User talk:VegaDark/Archive 3

Vandalism on Aspartame
A previously blocked, vulgar, abusive, and persistent vandal is rampaging there. -- Fyslee/talk 18:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Answered your question
Hi Vegadark, as a courtesy, I am letting you know I have answered your question to me at my RFA. Happy editing. &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  05:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by edit count
Thank you for letting me know, I'm just trying to make a clean start, I'll look into making the nomination Adam McCormick 23:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Robert W. Lundeen
I just (I hope) rescued his article from a speedy deletion and see he's not on the list of OSU alums. I'm no good at quickly figuring out tables, so I thought I would give you a heads up so you could add him yourself. He's pretty interesting, if you have time you could probably expand his article a bit too. Happy editing! Katr67 18:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * re:UO/OSU--Oops! I can't help it. I grew up in Eugene and graduated from the UO. It's in the water. Nothing personal, I swear. Would it help if I said I can't stand green and yellow together? Anyway, I don't think Lundeen actually taught at OSU, and I don't think being on a board qualifies him as being faculty. I think the position is more of a business-type thing rather than an academic-type thing, if that makes sense. Katr67 22:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Reply
Oh dear! Well thanks for notifying me about it - my other languages had categories and I wondered why this one didn't... – Se bi  ~ 02:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

My Rfa
Hello, VegaDark. Thank you very much for your kind support on my recent Rfa, it succeeded! I feel thrilled and hope to live up to your expectations. If you spot me messing things up, feel free to yell at me :) Yours truly, PeaceNT 06:43, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

My RFA
Many thanks for your support at my RFA. It ended successfully and I am now a glorified janitor. If I can be of any assistance please don't hesitate to contact me through my talk page. Happy editing! &mdash; O cat ecir  Talk  18:12, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Recent Block of 222.153.78.50
Nailed my talk page after being reported, ThanksVaubin 07:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Please note
Please note User talk:Shanel. - jc37 23:09, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

User Category for Discussion
Thanks for the heads up on my talk page concerning the possible deletion of Category:Wikipedians who don't own automobiles --DieWeibeRose 06:13, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

is-0
No problem. I actually like seeing it go away. Would this template also be for deletion? Template:User is-0 --Steinninn talk 03:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. Wait, I'm a bit tired. Did you also mean that they should not be in the is category? --Steinninn talk 04:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Done, it looks like the template never put you into the is category, it just said that it did. Bastard. Thanks for noticing the is-0 category. --Steinninn talk 04:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I noticed that some of the users that use it are members of the Icelandic Project, so I think it's good that they can mark that they don't actually speak Icelandic, their just interested. --Steinninn talk 04:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Holdon--Category:Car-free Wikipedians
I placed this text in Category_talk:Car-free_Wikipedians:


 * Administrator VegaDarkhas already expressed her/his determination to speedy delete this category. Category:Car-free Wikipedians is not a clone of Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars. "Car-free Wikipedians" is not  a "not-category" but rather about an affirmatiion of support for or adherence to the Car-free movement. In this, it follows the logic of the Straight edge Wikipedians category. The category links users to the Car-free movement article and to a movement that exists external to the Wikipedia community. Car-free Wikipedians could reasonably be expected to be interested in collaborating on the Car-free movement article and some of the several related articles listed in its "See also" section. None of this was true of the now deleted Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars.


 * Wikipedia's "speedy deletion" policy states that, "Where reasonable doubt exists, discussion using another method under the deletion policy should occur instead." There is reasonable doubt about whether the two categories in questions are substantially the same. Also, since Category:Car-free Wikipedians was created days before Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars was deleted then criterion G4 does not apply--it is patently not "A copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted." Furthermore, as the creator of both categories, I can state unequivocally that Category:Car-free Wikipedians was created as a good faith effort to address valid concerns about Category:Wikipedians who don't own cars, which I never voted to keep. Reasonable doubts exist, therefore, any discussion of deleting Category:Car-free Wikipedians--if such a discussion takes place at all--should not take place using the speedy delete method. --DieWeisseRose 09:25, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

--DieWeisseRose 09:44, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * A "copy, by any title, of a page that was deleted" does not mean it had to be created after the deleted category. And yes, I still believe this is speedyable as substantially similar.  But, I see no harm in bringing this rename to UCFD instead, so that's what I will do when the current debate is closed. VegaDark (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you. --DieWeisseRose 02:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

User edit categories
The categories corresponding to the User contrib template are all up for deletion, please weigh in at the discussion if you care. Adam McCormick 04:38, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

666 Satan
Hey, i got a guy Tokyo Manga909(i did the talk page cuz he doesnt have a userpage) proceeded to change all the articles of 666 Satan to O-Part Hunter, i have since reverted them back because there was(as far as i know) no discussion over if the page should be changed... if i made a mistake in doing so i apologise, but i swill thought i'd give you a heads up about it... his reason for changing it was "Because VIZ Media Changed it to prevent protests from religious or parental groups", also which imho was not a good reason as this is an English wikipedia not an American wikipedia... i hope everything is going good for you in RL and all that, have a good rest of the night/day if i dont talk to you before it is over.... Ancientanubis ,  talk  23:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ya so i have since recently been thinking... i ended up reading the guys talk page and he seems to be doing alot of things against the rules, o well... hopefully he wont try it again:P.... Ancientanubis ,  talk  03:09, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Language cats for Deletion
Oh, but there are so many more! Just in English, we have two cats for "Hibernian English" (it looks like somebody cleared out several more subcats there, but I can support — maybe — one); "Lazy English" (with six subcats); "New England English" and "New York English" (both with recursive problems somewhere); "Scouse English" (with one user); "Mixed English"; "US English" with six subcats (one of which is "Southern English", which is both silly and US-centric); "Canadian English" with four subcats; Australian English with eight subcats, two of which apparently deal with Aboriginal Australian and shouldn't even be classified as English at all; and "en-gb-3" tucked in under EN-3. It's the only British English cat, and if it is kept, it should be brought out to the same level as US, Irish, Australian, and Canadian English (which should be pared down to one cat each, maximum). My pref would be to nuke them all and just keep EN-1 through EN-5. There are also lovely cats outside of English, such as Category:User IntS and its five subcats for Internet Slang; Category:User en-cñ for Konyo, which doesn't even have an entry in WP (the link in the userbox goes to the Category page; Category:User tokipona and its five subcats, which also doesn't have a WP entry; Category:User sjn and its three subcats for Sindarian, a language created for Lord of the Rings by Tolkien, and on and on. I will nominate all of these cats for deletion if we get a consensus on the Californian English category. Horologium t-c 20:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I've been looking forward to having these deleted, hopefully there will be consensus. I don't know if you will be able to get the LOTR languages deleted though, I've tried to have a couple of those deleted several times without success. Feel free to try, however. VegaDark (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * How many admins monitor that section? It appears that only a couple of you ever venture in there, which means that there are very few admins who can close these debates. There is another cat Category:User_AIM-Able that has been lingering since 3 June waiting to be nuked; every !vote was to delete it and its subcats.As to the LOTR languages, ask how many articles deal with the languages; if there aren't any, then the category serves no use. As far as I know, there are no plans to create a Sindarian version of Wikipedia. The same is true of Vulcan and Klingon (from Star Trek), and just about any other language created for a work of fiction. If I find them, I'll try to nuke them as well. Horologium t-c 20:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just a couple others ever close debates there. I'd love to close some of the overdue ones, but I try not to close my own nominations. VegaDark (talk) 01:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and moved part of my comment here over the the CFD board because the board needed a whack with the clue bat. 51 cats for one language is far too many, and I'm hoping that confronting the people discussing the issue with a figure that high may startle them into agreeing to some serious pruning. Horologium t-c 05:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I just had a thought (a momentous occasion indeed). Instead of trying to delete all of the non-ISO categorized "languages", we might try simply merging them with the parent language categories. That might meet with a little less resistance. I went to ethnologue.com (which has a searchable database of ISO 639-3 cats) and took a look at the entry for French (re:fr-qb). There are five French variants that have their own codes: French (fra), Cajun French (frc), Picard (pcd), Walloon (wln), and Zarphatic (zrp). (I also searched by country and verified that Canada's version is considered to be basic French). Under that reasoning, your suggestion to delete both Canadian French entries would be correct, but a two-step merge might be easier, first to get rid of the duplicate category, then another one to merge all of the fr-qb cats to French. A similar merge could then be done for all of the variants of English. (I found another one last night, under the heading of Category:User au, without the mention of English. urg.) FWIW, there are three ISO 639-3 variants of English; English (eng), Scots (sco), and Yinglish (yib), which is English with a splash of Yiddish (including some of the grammar rules of Yiddish). The entry on Yinglish specifically states that it is always a second language, with English as the primary. Since Scots is already filed under sco (four cats), that leaves only Yinglish as a valid possible add (Yiddish is in there, but not Yinglish). Horologium t-c 04:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

My cats for Deletion
Ok. I dont actually care much. Thanks for telling me though. Anonymous Dissident Talk 09:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Category for deletion: HD DVD
Hello. I was wondering if you could comment in that discussion on why you prefer "support HD DVD" over "prefer HD DVD". It seems like "support" is a more divisive term. Bladestorm 15:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Help Please
I was editing some Alabama counties (Franklin and Colbert) when I noticed the Alabama state template messed up. I am not experienced enough to fix the problem. I am not sure what is happening but I see gibberish being created by it. I looked at the template history and still couldn't figure out what is happening. I thought you may be able to help or find somehone who could. Thanks.  Mark @ DailyNetworks  talk  15:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
 * DISREGARD - Somebody fixed the problem. Thanks.  Mark @ DailyNetworks   talk  00:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Category:User uz-0
I have a question. As I see in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Babel the purpose of user xx-0 category is to show that:"xx-0 if you don't understand the language at all. Use it not for every language that you don't know, but only when there is some reason why you might be expected to know it. For example, you may be of Italian descent, but you do not speak the Italian language."I am exactly the case (just change 'Italian' in the example to 'Uzbek'), because I am from Uzbekistan and I practically do not know Uzbek. I understand some words, but cannot speak/write/whatever. So I want to state that on my user page in form of user box. Why do you delete it all the time, I wonder? Stansult 13:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

1942
Just a heads up on the Articles for deletion/List of Battlefield 1942 mods (5th nomination. Bfelite 23:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Categories
I dont speak english:((--Uannis 12:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

3RR rule violation
Hey VegaDark, long time no chat... how you been, whats been crackin etc etc well now that all the small talk is outta the way on to business(lol), i hate to be a tattle tale and i was planning on dealing with this my self (pointing out and guiding the "lost soul" on what he's been doing wrong and showing him how to improve his self) but upon deeper thought (and discussion with a fellow editor/friend) i have decided to report a 3RR violation, the user is GasSnake or Poison Oak and has been conducted on the page of List of O-Parts in 666 Satan(history), please let me know if there is anything i can do to help with this & or if i am taking the right steps/makin the right decisions with the events that are unfolding in front of me, criticism is always welcome:P thanks again,  Ancientanubis ,  talk  03:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know what this person's talking about VD......I haven't read the rules and I do this site when I'm not enjoying my life away from wikipedia--GasSnake or Poison Oak 03:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * In the future you should report this at the 3RR violations page, as I have had extremely limited time on Wikipedia recently. VegaDark (talk) 18:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm on Editor Review
I'm on Editor Review! please give me a review and pass it along to others that ya are friends with as i want ALOT of review, thanks  Ancientanubis ,  talk  Editor Review 06:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

WPOR Collaboration of the Week
Greetings WPOR member, we are starting a weekly collaboration project where we will announce two articles that are currently stubs that we hope to work together to improve. No pressure to help, but if you would like to, just stop by one of the articles and see if you can find information to expand the article with, copy edit what is there, help with formatting, or add some images. This week’s articles are: Alis volat propriis and Fusitriton oregonensis. Aboutmovies 22:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

FL nomination
Hey, VegaDark -- you contributed some great suggestions in my nomination of List of Dartmouth College alumni for a Featured List. I'm now doing the same for List of Dartmouth College faculty, and as no one's weighed in yet, I wonder if you might give it a look?


 * Featured list candidates/List of Dartmouth College faculty

Thanks -- Dylan 18:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

WPOR Collaboration of the Week
Greetings WikiProject Oregon employees. Well a big thanks to all those who helped improve Alis volat propriis and Fusitriton oregonensis last week. This week’s Stub improvement are: Government of Oregon which should be easy, and Miss Oregon. Again, no pressure to help with the collaboration, choose one, both, or neither. Also, feel free to opt out of the notifications at the new page dedicated to collaborative efforts at WPOR (newsletter is in R&D). Aboutmovies 18:44, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Cat: Wikipedians in Hyogo Prefecture
You deleted this category when it was empty "for at least four days" but I have recently moved here and I suspect I will live here for a while, at least a year and probably longer. Does it make sense for me to re-create the category? --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 14:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

WPOR Collaboration of the Week
Hello again, its time for the next Collaboration of the Week. First a shout out to Sprkee for putting together some templates for this project. Now, in honor of Labor Day weekend and the outdoor nature of the activities that often accompany the three-day weekend, this week’s item is to de-redlink as many parks from the List of Oregon State Parks. Some may even by going to one of these places, a great opportunity to take a picture or two for an article. As always, participation is not required, though it is appreciated. And if you are caught, we will disavow any knowledge of your existence. Since we don’t want to waste any effort through duplication, please make a note on the talk page of which park article you are going to start. Good day! Aboutmovies 19:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

September WPOR Collaboration of the Week
First off, great job to all WikiProject Oregon folks for last week’s List of Oregon State Parks work. We pounded out six new state park articles: Sarah Helmick, Bald Peak, Bob Straub, Sumpter Valley Gold Dredge, Tumalo, and Peter Skene Ogden. Plus numerous other edits to improve the existing articles. As a reward, we are introducing the COTW award WPOR COTW award, and this time it goes to User:Woodstein52 for starting three of the articles.

On to this week. We are back to the usual two Top importance Stubs: Sunstone and Oregon, My Oregon. Both are stub pluses, so it shouldn’t take much to upgrade them both. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Good day! Aboutmovies 22:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

WPOR Collaboration: 09172007
All righty WPOR ladies and gentleman, great job last week with our state song and gemstone. I have bumped them up to Start class. I haven’t looked at the contributions, so the COTW award will be later. This week’s articles are Darlene Hooley, by special request, and another Top stub, our very own state rock, the Thunderegg. Yes, apparently we have a state rock and state gemstone. No word on whether there is a state stone too. Hooley basically needs some sources to make it to the next level. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. In the words of Beaver Joe, whoop! Aboutmovies 18:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

666 Satan name change
oy Vega, sry for bugging you with this again... but there is a cat someone named o-part hunter... and i plan on changing it to 666 Satan but i was trying to find the category deletion/name change from a while back but was unable to find it... if it comes under controversy would i be able to count on you to back me up on the verdict of that discussion???, peace  Ancientanubis ,  talk  Editor Review 03:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * nvm about that... im debating wither i should rename or propose for deletion due to this, the two category's are here and here. the main thing running in my head is that one one part i wasn't included in the discussion for the deletion, and now the same guy who changed all the article names a month or so back revived these category's but named them by the wrong name and im unable to rename them... your guidance would be greatly appreciated... thank you,  Ancientanubis ,  talk  Editor Review 03:32, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * ya, i discussed it with another friend who ended up taking care of it... thanks though,  Ancientanubis ,  talk  Editor Review 23:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Fall WPOR COTW
Welcome to autmun and the weekly COTW news. Great job to those who helped out with last week’s articles: Darlene Hooley & Thunderegg. Both made great improvements. This week, something a little different. With fall upon us, the photo ops are going to be harder to get, so we have a photo request fulfillment drive. Take a look at the requested pictures for  Oregon category or the graphics subproject for what’s needed. Then go take a picture, or search online for a free picture to upload (US gov sites are great and there are links available from the above links). If you fill a request, be sure to remove the request template from the article’s talk page. Our other item is another red link removal drive, this time on the flagship Oregon article. Like the state parks red link drive, try to coordinate on the talk page. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 01:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Week 1 October WP:ORE COTW
I know everyone has been waiting anxiously for this week’s COTW, so here they are: Barlow Road and Columbia River Plateau. Both are almost Start class, just some formatting and referencing, plus a little expansion and they will be there!

As to last week, it is difficult to track the items we were working on, but I know some pictures were added and at least three red links were removed from Oregon, so thank you to all those who participated. The award winner will be GoodDamon for their creation of the Oregon Forest Resources Institute article. We have now worked through all the Top class stubs and are into the High class stubs. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Happy editing, and remember if you see a downed power line, don’t pick it up. Aboutmovies 20:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Newsletter 5
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WPOR CoTW: Don Schollander & Conde McCullough
Greetings WPOR world. Last week was great with the Barlow Road seeing lots of improvement, maybe even B class. Columbia River Plateau also saw some improvement, maybe enough to bump it to Start. On with the countdown, another two Stubs in the High category, both happen to be people: Don Schollander a multi-gold medalist; and then world-renowned bridge architect and all-around swell guy Conde McCullough. Schollander needs sources more than anything, and McCullough needs more of a bio, plus maybe a nice chart for the bridges with type/year/location/length. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. This week’s safety tip, stranger=danger. Aboutmovies 18:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiOregon COTW
Greetings once again WikiProject Oregon members. Thank you to those who help out with improving Conde McCullough and Don Schollander last week. This week is a Stub break, with a Ref improvement drive for Oregon and a request for work on Portland Police Bureau. For the ref improvement, this means sourcing tagged statements and standardizing all existing citations, both of which are needed for GA and FA status. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 18:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration of the Week
Howdy doody ya’ll WPOR poke, time for more COTW. Thanks for the work on Portland Police Bureau and improving the references at Oregon. This week we are back to Stubs with Eastern Oregon and Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. Both need just a little TLC to make it to Start. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 01:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

SPAM ala COTW
Ladies and Gentlemen its time for another episode of Collaboration of the Week. Last week’s show starring Fort Vancouver National Historic Site & Eastern Oregon received high ratings. This week’s show star two more stubs, Johnny Kitzmiller & John Wesley Davis. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Don’t delay, act today! Aboutmovies 18:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

New COTW
Hello again from WikiProject Oregon. A round of applause for the project in October when we added three GAs, one FA, plus 10 DYKs! Next, thanks to all those who participated in last week’s Collaboration of the Week, John Wesley Davis & Johnny Kitzmiller. This week we have the Cayuse War, and in honor of the home opener, the Portland Trail Blazers. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 18:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats. Since you participated in the deletion discussion for these categories, you might want to participate in the deletion review. - auburn pilot   talk  17:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:SpamCop
Hi. Would you please review your comments in User categories for discussion, given the fact that Category:SpamCop had existed for a long time, since before creation logging, per this log? Thanks! — Jeff G. (talk&#124;contribs) 19:01, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

WPOR's newest COTW
Thank you to all those editors who helped improve Cayuse War and Portland Trail Blazers last week as part of the Collaboration of the Week. They are looking much better. This week, with the election season over, we’ll tackle a request for Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004), which should have plenty of WP:RS available to work with on improvement. Our other article is another Stub in the High category, our only Miss America, Katie Harman. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Legal disclaimer: WikiProject Oregon and its affiliates are not liable for any personal injuries acquired while editing on the COTW including but not limited to carpel tunnel syndrome, Wikistress, alcoholism, anxiety attacks, or extreme emotional distress. Aboutmovies 20:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 15:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Oregon COTW version 11.20
Welcome to the jungle folks. Thanks to those who helped out with Katie Harman and Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004) last week. This week, we have two high priority stubs, one of the two major hospitals in Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center, and Oregon Department of Education. Enjoy your turkeys, or for some enjoy your tofurkeys. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

WPORE Civil War COTW
Hello again to WikiProject Oregon members, time for this week’s Collaboration of the Week. Thank you to those who helped out improving Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center and Oregon Department of Education last week. This week, in honor of the annual Civil War, we have the University of Oregon Ducks and the Oregon State University Beavers. Or if you attended some other school, feel free to improve your alma mater’s article. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Looking for help : )
Please see talk page for more information. - jc37 10:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * User categories for discussion/Wikipedians by programming language (talk)

FA for WPORE COTW
Greetings boys and girls from the fine folks at The Wettest Place on Earth! A thank you to those who helped last week make some good improvements on the U of O and OSU OS articles. For this week, the next stub on the list is Fortune 1000 company Lithia Motors, Inc. way down south in Dixie, which only needs a little added to make it to Start. The other is a bit more of a challenge, but Linus Pauling I believe is our only Nobel Prize winning Oregonian, and a former FA. So hopefully we can get it back to FA, check the talk page’s article history template for comments. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 20:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Oregon COTW #25 (or so)
Hello again from the COTW of WikiProject Oregon. We thank ye who went forth through the rain and mud and helped out with last week’s articles Lithia Motors and Linus Pauling. Hopefully Linus can return to FA status early next year. This week we have the request of Oregon Ballot Measure 5 (1990) and High importance article Portland Rose Festival. Whatever work you can contribute would be greatly appreciated by our master. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

College of Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences
Hi, I'm cleaning up some old Oregon-related merge proposals and was thinking of going ahead and merging this article with the OSU article (what little there is to merge), but I see it's been included in the OSU template. Is this stub expandable and notable enough on its own, or should I just merge it for now and remove the link from the template? I see it was stubbified after someone removed all the PR/copyvio content:. Katr67 (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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Category:Wikipedian League of Old Codgers
Hello. I just saw one of your recent nominations. I wanted to check to see if you were aware that Category:Wikipedian League of Old Codgers had just been discussed at User categories for discussion/Archive/November 2007. If you were aware, then no problem; but if you were not aware, you may want to consider either a withdrawal or WP:DRV instead. --After Midnight 0001 19:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. --After Midnight 0001 19:19, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Dangolaenican
Hi, the user you just blocked has returned with a sockpuppet - (look at their edit summary)... Maybe the punk rock page should be semi-protected? Funeral 17:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

User back with new username "OrderofLaden" as per comment on my talkpage. --Nn123645 (talk) 17:49, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Back again under a new user game as per a comment on my talk page. I'm not sure if there is already a case open at WP:SSP, but this is starting to get rediculas. Apparently this user is on his 5th sock puppet. His first one being according to  on Talk:Punk Rock --Nn123645 (talk) 18:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Someone else blocked already. Please report any further sockpuppets of his at WP:AIV, as I am on and off checking my computer and you may get a faster block reporting there, plus I'll be checking that as well. VegaDark (talk) 18:11, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Back again under OrderofBush2 --Nn123645 (talk) 18:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays from WP:ORE
Hello again from the Collaboration of the Week for WikiProject Oregon. This week are two more stubs, the Oregon Garden and former Congressman Robert B. Duncan. Both are close to moving up to Start class, so only a little work is needed. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:56, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Roy Schuening
Wow, thanks a ton for your clean up work and newest addition to Roy's resume on his wikipedia page. I've been struggling with it, and it looks great. It will be fun to see where he goes in his pro career. I'm predicting the Packers. EOBeav (talk) 06:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Sorry, looks like I missed a pretty obvious citation in my tagging zeal at Oregon State University, on the rankings item. Thanks for fixing it. -Pete (talk) 07:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Holiday COTW
Greetings to all the WikiProject Oregon crew. Happy holidays to those who celebrate holidays. Thanks to those who helped out with last week’s articles Oregon Garden and Robert B. Duncan. Due to the holidays and people likely to be spending less time on Wikipedia, the new Collaboration of the Week will run for two weeks (OK actually I’ll be out of the country, but same difference). The first item will be a general Reference Improvement Drive. So find an article, source an tagged sentence or bring all the citations up to WP:CITE standards. The other item is a Tagging Drive, looking for those random articles about Oregon that do not yet have a WikiProject Oregon tag on the talk page. In the past I’ve found the Category:People from Oregon and its sub cats fertile ground for the lost Oregon souls. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:51, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help on renaming the Wikipedians in quality category to Wikipedian quality assurance specialists category. I really appreciate it. Chris (talk) 02:45, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you again
Thanks again for your help keeping Wikipedia as free of noise as possible under the current editing structure. (jarbarf) (talk) 22:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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That Tj Houshmanzadeh thing
Buddy that wasnt vandalism that was a mistake, i was using a older version to replace vandalism not realising the older version had vandalism on it..anyways my mistake  Taylor21  09:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It is hard to believe that considering I can't find any older version that has the stuff you added, but if you say so... VegaDark (talk) 19:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Mark Banker
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Guy Kennedy and Tommy Cade
Well, I am guessing that it is a misprint. In looking at some OSU alumni pages ( http://alumni.oregonstate.edu/eclips/carry/feb21_2003.html), Jeff Welsch's "Tale of Oregon State Sports" book, and on the College Football Data Warehouse, I am thinking that it is Kennedy. Same thing with Tommy Cade. Jeepin22 (talk) 03:20, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Here is a site with Gary Kennedy, (http://sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=nytimes&page=cfoot/teams/direct577.htm). Maybe Guy was a nickname.  Here is another with Guy Kennedy, (http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/oregonstate_database.htm). Jeepin22 (talk) 03:28, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

New Year COTW from WP:ORE
Happy New Year to all the Oregon WikiProject People. A big round of applause for everyone last year, we got a lot done. A thank you to everyone who helped with the last Collaboration of the Week, I saw a large number of articles in the unassessed section and our total number of articles is over 5000 (we were around 4000 in June when the assessment program finished the initial run) so I know at one person was busy tagging. This week we are back to a High importance Stub article the one and only max security prison, first prison, and only one with a death row in the state, the Oregon State Penitentiary. Then, by request we have one of the most prolific ballot measure sponsors in Mr. Bill Sizemore. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

McFadden
Yeah, I have tried to find anything on him and have been unsuccessful so far. I will keep looking for a little while. By the way, whomever made the OSU football media guide didn't proof read very well. They had George Schildmiller's last name spelled two different ways as well.Jeepin22 (talk) 21:04, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Bellotti v. Riley
Actually, I think Riley should not be in that template. He is not close to being the winningest coach in the programs history, as Bellotti is. If you want a Beaver, I think Ralph Miller would be a much better choice. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think either should be there too, but someone else added Bellotti. I do think Knight should be there are founder/main person behind the state's only Fortune 500 company. As to criteria, it has been subjective with people pretty much adding whomever. My personal preference would be to limit it to Top & High importance articles. Aboutmovies (talk) 20:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Oregon COTW
Howdy to WikiProject Oregon members, time for another edition of the Collaboration of the Week. As you may have already noticed, our flagship article Oregon is up for the third time as we make a push to get WP:GA status before going for WP:FA. Since this will take some time to get where it needs to be, this will be the COTW for more than just a week. Also, so we hopefully don’t trip over ourselves, try to coordinate on the article’s talk page. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here.

On another note, just a general good job/pat on the back to the project for a great 2007, the first full year of the project. We had 83 DYKs about Oregon, improved one article to FA, and went from around 4 GAs to 17 GAs. Plus numerous new articles, improvements to existing, the introduction of the COTW, and the introduction of article assessment at the project. Again, great job and here’s to a new year. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:08, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Category:Roger Rabbit characters
I was in the middle of declining the speedy delete here when we were edit-conflicted! I was checking the nominator's contributions and saw that the nominator emptied the category less than 1 hour before putting it up for speedy deletion, rather than 4 days ago. To allow time for other editors to see whether the redirecting of character articles to the main list is appropriate, I've restored the category for now - it can (and I suspect will) be deleted in 4 days' time if it's still empty. Regards, BencherliteTalk 07:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks- That's the one problem with that speedy criteria, there is no way of telling if it really has been empty for 4 days or not. I checked the user and they looked like a regular contributor so I assumed good faith that their tagging was legitimate, guess I will check recent contribs next time. VegaDark (talk) 07:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Snowy COTW from WPOR
Hello again from WP:ORE. Please note the Collaboration of the Week is running two hours late, no morning kindergarten, and routers are on snow routes. Thank you to those who helped improve Oregon, we are inching towards GA quality. This week we have another High importance Stub in our official state insect (who knew?) with the Oregon Swallowtail, and then a new article I came across, Biglow Canyon Wind Farm. Help if you can get out of the snow. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Good day! Aboutmovies (talk) 16:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

UFC 84
A discussion is happening right now on the fate of UFC 84. Because the outcome of this discussion could affect other MMA event pages and how/when they are created, your input would be greatly appreciated. The discussion is happening here. Thank you for your assistance! Gromlakh (talk) 17:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Tom Peterson says it time for Oregon COTW
Wake up! Wake up to a happy day! Says Tom Peterson. Greetings to the gang at WP:ORE, its time for another round of Collaboration of the Week. Last week was a very successful endeavor with great improvement to Oregon Swallowtail and Deuce Biglow Canyon Wind Farm. OK, so there’s no “e” but it makes me laugh. The Biglow production was so successful we got our first DYK out of it. So, let’s try for a second with the tallest building in the state, the Wells Fargo Center. Then by request we have the former governor (among other things) Neil Goldschmidt. Again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, visit here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:42, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Isaca/Ahsahka
It's really mostly a strong hunch. I wasn't able to confirm it for sure. But the only links to Isaca (other than the professional organization which makes searching really difficult) are from wikipedia and databasefootball, which self-replicate throughout the Internet forever. There doesn't appear to have ever been a place called "Isaca", and the pronounciation of "Ahsahka" would be the same, so I was bold.

I have seen dbfootball make phonetic/typographic mistakes before (for example, with Len Younce where they list his birthplace as Clayton instead of Dayton). An obit with birthplace of Carlson is what we need, but I couldn't find one that I didn't have to pay for.

I'm not dead-set on it, so do what you think is best. --Esprqii (talk) 23:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Closing UCFD discussions
Of course there are no admins available to close the discussions; they're all too busy sniveling about Category:Rouge admins to be bothered with actually doing anything useful while they're in UCFD. This is the same thing that happened in December, and I thought that my last comment to Mackensen might catch someone's eye, because we have the same situation right now (admin category up for discussion, backlog tag in place, regular admins have already participated in discussions), but it apparently didn't make much of a dent. Probably most of the admins don't even have it watchlisted; of course it will survive...  Horologium  (talk) 00:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Clown COTW
Greetings once again to members of the best encyclopedia online about Oregon (aka WP:ORE)! Last week we improved Neil Goldschmidt to close to GA level, and moved the Wells Fargo Center from Stub to Start for the Collaboration of the Week. This week we’re clowning around with some bozo from Oregon, Pinto Colvig, and then in an attempt to garner another DYK, the rather stubby Cooper Spur. As always, any contribution is appreciated, and to opt out of these messages visit here.

As we have quite a few new members over the last six months, I’ll make another pitch for our various subprojects. Listed here, you will find a variety of groups focused on specific areas of Oregon from transportation to culture. Not only can you sign up and coordinate work there, but each often has useful sources and templates related to that topic. No pressure, just an introduction to those new to the project. Adios. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians who have read the BIG HUGE FREAKING PURPLE BOX
Maybe needs revisiting now that the R. category got sorted out? ++Lar: t/c 23:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I will renominate it within the next few days. It's obvious this needs to be deleted. VegaDark (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, is this what I think it is?

 * A little while you blocked User: Parable1991 for 24 hours. Virtually, the first thing he does is to post a comment on my talk page. Not that it really bothered me - its probably some 8th grader hopped up on Code Red Dew or some such.
 * I wasn't even bothered by the freakishly inaccurate edit summaries (1, 2) of User:Dumrovii.

What stuck out were the similarities between their editing styles and methods of speaking. They don't ever edit at exactly the same time, but Dumrovii defends Parable1991 unhesitatingly, and in some pretty inaccurate ways. Am I seeing theatre? Your insight might be helpful. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  08:01, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Excuse me for asking, but if two of the socks that Parable1991 are indef banned, shouldn't the other socks be indef blocked as well? Currently, Parable is still able to post disturbing posts and edit summaries. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  21:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Depopulating categories
Hi. I have depopulated Category:Wikipedians interested in books with the exception of User:Java7837/Userboxes, which I just can't seem to give the boot. I know that the categories are transcluded from User:Java7837/archive1. I have removed the category from that page and refreshed both userpages. The archive has been removed, but the other page is still there. If you can help out with that, I'd appreciate it, because I have no idea what else to try. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah! Thanks, okay. I will remove it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:42, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Reopened discussion on Category:Wikipedians interested in books
You were part of the discussion of the ucfd of Category:Wikipedians interested in books. I have reopened the discussion. If you wish to participate in this second discussion, it can be found here. - LA @ 00:03, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Comments
Thanks for your comments. What I am saying is that you don't go to an old reproduction paintings shop and walk out of it without the shopkeeper's permission, just because the original painting is over 70 years old. Why shoud people walk to a website and grab a digital reproduction without the site owner's permission. After all the poor chap has gone into some trouble and expense to provide the digital image. The least that people can do is to ask the web owner "may I have a copy of this image on my site?" That's common decency, isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.168.225.191 (talk • contribs)

Our weekly COTW message from WPOR
Welcome to another wonderful world of WP:ORE COTW. Thanks again to those who lent a hand improving Pinto Colvig and Cooper Spur ski area this past week or so. This week we return to the High importance Stubs, with the mighty Seal of Oregon and former governor and legal superstar Sylvester Pennoyer. To opt out of these messages, or suggest an article, swing by here. Or to stop receiving any WPORE messages just remove your name from the list of members at WP:ORE. Auf Wiedersehen. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:10, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Populated deleted categories
Regarding your comments here, I think so... Trying to repeatedly empty such categories may be more trouble than it's worth, especially when there're only one or two people in the category. If the category contains many users and thus clutters up Special:Wantedcategories, perhaps they could be routinely emptied as general cleanup (e.g. "removing deleted category - Special:Wantedcategories clean up"). Black Falcon (Talk) 08:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Note
Just a quick note: Check out "RfB" at BF's talk page. - jc37 18:59, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I would consider running for bureaucrat eventually, but probably not anytime soon. Law school is very demanding and I would want to be able to devote the time necessary to do the job properly.  Recently I haven't even had the time for much RfA participation, which I would want to have a lot of experience in prior to an RfB so participants could better gauge how I might make promotion decisions. In a few years when I am out of law school, and if the need for more bureaucrats arises again, then I may throw my hat in to the mix. As for you, MS, and BF, I agree that either of you would make good bureaucrats, but as BF states on his talk page, their current lack of activity at RfA is likely to hurt their chances. I don't think our involvement of contentious UCFDs would necessarily hurt us though, as I feel almost all of them have come to a correct result that the wider-community (i.e. the vast majority of people who don't even participate at UCFD) would agree with, as shown by the usual DRV endorsements of such contentious categories. VegaDark (talk) 21:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

142.22.209.125
I've unblocked as it is a common ip for a school. I am in email conversation with the administrator of the school, but as the vandalism, which I oversighted, was rather minor, I'm unable to divulge information to him about its content. However, as it was quite minor and students at the school regularly use the ip to edit, I have unblocked it. Fred Talk 01:46, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I went back and checked the contributions and as all contributions are vandalism I have reblocked. Fred Talk 01:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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Sorority and Fraternity Categories
Thank you VegaDark. I realized that I had inappropriately recreated these after about the 10th creation. I am working the process of contesting the ruling which you referred to, currently with the Admin who made the recommendation for deletion in the first place. I'm contesting this ruling because I feel fraternity and sorority do provide for collaboration in the same way alma mater categories provide for collaboration, as opposed to the way high school categories don't. Hopefully I'll get this overruling turned, as I know in organizations where the physical locations are so spread out, the histories so poorly kept (though not always), and the membership so intimately knowledgeable about the subject matter (along with the subject matter having a great bearing on the history of the United States and the development of its leaders) - collaboration on developing and maintaining articles for these organizations is vital, and I am currently having a difficult time finding other Wikipedians who are also in my organization to help me develop my fraternity's page in a truthful and encyclopedic matter, as often it is also more difficult to do such tasks like this for organizations like these unless you are in the organization and have access to the documentation needed. Do you have any advise on how I might more effectively contest this ruling, as I've never done this before and I am having a difficult time understanding the deletion review process? Rasamassen (talk) 00:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Old Buildings and Pictures
Greetings from WP:WikiProject Oregon. Blah blah blah. This week we have our semi-annual Picture Drive and a article creation drive for the NRHP List. For the picture drive, go take a picture, or find a free use one (lots of links to gov sites above) and upload it Wikipedia. For the National Register of Historic Places, find a red link on the main Oregon list or one of the county lists at start a new article. If its more than just a stub, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK! Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

WantedCats
It's just a series of vim regex replacements - i fixed it halfway through, go ahead and remove the ones that are on there now (i just replace 22:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

User Box Categorization
Thanks for the heads up regarding the user box problem. I had grabbed that particular user box for Firefox from one master page listing the various sorts of browsers used by Wikians, so perhaps it's worth someone checking those to be certain the format is correct. I would, but I have my hands full with projects on- and off-line at the moment. Many thanks for taking the time to help. A little mollusk (talk) 23:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Chris Leben
I removed it because some fighters dont have citations right next to their record...and there is a link to their MMA record on the bottom of the page... i didn't think that an MMA record need 2 of te same citations...what do you mean revert -- Itsmacko (talk) 01:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thats really odd, I removed it because when I clicked on it, it would take me to a page that says that "this page does not exist" or something like that, and I clicked on it about 4 or 5 times... unless you fixed it... because it works now... -- Itsmacko (talk) 05:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:209.43.19.188
As this user is currently blocked I would like to un-protect the users page. Would that be acceptable to you? Jeepday (talk) 02:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Posted at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents Jeepday (talk) 03:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

uCFD
I see you nominated a category I created for deletion. It would've been nice if you'd have notified me about that. Looking through your contribs, I see that you've been neglecting to do this, especially recently. While not explicitly required, please remember that a category's creator would, after all, be the most likely to have an interest in the discussion, so again it would just be nice. Thanks.  Equazcion •✗/C • 14:11, 10 Mar 2008 (UTC)
 * As you said, it isn't required. I try to alert creators when I have the time, as a courtesy, but sometimes I forget or am too busy to do so.  In any case, editors should watchlist categories they are interested in retaining. VegaDark (talk) 22:54, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Jèrriais Wikipedia
Actually, a Jèrriais (well, pan-Norman) Wikipedia already exists, with nearly 3000 articles. The Jade Knight (talk) 04:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The inclusion of all the Norman "languages" in a single Wikipedia was somewhat controversial. It's for this reason that a logo (after all this time!) has not been selected for the Wikipedia.  In Jèrriais, Wikipedia is "Ouitchipédie".  In Continental Norman (Cotentinais), it's "Viqùipédie".  At least one article there has been translated separately into the two dialects, and virtually every article (and/or section) is marked with a tag identifying it's dialect.  I for one have trouble understanding Continental Norman (though not Dgèrnésiais).  I do not know if this is the case for native speakers, but there is a tendency within the Normannophone world to speak of Jèrriais, Dgèrnésiais, and Continental Norman ("Nouormand d'la Grand' Tèrre", as it is called in Jèrriais) as three "languages".  Certainly a case may be made to call Insular Norman a separate language from Continental Norman on several counts, though the two remain largely mutually intelligible (much like, perhaps, Danish and Norwegian).
 * The request for a Norman language Wikipedia was actually initially simply for a Jèrriais Wikipedia, and was supported unanimously except by one individual who wanted to see a pan-Norman Wikipedia. The request was changed duly, with the reasoning that while the various "dialects" may be distinct enough to be considered languages and to have their own Wikipedias, Norman speakership is small enough that it would be most effective to encourage cooperation in this regard.  The Norman Wikipedia is actually the first pan-Norman publication in existance, to my knowledge (though Jersey and the Continent have rich literary traditions going back centuries).  This decision has not been, however (like I said), without dispute, and some dislike the fact that the Norman Wikipedia to date has been dominated by two dialects (Jèrriais and Cotentinais).  The Jade Knight (talk) 02:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * One last note: The only way the Norman Wikipedia manages to survive is its efforts to treat all dialects equal.  In other words, all tags exist in all dialects where there is interest (so stub tags fit the same dialect as the rest of the article, etc.)  If the decision were to make a cat: for Norman speakers, not simply Jèrriais speakers, it would need, for the same reason that the Norman Wikipedia needs tags in all dialects, to be translated into each dialect.  So, ultimately, you'd end up with the same number of language tags here, though fewer categories.  There also might be some resistance from Jèrriais speakers who generally think of themselves as speaking "Jèrriais", not "Norman".  The Jade Knight (talk) 03:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * "Those who decided" = me. And you are clearly not deferring your judgment to me; I decided to change my Wikipedia creation request to appease one (non-Norman speaker) who voted on the issue, but mostly to try to encourage additional participation in the Wikipedia.  If you're going to defer to the individual who made this decision, you're going to need to defer to me.  The Jade Knight (talk) 03:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:Users that are weird
Now this definitely rates as one of the least useful : ) - jc37 17:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Category:Users that are weird

March 14 OR COTW
Hello again or welcome if you are new to WP:WikiProject Oregon! Last week we did a picture drive and a NRHP creation drive. It’s hard to track the picture results, but I know I saw quite a few pictures added, so great job. With NRHP we added 7 that I saw: Mitchell Recreation Area, Salem First United Methodist Church, Portland City Hall, Crater Lake Lodge, Central Library (Portland, Oregon), Watchman Lookout Station, and Alvin T. Smith House; with most now nominated for DYK’s! So great work everybody.

This week, its back to stubs with one of the largest newspapers in the state, The Register-Guard, and a request with Oregon Coast. Feel free to help with either one, and the paper article is so short a DYK should be pretty easy to get (just need 5X expansion). As always, to opt out, opt in, or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Category for deletion?
You left a message on my talk page about a category I supposedly created being nominated for deletion. Can you tell me specifically which category that is, as I can't find any that I created on the nomination list. Sf46 (talk) 01:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

n444 menu
Hello, VegaDark. I see you have deletd my userpage menu. Can you please at least give me the code from it so I can put it on userspace? Signed in Respect N o thin g  444  13:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind found it userfied —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothing444 (talk • contribs)

Re: User HTML, User CSS, User JS, User C and User asm
I've changed my personal page to use "User HTML-5", ... instead. Feel free to delete these templates as you proposed.SkyLined (talk) 14:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the templates are fine if you want to keep them on your page. It was the categories associated with them that I was concerned about. VegaDark (talk) 15:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense - I only really figured out how categories work after I created them, so I must have gotten it wrong.

Btw. It looks like many the "User *" programming/scripting language related userboxes use a wide variety of ways to create the output. Some use templates, others use hardcoded div's. The color schemes seem to vary as well. I may at some point try to consolidate all of them into a easy to use set of templates - I may have some questions about the categorization at that point, do you know enough about it to be able to answer questions I may have? (It may be a while before I get to this though).

- SkyLined (talk) 15:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

March 10, 2008 UCFD?
What's the "March 10, 2008 UCFD"? &mdash; Aldaron &bull; T/C 21:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)