because of any substantial changes. I, JethroBT  drop me a line 03:59, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It may also be worth mentioning your previous usernames, the first of which I think is highly commendable considering you'd no edits then. -- Trevj (talk) 10:33, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure what you mean. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 11:17, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Editors are sometimes interested in what other names/accounts others have edited using. If you wish, you could consider including a simple statement (or user previous account) on your user page. -- Trevj (talk) 13:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I do though. I have a userbox that says my previous username. I was wondering what "the first of which I think is highly commendable considering you'd no edits then." meant. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 13:02, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Terribly sorry - in my haste, I didn't look very hard! About the first one, unless I've misunderstood (which is entirely possible, based on the above) you changed your username even though you'd not made any edits. Others may have thought to simply create a new account, whereas your transparency is admirable. Sorry for the confusion. -- Trevj (talk) 13:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

You can see my edits before my username change, here. Thanks for that &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill  13:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC) ... and I would also suggest adding a link to your talk page in your sig. GiantSnowman 10:50, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I do have a link to my talk page. Links don't show up on the page they're linking to. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 11:17, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * So you do, pleae ignore me. GiantSnowman 12:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Articles for Creation:Becca Albee
Thank you for working on this article and moving it to created articles status. Dougbremner (talk) 23:06, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem at all Dougbremner. I hope you keep contributing to Wikipedia . &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 23:24, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Synchbot request
Hello Ross Hill. Your synchbot request is awaiting your response. :) — Pathoschild 00:31, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've responded there. &mdash;(っ◔◡◔)っ Ross Hill 01:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * No worries Paleocemoski . Ross Hill (talk) 23:35, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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CVUA
Do you want to standardise how we will mark the final exam? I will mark part 2, 4 and 6, while you will mark part 1, 3, 5 or what? ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 03:18, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure we'll do that for Padraig, then we can swap for Technical 13. Sound good? Ross Hill (+ ??? ) . . 18:32, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, sounds okay to me. ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 07:41, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Help
Can you give me some advice about making a good user page and talk page?--Paleocemoski (talk) 20:11, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * First learn some HTML if you want to do some of the more fancy stuff. Then gain some inspiration from other users. You can find some good designs at Userpage design center. I gained some inspiration from user talk:Hahc21, & user talk:Technical 13. Just try to keep them as uncluttered as possible. Do you have any specific questions? Ross Hill  ( talk ) 23:28, 16 Oct 2013 (UTC) 23:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot,it's very helpful.You are the best.--Paleocemoski (talk) 00:24, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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Bankstown Bites
Hi, I have added some more refs and coverage of the event (like Australian Broadcasting Corporation, The Sydney Morning Herald, The Daily Telegraph, Parliament of New South Wales). Hope it improves the article.--203.25.149.10 (talk) 03:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey user:203.25.149.10, if you want me to re-review, please resubmit. Thanks! Ross Hill  ( talk ) 00:26, 18 Oct 2013 (UTC) 00:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Mary Wright Plummer
Hello, I've added a section on Plummer's special contribution to the field of librarianship and resubmitted, please take a look. I'm sorry but I don't understand your reference to WP:42 -- the article already included good published sources, independent from the subject. What you may not realize and what may not have been obvious before I added it, is that although librarianship is now dominated by women, in Plummer's time, leadership by women was relatively unusual. Thanks for your time and your service! Merrilee (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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CVUA
Hi Ross Hill. I am here to ask you how much you want the passing mark for the final exam to be. ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 16:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Does 80% sound good? Ross Hill  ( talk ) 16:12, 20 Oct 2013 (UTC) 16:12, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure. ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 23:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin
Hi. Since you contributed to the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at AN. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 17:29, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Seperate WP for businesses
I see this as the way forward. A seperate WP for business created. We hive off existing articles from WP proper. Liasion with affected companies. Consenting companies agreeing to redistribute any monies made to their local enviroment. It could be administered by the foundation in alliance with local business guilds. It is a win-win. The company gets great kudos and we would allow them to publicise their philanthropy. Classic business enlightened self- interest. It can be done. What part of meta should I access? Never used Meta before. Thanks for the encouraging steer. No need to post on my talk BTW. I will be watching here. Cheers! Irondome (talk) 23:50, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Make a subpage for your proposal at meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TITLE, and then use the template: to start the proposal. I don't use meta much at all, so if you need more help ask at their Help Desk. Regards,  Ross Hill  ( talk ) 01:09, 21 Oct 2013 (UTC) 01:09, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And then you have to add the proposal to the main page here: . Ross Hill  ( talk ) 01:27, 21 Oct 2013 (UTC) 01:27, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Cheers mate Irondome (talk) 01:56, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-42
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features
 * You can now choose which language to show for SVG files that contain several languages, using the "lang" option, like  for the German layer of File:Gerrit patchset 25838 test.svg.
 * Developers are looking for wiki communities to try the new search system.

VisualEditor news
 * You can now create and edit references inside media captions.
 * You now need to press the "delete" key twice to delete a template, reference or image; the first time, they only become selected, to avoid accidental deletion of infoboxes and similar content.
 * When you resize images, you will now still see them, and their size will also be seen in the center.

Future
 * The new notifications system ("Echo") will be added to almost all wikis that don't already have it on October 22. It will notify you of changes and events that affect you.
 * MediaWiki 1.22wmf22 was added to test wikis on October 17. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on October 21 and all Wikipedia wikis on October 24 (calendar).
 * The interface to reset your password will soon be changed.

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PP NSA
I notice you Page Protected NSA. Is this warranted? There are barely 3 reverted edits in 3 days... Sephiroth storm (talk)
 * I didn't protect the page, I'm not an admin. I did however add the padlock topicon with twinkle. Ross Hill  ( talk ) 18:29, 21 Oct 2013 (UTC) 18:29, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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Barnstar of Awesome

 * How you can help even more!
 * (and for which there may or may not be a super secret second extreme helper barnstar)

Cheers! Ocaasit &#124; c 14:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
 * Finish the game: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
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Big green button died?
Check it out. Can't use it for AfC at the moment. Don't kow if it is a code issue or a toolserver issue. Dovid (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Occasionally toolserver doesn't work, but if you wait a couple minutes it starts working again. It's working now. Ross Hill  ( talk ) 12:17, 25 Oct 2013 (UTC) 12:17, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2013-43
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features
 * The "Toolbox" section in the site sidebar is now called "Tools" in English. You can do the same in your language by editing the interface text on translatewiki.net. Someone else may have already done it.

VisualEditor news
 * On wikis with VisualEditor, you can now use it on pages in the   ,      and      spaces.

Problems
 * On October 22 (UTC), an error in the site settings caused  sites (like Meta-Wiki and Commons) to redirect to   for a few hours.

Future
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CVUA
Hi Ross Hill. Can you help me to ask Padraig to complete his final exam? It has been 7 days already. Thanks. ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 04:08, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I asked him yesterday in person. I happen to know he's busy today with something, but He'll probably be on tonight. I'll leave a tb on his page. Ross Hill  ( talk ) 12:26, 26 Oct 2013 (UTC) 12:26, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. I hope he will complete his final exam as soon as possible. ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 14:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

request for closures
Hi Ross, Could you edit your request for closures to a more neutral statement on the Prank vs. Prank thing? I fully agree with you, but a simple request without editorializing is generally more appropriate. Hobit (talk) 12:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Ross Hill ( talk ) 15:03, 30 Oct 2013 (UTC) 15:03, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Hobit (talk) 16:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

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