User talk:Vanished User 2575853/Archive 6

Re: Erik Tønne
I interpret top-level league as meaning a top tier league, but seeing as mid-level leagues are also referred to I'm not sure now. But if it doesn't refer to top tier leagues, how do we define top-level league? Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 13:28, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Josep Clotet Ruiz - Reply
Hi there M86, AL "here",

i'll have a look alright, but it MOST DEFINITELY looks like Mr.Clotet himself or a relative/agent. If you notice, they often engage in words like "talents", "attractive football" that "still resides in Malmö today" (?!). The REF#1, in Swedish and added by someone else, was summarily removed by this person without one word of explanation.

I'll most likely do the same to their "work" (with summary of course), and leave the refs if they adapt to the text. Additionally, you might want to add the article to your watchlist (i don't have one anymore, to "lighten the wikiload") and warn me if they strike again!

Thanks for the tip, keep it up (ah, and i'll drop a line when i finish my revision) --AL (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Done! I managed to keep two of the three refs (this one - see here http://www.aftenbladet.no/100Sport/fotball/eliteserien/-200251_1.snd#.UlVmaNxdb5p - seemed to be a repetition of the manager leaving Viking, but if you think it adds anything to the article, please re-add it by all means), but REF#1 did not say anything about his work with Espanyol youths, so i had to relocate it. Also, storyline was ripe with POV and redirects.

Could you please engage in superteamwork and add Norwegian TRANS_TITLES for refs #3 and #4? I (and WP of course) would highly appreciate it :)

No doubt this user will return (i have seen this case of relatives and/or agents coming in and "doing their thing" in for example Manuel Cajuda and João Carlos Pereira), tip me please if this occurs, or just revert/rollback it if nothing else needs to be done. Cheers! --AL (talk) 14:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

re: 2013–14 Liverpool F.C. season League Performance
It is edit warring to edit something according to what the given source says? That is ridicoulous to me. We have to follow the source! I will have an admin check out this warning and possibly remove it because to me it is bs. This has alson been discussed several times. QED 237  (talk)  20:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Now listen lad, you were edit warring. End of. So get on with it and stop moaning when you have received a justified warning. 86.128.145.131 (talk) 19:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * ''removed non-constructive comment' Mentoz86 (talk) 18:45, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * And who the hell are you hiding behind an IP never edited before? Get back into the hole you came from or create an account and stand for what you are saying. The fact is that I got this warning after two edits since 15 September (one 3 October and one in 8 October) looking at the page history and an admin told me that "Looking at the history again I admit the warning was perhaps a bit premature" on my talkpage. I feel that I was not edit warring and that I was totally correct removing what was edited against given source (so it was vandalism). If the editor edited both source and number in table before reverting it, then it would have been edit warring over source, but now it was just disruptive/vandalism when editing against a given source.  QED 237   (talk)  21:16, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I've replied to this on your user-page, no point in spreading this discussion out on different talkpages. Mentoz86 (talk) 18:45, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Parameters
Hi mate, you're right, there is no difference. The only reason I changed it was because the "deprecated" parameters align better with the rest. – PeeJay 18:13, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but I'm not going to go out of my way to change any myself. If a bot has to change a lot of articles, one or two more aren't going to make a difference. My primary concern is making the templates line up so they look neater for editors. – PeeJay 10:51, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

WikiCup 2013 October newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is. Our final nine were as follows:

All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:


 * wins the FA prize, for four featured articles in round 4, worth 400 points.
 * wins the GA prize, for 20 good articles in round 3, worth 600 points.
 * wins the FL prize, for four featured lists in round 2, worth 180 points.
 * wins the FP prize, for 23 featured pictures in round 5, worth 805 point.
 * wins the FPo prize, for 2 featured portals in round 3, worth 70 points.
 * wins the topic prize, for a 23-article featured topic in round 5, worth 230 points.
 * wins the DYK prize, for 79 did you know articles in round 5, worth 570 points.
 * wins the ITN prize, for 23 in the news articles in round 4, worth 270 points.
 * wins the GAR prize, for 24 good article reviews in round 1, worth 96 points.
 * The judges are awarding the Oddball Barnstar to, for some curious contributions in earlier rounds.
 * Finally, the judges are awarding the Geography Barnstar for her work on sea, now a featured article. This top-importance article was the highest-scoring this year; when it was promoted to FA status, Cwmhiraeth could claim 720 points.

Prizes will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 01:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Maicon
Hi Mentoz86, I'm really sorry I didn't participate in the RM discussion, I did see your message but have been very busy in life and by the time I got back round to it it had closed. It's a shame that there was no consensus as I agree with you on the PT. If you open another RM (I would recommend at least six months) then let me know and I will hopefully contribute. Regards. Zarcadia (talk) 22:51, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it got shot down real hard, so I don't think I'll go ahead and open another RM anytime soon. But thanks for your support, when your RM gets 5 oppose votes and none supports, it gives your self-esteem a crack! :) Mentoz86 (talk) 08:53, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Gibraltarian football biography stubs
It's a case of WP:IAR. The Faroese category should also exist. GiantSnowman 10:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Please stop adding Soviet Union as a birthplace
Please stop adding Soviet Union as a birthplace. This has been discussed to the death in multiple venues, over and over. -- Sander Säde 08:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not adding anything. I just realized that an editor has removed this in several articles without discussion, I'm just reverting what I believe is against consensus. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:44, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Kjell Moe DYK nom
Hello! Your submission of Kjell Moe at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Iselilja (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Cristian Benavente
Cristian is a Spanish Peruvian, he was born in Spain to Spanish father and Peruvian mother. He does play for Peru, but I do not know if he renounced his Spanish citizenship (highly unlikely). Similar to the actress Grace Park being born in the United States, but grew up in Canada. I hate when editors feud over the point. Thanks! Raul17 (talk) 18:13, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, when it comes to footballers the easiest thing is too name the nationality after what national team they represented. The case is slightly different with Grace Park, as she doesn't "represent" any of the nations she has lived in. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:50, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. A very bad example! The best I have seen that handles that well is Pepe's page: "Born in Brazil, Pepe represented Portugal at international level." The best excuse for my position is ice hockey's Darius Kasparaitis. He played for Russia, but he doesn't himself Russian, but Lithuanian. Is there anything wrong with Rubén Belima's description? Thanks! Raul17 (talk) 22:29, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the way it is done in Pepe's article is a the best way of describing this. I don't know about Belima, but there is a big difference between being born somewhere and being born and raised somewhere. If you take a couple of Norwegian-Americans as an example: Brede Hangeland was born in Houston (when his father was working there) and grew up in Norway, so in my opinion it is wrong to describe him as an "American-born Norwegian footballer". On the other side, Mikkel Diskerud was born in Norway and has lived in Norway his entire life, but chose to play for the United States national team - to describe him as a Norwegian-born American footballer is reasonable, but the way it is described in Pepe's article is the best option. Mentoz86 (talk) 22:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I will use the Pepe example for those "multi-national" players. Thanks for your time & help!! Raul17 (talk) 01:02, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

"League performance"
Hello Mentoz86, I am currently in a dispute with users JMHamo and Qed237 over the use of "league performance" rather than "results by round". They're arguing that a consensus was reached to call it league performance, while the only consensus I read was that there aren't rounds in the Premier League. So I argued against the use of "league performance", a vague term in itself, given that the league table, the results summary, and the matches sections are all indicative of how a club performed in the league as well. I move to have it changed to "results by matchday." What is your opinion? Italia2006 (talk) 13:50, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I have the talkpage on my watchlist, so I commented on the dispute the moment I got this message. Thank you for sending me this notification. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:54, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for finally, pending the reply of our two friends, the dispute on the Liverpool talk page. Like others on your talk page I agree you should run for adminship. Italia2006 (talk) 14:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/2013–14 Harvard Crimson men's basketball team
Please revisit Template:Did you know nominations/2013–14 Harvard Crimson men's basketball team.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Recall that this is a date request for the 10th.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:22, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kjell Moe
The DYK project (nominate) 08:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Reidar Olsen
The DYK project (nominate) 08:49, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

As of last count, this user is #1869 of active Wikipedians.
You are now number 1869:


 * Hehe, thanks for the update. I haven't updated my user-page in a while, I might consider doing it soon. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 09:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations;) Have you considered running for adminship? I think you would be an excellent candidate and the tools might come in handy once in a while. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 09:45, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) It's funny that you ask, cause it was in September 2012 the last time someone asked me the same question - maybe I'm a good candidate for adminship that particular month? Though it isn't the number of edits that makes someone a good admin, my edit-count is kinda big because I enjoy gnomish work like stub-sorting and adding project banner. My position on adminship hasn't changed much in the last year; I might consider to become an admin at some point, but I'm not going to do anything actively to become an admin, until someone actually asks me if they can nominate me for WP:RFA. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Mentoz, I just saw this. So, can I nominate you for RfA? :) My position on this hasn't changed since last year either - I think you would almost certainly pass, and I think you would have passed easily last year as well. If you want to run, I'll write you up a glowing nomination statement, and all you will have to do is answer the questions that come up in the RfA. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll get started on that statement. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 10:29, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Is it a coincidence, or did you that I was thinking that the next would be the best time to go through the RfA-prosess? :p If you want to nominate me for adminship, I'd gratefully accept. Mentoz86 (talk) 17:12, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe it was meant to be this way then. :) I have created a nomination page for you at Requests for adminship/Mentoz86. Please answer the questions, and sign below my nomination saying that you accept. You can take your time doing this - there's no rush, and people will read your answers carefully. Also, if you want someone to co-nominate you, now is the time to ask. That's strictly optional though, so you don't have to if you don't feel like it. And if you haven't yet read Guide to requests for adminship, now would be a good time. When you're ready, let me know here, and I'll start things off for you. Best — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 08:33, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I noticed you created it yesterday (for some reason I had the page on my watchlist), but I haven't had any time to do anything about it. I've read that guide, and will answer the questions when I have time. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:42, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

@Iselilja, as you were the one who brought this up, would you like to co-nominate me? Mentoz86 (talk) 11:57, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * With pleasure, of course. Otherwise, I would have elaborated a bit in my support vote. -- I am not as experienced as Mr. Stradivarius, but I have followed a couple of RfAs and I am very confident you will pass. What can never be guaranteed though, as you can see in the RfA guide, is that the process will be totally smooth and pleasant. There may always be some users who in a scrutiny process will find this and that AfD votes or CDSs that weren’t quite good and focus on that. I have also seen a tendency in some RfAs that some voters regard the Q&A section almost as a bar examination and are very quick to voice concern if they find any question less than perfect. But most voters are soundly able to focus on the broad picture and not distracted by this or that occasional mistake. In general, the community likes no-drama users who are focused on building the encyclopedia and don’t spend too much time in needless conflicts and meta-dramas. I believe your history of vast experience in content building and a few admin areas; pleasant interaction with other users, combined with little drama will sit very well with the community. Regards, Iselilja (talk)

16:39, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


 * @Iselilja - Thank you for wanting to co-nominate me. I've read your mail, and I'm ready for this ;) I'm currently working on answering those first three questions (offline), so if you could add the co-nomination statement below Mr. Stradivarius opening comment, we are soon ready to start it off. Mentoz86 (talk) 18:47, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * @Mr. Stradivarius - I've now answered the questions. What do you think? I think I'll submit it tomorrow morning (European time) if you don't have any advice on something I should fix. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * For question three I think it would be better to give a couple of specific disputes that you have had, complete with links. For this question, people are looking to see how you handle conflict in real life, not just what you think about handling conflict in general. The most persuasive thing you can do is to give actual examples. Other than that, the answers look good to me. Grammar-wise, I would remove the commas before "is closing discussions like AfD" and "as I have in AfD" in question one, and I would add "is" after "that is what Wikipedia" in question three. Once you've done these, it should be good to go. Good luck! — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 21:41, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the feedback. I have added an example, what do you think? Mentoz86 (talk) 07:15, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, that is better. The only things left now are grammar-related. For example, it should be "how the process works", not "how the process work"; and "the GA is about", not "the GA are about". Also, please use a spell-checker! There are no such words as "despute" or "attetnion". :) People commenting will pick up on things like this - don't be surprised if someone asks you a question about your English. Other than that, it looks good to me. Feel free to start it after you've decided how to deal with my suggestions, or I can start it myself if you would prefer. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 07:36, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added another "conflict" from a year back, it would probably be brought up anyways. What do you think? Mentoz86 (talk) 09:17, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it looks like we have a winner. :) If you give me the word, I will start it, or you can do so yourself if you want. — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:31, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've started it. Let me know if I screwed up. Thank you for your help. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:40, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * No, I'm impressed - you managed to subst and transclude it correctly first time. That's not something that everyone manages to get right. :) Good luck! — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 09:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I believe I read somewhere that it was a quality-sign to do stuff like that yourself, instead of asking the nominator. So I thought I had to do it right ;) Mentoz86 (talk) 09:51, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * @Iselilja - Thank you for your support, and sorry for not waiting for your co-nomination statement. Since the RfA-process requires a lot of time, I thought I had to start as soon as I was ready, because it is this week I have a lot of spare time to go through this. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:41, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing to be sorry about at all. My mistake solely for not following up timely, but I don't think you lost anything by that. I was happy to see that the process has gone so speedily and you have also been good at following up the questions. Now, I am just excited to see what happens first: You become an admin or Magnus Carlsen a world champion in chess; might be a good week for Norwegian sports ;) - (Talkpage stalkers: I am just joking). Regards, Iselilja (talk) 13:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Are you still here? People are awaiting your answers to questions 12-14. :) I wouldn't worry too much about having perfect answers; just answer them as best you can, and double-check the relevant notability guidelines before you hit "save page". Again, good luck! — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 08:08, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am. Had an ill headache yesterday, and sitting in front of the computer only made it worse. Have now answered those questions. Thank you, Mentoz86 (talk) 11:44, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Request / What the hey?
Hi there MENTOZ, how's it going? Hopefully well,

1 - can you please provide some refs (one or two will be more than enough) for Odion Ighalo's spell in your country? I definitely covered his Udinese and Granada tenure.

2 - really odd this message i see you received (see here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mentoz86#Please_stop_adding_Soviet_Union_as_a_birthplace), i'd really like to see where's the consensus this user speaks of. Speaking of an article we both know well, Vadim Demidov was born in the Soviet Union, PERIOD (so this user has no right saying what he said to you)! And that's what i will add to articles where persons/players are born before any given territory (Russia, Lithuania, Latvia, Azerbaijan, etc)'s independence.

Cheers, many thanks in advance concerning #1, if you can't add anything that's OK, article is better than what it was as we stand, modesty aside. I hope i'm not sounding too "WP:OWN" and arrogant over #2, but what Sander Säde is saying makes ZERO sense to me (if Lithuania was made independent on 11 March 1990 and a person/player was born there on 10 March 1990, why should i write said individual was born in Lithuania when the correct form is Soviet Union?), maybe you can explain it to me better and i'll cool off. --AL (talk) 03:10, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Only a request now (no "what the heys") :) How's your Swedish? Fine thank you very much i think, so could you please add the trans_title for the last ref found in Josué Pesqueira? There are those who don't know how to lose (my countrymen José Mourinho and Cristiano Ronaldo are two of the best in the world at that) and, from what i see in Josué, there are those who also don't know how to win. Sometimes, however, players only react to whatever is being thrown at them (sometimes LITERALLY!) from the stands, don't know if it was Josué's case here, but what i know is he's somewhat of an enfant terrible of Portuguese football, like a Portuguese Erik Mykland.

Thanks in advance, cheers! --AL (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Well? It will take you less than ONE MINUTE i believe, i could use the Google Translator, but the translation would be very poor, can you PLEASE help? --AL (talk) 15:55, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, i was very hasty, sorry for that. Nice work and thank you, and may that headache (and the following!) be cured. Ah, and regarding the first part of your message, i don't archive my messages, it's a bot, don't know how he operates the slightest :( --AL (talk) 20:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Many thanks for the tip, you take care please. --AL (talk) 21:00, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Your RfA
You're part-way through your trial by fire and you're at 77% which is good.

Chin up! This is the hardest part but it only lasts a week. ;-) Liz  Read! Talk! 22:47, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Mentoz86 (talk) 21:08, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Good luck. Blethering  Scot  22:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! :) Mentoz86 (talk) 22:37, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Vollen Ungdomslag
Hi Mentoz (god luck with the rest of the RFA, doing well so far!) - is Vollen Ungdomslag aka Vollen UL a notable sports/football team? They currently play in the 4th division but I cannot find any sources if they have played higher / in the Cup? GiantSnowman 13:49, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I'm a bit curious how you from Scotland discovered this Norwegian amateur side. :P Their website doesn't indicate that they are the slightest professional. Their profile at nifs.no (Amedia's stats-site), shows that the team played at the fourth tier (the 3. divisjon) between 2006 and 2009, and qualified for the Norwegian Football Cup in 2007 and 2008, where they were elimanted by Mjøndalen IF and Skeid Fotball respectively, and was eliminated in the qualifying phase in 2006 and 2009. WhatLinksHere indicates that the team also played at the fourth tier in 1992 (and that is confirmed by ), and they could have played there prior to 1992 as that year are the first of our fourth-tier articles, so we have to search through RSSSF archives to find out. This useful tool indicates however that they hasn't played at the third tier at all (unless the list is incomplete, but RSSSF claim that it is complete). To sum up, it meets our convention that teams that have participated in the Norwegian Cup or played in the 3. divisjon are notable, but I'm not certain whether such an article would meet GNG (though most articles about 3. Divisjon-only teams doesn't). Hope this helps. Mentoz86 (talk) 21:35, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I found the club because this guy is their manager. GiantSnowman 09:45, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

2013 Valdresekspressen hijacking
I just saw you reported User:Funny linguist as a possible sock on the basis of this article. I was about to revert it to my last version and then recast it using the more recent sources they found, but was still rather hoping they would engage on the talk page, because I'm well aware it's a touchy topic and they might well have been able to persuade me to change my mind on some things. Letting you know in case you want to rework it first; I don't often do news events but came upon this in a miserable state after seeing it in the In the News section of the Norwegian Wikipedia Main Page, so I feel somewhat responsible for it. If no one else does so first, expect me to get to it within the next 24 hours. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that 24 hours has passes, and that you've gone ahead and done your changes. What I would have done in this article is either reverting to this version or removing most of their edits, and re-add some of with using my own words, which seems to be what you've done. Yes, Sju hav makes some constructive edits, and have also changed my mind on other things, but they keep on editing disruptively if someone disagree with them. The sockmaster will probably return with another account (like they've already done) to edit that article. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I can't quite figure their angle but was a bit frustrated ... and I had wondered about that other new editor while but then their user page went blue from a banned sockpuppet notice. However, I am not at all sure I've got it NPOV (or up to date) and have left an update to that effect on the talk page. edited it earlier; I'm hoping for some further assistance from Norwegian editors. Thanks for looking. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. I took a look at the current version, and I think it looks quite fine. The sentence "The hijacker killed the driver and both passengers with a knife" might do with a qualification since there is no verdict yet, but I guess it's debatable how much qualifications we shall make when the facts appear quite clear (and are presented as such by the media). I am going to remove the "murder in Norway" category added by sockpuppet, since we don't have a conviction yet. I indicated on the talk page that I planned to expand the article, and I did in fact have a thought about trying to do a five-fold expansion and nominate for DYK, but I was distracted partly by the sockpuppet edits and then some other things outside the article, and now I have pretty much lost interest in it. Ideally, it should of course be expanded and needs ongoing update about the suspect/trial, but since we are so few editing about Norway, it's more the rule than exeption than the quality of articles end up somewhat lacking. - I have to confess that I was quite aware all the time who the "mastermind" behind the Funny Linguist was. I have a probably regrettable tendency to sometimes give him a pass if he is editing relatively benevolently and not committing BLP violations. But he was involved in BLP editing in at least one of the other accounts that the CU found "Now they turn the woman who destroyed the police's computer system—into the governments datasjef", so it's a good thing he was reported. And I should have reported him anyway, since he was causing trouble for you. So sorry for that. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 23:22, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah I see - no worries, and I've implemented both your suggestions for now to be on the safe side. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:16, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Stian Ohr
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for 2013 Tippeligaen
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Someone raised an issue about the hook for this one at WP:Main Page/Errors, and after looking at the article, I changed it from "titles" to "title". However, I note the infobox lists them as winning more than one distinction this season, so if that was what you meant, let me know - preferably at the Main Page/Errors thread, for neatness - and I'll undo the change. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * Thank you. I guess I should save the beer and drink it while watching Champions League tonight. ;) Mentoz86 (talk) 12:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Congratulations on being our newest administrator! Feel free to contact me or other administrators for any clarification on any administrative issue. Best wishes. Wifione  Message 10:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will. ;)


 * Congratulations! Take the beer to relax and maybe celebrate a tiny bit. Now you can focus on football again, with a few extra tools to help you contribute in a few more ways. Happy face ball.jpg Iselilja (talk) 11:30, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you but shouldn't I wait until friday? Norwegians don't drink alcohol in the weekdays, we wait until the weekend when we drink way too much, don't we? :P Mentoz86 (talk) 12:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 10:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for closing it, I was some minutes there after it was "overdue" till you closed it, where I all of the sudden became very nervous. :) Thanks for posting these useful links. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Congratulations and good luck! ''' Jianhui67 talk ★ contribs 11:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations and Best Wishes.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 12:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations Mentoz! It was closer than I thought it would be, but I'm extremely glad that we got the right result in the end. Let me know if you have any questions about using your new buttons. :) — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 13:46, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it was kinda close, but after the last two question, I had a good feeling and could relax, just following the responses without doing anything else. And indeed, there are new buttoms. I guess I should get an alternate account to use on my cell, misclicking now is much worse than it was a couple of days ago. ;) Mentoz86 (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! Always good to have more Admins at WP:FOOTY JMHamo (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Just let me know if you need help from someone with "the mop". Mentoz86 (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Welcome to the dark side! &mdash; Coffee // <font color="#009900">have a cup  // <font color="#4682b4">beans  // 19:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought this was the bright side? :) Mentoz86 (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Congratulations, really pleased for you. Blethering  Scot  21:35, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Congrats! ///Euro Car  GT  22:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well done. When you get fed up with the faff of finding the right block message when blocking people have a look at my monobook - some kind person put some code in there that gives you a nifty menu that places an appropriate template when you pick the right block reason.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  23:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Will have a look at it. :) Mentoz86 (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Shall I add my congrats too?? Really a deserving user.. Happy admin days...!!! <font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0em 0em 0.8em,#FF4500 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#90EE90 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#696969">Herald<font style="color:Green"> talk with me 16:06, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations, and good luck. Be aware of disruptive users though—they're the ones you're going to have to use your mop on. Epicgenius (talk) 15:05, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * My congrats as well, and I wish you a pleasant and productive adminship! Jus  da  fax   00:37, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

My edits
If you must revert my edits, an explanation as to why would seem to be a minimum?--Egghead06 (talk) 05:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry - I was using my phone to fix something related to WP:DYK, and while doing this I thought I misclicked the WP:ROLLBACK buttom, but when I checked the history of WT:FOOTY it was no sign of my revert so I thought I was lucky to escape a misclick. If I ever believe I've misclicked that buttom, I will check more carefully. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 08:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Flagicons 2014 Tippeligaen
Hi! I see you removed the flags from the manager section. I would like to point out that pretty much every league season article use flags to specify the managers nationality. And in the modern world of international football, the nationality of a player, or a manager is relevant information which should be stated. Of 2013-14 top league articles for UEFA, only Norway, Scotland and Slovakia lists managers without using a flag. And I feel that the Norwegian article as well should follow the established norm. --Kjello (talk) 22:55, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Mentoz86 (talk) 03:00, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Request page protection for Neymar
Hi Mentoz, repeated vandalism (almost always by ip user) on Neymar article, and given it is one of the most visited sports bios on wiki (and add in the fact it's World Cup year so the traffic is only going to increase), I'm requesting Page protection (probably a one year lock) which should take care of it. Cheers.Chie one (talk) 15:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, after my 24h semi-protection, I monitored the article to see if there was any more vandalism, to figure out if I should semi-protect it long-term or not, but was sleeping when you sent me this message. Fortunately, Mattythewhite protected the article for a month. Btw - why do you write that you wrote this post at 15:51 (UTC), when you wrote it 20:13 (UTC)? Mentoz86 (talk) 03:08, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mathis Bolly
Hello! Your submission of Mathis Bolly at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! FairyTailRocks (talk) 09:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mathis Bolly
Orlady (talk) 23:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Stora Blåsjön
Mentoz86, I was wondering whether you could revisit this review to see if BabbaQ has done what you asked—thank you for asking for it, by the way—and the nomination is ready to proceed. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reminding me about this one. Cheers, Mentoz86 (talk) 14:14, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/List of defunct men's college basketball conferences in the United States
Hello! Can I request for a review to my nomination per above for WP:DYK? It hasn't been reviewed for almost seven days. Thanks in advance! FairyTailRocks (talk) 04:44, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Bilgin Defterli
Hi! Pls recheck the a.m. DYK nom and let me know if further claim exist. Cheers. --CeeGee 17:40, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2014 WikiCup!
Hello Mentoz86, and welcome to the 2014 WikiCup! Your submission page can be found here. The competition will begin at midnight tonight (UTC). There have been a few small changes from last year; the rules can be read in full at WikiCup/Scoring, and the page also includes a summary of changes. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work, and nominated, in 2014 is eligible for points in the competition- the judges will be checking! As ever, this year's competition includes some younger editors. If you are a younger editor, you are certainly welcome, but we have written an advice page at WikiCup/Advice for younger editors for you. Please do take a look. Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! , and  17:32, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: User:Bj94
Hi, Merry Christmas to you too. I agree, a v4im warning then a block, and considering it's the same individual as the IP the length ought to be determined by the IP's last block. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 23:39, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year to you too. How certain are you that Bj94 is the same individual as 85.89.0.161?  Do you know the IPs he/she used in between these accounts?  Just I don't want to give this individual a long-term block if he/she isn't the same as the original IP. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 20:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Arne Pedersen
Hello! Your submission of Arne Pedersen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 10:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * There is a new issue to be addressed. Please stop by. Many thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 01:42, 16 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Mentoz86, there was an issue with your proposed ALT2. I've just proposed an ALT3 and ALT4 to deal with it—ALT3 uses a similar fact to ALT2, while ALT4 goes in a slightly different direction. Can you please stop by and give your opinions of them? I'd love for this nomination to finally be approved (though I imagine you'd love it far more than I would). Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Arne Pedersen
Orlady (talk) 08:04, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Thor Heyerdahl Upper Secondary School
Hello! Your submission of Thor Heyerdahl Upper Secondary School at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 23:49, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Re: Magnus Wolff Eikrem
No worries, mate. I just realised I reverted a bit further than I should have as well! – PeeJay 21:50, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Stewart Mell
Hello. Not sure what makes you think Mr Mell's scoring Scarborough's first League goal isn't included in the citation. The Observer piece entitled "Wolves send in the clowns" contains the wording "So began the League of experience of Scarborough, last year's winners of the GM Conference...", which verifies the match as their first in the League, and then "And after nine minutes Mell, a Doncaster fireman and last season's leading scorer, put Scarborough ahead from an incisive pass from Hamill." Seems pretty explicit to me. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:37, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's clear enough, and accurate. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:08, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Helge Haugen
Hello! Your submission of Helge Haugen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Iselilja (talk) 08:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC)