User talk:Vanjagenije/Archive 4

A barnstar for you!
Thanks a lot :-) Vanjagenije (talk) 11:13, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Undeleting request 3
Hi, I would like u to un-delete the biography page of Samu Haber because of the lack of references. I have added two references into the page, webpage of Sunrise Avenue (the band of Samu Haber) and also my company's webpage, which is the management company of Sunrise Avenue and Samu Haber. Both should be reliable sources in my opinion. Please advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msn1003 (talk • contribs) 10:02, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! The article you've written (Samu Haber) is not deleted yet. It is just proposed for deletion. It will be deleted on December 13 unless the problem is solved. Wikipedia policy states that every article about a living person must include at least one reference to wp:reliable wp:independent source (see here: WP:BLP). You included references to the web site of subject's band, and a web site of his management. Those are no way independent sources (learn here: wp:Independent sources). You need sources like books, newspapers, magazines, internet news portals, or so. You need sources that are themselves independent of the subject. But don't worry. If the person is wp:notable, it should be easy for you to find and include references to independent reliable sources. You still have 9 days to do that. Feel free to ask me anything you'd like to know. And, don't forget to sign every post you write on the talk page. If you are not sure how to sign a post, see here: wp:Signatures. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:33, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Request for an Notice remove
Hello Sir I created one article titled as "K.Sankar Please review that article. Because i added some references. If it is suitable you remove that notice (Rootkit 123 (talk) 13:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC))
 * Hi! If you added references, you can remove the notice yourself. There is no reason for it to be in the article any more, so anyone may remove it, you don't have to wait for me. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Breo page
Hello, Thanks for your feedback on the Breo page I created. Can you point out areas I should remove/reword to move it away from the 'advert' tag? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashnaggit (talk • contribs) 15:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! I tagged the article Breo with the "promotional" tag. The article writes only about a company and it's products, but does not explain why is this company notable. Why should it be in encyclopedia? Every article has to explain to its reader why the subject is notable. You should explain why the company is notable and include references to reliable sources to prove its notability (see here: WP:COMPANY). You should rewrite the article to make it more like an encyclopedia article, and less like an advertisement. You should read this to find out more about this topic: WP:NOTADVERTISING. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:19, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Cheers, i'll read that and rework the page. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dashnaggit (talk • contribs) 16:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi

 * Hi! Wikipedia policy is that every article on living person must include references to reliable independent sources (see here: WP:BLP). You crated an article about a person, but you only included links to his Facebook profile and his official web site. Those are not independent, nor reliable sources. If the person is indeed "one of the best" and "true genius" as you say, than it should not be a problem for you to find some reliable sources about his life and his work (books, newspapers, magazines, web portals, or so.). See here more about this problem: Verifiability and Notability (people). Only persons who are notable enough should have article in Wikipedia, and the Notability is proved through reliable sources. Those sources must prove that the person is well known and important. If you want the article to be kept, and not deleted, you must find and include some references in the article to prove the subject's notability. Feel free to ask me anything you'd like to know. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I see somebody proposed the article for wp:speedy deletion. If it gets deleted, don't be angry. You can write the article again, but you should follow my advises and include some references to prove Notability next time. Just relax, almost every users' first article gets deleted (also happened to me). You just need a little experience with Wikipedia rules. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations
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Deletion of article Technology in Mexico
I think that the article is very different from Science and Technology in Mexico, it talks about mexican technological institutions and their benefit to mexican technology improvement, maybe the title should be changed but I don´t think there are reasons for deleting it.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaudiaObregónVázquez (talk • contribs) 11:26, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! I am not the one who decides about deletion. The deletion discussion is going on here: wp:Articles for deletion/Technology in Mexico. You should leave your comments on that page. And, please, sign your posts (see here: WP:Signatures). Vanjagenije (talk) 18:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Mahusha
I am the new user of wikipedia. I don't know how to upload images. Please tell me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahusha (talk • contribs) 13:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You can learn everything about uploading images here: Uploading images. And, please, sign every post you write at a talk page (see here: WP:Signatures), ant leave your posts at the BOTTOM of the talk page, not at the top, as you did. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:40, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Pathicadu Pally
Hey The Page Named Pathicadu Pally Not Copied From That Website But We Are The Website Owners And The Contents Are Our Own— Preceding unsigned comment added by Towmuz (talk • contribs) 113:36, 8 December 2013
 * Hi! The article "Pathicadu Pally" was deleted from Wikipedia because it violated Wikipedia's copyrights policy. It was completely copied from a web page . On the bottom of that page there is a notice reading "Copyright © 2012 Pathicadu St.Peter's & St.Paul's Orthodox Church. All Rights Reserved." This indicates that the text is copyrighted. Copyrighted text may not be used in Wikipedia unless an explicit wp:Permission is given. The fact that you are the owner of the web site is not important. You wrote on your web site that "All Rights are Reserved", and thus, the text from that site can not be copied to Wikipedia. If you want to copy the text to Wikipedia, you must first give permission to release the text under a free license (learn more about this here: Copyrights). After you give an explicit permission, you can create the article again.
 * P.S. You should sign every post you leave at the talk page (see here: WP:Signatures). And, please, leave your posts on the BOTTOM of the talk page, not on the top as you did. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Snow Dropping
I deleted it as obvious vandalism. It would perhaps be possible to write an article about it but what he created was not a serious attempt to write a Wikipedia article - perhaps I should best call it trolling, and possibly by Sockpuppet investigations/Redbranch1984/Archive. Dougweller (talk) 19:40, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Jalpaiguri Railway Station
When you see a duplicate article such as Jalpaiguri Railway Station, it is often better to replace the duplicate article with a redirect to the original article (Jalpaiguri railway station in this case) rather than delete it outright. That's why I replaced the article with a redirect. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:31, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I was not sure whether I'm allowed to do it myself. Vanjagenije (talk) 22:33, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You can, and you  are welcome to, but  please be sure that  you  consider yourself to  have sufficient  experience to  judge the case in  hand, and if you're not sure, don't  hesitate to  ask an experienced editor, then you  will  know what  to do  next  time; Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

New Page Patrol
Hi. Thanks for patrolling new pages. We tend to  be a little more relaxed with genuine mainstream  schools  that  are proven to  exist, that's why, for example, we can't  delete them  per A7. Even if they sound promotional, rather than tagging  them  for deletion, you'll  find that  the language used can easily  be cleaned up. Note that there is a natural  tendency  for the English  used on  the Indian  sub continent  to be rather more flowery than standard English  or the neutral  English  that  is required for  an encyclopedia. We make allowances for it and clean it  up. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:00, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks! I know that I can't tag schools with A7, but I did tag a few with G11. Those sounded far too promotional to me, but I will consider your advice next time I encounter such an article. By the way, I see you're an expert on South Asian issues: When I do patrolling, what should I do with hundreds of articles about future (incoming) Malayalam movies (and similar)? I usually do not tag for deletion because I'm not sure, but I feel it's simply wrong to allow thousands of articles about completely unimportant (incoming) Indian movies. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:07, 11 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Well, I live in  souteast  Asia but  I  wouldn't  say  I'm  an expert  on  southeast  Asian topics. -  especially mMlayalam movies which even I  tend to  leave for someone more experienced in  that  area. I've noticed however that  with  some of your other CSD tags, you  appear to  be a bit  unsure. You  may  wish  to  take a moment  off patrolling  to  fully  revise WP:NPP and WP:DELETION. If you  have any  questions, don't  hesitate to  ask  me on  my  talk  page as I'm pretty  much  an expert  on  most  other deletions. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Deletion of Indian Army Fans page
Hello, Dear Vanjagenije,I was working on a wikipedia page named "Indian Army Fans" yesterday,even before I complete editing,formatting & adding content to the page,I got a notice that page is promotional and not an encyclopadic article and will be removed.Before I could do anything it got removed.

Indian Army Fans is a community located in India spreaded in different cities.It started as a facebook page to show patriotism towards nation,but afterwards as numbers of members started increasing it came into existence in real life.Not only in virtual but Indian Army Fans also started working in Real world.
 * 1) What is Indian Army Fans?

We make people aware about Indian Armed forces,sacrifice of soldiers who laid down their lives for them,motivate youth to join Indian Defence.Keep them aware about latest news and current affairs of Indian Armed Force to increase their interest in Indian defence.


 * 1) How : ?

As I mentioned Indian Army Fans is a patriotic community,all of our work is related patriotism or similar.The name itself contains "Indian Army".We work for rights of soldiers of Indian Armed Forces,We support them through several charity events,stage events,public events & fight for their rights through street protests.

Every year Kargil Vijay Divas,(26th July) is celebrated in different cities by our volunteers to pay a tribute to Martyrs & Soldiers of Kargil war.

In 2012 a small run was organized by Indian Army Fans on occasion of Kargil Vijay Diwas in Delhi,named "Run Delhi Run" & a tree plantation ceremony was also held.

After the Mumbai Attacks in 2008,Indian Army Fans also started organizing events across the country to pay tribute to the martyrs and victims of 26/11 attacks through candle light marches & vigils.

From Last two years Indian Army Fans has also started doing charity events such as warm cloth distribution in winters,giving food to the needy ones & also providing school kits to kids lives in orphanage.

This year Indian Army Fans has also started organizing bike rides in honor of Soldiers. First bike expedition took place this year on occasion of Kargil Vijay Diwas,the riders of Indian Army Fans ridden from Delhi to Kargil(#Where the Indo-Pak Kargil War took place in 1999) to pay a tribute to warriors.

Second tour was organized from Delhi To Wagah border.

Currently Third tour is being organized and will take place at the end of the month where our riders will ride from Delhi on 25th december to Kutch,Gujarat.covering many places of Rajasthan including Longewala(#Battle of Longewala,1971 Indo-Pak War).

All of our events mostly dedicated to Indian Armed Forces,and on regular bases across the country in different cities.

The core team of our community is based in Delhi,India other teams based in Jaipur,Banglore,Hyderabad,Pune,Chandigarh,Ahmedabad & Also volunteers across in almost each major city of India.

We operate India's largest Defence fan Page "Indian Army Fans".Our posts are mostly related Defence,Current affairs,Political & non political issues to keep citizen of India aware about everything,make them taking interest in such things.

We keep them updated about Wars of India,Soldiers & their sacrifices & Indian Defence through regular posting.


 * 1) Why "Indian Army Fans" wants to be on wikipedia :

We want to take "Indian Army Fans" initiative to each citizen of India,day by day people's interest in Nation's defence is decreasing.They lack of proper knowledge and information regarding Indian Armed Forces.Through our community we want to spread that knowledge.

Indian Army Fans is unique community of its kind,there is no community in India which operates at this large scale.but considering population of India its too small.We want to reach as many as people we can,make them aware about Indian Army Fans,what it is,why it is. How they can also be a part of community and show their dedication towards India & Armed forces.

As Indian Army Fans is fastest growing & largest defence page on facebook many other people have created pages/groups of same name & some also got fooled by imposters.It's needed to be stopped.We want to create an authenticated source,where people can differentiate Original from fake.

I'm attaching some of our event photo albums which are posted on facebook,kindly refer to that.

26/11 Tribute
 * Chandigarh
 * Agra
 * Ahmedabad
 * Surat
 * Delhi

26/7 Kargil Vijay Diwas Celebration
 * Mumbai
 * Chandigarh
 * Banglore
 * Hyderabad
 * Jaipur

Bike Expedition
 * Delhi to Kargil
 * Ride to Wagah border
 * Third Bike Ride Teaser

Charity Events
 * Diwali Celebration
 * Donate a smile
 * Vriddhashram (Old age home)
 * Blood Donation Camp

Honring Sacrifice
 * Visit to Village of Warrior
 * Saluting Sacrifice
 * Inquilaab Zindabaad : Saluting Freedom Fighters
 * Honor the Fallen
 * Salute a Martyr

Street Protest
 * Team protesting at India Gate
 * Hunger strike

Spreading Information Online
Covering Defence Exercises
 * Indo-Nepal Joint Exercise
 * Exercise : Indra
 * Exercise : Hand in Hand

Defence Event Coverage

 * Airforce Day
 * Passing out Parades of Military Academies
 * Aero India : 2013
 * Defence Expo
 * Army Mela [[Military Tattoo] ]

Covering News

 * INS Vikramaditya
 * C-130J Historical Landing
 * Heroics of Indian Army

History

 * Freedom isn't free
 * Rare moments of Netaji
 * War in display

I Don't know what went wrong,may be information put initially was not enough according to wikipedia regulations.I can understand that. But that was my first ever webpage on wikipedia,I don't know how to work with tags,formatting & etc.and was not allowed to upload any content too. I also attached some links in reference to show authentication of our community,various news agencies have covered our events and published.

I request you to go through the links I've posted,there are more than thousands of photos,which are not possible to attach here,so I have filtered and attached only some of them to prove authentication of Indian Army Fans community. If you want to see all of them,you can also check in albums of our facebook page "Indian Army Fans" which I've attached in link.

I would be waiting for your response. Regards, Dhruvil Dave (Designer,Writer & Team-Member of Indian Army Fans)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhruveel (talk • contribs) 08:24, 12 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi! I am not the one who has power to delete articles. I am doing wp:New pages patrol, so I proposed your article for speedy deletion under wp:A7 criteria. My proposal was reviewed by User:Kudpung (one of Wikipedia administrators) who accepted my proposition and deleted the article . If you think this is wrong and the article should be undeleted, you can write to User:Kudpung on his talk page, or you can seek wp:Deletion review. There is no point for you to explain to ME what are the "Indian Army Fans", as I have no power to neither delete, nor undelete articles. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:02, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you! 2

 * Thanks! I just want to say to you that you should not give up writing articles in Wikipedia. You wrote two articles about companies (Metro Dragon Steel Corporation and Dragon Asia Rolling Mills). Those articles will probably be deleted because their style is overly wp:promotional, and those articles do not explain why those companies are notable. WP:Verifability and WP:Notability are two most important rules of Wikipedia. Both Verifability and Notability are proved via citing WP:Reliable sources. So, you should try to write those articles again, but try to include citations of reliable sources, so to prove Verifability and Notability. If you do that, the articles would not be deleted again. Please, take some time and read our basic policies, you'll see that editing Wikipedia is great fun, but you have to know the rules of the game first (You have links to our basic policies at your talk page in the "Welcome!" section: User talk:Kendrick Zhuang). Vanjagenije (talk) 13:49, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Talkback
Hitro  talk  21:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Get lost
Why do you keep deleting my pages? And why do you care? You dont even live here. So why cant you just get out of your moms basement and do something else than screwing up everyones article. Its unnecessary and you have no reason for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hore55 (talk • contribs) 11:39, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the helpful reply in the Teahouse! What you said makes sense, and I'll keep the archive trick in mind for the future. 1bandsaw (talk) 21:29, 15 December 2013 (UTC)