User talk:Vekoler/Archive: 13 Mar 2006 - 13 May 2006

Persian people
Keep an eye on this article and make sure they don't remove the dispute tag. AucamanTalk 06:43, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Kurds in Turkey
The first Kurdish woman ever to serve in the Turkish parliament, Zana took her parliamentary oath in 1991. But when she insisted on speaking Kurdish, Turkey was outraged. She and three other lawmakers were later barred from the assembly. Then, in 1994, she was jailed for alleged ties to Kurdish separatists. Over 30,000 people died in the early 1990s, when Kurdish rebels fought for an ethnic homeland in south-eastern Turkey.

In Iran the Kurdish representatives took their oaths in Kurdish. In Iran there are Kurdish Universities. In Iran Kurds are a respected part of society and never seen as outsiders. In Iran there are Kurdish politicians and cabinet ministers. So why are you targetting Iranians (from Persians, Kurds, and Lors to Georgians, and Armenians, etc.). Iran is a multi-ethnic state and the first recognized multi-cultural empire and state even in history.

It is ironic that you named your-self "homeless (Kuridsh:helweda)" in context of a missing Kurish state, but many homeless Kurds have always been invited and taken into Iran as fellow Iranians. Don't forget or deny it. Before the rest of the world knew the story of the Kurds it was the various households of Iran, learning via Easter/Old Kurdistan in Iran, generations ago that shed tears for their ethnic kin and their struggles.

Even the founders of pan-Iranian movements were Kurds.

THE MISNINFOMRATION AND TWISTING OF FACTS BY USER:ACUMAN AND YOU IS VERY SAD AND WRONG.

69.196.139.250 19:06, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Kurd stub
Have you seen? --Mais oui! 06:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Stub_types_for_deletion

Hi hewal
Hi, I would appreciate if you edit or add information to the article Newroz. Spas, Newroz pîroz be!  D iyako Talk + 11:42, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Chunni?
Newroz piroz be!

I would like to further know on what grounds you have taken the liberty to empower yourself to change the definition of Aryan. I also want to solicit you in concerns to your qualifications as a subject expert. Do you have a formal degree or are you working on any form of post-secondary or certification in these subject areas? I will be giving an in depth testimony on Kurds and I want you to critique it as I want all editors to do so likewise. I merely ask you to be objective. I have read your work while analyzing your comments, discussions, and input. It seems to me that you are part of the Kurdish Diaspora either in the United Kingdom or North America and that you have been raised outside of Kurdistan naïve of its true nature. I could be wrong, but I believe you are most probably a refugee or the children of refugees from Western Kurdistan, most probably Turkey, but with a minute chance of Syria.

In conclusion I am taking this space to offer my mediation and intentions to you for reform of the Kurdish articles. Although I believe it will be a very minute chance that I will make everyone happy, I will try my best, but that is not my goal or objective. My objective is to form a practical, accurate, and concise Kurdish related field of articles that are neutral and factual, which they are not. Manik666 08:19, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Aucaman, Diyako, Heja helweda, Muhamed
You may want to comment on it. -- Cool CatTalk 13:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Mutual aid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hurriyya_notice_board

I have set up a notice board to give collective support to those facing racism, nationalist bigotry and group intimidation while editing articles related to Middle Eastern issues. There are a growing number of people who are coming across the same problems with the same users, but are outnumbered and over-ruled. It is plain and simple bullying. They are being turned off Wikipedia because of this behaviour. I hope that we can all support each other.

The title is "Hurriyya", which means "freedom".--Ahwaz 17:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hurriyya_notice_board

Ibn Khaldun
Keep an eye on this article. AucamanTalk 20:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Category:Kurdistan
Hey Heja! You made a comment on Talk:Kurdish Turkey that as far as I can see fits in the context of the discussion 'what articles to tag Kurdistan' on Category talk:Kurdistan. Maybe you could copy/paste or cut/paste it there? Cheers, --Hippalus 20:21, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Islamic conquest of Persia
I was just directed to some recent edits you made on this page, and I just wanted to let you know that you've been coming fairly close to violating the 3 revert rule a couple times, so I just wanted to make a friendly suggestion. In my days in wikipedia, I've never once seen an argument resolved when it's taken up in edit summaries. So, if you put something on a page and someone reverts it, you might want to try asking why and supporting your version on the talk page before anything else. --InShaneee 02:22, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Civility
Please try and keep a cool head, despite comments people may make against you. Personal attacks and disruptive comments will only escalate a situation; please keep calm and action can be taken against the other parties if necessary. Your involvement in attacking back can only satisfy trolls or anger contributors, and lead to general bad feeling. Please try and be civil. Thanks! (CJ)  Computerjoe 's talk  09:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * My apologies if this, in anyway, has offended you. I was simply reading up on you, and I read at times you are incivil. Sorry! Computerjoe 's talk 08:57, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Mazandaranis
I've actually heard that the CIA did this on purpose as to lower the number of ethnic Persians. I know it may sound weird, but for example, you'll also notice that even though Burma changed it's name to Myanmar quite awhile ago, they still use the old name there. Anyways, I think we should wait at first before making changes. I'm going to ask some other editors when they get online. Also, "Mazandaranis" only gets 397 Google hits, which makes me think that it's not that common of a term. --Khoikhoi 04:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Safavids
Usually, it's always safer to keep references to books because links usually have a lifetime of only a few years, if not less, before they are broken or moved or erased. Books however are permanent record. So it's good to have both, especially that they are not exactly the same author and source.--Zereshk 22:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Zoroastrians among Kurds
Hey, I believe you know Kurdish and Persian? well if you believe that there are no more contemporary Zoroastrian Kurds can you tell me what this guy is talking about then?

Let me know about your opinion, Kash -- - K a s h  Talk 22:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. I know a Zoroastrian Kurd through a mutual friend whom I have to talk to about this -- - K a s h  Talk 10:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)


 * You're right - I'll talk to him. --Khoikhoi 02:04, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Evidence of Compromise
H, can you please go here, and see if you feel like leaving a short comment there?; it is very important to me. ThanksZmmz 09:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Şehrîbana Kurdî
Here is an image for her article. --ManiF 04:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

It belongs to kurdishmagazin.com, you can either contact them and require permission or use it with a mention of the source, under fair use policy. --ManiF 04:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Persian people
Could you take a look at the first sentence in this section? It claims that Persians are descendants of some "Aryan tribes" migrating from Central Asia. Sounds like outdated racial theories to me. The same source (Britannica) says Persians are of mixed ancentry, but when I try to add this in people remove it. I don't think this is consistent with WP:NPOV. Could you take a look at this and leave some feedback on the talk page? Thanks, AucamanTalk 07:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Zoroaster and Kurds
Hi Heja. :) I'll have a look, would you like me to mediate the dispute? I'll promise to be neutral. &mdash;Khoikhoi 07:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

"Qualifications"
Regarding this edit: Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit, regardless of their skills or qualifications. Please show some respect to these other users and work with them to build consensus, rather than turning them down outright for reasons not valid here. --InShaneee 02:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Alright, I see what you meant. Yes, that does seem like a problem. If it continues, you might want to consider opening an RfC on the article (or maybe just on the issue of that source) to get some outside input into the mix. --InShaneee 20:06, 13 May 2006 (UTC)