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Notability of tours
It seems you have taken an interest in band tours. Please see WP:NTOUR; the last version of some of the redirected tours did not have enough reliable third-party coverage to establish the criterion. Jalen Folf  (talk)  00:08, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Bella Poarch albums


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Nomination for deletion of Template:Bella Poarch
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Nomination of Shake (IShowSpeed song) for deletion
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Call Me What You Like (Lovejoy song)
Hello. The first thing I'm going to say is don't be surprised if another user comes along and redirects this article. Instead of merely creating articles for topics you're interested in, like the works of bands you're a fan of, Google search for good news sources before creating an article. If there isn't at least four news sources, it probably shouldn't have an article on it (yet), and/or you should wait until there is. (This doesn't include college newspapers, social media sources or Wordpress blogs.) I could barely scrape together another source on top of Dork you already cited for this article, and that is a regurgitation of a press release. Sources like Apple Music and a source for Anvil Cat do not contribute to the notability of a topic. Before creating any further articles in the topic area of music, please read WP:NSONGS if you haven't already. Even if the track ends up making the UK Singles Chart or some such next week, it's still not really in the realm of notability yet and I don't think it should have been made.  Ss  112   14:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, the part about the recording date has been removed, because it's not sourced. The bit about the EP's name isn't sourced. If you got this from social media speculation and Lovejoy haven't confirmed this themselves, please remove it. Also, a band can generally be considered a genre but to put that genre in the infobox on each of their song or album articles is not considered okay per WP:V, so indie rock and indie pop have been removed.  Ss  112   14:25, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Do not stylise templates
Please do not change navboxes from the proper navbox intended for musical artists, Template:Navbox musical artist, to Template:Navbox for the sole intention of changing it red to "match the AC/DC logo". So what if their logo is red? We don't stylise templates. There's unification in these matters for a reason. Colours were stripped from Template:Infobox artist discography and other music templates because they were seen as both decorative and unnecessary, and there is a limited range of accessibility-compliant colours in the navbox for a reason, so your colours are purely decorative and not in line with WP:ACCESS. To try to get around standardisation by using a different template is inappropriate, so please do not make similar edits changing colours in other templates or on articles. Thank you.  Ss  112   20:55, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

March 2023
Please do not use styles that are nonstandard, unusual, inappropriate or difficult to understand in articles, as you did in Summer Carnival (tour). There is a Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. Thank you.  livelikemusic   ( TALK! ) 12:54, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Wake Up & It's Over redirected
What you should wait for instead is for news articles about the EP's impending release to be published. There was not one news source on the article about it—Lovejoy's main website might list the EP for pre-order but their website still isn't about the EP. You need to read WP:NALBUMS and avoid creating articles for releases until there is news coverage or a definite claim of notability about them. A top-40 single being included on it doesn't make it notable by proxy, because notability is not inherited. Thanks.  Ss  112   09:05, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

"A tweet from Billboard isn't a good source"
Before you repeat this line elsewhere, see WP:TWITTER: "Self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves" so long as it's not an exceptional claim, it's made by themselves about themselves, and there's no doubt as to its authenticity. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been replaced with the chart page from their own website, but Billboard talking about their own charts on Twitter is still an acceptable source.  Ss  112   09:26, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
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Unuseful edits
Please consider stopping the unuseful edits you're making on several of my recent GAs. These are almost completely useless edits that do not effect how the article looks to readers whatsoever; all they are doing is making the articles pop up on people's watchlists even though there's no new addition, and masking questionable edits IPs may have made before you. It feels like you are "correcting" my work like a school teacher. It is also throwing off the edit count and making you look like a bigger contributor to these articles than you are (which seems deliberate in the edits following this one for example). Kindly stop playing games as this seems a bit disruptive.--NØ 08:09, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry if I offended you by making unuseful edits, I just felt like spaces next to the dot points, etc, would kinda make it I would say "neat" ig, but preview wise, it looks fine without the spaces next to the dot points, etc. Thanks for the warning though. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 08:37, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It's fine. I wasn't offended and I wouldn't categorize the nature of my earlier message as a "warning". However, this type of thing is unnecessary.I am not sure what your issue with this particular article is and why you feel the need to keep making unnecessary experimental edits on it. If you are trying to get my attention for some reason please message me here or on my talk page directly. An article that has already been designated as a GA is not the appropriate place for you to experiment and you can expect to keep getting reverted.--NØ 09:45, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

"Flick of the Switch Tour" listed at Redirects for discussion
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much! I just added it to my user page! VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject AC/DC
Hello, Vaughan J.,

WikiProjects are not intended to be the work on ONE editor. Please propose this new WikiProject at WikiProject Council/Proposals and follow the guidelines before starting up a new WikiProject. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 18:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of AC/DC
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article AC/DC you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Shaidar cuebiyar -- Shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:22, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Quick message: you've left Wall of Sound as website for recently added ref to AC/DC.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:00, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the notice. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of AC/DC
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 * Thanks for the WikiLove! Appreciate it! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 23:01, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

AC/DC hiatus
Need a good reference for the length of AC/DC's hiatus? Its length was discussed on the article's talk page archived here. The group confirmed in 2020 that they had started recording in August 2018. See "AC/DC's 'Power Up' Is 'A Tribute' to Malcolm Young, Says His Brother Angus", which has "Power Up was recorded over a six-week period in August and September 2018 at Warehouse Studios in Vancouver..." Enjoy.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I just searched it up, but I actually can't find a reliable source for it sadly :(. The only sources that I see was when they reunited in 2020. I just can't see any sources that actually say the hiatus length. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:05, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The BlabberMouth.net source I cited was written in October 2020 and confirms that AC/DC had been working together in August 2018 (hiatus over). Their last public performance before that was in September 2016 per ref [113] (hiatus start). shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:16, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

There's more I'd like to do at AC/DC, if you can wait awhile.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:14, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's fine if you complete the article later than expected. Just let me know when you're probably done with it, then I'll start another GAN. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 11:18, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 11:21, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

You would have noticed how the article has many of its refs housed in the References section, leaving ref tabs in the main text. However, latter day refs (including those I've introduced recently) are still in the main text. I suggest moving all those ones into the References section, too. However, this will take time and I hope that Edit conflicts don't occur during that process.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:35, 28 September 2023 (UTC)


 * I think I've got them all but another set of eyes would help.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:51, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @shaidar cuebiyar I just used CTRL+F to see if you got them all, and I can confirm, you have got them all. —  VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 02:24, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

I thank you for all of your sweeping up after my messes. Its been great working with you on this article but I'm moving on now. Re-read the GAR, check as many points as you can. Consider adding sound files. Otherwise have fun at your next GAN: I hope it flies high.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:45, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping out! It's also been delightful working with you. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:52, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

@shaidar cuebiyar: Would you also like for me to nominate it for FAC in the future, with you as credit for helping out with the article as well? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:20, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


 * You go with what you feel is best. I support whichever pathway you choose. Best of fortune with the article. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I applaud your recent work on this article, including the reference section's reformatting and article-wide copy editing. Sometimes that feels like the death by a thousand cuts but your good work is appreciated.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 02:30, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

GAN
Hey Vaughan, I've been meaning to respond to your message but got side-tracked IRL and some Wiki commitments. Unfortunately given the depth and size of the article, as well as it's popularity in mainstream music, I regret that I cannot commit to a detailed GA review. I am a bit inexperienced in the GA review space, especially in reviewing "high-importance"-rated BLPs. Anyway, good luck with the GA and all the best! Pseud 14 (talk) 19:36, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

List of AC/DC songs
Hi, you seem to have removed a lot of information from this article, particularly the singles. Just wondering why? Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey Bretonbanquet, I was doing a cleanup of the article. You’re more than welcome to add it back. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 21:32, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries, I'll have a look when I get more time. I think some of it could go back. The text and refs look good. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 21:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Acca Dacca disco
I'm finishing off some work on a jazz music awards article. Hopefully it will be done in two or three days. I'll be along to the disco as soon as.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Sounds good! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've jumped in already. Do we need a Sales column per Daft punk discography? BTW, there are very few recent FLs for band discographies.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:28, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Late reply, but yes we do. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 03:47, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've started adding release Format info. In which case was High Voltage (Aus) issued on cassette tape in 1975?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:33, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Yes they did, see Holmgren ref MC = Music cassette wL to Cassette tape.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm trying to avoid re-issues or later releases, e.g. DDDDC was not released in US until 1981 but Atlantic/WEA issued it in Europe (and elsewhere?) in '76. We might need a note within table about chart posi of 3 and multi-Pl in US.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:54, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Division of labour to avoid edit conflict: I'm working down the Studio albums subSectn; you can either work the Lead or any of the later Sectns, if you don't mind.
 * 2) Decision: should High Voltage (int) be moved to Compilation albums? The parent article states "a 1976 compilation of tracks".shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:59, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * For #1, that sounds good! For #2, it's a studio album, so maybe let it stay there. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 04:01, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This has been discussed previously at talk page archive. Despite not being a studio album, it was resolved to leave this release in the Discography section of the AC/DC article.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:20, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I've had my first run through Studio albums. You can tackle Sales column if you wish. I'll head down to Live albums etc.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:48, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Gotchu. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:57, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@shaidar cuebiyar: I've tackled all the singles to be the ones you see on Daft Punk's or Taylor Swift's discography articles. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 22:49, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Rather than Taylor Swift (FLC in 2010) check more recent FL e.g. Angeline Quinto discography (Oct 2023). As far as I can see there is no charting information, whatsoever. Another interesting difference is the addition of a Refs col per table. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think Angeline might have charted at all, hence why there's no charting section in the discography article. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:16, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, my thoughts exact. BTW, I don't think we need a separate Refs col per table. Other recent FL discographies don't seem to have them. I suppose we'll find out at the review. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds good. We will soon find out. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:34, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

@shaidar cuebiyar: Are you going to fix the rest of the video albums' details and stuff? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 08:22, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I got side-tracked by charting. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:27, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. I did notice. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 08:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Tribute compilations
According to WP Discographies – Style What Should not Be Included, Dot point 8: "Releases by other artists as a tribute or cover."

I think we should delete that whole subSectn. What is your view?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Yeah, deleted that section. It's not needed. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:05, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

Video albums

 * 1) I've just noticed that there are no Aus chartings for any of these despite some being multi-Pl.
 * 2) How do you feel about [offline] sources for these? ARIA used to store their ARIA Reports online at PANDORA/Trove from "Issue 566" (WC: 1st January 2001) to "Issue 1544" (WC: 7th October 2019) but promptly stopped with no real explanation. Afterwards archive copies were available until about last year or so. Now neither are accessible via internet. Amongst those reports various component charts existed e.g. ARIA Top 15 DVD or ARIA Top 40 DVD. Answer below
 * That would be great! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) Stiff Upper Lip Live reached No. 2 and stayed on various DVD charts for at least 93 (non-continuous) weeks. Needs clarification
 * No. 2 on all charts that is mentioned in the sectioned? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure when the various DVD chart names changed but I've seen ARIA Audio Visual, ARIA Top 15 DVD, ARIA Top 40 Music DVD. For long charting DVD releases, they would pass through different named charts. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:39, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohhhhh okay. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:42, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) It first reached No. 2 on 17 December 2001. ✅
 * 2) If you don't have a copy of ARIA Reports, you cannot verify these. You, and reviewers, will have to "assume good faith" for the DVD charting edits. Answer below
 * Yeah, I don't have copies of it. —  VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

BtW, I saw you caught Plug Me In, and some of these from the albums' articles, well done. Maybe you could download them for your own cache?
 * 1) Live at Donington peaked at No. 1, it was on ARIA Top 40 Music DVD for at least 115 weeks. ✅
 * 2) No Bull: Live at the Plaza de Toros de Las Ventas, Madrid also reached No. 1, charted for at least 147 weeks. ✅
 * 3) Live at River Plate No.1 on ARIA Top 40 Audiovisual, on chart for at least 137 weeks. ✅
 * Thanks! I also just downloaded them. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 08:15, 9 November 2023 (UTC)


 * 1) For Issue 790 add   ✅
 * 2) Issue 921 is Ian Wallace, again. He's the most common author for the reports. ✅
 * 3) I'm done for tonight. I found laserdisc for Fly on the Wall but the source is problematic. Need to find a better one or I'll scrub it.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:10, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Good job for today! Have a good night mate. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 09:37, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Update on ARIA Reports: archive copy seems to be working today. 991 issues. They have to be downloaded individually. I'm not sure how long they'll remain available.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:33, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Accreditations
ARIA still shows their accreditations per here download the whole lot. We will have to check all the ARIA values, I've already seen an album accreditation used for a single of same name.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 08:24, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I just downloaded the whole lot. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 08:26, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I've checked all the ARIA certs, added/updated archive-urls; adj archive-dates & access-dates.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Query: Are there any more New Zealand certifications? The article has archive copy of Radioscope from 2011 for Iron Man 2 and Black Ice and a Top 40 charting for Rock or Bust. What about: Query: Do we supply certification information for markets, which are not shown in adjacent charting columns? e.g. T.N.T. was certified Platinum+Gold in Mexico and Back in Black article has 14 certificates.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:43, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) DVDs Live at River Plate gold, Live At Donnington platinum, No Bull  platinum, Plug Me In 2× platinum.
 * 2) I cannot find an easy search method for finding others.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:07, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * We leave them out per WP:DiscogStyle.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 00:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Done?
@shaidar cuebiyar Do you think our work is done, and may be ready for FLC, or do we have to expand the lead a bit? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 02:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm still checking its wording. I'd link to avoid long, awkward sentences. While I'm going through, I check refs. So just given me a day or so longer.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:28, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 02:30, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * We have a problem with mvdbase.com per Reliable sources/Perennial sources (see here). I know I added it. It means we need to find refs for whole lotta table.
 * What is your opinion on IMVDb site? It is discussed here.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:22, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah that sounds more than reliable, other than MVDBase! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 23:15, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * While on refs, each single requires a ref. Some of those refs may be found in their article's or the parent album articles.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:28, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Check note [E] in singles' col US Main. Do we need the same note higher up the col for earlier charting songs?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:38, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I did realise it wasn't in the earlier charting songs. Added that. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:51, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

What's your opinion on some of the refs being the AUS chart discography section, since it shows the release date of the single? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 01:10, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Forgot to ping: @shaidar cuebiyar. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 01:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Leave it in for now. Time to tidy up and then you can launch it 2moro?shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Sounds good mate! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 01:20, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Once you fix the RPM problem (see below) you can throw our collab at FLC.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I think I fixed it. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:38, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Tidying up

 * 1) Canadian charts require updating. Latter day album articles use Billboard Canadian charts. Earlier ones use RPM. According to WP article on RPM they stopped publishing in Nov 2000. The ref link in discography tables was archived in 2012 and only provides a list of search results, which are then to be opened and searched per date. This is difficult and tiresome. Obviously it cannot give charting after 2000.
 * 2) Related problem: Live albs ref for Can goes to French charting!
 * 3) Nah RPM archive charts still problematic. Click on next three times and it spirals out.
 * 4) UK Albs archived link goes to Singles list.
 * 5) Certifications cols: Show certifying organisation e.g. SNEP not FRA. ARIA is correct.
 * 6) Query: Lead ¶ swap? 3 for 2.

Ready now?
@shaidar cuebiyar: Are we ready for the list to be at FLC now? — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 06:39, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah. Well done, you got RPM to work, albeit laborious to find specific AC/DC album/single. Nevertheless, it seems to work. Go for it!shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:06, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright! POSTED! Now we just have to wait until reviewers come in and do some reviews! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Different chart
I've changed Nor chart col for Ger col in both Studio albums and Soundtrack albums. The German market is much bigger, AC/DC had greater certifications in Germany and generally higher charting for most albums. I hope you're okay with this.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 20:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I’m okay with it. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 21:36, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Don Ienner
Hi, I am Don Ienner's son helping my dad out with his Wikipedia article. Not too long ago I posted a few suggestions to add important information to the article. I saw that you have an interest in music and thought you might like to help with editing this page, since my understanding is that because of my conflict of interest I should not make any edits myself. Here is a link to my suggestions. Thanks so much. GarrettEye (talk) 10:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi again. I noticed that you recently made an edit to Don Ienner's Infobox, so I am wondering if you might be interested in taking a look at the latest edit request I posted here at Talk:Don_Ienner. The edits add important information to the article, and include reliable sources. Thanks so much. GarrettEye (talk) 20:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of AC/DC
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Your GA nomination of AC/DC
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 * All your hard work on this article has been recognised and appreciated – well done.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I'm on vacation now, but I'll probably put this on FA after. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 07:25, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * You'll need to address any left over items from GAR4 and GAR3 as well as the last FAR. I'm not able to commit to this journey any longer but I wish you all the best on your progress. Have a good new year, too. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject AC/DC
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Happy Birthday!
Thank you very much! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 03:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * AC/DC asks "Are You Ready?" on your bday! What's going on? congrats, mate.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:48, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha, they sure did, didn't they! I guess that counts as a present for an AC/DC fan like me: getting a teaser from AC/DC themselves lol. I'm excited for what's coming though! Thanks mate. P.S. I forgot to say, that pretty much sums up my night on my birthday. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Promotion of AC/DC discography

 * shaidar cuebiyar: We did it! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 20:03, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You thoroughly deserve this accolade. Keep on editing.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 03:31, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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 * I will say that not all things go the way you expect it to go. Thank you so much for the cookie :) — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 01:59, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of The Razors Edge (AC/DC album)
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 * Well done, mate.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 21:00, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate. First GA without you helping out. :) —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 21:57, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

MHRB
Added some material and refs there but you'll need to copy edit the stuff. I have the band formed in London in 1972. They were a studio-only/sessions musicians band. That version recorded at least two singles (maybe three but cannot be sure). The Sydney-version were reformed in mid-1973 and recorded the album to give Angus and Malcolm a taste of what it was like to perform in a studio. Some of the refs contradict each other and content at the album's wp article but I'll leave that all for you to sort out. Have fun.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks mate! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 04:22, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Album also issued as Full File in 1981 by EMI with 15 tracks, catalogue no. EMX-107.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:49, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Done! — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:09, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * shaidar cuebiyar: How does it look at the moment? Cause I think it looks pretty good, and it might be done. — VAUGHAN J.  ( TALK ) 05:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Even though the album has its own article a brief description/review of it in the band's article would help. ✅
 * Given the scrutiny of AC/DC over the last 40+ years, is it generally accepted that this album is Angus & Malcolm's earliest recordings? Did either get recorded separately?
 * Cover versions of the band's tracks by other artists.
 * shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 07:08, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe the AC/DC article should be changed to reflect the junior Young brothers joining this band. AC/DC article has "The Young brothers had joined the Marcus Hook Roll Band in 1972, which provided..." Since MRHB formed in London and they were still in Sydney this is problematic. Furthermore MHRB has "The second version of Marcus Hook Roll Band were formed in Sydney in mid-1973 with... George's younger brothers Angus Young on guitar and Malcolm Young on guitar..." I'll leave you to change this.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 20:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)


 * I just fixed that. —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 22:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Date formatting 🥸
Hello, novice editor again. I'm curious over your apparent need to change the dates on some templates. Is there a reason or standard for this? Carlinal (talk) 00:43, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

2022 Optus data breach
Hey, thanks for removing my template on the talk page. I was about to nominate to FAC, but changed my mind last minute, as first-time nominators are asked to recieve mentoring before nominating. JML1148 ( talk &#124; contribs ) 23:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * No worries. If you feel like you now want to open it up for FAC, let me know. That way I'll open it up for you. I'll even make a few copyedits before I open it for you. —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 01:47, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

tCE PR
I thought the PR had lapsed.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:38, 14 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I only made the PR as section 4, per other PR's. Is that fine? —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 02:49, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Seems to work. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:22, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Sheffzick
Hi, I'm just querying the addition of Sheffzick to the AC/DC members page. I haven't reverted you but I think saying he was a member of AC/DC is a real stretch. The band hadn't been named, and never played a gig with him in the lineup. He really just knocked about in some pre-band rehearsals. Engleheart's book doesn't actually talk about him being a member of AC/DC, and I don't think any other source mentions him at all. It's more accurate to say he was recruited with what would become AC/DC in mind, but was offloaded before the band was properly formed. He might be better suited to a footnote somewhere. It's also worth pointing out that if we decide Sheffzick was part of some original lineup of the band, then neither Dave Evans nor Angus were original members, as their arrival came after Sheffzick had left. If we take Engleheart's word exactly as he's written it, that "lineup" appeared to be Malcolm, Sheffzick and Burgess, which doesn't look like a full band to me – it doesn't appear to have had a vocalist. Bretonbanquet (talk) 02:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually, as I was writing that, you've put him in the "others" section, so I guess that's more appropriate. Bretonbanquet (talk) 02:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I kinda figured that you sent it during the time. —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 03:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

May 2024
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 * Hi, You are meant to put the GAN template on the top, so that's what I did. —  VAUGHAN J.   (t · c) 22:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)