User talk:Vanished user 24kwjf10h32h/Archive 28

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Please note that you are being discussed at the above noticeboard. Cheers, Tiptoety  talk 02:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

GA
Hi, I might not be very hiogh on your list of people you want to hear from given that i was part of the above ANI thread. However, I'm just informing you that I intend to reassess Breakout (Miley Cyrus song). In future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could take a little more time over your reviews. If an article has issues, you can place it "on hold" until they're fixed. GA reviewing requires a lot of patience and, often, a considerable amount of time. Take a look around WP:GA, WP:GAN and other places, where there are both brief and detailed guidelines on how to make a critique. I'm sorry our paths crossed under negative circumstances twice in one day, but if you need a hand, just yell. HJMitchell   You rang?   03:18, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

User:DiarmuidPigott
Given that you're very close to driving away a casual contributor I think it would be best if you stayed away from User:DiarmuidPigott and the articles he has been writing on (including Electric lamellophone and Guitaret) for now, and let someone else work with him on these articles. Again, your contributions and help are very welcome, but poor interactions and throwing the entire rulebook on new users directly can easily cause them to lose hope and give up, something we can't afford. henrik • talk  13:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

File:Ready for the Victory Special Russian Version.jpg listed for deletion
An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Ready for the Victory Special Russian Version.jpg, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Peripitus (Talk) 22:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

On Fluorescent Grey
Hello. I've been gone most of this week so I was just able to see your review of Fluorescent Grey EP. I'm wondering why you didn't place the article on hold and give me a chance, especially for one this short. 1b and 3b are Neutral with no rationale. You've left no examples of where the article isn't MOS-compliant, how the article is not neutral or contains fancruft, or why the use of primary sources is a problem. I have little useful to work with for improving this article.

The biggest issue is probably the use of primary sources, which I can address. WP:PRIMARY has not been violated: the article is not entirely based on the use of the Deerhunter blog, no synthesized or interpretative claims have been made based on these sources, and the information is "verifiable by any educated person without specialist knowledge." I don't see how it's that different from an interview done by a music publication. This is not as "primary" a source as the music itself; making interpretive claims with these Deerhunter blog posts would not be that different from doing the same with a Deerhunter interview on another website.

I'm asking you to reconsider your quick-fail on the article. If you think it has a serious problem that can't be dealt with in a week, then please go into more detail on what that is. --gakon5 (talk / contribs) 00:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, it's up. --gakon5 (talk / contribs) 03:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Modern Talking remix singles
Hello man,

Today you have removed my edition of Modern Talking singles list. Why? Those "remix-singles" like It's Christmas or Do You Wanna are bootlegs like hunderds of other, were not released by Hansa, Ariola, BMG or any other record company. You have another releases like these here: http://moderntalkingpoint.com/24981/25035.html or here: http://moderntalkingpoint.com/24981/310672.html or here: http://moderntalkingpoint.com/24981/533949.html. There are even some mixes made by me just for fun, someone downloaded them, and started to sell on the ebay. Please, simply make the single-list as close to the official as it's possible. Maybe this site can help you: http://dieterbohlen.newmail.ru/DBsingles.htm. Feel free to use http://www.moderntalking.pl/mt/index.php?strona=single.htm as well.

Best regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.15.208.12 (talk) 15:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, but the songs will not be removed, since all the group's songs have to be included on the navbar. :) -- MW  talk   contribs  15:23, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Chilean people
Te escribo en castellano, por que se que eres chileno, y encuentro absurdo que entre chilenos nos comuniquemos en ingles. las modifficaciones que he ehcho de l articulo Chilean People, no son mas que hacer volver al articuloa su estructura originaria, la que matuvo por mas de un año, antes que llegaran un grupo de editores con sesgos proindeginistas y latinoamericanistas, que desconoceindo los `yultimos estudiso geneteicos efectuados por la U. de Chile, y el completisimo estudio del Proffesor LIZCANO de la UNAM, insisten en presentar a Chile como un pais mestizo, tipicamente latinoamericano, violentando con ello las fuentes estipuladas en el mismo articulo, haciendolo contradictorio. Este animus vandalico llega al extremo de colocar puras fotografias de gente pobre, al contrario de lo que se hace en otros articulos similares sobre grupos etnicos, en que colocan como era en un principio, solo gente notable del grupo etnico en cuestiòn.- Oye estos son los mismos editores que en la seccion economia del articulo sobre Chile, insisten en colocar a nuestro pais con un porcentaje de 20 % de extrema pobreza, sin recurrir a ffuente alguna, tal como lo hacen en el tema etnico en que solo se basan en un simpel mapa de otro articulo de wikipedia sobre un tal Riberiro.- Oye es increible apreciar como los argentinos de diversas ideologias incluso los de izquierda magnifican su herencia europea, mientras los chilenos de izquierda desconcoeuindo las fuentesdel propio articulo la minimizan de mala fe, provocando un fuerte daño a nuestra imagen, te lo digo por que yo trabajo en el rubro viniticola, y por Dios que los argentinos le sacan el jugo a su europeiadad , para aventajarnos en el concepto de imagen o marca pais cuando compiten con nuestros productos.- Saludos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.46.53.131 (talk) 21:40, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. -- MW  talk   contribs  21:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Américo
Américo is only a media phenomenon (just as went Axe Bahia, La Noche or other), but can not be considered a great Chilean abroad besides is not known with the exception of Chile and Peru.--Ccrazymann (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hello? First of all Hide your threatening tone, last warning? what were the previus? and finally stop vandalize an article with images gleaned from his family, now denounces an administrator of Wikipedia.190.209.46.146 (talk) 04:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * The pictures are NOT from my family. And stop. I requested your block. -- MW  talk   contribs  04:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

First you should improve your English is very poor, only one council.190.209.46.146 (talk) 05:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * First, you should keep quiet. -- MW  talk   contribs  05:02, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Both of you would be wise to refrain from characterizing edits you don't like as "vandalism", and from writing on each other's user talk page. Concentrate on the article. (See below.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Chilean people
You're in a dispute with another editor over Chilean people. I have protected this article. Please discuss the matter, coolly and rationally, at Talk:Chilean people. (I've just now given the same advice to the other editor.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:21, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposal
Since you like to create collages I would like you to read the proposal in Talk:Chilean people and hopefully accept the challange, so article can archieve stability. Dentren |  Ta lk  20:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- MW  talk   contribs  20:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Block history

 * A question. There have been "Diegogrez" and "MisterWiki's F". Have you used any other names? (Please think carefully.) -- Hoary (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have created doppelganger accounts, all of these are on my log http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=newusers&user=MisterWiki&page=&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1
 * You know I'm not using my account for dark purposes or something else. I was blocked with the other account more than 2 years ago, the same as happened in es.wiki . As I said, I'm a good editor and I don't deserve this block. Thanks. -- MW  talk   contribs  01:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Musicfan48 is also a know sp. -- m:drini 01:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes that one too. -- MW  talk   contribs  01:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LoveModernTallking too, but I don't remember to have used it. -- MW  talk   contribs  01:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Glad to help you freshen your memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/LoveModernTallking -- m:drini 01:51, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh. But that's not a bad edit. -- MW  talk   contribs  01:53, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, but that's still evading block. I wonder would you need so many accounts? -- m:drini 02:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I created 'LoveModernTallking' to use in es.wiki. I don't know why do I used it here. Sorry. The other ones are because I was blocked with Diegogrez. -- MW  talk   contribs  02:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Si hay algo que haya aprendido mientras estuve bloqueado, es que no hay que repetir las cosas malas. Yo ya aprendí que fue lo que hice y no quiero seguir repitiendolo. De otro modo, ya habría vandalizado o hecho otras cosas con esta cuenta. -- MW  talk   contribs  02:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Please don't keep repeating that you're a good editor. I get the impression that you are a well-intentioned editor who makes plenty of good edits, but my impression of you isn't improved by what I suspect is not intended as boasting (English doesn't seem to be your first language) but does look like it.

You were really young when you did the really silly stuff discussed above. When I was that age I behaved stupidly too -- luckily for the world, Wikipedia didn't exist back then. Let's not talk about what happened two years ago. Instead let's hear about 2009. Now, think hard: is there anything else (any other usernames, etc) that you should confess to? (If you suspect so but don't remember well, stop and look in edit histories, etc.)

Also, I'd like to hear your proposals for the next three weeks or so. You say that editing WP is fun, and I'd agree that it can be and I hope that it can be for you too; but (no matter how innocent the fun is) you're unlikely to be unblocked so that you can pursue enjoyment. I'd like to see (i) a statement that in the near future you intend to improve this or that article or area of articles, using this or that source material, and also (ii) a statement on how you'll behave differently in future conflicts.

Please don't rush your answers: they'll be better for careful thought, and you and Wikipedia will survive without each other for a day or more. Also, no more apologies: just informative statements about past facts and future intentions, please. -- Hoary (talk) 04:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I just used User:LoveModernTallking cassually in August 2009, because I didn't log out in es.wiki. It's important to say that it is just 1 edit. -- MW  talk   contribs  05:04, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

His previous to last remark:
 * Comment.
 * Si hay algo que haya aprendido mientras estuve bloqueado, es que no hay que repetir las cosas malas. Yo ya aprendí que fue lo que hice y no quiero seguir repitiendolo. De otro modo, ya habría vandalizado o hecho otras cosas con esta cuenta. -- MW 

translates to
 * If there's anything I've learned while blocked, is that you don't have to repeat bad things. I've learned about what I did and I don't want to keep on repeating. Otherwise, I'd have already vandalized or done other stuff with this account.

However: he was blocked and he was subject of several warnigns on his original account before.

Also be noticed: and the very very odd self-warning for sockpuppetry:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Diegogrez
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Diegogrez_%282nd%29
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADiegogrez&action=historysubmit&diff=200167571&oldid=181531454 (so he did know a year ago socking was wrong).

Also he's had the Bodoque57 account (which hardly can be justified to "prevent impersonation".

So in all, he claims that he "learned" and won't do the same things again (which we've all heard before). However his behaviour on other wikis show he's got no problem breaking the rules he's promised not to.

EXAMPLES:
 * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MisterWiki#Blocked shows a long trail of fake license claims on commons, after his earlier accounts were blocked for uploading copyvios.
 * On eswiki, he requested a 3rd unblock, on december 12, yet while the unblock request was open he vandalized as IP. After the unblock was declined, he created a new sockpuppet to edit 3 days after the last unblock was declined. ( dec 26)  (deleted contribs on dec 29).
 * Also yesterday he harassed other users (ip is same he was using at IRC meanwhile).

Now, his Commons and eswiki actions are dealt on those wikis (which were grounds for his new blocks), but they're certainly indicative of the level of trust that can be put on "promises" not to break the rules anymore and the sincerity of the "I've learned not to do bad stuff". -- m:drini 18:19, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * All of the images I uploaded to commons using my account are mine, except the ones like Luis Rodríguez (producer) and Nora Balling.
 * I did not vandalized using User:SeñorWiki. But it was blocked anyway.
 * No, but you avoided block after 3rd decliend request and after you promised not to do it again. -- m:drini 18:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you are only pursuing me. I also gave my apologies to User:Diegusjaimes in IRC. -- MW  talk   contribs  18:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * So you accept you vandalize and insult users as IP yesterday. And it's me who's pursuing? -- m:drini 18:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I just want to fulfill the errors I did in the past. And all of the pictures I uploaded to Commons are entirely useful. -- MW  talk   contribs  18:45, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Useful and copyright violations. But once again, that's for you to argue in the other wiki. -- m:drini 18:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * They are not copyright violations. Are my photos. -- MW  talk   contribs  18:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not discussing your commons block here anymore, it's not the place. FACT is that you used a sockpuppet to upload copyright violations which were the reason for your previous block there. you may be seeking release /now/ but that doesn't change the fact that when you upload, you did it with false claims. Your personal files weren't deleted, but the ones from websites were.

One again: your commons issues are not to be discussed here but there, I just pointed to them as example of how you don't keep your promises and you don't learn. -- m:drini 19:11, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Autoblock cleared. All 7 (!) of them. –xenotalk 20:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)