User talk:Vanished user 342562/Archive 8

Semi-retired
Why? --Checco (talk) 08:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just have other things in real life I have to do. I'll still keep the blog running, and I'll still nominate you at RfA whenever you're ready! :)  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 14:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, fine. I thought that you had some problems with someone in Wikipedia or that you was disappointed by something. Definitely Wikipedia is a sort of illness which makes you loose plenty of time! It is probably better to postpone my nomination. I'm working hard on my MA thesis and I won't be able to be in Wikipedia continously during the summer. I could change my mind and I tell you that I am ready before, but for now that's what I think. What do you say about it? --Checco (talk) 16:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

NICE!
I think I got it, you were missing the "titleparts" stuff to truncate the user variable because of all the spaces after the username in the region lists. – xeno cidic ( talk ) 17:05, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Parallel Sailor Moon
I agree with Artichoker, I think it would be best to change the header on that AFD to say the result was "Merge and Redirect" instead of "Keep". Useight (talk) 21:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please also do the same on the AfD notice on the page. Also, I think you are not an admin, correct? If not, please note that it was a non-admin closure. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 22:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

What is Around the World?
It's a collaboration!

A collaboration using advanced wiki-tools!

The event is being co-sponsored by Wikiproject Lists of basic topics and WikiProject Geography, and participants will be "traveling" all around "the World" visiting each country online (here on Wikipedia) as they apply advanced wiki-tools to improve pieces of the profiles of each and every country on Earth!. Each pass through these pages is a "trip around the World..."

The set of pages we are working is currently located at WikiProject Lists of basic topics.

Each page presents essential information on each country in a topic outline format, for ease of overviewing and navigating. Most of the topics presented are linkified, which turns these pages into a hypertextual map to material about each country on Wikipedia. When completed, they shall all become part of Wikipedia's contents system.

The pages share a standard format, with the information on each country presented in the same general order. So rather than getting stuck on a single country trying to complete it, each participant works on all 200+ political entities, completing a single data item or detail across all of the pages!

For this they use advanced tools like WP:AWB, Linky, etc. It goes fast, and since others are doing this at the same time, it makes "the World" feel like a beehive, and the participants are its bees. :) The energy is contagious.

And since you are moving from country to country, the tasks make it feel like you are traveling around the world, and you get to learn a little about every country as you do so. This approach also allows for greater efficiency, because by the time you've done 30 or so of a particular item, you've figured out how to finish it faster and more effectively (such as where to find the data or how to make adjustments), and this specialization speeds up development - but more importantly it reduces errors.

The tasks are varied, which adds even more variety to the project. Some tasks are look-ups-and-fill-ins, some are copy and paste, some are image hunts, some are maintenance adjustments, some are link fixing, some are blue-linking (creating an underlying redirect so a link turns blue), some are fact checking, etc.

Standing by to help are co-coordinators, who can lend a helping hand to participants, provide instruction and tips on how to use the tools, and help them find what they are looking for. Co-coordinators also use advanced tools to inspect the work of participants, and touch it up as needed, or if a task was done wrong throughout, point this out to the participant so he or she can make the necessary corrections.

Co-coordinators are working on the set of pages right now, to familiarize themselves with "the World" so they can help more effectively by the time the main event starts. But there's still lots of preparation left to be done, and we are looking for editors experienced in advanced wikitools who would like to become co-coordinators.

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Autograph book support
I'll leave my support to the imagination. Do I support autograph books? Signatures? Lists? The number 131? But in all seriousness, I do, indeed, think you're a good editor. Useight (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks for that! I agree on the same for you!  I'm also wondering ... is there any particular trick to knowing when you reach a milestone edit?  I notice you were able to make it whenever you update your counter.  Or did you just watch your edit count closely?  - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I don't have a trick for updating my milestone edits. Usually I check my wannabe_kate stats at the end of most days (I'm left-brained and love numbers. I could read an almanac all day). I know that I usually make between 50 and 100 edits per day, depending on whether I got bored and used Huggle for a bit, so when I'm close, I indeed watch it closely. My next milestone edit will be 17,000, so when I get to about 16,975 (which will probably be tomorrow or the next day) I will refresh my wannabe_kate stats after every few edits. That way I know when wannabe_kate shows 16,999 I will change my userbox. Of course, some edits go away, due to deleted contribs, but I know that when I changed the userbox, my stats did show that number exactly. Is this editcountitis? Maybe. Is it precision and accuracy? Yes. Useight (talk) 18:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

That's pretty smart! That tool works pretty slow on my computer; SQL's tool is faster for me. Either way, do like to keep track of my edits and update my counter, which is now on a separate page so I'm not accused of editcountitis by those who have watchlisted my page. :) I think there's also some kind of advanced program used for tracking your edits, but I never really researched that.   - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 18:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Indeed wannabe_kate is quite slow the first time you open it. However, if it's already open and you just hit F5, it can refresh itself much quicker than it originally took to open. But it's still not fast. Useight (talk) 18:49, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Have you tried SQL's tool? - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 18:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, but its number differ from wannabe_kate's, and I want to keep it standardized. If you take a look at User:Useight/Helps, I believe there's a link to the SQL counter under "Useful Links", but I'm not sure. That page is actually a pretty good resource, if you want to steal parts of it, or all of it, for that matter. Useight (talk) 19:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Nice page! I'll have to check out why the counters' numbers are different.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I like it!
Are you looking to add a specific type of model such as an airplane, monster truck or...? I really like the idea! Please let me know how I can help. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 23:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * All I see so far is the construction template, but if you'd like, I can PM or e-mail for some suggestions. I assume this'll be striclty for surface vehicles? --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

I am still your adoptee, sorry for my ignorance of the fact
Hey, I am sorry, I thought you retired, and I am happy that you still adopt me NOW, as I just saw your semi-retired page yesterday. How can I drop a great administrator and most diligent parent, who spent lots of time in the Max vs. Floro page, to solve the storm. Please help me on and on. I can't live here without the warmth of your parental care. Cheers. I am still your adoptee. --Florentino floro (talk) 07:24, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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WP:ACC
I noticed you (or another user claiming to be you) have recently requested an account for the ACC tool on the toolserver. Please can you verify that you did make this request, by replying here, or on my talk page. Thanks. :-)  Stwalkerster [  talk  ]  20:46, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that was me. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:46, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! Your request for an account on the tool has been approved. Please ensure you read the site notices when you log in (in the green box below the blue headers). Also, it would be a good idea to read Request an account/Guide as well. Remember that you are responsible for all of your actions on this tool and when creating accounts on Wikipedia - use of an automated tool is not an excuse. If you have any questions, feel free to ask myself, or one of the other tool administrators (list). :-)  Stwalkerster [  talk  ]  20:50, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Brief review
Looking through your article work, I found some great stuff there, such as your work to Henderson Village. I took a sizeable random sample of your reverts and didn't find any mistakes. Looking through User Talk, I didn't find any problems there either. Going through your work in the Wikipedia space, it's mostly great, but there were some comments at AFDs that didn't add much to the discussion, such as "Per User:XYZ" and a few RFA !votes, such as "Why not?" that don't add much to the discussion either. Overall, though, excellent work, keep it up. Useight (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I can go deeper if you'd like or can check on some specific things if you had something in mind. Useight (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the offer, but you don't have to right now. I'll probably request a formal editor review one of these days, but thanks again for what you've said so far.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:42, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Arkansas Newsletter
-- Chetblong Talk / ARK 02:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot question?
I was looking around at bots, and I saw you have a bot, Diligent Terrier Bot. How exactly is a bot run? It has sparked my interest.-- LAA Fan  16:01, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Bots are used to make non-repetitive continuous tasks that would take a human a long time to do. Bots are each run differently.  My bot uses AutoWikiBrowser, but others are written in programming languages like Python.  A well known anti-vandal bot is User:ClueBot.  My bot is used to deliver notices on talk pages.  If you want to make a bot of your own, every bot needs approval from the bot approval group.  You can see an example at Bots/Requests for approval/Diligent Terrier Bot, where my bot was approved.  There is also a Bot policy page.  Let me know if you have any additional questions. :)  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 16:55, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

BionicTest
Hi DT,

Please pop over to http://test.transportcentre.co.uk - you are the new Staffer. This offer will expire in 2 hours.

 B G  7even   17:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi DT,
 * To regain Staffer at the new wiki, go to http://bionictest.no-ip.org/testwiki.  B G  7even   17:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: The ACC tool
Hi, thanks for volunteering to help out at WP:ACC. Just a quick note: please be careful when closing requests as 'Too Similar'. Admins have the 'override antispoof' right which allows them to create similar accounts, therefore if the account that the request is similar to has no or very few edits and/or these edits were a while ago, it is safe to assume that there will be no confusion and you should click 'defer to admins' rather than 'similar'. This will add the request to the admin-needed queue and an admin will create the account in due course. Thanks. RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 18:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, thanks. I noticed the similar account had no contributions, so I think I reversed that action, sending it to admins.  Thank you.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 18:28, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem! RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ
 * Thanks for the barnstar! It shall proudly reside on my awards page! RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 19:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Please watch when denying requests at ACC. If you continue to deny similar requests that can be handled by an Admin, you may become blocked from the tool. If you have any questions, please ping me on my talkpage.... D u s t i SPEAK!! 23:42, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, maybe you could take another look at the request, but I believe the request you're referencing was almost identical to an existing username, which is why I closed it. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 23:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I did look a second time and your correct, but please read the information above.....the account can still be created.  D u s t i SPEAK!! 00:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Of course the account could be created, but not in accordance with our username policy. So, I was correct in declining the request, then?  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 00:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the account can still be created, actually....hold on I think it was created. In accordinance with the usrname policy, an account whose name is similar to another name cannot be created  UNLESS  the account to whom it is similar to is an inactive account. Always, always, always go and see if the similar account has any contributions. If the account hasn't had contributions within the past year/ year and a half, then defer to admins.  D u s t i SPEAK!! 14:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The account was created.....if your unsure about the tool, I ask that you ask for help before continuing to use it. I noticed that after I deferred the name to admins, you deferred it to users and then to admins. There really wasnt a need for it. Please, ask for help if you are confused. Thanks,  D u s t i SPEAK!! 15:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Regarding me deferring the account as you are talking about, since I had already accidentally closed it, I had to defer it to the users and then defer it to the admins, which it why it appears that way in the logs. I apologize for any confusion I may have caused. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 16:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Please enlighten me
An embarrassing Huggle revert? Come on, details, details. P.S. - I saw an "Oppose per Useight" in your autograph book. That made me laugh. Useight (talk) 17:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * That's okay, it wasn't that important. Useight (talk) 22:43, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Bots
I have another question about bots. I've decided that, if I get a bot running, it would use AWB. My question is, do I need to get separate approval if I want to have AWB for the bot and my user account? I'm almost positive you do, but I want to make sure. I'm going to request it for my user account today. -- LAA Fan  20:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Boogie Rock AfD
Hello, I'd be grateful if you could look at this again in light of the references added. Thanks BoogieRock (talk) 20:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate that. BoogieRock (talk) 20:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Thanks
You're welcome ^_^ weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  21:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * PS: Please reply here :) I'll restore my talk page (and your comment) tomorrow.  weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  21:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I'd blank my page, too, but it's a bit late to do it now. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:40, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, really. I did say in my editsum that I'd like messages anyway, so thanks!  :)  weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  22:28, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

What edit summary? - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 22:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the late response ^^; The editsummary I used while blanking the page.  Doesn't matter now, because I restored your comment.  Happy editing!   weburiedoursecretsinthegarden  07:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

epic fail
you have failed again to block the master of sockpuppetry and the master of vandalism.

Have a nice day.--68.79.102.248 (talk) 00:29, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops!
I forgot- it's activated now! ---G.T.N. —Preceding comment was added at 02:21, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Adopt me please!
Hi there,

I am brand new to editing on Wikipedia. It peaked my interest as my company uses a version of wiki and the editing really started to become fun to me. I have always been interested in editing and spelling errors always drive me insane.

I'm hoping you can show me the ropes and help me find articles to edit - I have been trying on my own but I just keep getting lost and aggravated.

I look forward to you adopting me soon! (I am also in the East, I live in NY and I plan on being online tonight).

Thanks,

--Treditor200 (talk) 21:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I can adopt you! - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

How does it work? What do I need to do now since I'm adopted? --Treditor200 (talk) 23:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You are now adopted. Please see User:Diligent Terrier/Adoption Center for details.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 23:32, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU, Status, and you!
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Co-nom
Yes, Diligent Terrier, I would be honored if you co-nominated me for adminship. Balloonman has started an RfA page at Requests for adminship/Happyme22, and I will accept once all the co-noms are in. Thank you so much for the interest! Best, Happyme22 (talk) 22:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My current edit count is 11,897. My work in adminly areas is mostly with AfD, but I have also worked a bit in FAC and, more recently, TfD. Please also check out my contribs. Happyme22 (talk) 01:16, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: WP:ACC
Apologies. I was looking at the relay on IRC, and saw the two requests which had been there for a few minutes. You'd created both usernames by the time I found them, so I assumed that since the requests weren't hot off the press, you'd neglected to close them. There's a fine line between housekeeping and jumping the gun! Hope I didn't cause any ire on your part. Catch you around. (Nice userpage, by the way!) haz</b> (talk) 18:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Apology accepted. :-) - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 18:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipolitics
Can you use the "email this user" function? I share this email with a few other people who don't want me giving out the adress. ---G.T.N. —Preceding comment was added at 19:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No, sorry, not to invite you I can't. I would suggest registering for a Gmail address of your own, which can be done in about a minute.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:35, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Well, it is nice to see you're not leaving permanently. It is very tough to stay away, isn't it? :)   jj137   ( talk )  19:58, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, it is. Have you ever retired and then unretired?  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You too, eh? I wasn't here, so... why did you decide to retire (glad your back though)? Basketball110  My story/Tell me yours 14:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Voting in an RfA then adding a question?
Mind explaining that? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Because if the candidate answers differently than I believe he will if he answers the question, I may change my vote. The question is optional, as you may have noticed.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:02, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Then why the rush to vote so quickly, specifically if you admit that his answer to the question may change how you vote? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Because I believe he's a good candidate. It is not unusual for a user to change their vote after a candidate answers a question they disagree with.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * But it's rarely done by the person asking the question. Just a note for the future. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:08, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

I realize it is a bit unusual. I think I'll withdraw my vote pending answer to my question. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No... that's not neccesary. I wanted to point it out to you, how it can come across. Withdrawing your support (if you really want to support) will probably be overkill. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 20:11, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry to poke in here, but I would just leave the vote up otherwise it'll just draw attention to the peculiarity of the whole situation. But in the future, yea, question first, !vote later. P.S. archive?! –<font face="Verdana"> xeno cidic ( talk ) 20:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * (edit conflict)Yeah, I can see how it can come across to the candidate, but I think it's a question that deserves to be answered. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Please redo your comment in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee
Please redo this comment. It's hard to tell if you are commenting in "View by Durova" or in the transcluded section "Statements about what works well in the current Arbitration Committee process." If it's in the first, just shift your comments above. If it's in the latter remove what's there then click on one of the edit buttons in the section you want to edit. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  20:42, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ Thank you.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion solicited on Template talk:Ron Paul
Yo, I wonder as an editor who is hostile to the Ron Paul template you could comment here on whether we should call Paul's campaigns/legislation "failed". Sincerely, Skomorokh  21:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I invite you
May I please invite you to join this discussion, if you may., Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 07:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Question
What is it meant by 'adopting'? --EZ1234 (talk) 14:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:ADOPT. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:03, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

If it is not a bother...
...can I please get your honest input here: ? Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 01:02, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. I posted this before I saw your last e-mail. Sorry for the repetition. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

My RFA Thanks
Thank you for your support at my RFA, which has closed as a success. I'm flattered that you think I know enough to be an admin, but as I am one now, I feel like a driver who has just passed his test and being allowed to drive on his own... the realisation of the damage I could do is just so daunting! Anyway, I promice to take things easy to begin with and listen to the advice of my peers. Once again, thanks for your support. StephenBuxton (talk) 21:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

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Homeschooling
Just to provide an example: I wish to add my name to the members list, i click "edit this page" at the members section. I am told that i now have to go back, and edit another section. It is not only confusing to new members, but is a general annoyance. As a side note, having so many sub-pages is really confusing, and leaves us more exposed to vandalism - it is easier to watch one page than ten or twenty. Five Years 06:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * When I go to add my name to the list, it goes right to editing the members page. I see your point though regarding watching all of the pages.  But the members age has some old important history in it, so I'm hesitant to agree on its deletion.  I think I'll let you go ahead and delete the separate collaboration page, and I'll merge it into the main page.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, aside from the members one. What about the userboxes and invitation ones, they dont seem to have any important history. Also, shouldnt those userboxes be in wikipedia space, not in peoples userspace, considering that they are used by the project. Thanks. Five Years 16:55, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * How about merging the invitations and userbox listings pages into the main project page, then redirecting the pages to that section in the project page? - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. Five Years 06:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Sockpuppetry case
Why do you suspect that I am Llamadog903 simply because I supported his RFA? Eatpeaches (talk) 21:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No, please see the evidence listed at the sockpuppetry evidence page. Thank you.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * DT, that's extremely tenuous evidence. I'd suggest withdrawing the case. eatpeaches is trolling, I've no doubt of that, but I don't think he's Llamadog, whose account was created in 2006 (not sure why you wrote they were created within 2 days of eachother). –<font face="Verdana"> xeno cidic ( talk ) 21:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've closed the case and deleted the category you created. While it's clear you were acting in good faith, consider bouncing your concerns off someone else to make sure you're not seeing something that isn't quite there =). –<font face="Verdana"> xeno cidic ( talk ) 22:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Your Adoptee
User:Florentino floro has really crossed the line here, see my comments on the talk page for more details. I think a personal word from you would go a long way toward making him understand that what he did was inappropriate. I know I am often on his case, but I think this particular edit of his crosses a more serious threshold. Unfortunately, my telling him so is not going to make him listen. You, on the other hand, may have some sway. maxsch (talk) 22:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can leave him a little message, but that still probably won't go real far. If you want to see a real change in him, I would suggest a user conduct RFC.  As another option, I can write up a conclusion on the mediation page where he can agree to talk edits over with me before making them...  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 23:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Use of a Talk page to find ways to block Floro
I want to respectfully reiterate and submit hereinder by quoting parts of damning evidence of admissions that:User talk:Howard the Duck ''I'm tired already of his shortcomings. At least with that comment he'll think twice on expounding a lenghtly dissertation about dwarfs.'' --Howard the Duck 07:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC) Even sysops don't know how to deal with him, IMHO. The only way they'll do action is if he does really blatant violation (COPYVIO/3RR/etc). --Howard the Duck 07:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC) Take a look at the user talk page of the one if the intervening admins (I forgot who), it seems he doesn't know what to do. --Howard the Duck 07:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC) If ever you catch him doing something that warrants a block, please tell me. ;D TheCoffee (talk) 08:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)I caught him editing Wikipedia --Migs (talk) 08:27, 27 June 2008 (UTC)Well if anyone does something that warrants a block, I'm going to enforce the rules and block them. That's the way it should be done, there's nothing wrong with that and I stand by my post. TheCoffee (talk) 07:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Well, you can stand by it. Its just that a lot of eyes are waiting for Floro to commit mistake then block. =) --Efe (talk) 07:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)--Florentino floro (talk) 08:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

8 hours daily edits, reverted by Max, in just 20 minutes, fair?
I spend 8 hours daily, regularly and continously, to add good positive edits, while Max, spends 20 minutes daily to revert my hard earned positive contributions. Is Wikipedia fair? Are yeoman editors entitled to be respected? Daily, I work Wiki for long continuous 8 hours, I repeat, as evidenced by my contributions and their times inputs.. Sad to say, Max's sole agenda in Wiki, is to make a fishing expedition, to find ways to block me, by looking for the so called blatant violations. But Max can't because of my diligence, honesty and good faith. I could have made more than 20,000 edits by patrolling, correcting spelling, Max reverting, grammar, formatting, but, I opted to contribute good and closed edits, such that any editor would take it hard to add more, but could easily trim my rather medium edits. Take these fewest examples, where, in each edit, I spent 1 1/2 hours researching all googles: Dayana Mendoza, and New Cross double murder. Take Max's daily contributions: 98% of them are stalking my edits, patrolling them, and Max desires to block me for no reason. Let us be candid of Max's sole agenda. But I disregard these, sinced I believe in the ethics and respect by most editors here to myself. If Max has a Wiki action against me, then Max should read Wiki rules and apply the policies as well. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Davide Article No COI, with RFC
When Max found a seemingly wrong edit, but not, Max reverted my edit. So, I read Wiki rules and policy, and forthwith faced Max squarely on the RULES. Here:Wikipedia:Requests for comment. Like in all my edits (now 5,002+), no Wikipedia editor had ever more than .01% ever reverted my edits, since Max came, except Max, as Wiki stalker, since I learned so much, being now a Most Excellent Grognard, entitled to display the badge of Yeoman Editor. Now, I found this humour template apt here:

Fortunately, User:Efe, instead of filing comment at the talk page, became neutral, and thus, edited and cleaned up the article I fully explained my stance, that there is no COI, reading all the lines of COI. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Stop calling yourself Most Excellent Grognard or Yeoman Editor. It's meaningless and it makes you sound stupid. TheCoffee (talk) 08:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not calling myself this or that, with all due respect. I informed my parent that I read Wiki templates and badges, and I fully explained that all of us editors are equal ethically, inter alia, but Wiki recognizes awards, barnstars, and here badges of service to editors. So, I invoked my right as editor to display this award and badge, for all Wiki intents and purposes, it might be so, for the better information of my adopting parent.--Florentino floro (talk) 08:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * More to the point, stop bragging about the number of edits you have or your length of stay on Wikipedia. I have said this a number of times, but it is completely irrelevant and says nothing about your capacity as an editor. If you have to post an umpteen paragraphs defending yourself and insisting that your edits number more than many editors' then maybe you should reconsider your position and ask yourself if you're in the right. Speaking of paragraphs, I believe you've been warned multiple times, by multiple people, that you need to be far more succinct. I'm getting very sick of your propensity for adding needlessly long and meaningless sentences when one will do just fine. --Migs (talk) 08:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not bragging of my 5,020++ edits, for it is settled that it is not the number of edits that count, but quality. However, editors are entitled as a matter of right to cite and display badges of service, and note that there are many who had 100,000 edits and mine is just a minute one. TLDRis a general rule open to exceptions, like here, where I and Max and you need to submit argument. --Florentino floro (talk) 12:08, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Notification
You might be interested in this. - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 21:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Eh, that is not interesting. This is interesting: . Thanks for thinking of me! Ecoleetage (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. Sorry that I forgot to say it earlier, but thank you very much! I appreciated your good-spirited and intelligent defence. Ecoleetage (talk) 16:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * P.P.S. Everything ended quite nicely: . All is well with the Wiki world...for now. :) Ecoleetage (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Good Sam Club addition and Edite
Hello,

Sorry for the email. Here is the message pasted below:

I wanted to know why my edit/addition to the RV entry as considered vandalism. I simply added the Good Sam Club organization and I attempted to add a link to the Good Sam Club site.

I just wanted to be clear on what I did wrong.

Thanks,

Wicksell —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmetellus (talk • contribs) 13:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see our spam policies at WP:SPAM. External links should only be in the External Links or References/Footnotes section.  Thanks,  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 14:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

thx
Thanks for edit, but it was a answer at the question he made on my bs.wiki site. He´s an German and I´m from Austria also i don´t think there is a problem if i write in german. bs:Korisnik:Seha--194.24.158.8 (talk) 22:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank you
A special thank you, Diligent Terrier, for your willingness to co-nominate me, as well as your very well thought out and sincere nominating statement. I am very appreciative. Best, Happyme22 (talk) 03:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Requests_for_adminship/RMHED_2
Hi you voted twice. I indented your older vote. Cheers. Gary <b style="color:#02b;">King</b> ( talk ) 20:03, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I apparently forgot to remove my old neutral vote. :( - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Water Oak
Ok, so maybe i'm not a moderator or editor, but i'm pretty sure the one line of text that I added on how to identify Water Oak trees was very informative. Just because I didnt' fill out an edit summary doesn't mean that it wasn't worthwile. In fact, I'm wondering how and why it is necessary to write a summary for a one line edit. Really, if I did put a summary on it, it would have been verbatim what i included. Also, I'm not even sure if I'm putting this in the right place, your page is so jumbled that I'm pretty lost in it at this point. Please, don't revert my edit agian, as it both adds to the article and helps to better convey the somewhat botanical jargon that it supplements. Really, it's a waste of my time to go back and reedit things that needed to be edited in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eganjt (talk • contribs) 19:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, I never reverted any of your edits, nor did I warn you so I'm not sure what you're talking about. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sry if i sounded a bit upset-- it seem almost every edit i make i have to make twice with wikipedia. Your "bot" did the editing and/or warning.  I figured out why (I didn't include a justification on the edit summary) and since then i haven't had any problems.  This is just continued frustration with the editing process at wikipedia.Eganjt (talk) 14:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see where I ever edited your talk page, and I don't have a bot that warns users, so you must be confused. « <font face="Tahoma"> Diligent Terrier    (talk)   17:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Floro RFC
Per your advice, I started a RFC for your adoptee user:Florentino floro here. I intend to add some diffs of specific instances of his misbehavior in the next day or so. I thought you might be interested. maxsch (talk) 21:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, for the message. This might solve our debate, differences and, for sure, might help us both to expand Wikipedia with greater improvement, for future readers. Let me add this note (that there is no COI consensuson that accusation of COI on my Davide edit.)Vide: User:Efe's stance and Comment: I will await and am too excited, on Max's final touch on the RFC, and I would be glad to respond to that in due course. Please message me, when I need to. --Florentino floro (talk) 08:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Dear diligent, since it was on your suggestion that I created the RFC, I would appreciate it if you would at least certify the discussion so that it doesn't get deleted. maxsch (talk) 18:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

thank you
Thanks for signing my guestbook! How did you find it? -- Soccer 5525  ( Tk  •  Ctrb ) 22:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Adoption?
Hey my names Will, i also live in Florida as well. I really want to get into the whole Wikipedia thing. Only problem is that im a completly new at this and my skills with java script and other things like that are almost zero to none. You look like you kno ALOT, and look like the perfect mentor. if your up for adopting me then hit me up, and it would be awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Will561 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'd be happy to adopt you. :) - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 16:33, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Okay. Thanks for the heads up. Cheers.-- LAA Fan  16:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Royals Schooling
I understand that you want to keep the Queen, but what she attended was really a very small school for herself and her sister. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zeamays (talk • contribs)


 * If there were only two people in it then it's certainly not a school. There are also such things as "homeschooling schools", but even this does seem to even qualify as such.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 17:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Darwin-Wallace Medal
I got a message saying this was for deletion. I was on Huggle reverting (what I thought to be) vandalism! (It turned out not to be, I had no idea that a man named "George Gaylord Simpson" actually existed (the emphasis added to show why I reverted the edit). Go figure, I voted delete. :-) Kodster ( heLLo ) ( Me did that ) 21:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Greetings
Hello! This is the first that I encountered this: Requests for comment/Florentino floro. I am not pretty sure, when and how, I will respond. So, if the pending User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling (created on 18:38, 18 May 2008 by Diligent Terrier), works like this, as far as the procedure of replying and argument/discussions, then, I cordially invited some Filipino and foreign editors or users, here, to share their views on the matter, as maxsch, also did invite. Hence, I sent messages of invitations to users/admins who had posted in my own talk pages/archives, and who might be familiar with the debate: Filipinos - User talk:Rizalninoynapoleon, User talk:Kguirnela, User talk:Ianlopez1115, User talk:Titopao; and non-Filipinos User talk:NanohaA'sYuri, User talk:Vivio Testarossa,  User talk:Andreasegde, User talk:Viriditas, User talk:BanyanTree, User talk:Royalbroil, User talk:John Carter, User talk:Algabal, User talk:FisherQueen, User talk:Rkitko, User talk:BanyanTree, User talk:Royalbroil, User:Diligent Terrier, my parent.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Question
Should I respond in Requests for comment/Florentino floro after a while, and after some or most of these invited users had filed comment? Or, should I reply now or next day? Please enlighten me. Thanks.--Florentino floro (talk) 06:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I would wait after a few views on the subject, and make sure the questions are for you before answering them. :) - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Interesting Subjects
Thanks for taking me under your wing dude. So to get started wat are some interesting topics that we should start off with?--Will Willcox 16:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)Will561


 * Replied on Will's talk page. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Request
Can you please take care of the newsletter request here? Thanks! « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  18:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure. Should it be subst'ed?  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ya, sure. Thanks so much DT! « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  01:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Did it yesterday. Thanks! - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 17:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's working fine. I was just a little busy. Thanks for taking care of it! « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite  Cøøkie  20:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Pax
I don't believe in my giving you or my former parent User:Ianlopez1115, a barnstar, since, I myself, only received one barnstar from User:Lenticel, Filipino admin. But, I desire to bestow upon your human existence, my greatest gift, which I rarely confer. "Lux in Domino", that is: Peace, which is priceless. My parents died in 1979 and 1996 at the ages of 79 and 70. As orphan, who never found kindness in my own nation, under your parental care to a jobless Filipino puppy, and due "diligence of a good father of a family" (legal phrase in Philippine Civil Code), rest assured that this posted animation may temper the stress of your non-tiring efforts towards making Wikipedia a better and harmonious place for co-existence among editors and admins (including my former parent, Ian who is an amin and coach hopeful). Ian (a wealthy Laguna high school most promising geek), told me that he was inspired by my story and 9 years Philippine sufferings, as" jobless judge in pretend world." But now, I found this sole job, sitting 9 hours in Wiki bench not a jurist, but as a philo-searcher of kindness and deepest compassion.
 * My Wiki agenda, mission, vision and philosophy is wisdom - not to revert, delete, format, clean up, correct grammar, and the likes: but to painfully add positive, long lasting encyclopedic articles. Wikipedia articles must be contributed and edited my [[metamorphosis] -: such that an article is baked and cooked by at the very least, 50 different contributors. What I hate most, is to to find an article being hatched by only a handful of Wiki editors.
 * In my contributions and creations to Wikipedia, I watched these articles, and found, that 70% of them --- each articles, like Ces Drilon and New Cross double murder, as examples, by metes and bounds - I carved about 70% of the entire articles, but I consider my Wiki fiat, as only 1% or minute contribution vis-a-vis the flooding contributions however small, the roles, of so many Wiki editors. This is the essence and philosophy of : "Wikipedia is written collaboratively by volunteers from all around the world. Since its creation in 2001, Wikipedia has grown rapidly into one of the largest reference Web sites, attracting at least 684 million visitors yearly by 2008. There are more than 75,000 active contributors working on more than 10,000,000 articles in more than 250 languages. As of today, there are 2,463,940 articles in English; every day hundreds of thousands of visitors from around the world make tens of thousands of edits and create thousands of new articles to enhance the knowledge held by the Wikipedia encyclopedia." About Triple Cheers. --Florentino floro (talk) 08:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for clarification
Requests for comment/Florentino floro was deleted on "00:32, 20 July 2008 by Wizardman (Talk | contribs)-("Requests for comment/Florentino floro" ‎ (two people have not certified basis for dispute within 48 hours).
 * I respectfully quote the rules: "In order to remain listed at Requests for comment/User conduct, at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. This must involve the same dispute with a single user, not different disputes or multiple users. The persons complaining must provide evidence of their efforts, and each of them must certify it by signing this page with &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; . If this does not happen within 48 hours of the creation of this dispute page (which was: 21:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)), the page will be deleted. The current date and time is:, 29 July 2024 (UTC)."
 * The page, after having been deleted by the administrator was restored, with only ONE certification and endorsement:"Users certifying the basis for this disputeUsers who tried and failed to resolve the dispute.:#TheCoffee (talk) 08:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My question, please: Are not, 2 endorsers required, lest fatal deletion results? Since, after 48 hours, now, more than, per math computation, if I am not mistaken, no 2nd required certification was posted. So, must the Requests for comment/Florentino floro remain or be deleted. Respectfully submitted, awaiting your kind comment. Thanks.--Florentino floro (talk) 10:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Notice of Max apology and hiding of IP address
I had been building my case, with the evidence at hand. To better appreciate my master thesis of conspiracy that my resigned parent User:Ianlopez1115 emailed to me, to muscle me vis-a-vis Psalm 109, suffice it to say, that, User:Ianlopez1115 did resign because of this conspiracy. The dispute dragged because, even, if I, Ian and Diligent Terrier tried our best to peacefully and amicably end this, still, the mystic of paranormal battle shrowds this case. May I quote Ian's posted message:
 * "I received some notice that I had quite neglected my duties as your adopter. Due to those "allegations" or what not, ... It is also my duty to monitor and defend your edits, if necessary. Sir, it is your wish for me to be replaced by a Wikipedian of non-Filipino origin. However, I'm giving you advise and help you out, even if I no longer adopt you. Good evening po and may God send us good leaders to guide this country and this wiki. -iaNLOPEZ1115 · TaLKBaCK · Vandalize it 12:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)"
 * My dear parent, with all due respect: the dragging dispute between me, Max and User:Cma is really a first in Wikipedia. It is rather spiritual than technical. I want to call your kind attention to this:
 * Max admitted:
 * "I promise to be terse. It is not irrelevant to bring up evidence of a conflict of interest. You have a personal stake in "coconut healing oil" and thus what you choose to write about it should be critically viewed, especially if there are questions about the sources you use as evidence. 59.183.139.189 (talk) 06:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't logged in when I wrote this, but it was me. maxsch (talk) 12:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)"
 * This is direly important in this discussion, since Max admitted per research that Max replied from India, Bombai.
 * Lookup IP Address: 59.183.139.189Hostname:triband-mum-59.183.139.189.mtnl.net.in ISP:Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.Organization:Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.Proxy:None detectedType:Cable/DSL, Country:India State/Region:16-City:Bombay, Latitude:18.975, Longitude:72.8258. Sincerely--Florentino floro (talk) 07:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I clearly wasn't trying to hide anything. And I think the accusation Floro makes is in bad taste. maxsch (talk) 14:12, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

BionicTest

 * Log in. There are several changes.  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  14:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Help on First Article
The article that i am intersted on improving would be Call of Duty: World at War. I was reading it and their are some things that could be added about it. How should i go about doing this? I have a reference which would be from the official XBOX magazine, with interviews from the people at Treyarch who are making the game. WHAT SHOULD I DO?Will Willcox 15:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)Will561


 * Replied on Will561's talk page. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 19:17, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter
Would you be willing to make a newsletter or some sort of notice for the FACC (name gets long). I want to send out something to the participants (Me, you, RC, and Shapiros10) that states that A. The project will be officially be opened August 1st (to get more time for more participants) and B. That England will be the article, not Babe Ruth, as I agree on what Shapiros said about how we would be doing a service. I would normally just give out my standard notice, but I want users just stopping by on the page to see the notice and hopefully join themselves.-- LAA Fan  17:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied on LAAFan's talk page. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Around the World
When will Around the World start? - Diligent Terrier  (and friends) 20:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know. One of the images for the 3 awards are ready, and the other 2 are getting close.  But there's still a lot of prepping needed on the set of pages themselves, so that we can move them all to the main namespace before the event starts.  You could join in on the fun of prepping for the event. Let me know if you are interested, and I'll send some tasks your way.  The Transhumanist  23:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'm interested. Let me know where I can help.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 00:35, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What is Around the World? Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  00:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

If you need any notices delivered, my bot could do it. (Shapiros10: The Transhumanist could   explain that better than I could)  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 00:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * DT, I'd prefer to do it myself. Assuming the TH is watching this, "What is Around the World?"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shapiros10 (talk • contribs)


 * I was actually talking to The Transhumanist re: the delivery of notices. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 00:53, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Plaridel
Dear Parent, I now have hard evidence that Maxs and User:Cma have no agenda here, except the hidden vindictive yet spiritual request to prevent me from editing secret unspecified articles in Wikipedia that Max and Cma desire. If this is what they want, both can specify these. Enumerate these, and if Wiki rules permit, I will not edit or add to these articles. Why confuse Wiki foreign and Filipino administrators and editors including you, on our conflict? As the long and tedious discussion rages, one could not really discover what both want. So, tersely, I made this. Please, parent, read this long discussion on Plaridel dire Aviation accidents and incidents on 3 Indian nationals. Any lawyer will tell you, that my evidence is not religious but circumstantial, pointing to the fact that Max went to India to consult Vedic and venerable tellers to decipher my very own dire actuations on many events worldwide which concerned many. Mystic India is not that simple, nor Max.
 * I am not sure if you can comprehend and read between the lines. Before these 3 deaths happened, the 3 Indians used regularly my own rented PC Internet in Plaridel. I had forewarned many Indians about the Cessna planes crashing - worst not the crash but mystic collisions before my every head and eyes circa the time Max had been on this Wiki thing. I resist and stay away from all of these controversial Wiki posting of religious discussions lest I be misinterpreted by skeptics and atheists, that I deeply respect, since I am a closed scientist and debunked psychic phenomena, even if I am a closed Catholic. Yes, I move things. Yes, I am gifted. But I keep this to myself. But Max is confusing editors here. Max should go DIRECT TO THE POINT. Regards.--Florentino floro (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Dear Diligent. Can you please tell floro that this is in very poor taste. maxsch (talk) 14:01, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Done. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:24, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Homeschooling
I withdrew from Homeschooling because I don't know anything about the subject and I am unable to offer the level of intelligent input you deserve to make that stand out. Ecoleetage (talk) 20:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, that's fine with me. Just wanted to make sure there were no hurt feelings ;)  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:38, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Everything is copacetic.

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Out of Control
A propos of Floro's newest obsession, my alleged connection to India and airplane crashes, please look at this edit. Honestly, as the host of a long and hopefully not pointless discussion about him and me, you must have some insight now. It would be a big help if you would comment at the user RFC that YOU RECOMMENDED THAT I START. If there is something you are waiting for, perhaps you could let me know. maxsch (talk) 21:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

User:Flaminsky vis-a-vis User:Cma and IP address of Max
Thanks for your best efforts to help us resolve our conflicts in utter good faith. For the truth to be unveiled, I took pains to read the Wiki policies and rules, but I need your advise as parent on this. I hope this is not TLDR, in view of the first impression nature of our conflict. Regards.

Request for enlightenment on the interpretation of Wiki rules
Question: Is a case of Suck puppetry the proper mode of action here? Please do answer this query.
 * Sock puppetry The general rule is: one editor, one account. Do not use multiple accounts to create the illusion of greater support for an issue, to mislead others, to artificially stir up controversy, to aid in disruption, or to circumvent a block.User:Flaminsky = User:Cma
 * Circumventing policy - Sock puppets may not be used to circumvent any Arbitration Committee or community sanctions, including blocks, bans, and probations. Evading sanctions will cause the timer to restart, and may lengthen the duration of the sanctions.
 * Meatpuppet is a Wikipedia term of art meaning one who edits on behalf of or as proxy for another editor.User:Flaminsky
 * Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets If you think that someone is using sockpuppets and wish to get further people's comments on the matter, you should create a report at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets and follow the instructions there.

Who is User:Cma?/Dom/Dominique Gerald Cimafranca
User:Flaminsky, deleted due to vandalism, created User:Cma. Who is Flaminsky and Cma? This is answered by Cma's edit of link: - which clearly and unequivocally showed that Cma is: Filipino Wikipedian and blogger:Dominique Gerald Cimafranca or "Dom" Village Idiot Savant | Web site: http://www.sketches.kom.ph, Dumaguete City, Philippines Before joining IBM, Dominique worked with Digital Equipment Corporation as a firewall and Internet consultant. He has been involved in customer engagements in over 18 countriesThe Camel and the Snake, or "Cheat the Prophet", Open source development with Perl, Python, and DB2; Jetspeed,
 * Evidence:
 * Dominique Gerald M. Cimafranca is an IT Specialist for IBM Asia-Pacific's Emerging and Competitive Markets team. In this role, he works on Linux, Digital Media, and Life Sciences opportunities. Prior to this, he also worked for IBM's NetGen and e-Business teams. He is responsible for the first RS/6000® SP-based ISP installation in Asia. He has been working with IBM since 1997 and is co-author of a firewall RedBook.
 * Web site: villageidiotsavant.blogspot.com ; http://www.sketches.kom.ph
 * Google, http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=tl&q=Dominique+Gerald+Cimafranca+&btnG=Maghanap&meta=
 * DOMINIQUE CIMAFRANCA, 37, IT WORKER, DAVAO, MINDANAOnews.bbc.co.ukDominique Cimafranca: Nothing has changed in Philippines politics
 * Dominique Gerald CimafrancaDumaguete, Philippines
 * Cma blog;, , Cmas's 5 blogs,Friendster

Why did Cma/Dominique Gerald Cimafranca delete by edit the link?
Answer: Cma made a mistake of exposing his identity in Wikipedia, amid Cma's only agenda in Wikipedia: Surveillance and police investigative journalism as blogger contra all those who might be :inflicting their wrath through letters, blogs, Photoshop contests, and other zany means of reaction" commited by a specific User:Florentino floro. Cma committed a mistake that Floro is anti Gma. Floro never voted since 1965 and is apolitical, a pure scientist, and hater of psychic phenomena, closed Catholic though, but respect skeptics and atheists so much. The predictions and prophecies of Floro were all over internet, since Floro as lawyer is aware that Floro cannot Libel, defame or attack anybody lest he be indicted. Thus, Floro's wit, cleverly used religion and free speech by using Cryptology: angels, imprecation, etc. all protected by Wikipedia and USA Philippines laws and policies. [ -philippine-defense-squad.txt v 0.1- This text file seeks to become a comprehensive listing of all instances of times when Filipinos overreact to criticism (both deserved and undeserved) by descending upon the subject like a swarm of angry bees and inflicting their wrath through letters, blogs, Photoshop contests, and other zany means of reaction. Anyone who figures out how to contact me is welcome to contribute. * the spoon incident in Canada, which really turned out to be the fault of the boy; * former Chief Justice Isagani Cruz's comments against gays; *Inquirer inaccurately reports that Malacanang tells people to forget EDSA II. Bloggers furious. Other contributors (contact me if I've forgotten to add you): 1. Dominique Cimafranca for various entries - [[User:Cma]]; 4. Michael Gonzalez : Malacanang: Forget EDSA II - User:TheCoffee, Filipino Wikipedia administrator
 * We can’t trust gov’t with population funds DOMINIQUE GERALD M. CIMAFRANCA (via email)
 * Please edit or shorten this if TLDR due to complicated matters, which I must raise before the Rfc must proceed. Regards, and Thanks. --Florentino floro (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Revision history of User:Cma
Cma deleted the link *Location of CMA's personal website Nintendo optical disc -philippine-defense-squad.txt v 0.1- This text file seeks to become a comprehensive listing of all instances of times when Filipinos overreact to criticism (both deserved and undeserved) by descending upon the subject like a swarm of angry bees and inflicting their wrath through letters, blogs, Photoshop contests, and other zany means of reaction. Anyone who figures out how to contact me is welcome to contribute. * the spoon incident in Canada, which really turned out to be the fault of the boy; * former Chief Justice Isagani Cruz's comments against gays; *Inquirer inaccurately reports that Malacanang tells people to forget EDSA II. Bloggers furious. Other contributors (contact me if I've forgotten to add you): 1. Dominique Cimafranca for various entries - User:Cma; 4. Michael Gonzalez: Malacanang: Forget EDSA II - User:TheCoffee, Filipino Wikipedia administrator This article lacks information on the importance of the subject matter. If you are familiar with it, please expand the article, or discuss its significance on the talk page. add -
 * (cur) (last) 14:55, 21 February 2008 Cma (Talk | contribs) (1,466 bytes) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 05:06, 30 October 2006 Cma (Talk | contribs) m (undo) -Cma created and identified his website that was already created:*Location of CMA's personal website When opened Cma's link showed and identified Cma as: - Gods, gameGoDS is a homebrew go game for the Nintendo DS.
 * (cur) (last) 03:53, 16 June 2006 RoryBot (Talk | contribs) (BOT- bypassing cross-namespace redirect using AWB) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 16:37, 2 October 2005 Cma (Talk | contribs) (Did a subst instead of a category so my ego wouldn't actually be transcluded.) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 09:31, 1 October 2005 Kjkolb (Talk | contribs) (removed "importance" tag, it was showing up in the category) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 04:34, 15 September 2005 Cma (Talk | contribs) (Category: Filipino Wikipedians) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 16:21, 24 August 2005 Cma (Talk | contribs) (undo)
 * (cur) (last) 04:25, 18 August 2005 Cma (Talk | contribs) (undo)
 * Flaminsky was deleted, and Flaminsky edited by a) using Cma user name, created the page with details and added a website to be created soon:Future location of CMA's personal website[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Cma&diff=next&oldid=17673895
 * (cur) (last) 05:33, 17 June 2005 Flaminsky (Talk | contribs)
 * Sorry about the Mel gibson edits, just playing around too much on my part, -FlaminskyUser:Flaminsky -Why was my page deleted?

Vandalism

 * Please do not edit other users' User pages. Please click the "Discussion" tab to put messages on a user talk page.   ral  315  05:34, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Please refrain from adding nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Oregon. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. VegaDark 05:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

User contributions of User:Flaminsky

 * 05:42, 2 August 2006 (hist) (diff) Oregon # 05:33, 17 June 2005 (hist) (diff) User:Cma # 04:23, 16 June 2005 (hist) (diff) m Mel Gibson

IP Address of User:Maxschmelling
With all due respect, may I please write hereunder, a very important - critical fact of this discussion. Max used an IP address and later asked apology for not using Max's username. This is utter bad faith, which might have caused the mediator/s to be misled. At any rate, I write this for the better solution of this dispute in good faith::Max admitted:
 * "I promise to be terse. It is not irrelevant to bring up evidence of a conflict of interest. You have a personal stake in "coconut healing oil" and thus what you choose to write about it should be critically viewed, especially if there are questions about the sources you use as evidence. 59.183.139.189 (talk) 06:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't logged in when I wrote this, but it was me. maxsch (talk) 12:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)"
 * This is direly important in this discussion, since Max admitted per research that Max replied from India, Bombai.

Lookup IP Address: 59.183.139.189Hostname:triband-mum-59.183.139.189.mtnl.net.in ISP:Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.Organization:Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.Proxy:None detectedType:Cable/DSL, Country:India State/Region:16-City:Bombay, Latitude:18.975, Longitude:72.8258--Florentino floro (talk) 06:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that it is direly important. In fact I think it is pretty much irrelevant. I was passing through Mumbai, using an unfamiliar computer and I wasn't logged in. I soon added my username to the unsigned comments so that no one would be misled. I am not from India, but as I have said before, my natioanality is of no importance to this dispute. maxsch (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Shiva, Mumbai, Bombai
Requests for checkuser--Florentino floro (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Out of control, part 2
Hi DiligentTerrier, it's me this time. I really hope that, between that diff max posted and this wall of text that Floro just posted, you have a much clearer grasp on how serious this matter is. I'm not entirely sure what he's trying to say but I think he's accusing me of being a sockpuppet of someone whose vandalism I reverted in 2005, exposing my "real name" (it isn't), and linking maxsch to airplane crashes in India. Please do take the time to comment on the RFC. --Migs (talk) 12:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * He's short circuiting. TheCoffee (talk) 13:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Requesting for adoption
Hello!

I'm a French experimented user s(very active in his local Wikipedia) eeking for an adopter. I'm looking for someone who could explain me all the US specificities of Wikipedia, as for instance the procedure to send copyrighted pictures, using the Fair use act, or about how we fight against vandalism in there.

An adopter has offered me his help, but I think he doesn't suits to me. May you adopt me if you think you'll be able to help me, please? I'll tell that he doesn't meets my personal requirements as soon as the deed is done.

Thanks! Diti (talk to the penguin) 17:13, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You are now adopted, per your request on my talk page. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 21:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I might ask you questions very soon. Diti  (talk to the penguin) 10:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter
-- LAA Fan  23:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Vedic
Can you help expand, cleanup, etc. Jyotiṣa, and can you drop me a mouthful of opinion on this, I was just baptized here, racing to be the very first but I had not yet created an article, still disecting it, just a thrill for I might be able to learn more how to use IT to make my skills better here in Wiki.--Florentino floro (talk) 11:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Still adopting?
Hi DT. I see you've adopted another user. I'm not sure that's so wise. Your lack of interest in one of your other adoptees, User:Florentino floro, is causing plenty of trouble. Will you please write a conclusion to the mediation you so graciously hosted (and so graciously ignored)? And will you please comment on the RFC for Floro? Need I remind you again that it was your idea to create one. And finally, will you please tell him to stop researching and disparaging my and user:cma's "real" identities? He takes your silence as approval for his behavior. maxsch (talk) 21:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe you didn't notice, but I did ask him to stop. I have  never ignored Florentino floro, in fact I've done a lot to help him, but I came into this situation a bit late after the previous adopter resigned from his adoption of Florentino floro (and I can see why).  So please do not say that I have been ignoring everything.  I will comment on the RFC and close the mediation as soon as I have time.  Thanks.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I did notice. I also noticed that you only did so after repeated requests by me and migs. I also noticed that you didn't address any of the other myriad issues, and you didn't tell him that his behavior was inappropriate (which it most definitely was), only that it was "distracting". I'm sorry if I am frustrated with you, but you have not helped the situation with floro at all. He thinks you are watching his edits and approve of all those you don't comment on. As a semi-retired editor with plenty to worry about, I wonder what you have to offer a new adoptee. I don't think you have ignored everything, but I still think some substantive comments from you on both the mediation page and the RFC are long overdue. maxsch (talk) 21:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't be a puppet for whatever you want me to exactly say. Please keep in mind that adoption and mediation are two separate things.  « <font face="Tahoma"> Diligent Terrier    (talk)   22:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


 * So, I see you've been active on and off lately. Do you have time to comment on the RFC and the mediation yet? I'm not asking you to be a puppet; I'm asking you to be involved. If you don't want to be involved it is obviously your choice, but if you are not going to be involved I would ask you to stop calling yourself floro's adopter. maxsch (talk) 22:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Re:Newsletter
No worries. I found out that I turn another newsletter and make my own from it. -- LAA Fan  22:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Falsification of Signature?
Dear parent, as your adoptee, may I please ask for enlightenment on this grave or blatant violation of Wikpedia rules. Max used an IP address with India, Mumbai Server, alleging Max passed thereat. This is the critical fact: Max, in the Edit Summary, typed this:
 * Revision history of User:Diligent Terrier/Florentino floro and Maxschmelling:(cur) (last) 06:57, 14 June 2008 59.183.139.189 (Talk) (64,250 bytes)(→Statement by administratorUser:Rkitko) (undo)
 * Clearly, therefor, Max made it appear that administrator User:Rkitko participated, acted and signed the Wiki signer, when in fact Rkitko did not. Max in fact asked for apology, admitting that Max was the one who posted the falsified message.
 * Is this a blatant violation of Wikipedia Rules (which I will, as I hereby reserve) to present to the proper Adm. Notice Board, inter alia, for comment), after with all due respect to your reply. I will alert admin. Rkito on this, and admin User:Lenticel, for comment.

Fait accompli
I never tried to discover Max or Cma's personal phone, credit cards, etc. It was Cma's blunder to have edited Flaminsky and then added the link which revealed DOM. This is serious. Since, I am questioning deleted User:Flaminsky's right whatsoever to participate in these dragging Rfc, etc. HUMAN RELATIONS (n)Art. 19. Every person must, in the exercise of his rights and in the performance of his duties, act with justice, give everyone his due, and observe honesty and good faith. Art. 20. Every person who, contrary to law, wilfully or negligently causes damage to another, shall indemnify the latter for the same.Art. 21. Any person who wilfully causes loss or injury to another in a manner that is contrary to morals, good customs or public policy shall compensate the latter for the damage.]
 * Wikipedia repeatedly warns on the disadvantages of signing with IP address. Wikipedia know the scores of lawsuits that Google, etc. had had. Max's blunder of Mumbai signing, in essence revealed the truth. Truth was not sought for by me, but it fatefully unfolded amid assume good faith covers.
 * A user page cannot contain any use or misuse of the rules, law and policies of Wikipedia and US, UK and Philippine laws, lest Wikipedia's reputation and reliability be diminished. (Google, Viacom, YouTube were involved in tedious litigations).
 * User's Mike G., Cma, Lenticel and I, had indicated that we are either alumni or students of Ateneo de Manila University amid Wikipedia's policy and rule of harmonious etiquette among editors.
 * For 9 years, I studied in the Ateneo, as ex-seminarian and Jesuit ex-candidate for priesthood. In memory, I retain the noble "ratio studiorum" of St. Ignatius Ateneo's "Manual of Discipline" for students and alumni.
 * Articles 19, 20 and 21, New Civil Code is the most fundamental Code on Phil. human relations which also covers Wikipedia English (USA, UK, and Phil. laws govern). Article 171/172 RPC[2. Causing it to appear that persons have participated in any act or proceeding when they did not in fact so participate;3. Attributing to persons who have participated in an act or proceeding statements other than those in fact made by them;4. Making untruthful statements in a narration of facts]
 * [CHAPTER 2
 * Since you and my ex-parent Ianlopez indicated that you are Filipino Wikipedians, I appeal to you, in assume good faith, to faithfully try your best as parent, to amicably end this dispute, with the kindness of User:Efe.
 * I received today, the June 3, 2008 S.C. En Banc Resolution expunging from the records, my April 4, 2008 7th final appeal, without contempt warning however. I remain today a jobless judge in pretend world. This is my destiny, and I believe in Wikipedia rule of law. (It is now exactly 25 long years, that as ex-seminarian, the 3 holy angels ridiculed in judgment as dwarfs first appeared to us on June 2, 1983).
 * I fully respect Mike G, Lenticel and all of Filipino editors here, amid these. But I found compassionate application of Wiki rules by unknown foreign editors who could not understand these. I never found kindness in my own country, I found it in Wikipedia.
 * Vide: IP Address of User:Maxschmelling discussion above:With all due respect, may I please write hereunder, a very important - critical fact of this discussion. Max used an IP address and later asked apology for not using Max's username. This is utter bad faith, which might have caused the mediator/s to be misled. At any rate, I write this for the better solution of this dispute in good faith::Max admitted:
 * "I promise to be terse. It is not irrelevant to bring up evidence of a conflict of interest. You have a personal stake in "coconut healing oil" and thus what you choose to write about it should be critically viewed, especially if there are questions about the sources you use as evidence. 59.183.139.189 (talk) 06:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, I made history, by being the very first to be the first Wikipedian to register and create an article on Knol, I am an avid fan of David Dicks and Zac Sunderland. In conscience, please deeply understand not my sufferings but the dire pains of those who made my destiny more cleansed, amid their loved ones more painful ... Sincerely, your puppy. Please put back your Terrier Image, we (my guides) miss it. Please.--Florentino floro (talk) 13:19, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

There he goes again
Hi again Diligent, I thought maybe my comments and max's might be getting buried in all of Floro's text, but you seem to have gone online since Floro started trying to turn the issue around on us, so I'm hoping you get to see this. Considering that this is the third time this week that Floro's written one of these, surely you can see by now what our issues are with him. Again, please do consider commenting on the RFC, because as max said, Floro seems to be taking your silence as tacit approval of his edits, accusations, and actions. --Migs (talk) 13:28, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Floro is beginning to get off-subject, and at some point in time he's going to have to address his own behavior. Maxschmelling's situation is irrelevant to his own mistakes.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 15:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, but given all the accusations Floro's throwing out, don't you think that as his adopter you should at the very least inform him that these are all in very poor taste, especially since his claims about us are objectively incorrect/inflammatory and subjectively creepy? --Migs (talk) 16:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 16:43, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. :) --Migs (talk) 17:09, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome :) - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 17:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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RFA thankspam
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoy <sup style="color:red;">gabs <sub style="color:blue;">adds 19:39, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Adoption
I saw your wiki adoption thingy and was wondering if you would adopt me? Marx01 (talk) 21:38, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

hey bubba :-P
hey could you fix my user page to look somewhat like yours? ITS AWESOME!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by B.L.A.Z.E (talk • contribs) 00:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you
Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Categories
Just a heads up — it's not really appropriate for you to change the name of articles in categories during an ongoing WP:CFD, even if you think the result of the CFD is inevitable or predictable. Many users like to see what a category looks like in terms of contents at the time of nomination, and they cannot if the articles are removed. The same goes for creating the new proposed category during the CFD — not a great idea as it causes confusion and is really a premature action by a few days. Thanks! Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Didn't mean to cause any confusion here. I closed the CFD in accordance with the WP:MOS guidelines, and the consensus to do so.  Let me know if you have any additional questions.  Thanks, - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 17:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Even if there is a consensus for a speedy rename, WP:CFDS requires a minimum period of 48 hours between the nomination and renaming. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:18, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes; correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I changed them just after it became 48 hours.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 00:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * For the Quantum Gravity ones, the nomination is listed as being posted at 14:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC). Your closing is listed as taking place at 22:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC). That's only 8 hours, which is 40 short of the minimum time period. Cgingold complained at 20:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC) that the categories had been changed in all the articles already, so that takes us down to more like 5½ hours. Unless I'm missing something here ... Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I got confused as to which one you were talking about.  Yes, I probably should have waited 48 hours.  Thanks for the heads up.  - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 16:00, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, I see. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)