User talk:Vekoler/Archive: 28 May 2006 - 12 Oct 2006

Barnstar award
Great work! And a quick note: it is generally discouraged to add an article to a category and its subcategory. For example, if you add some article to Category:Kurdish poets, you don't need to add it to Category:Kurdish people, Category:Poets, Category:People and so on. Conscious 19:32, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

User:Cool Cat/In many languages...
Thank you for the Kurdish translation -- Cat out 19:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you also provide the dialect? -- Cat out 20:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Iranian peoples
I didn't add that to the article as I agree it's racist. Ever since it became a featured article and then was put on the main page as the 1000th article, a lot of people have been coming in and arbitrarily changing it or criticizing it constantly and making changes that I frankly don't always think are accurate or fair. Lots of nationalist crap too that I and others have to keep reverting. It's a shame because I think the article won't remain a FA for long given this type of notriety and the behavior of people who think they can insert things often without any citations whatsoever. Tombseye 16:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Hêja,


 * It was apparently added by User:Mani1 after it became a featured article, but I've just undone all of his changes, as they appear to be controversial. Hope that clears things up. &mdash; Khoikhoi 17:17, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hehe, what did you think of the rest of it? BTW, I recently saw Marooned in Iraq, very good! (but sad) &mdash; Khoikhoi 17:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, that one is in Turkey, right? &mdash; Khoikhoi 18:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

OK

 * Ok, I agree with your suggestion. Look at this article : India and click on the star in the upper right corner of the article. What do you think if we nominate the Kurdish people article and Kurdistan article for good articles. They are sure among the best written and cited articles of whole of the South Asian-related articles. Jalal.

Silaw
Silaw héja, sebaret bew risteyey axir wa xistewe ser Kurdish people, wabzanim tewawi ew sheru helayey ew farsane le ser ew risteyeye ke alerjiyan pey heye, zor rune hemu care keye lay deba. Ewane xoyan zor pe zile, nabe biley kes le beramber dagirkari ewanda rawestawe. Ba yan ley beyn yan ewey ke be coreki di binusinewe. Wirya 19:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Hakan Özoğlu paper
Hi, I received your message. Yes, it would be kind if you could send a PDF copy to my e-mail address with the same username as here. cretanforever@mynet.com. Do you have Sherefname in electronic format (and in English) by the way. Regards. --Cretanforever 14:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

POV issues
Please kindly discuss your concerns on the Talk page, so that other editors also become aware of those issues. I believe we can address and resolve them in a constructive manner.Heja Helweda 20:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Negative, I do not consider myself objective enough to determine neutrality. The template requests review from a neutral and uninvolved party and should stay untill such a person stumbles upon. -- Cat out 20:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Do you know any neutral editor who is willing to help?Heja Helweda 20:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Well If I asked people I knew, there is a risk that they would lean toward my views as likely they would ask me for input. I want the review(s) to be impartial. -- Cat out 21:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Turks
Silaw On original Turks see my comments in my user discussion page. Thanks --Ali doostzadeh 22:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Why?
Why you think we should have a Syrian Kurdistan? Don't we have already one Kurdistan? Why we should divide that into several parts? If this is about a geographical area and not a certain people, then it should (or must) be redirected and merged into the Kurdistan article. Jalalarbil 23:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Kurdish title of Turtles Can Fly
I took it from IMDb thinking that since it was a Kurdish film that the title would be Kurdish. Thanks for fixing it. gren グレン 02:37, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, Heja, In my viewpoint except a small portion of Kurds in northwestern Kirmanshan, other Kurds living in that province are not Kurds rather than kurdicized Iranian tribes who lived in neighbourhood of Kurds. Ironocally these so-called semi-Kurdish tribes have been a mean of misunderstanding Kurds, so that many Iranians misunderstand them with Kurds. I belive that this should be either removed or be clarified that they are not Kurds.

Languages
Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!! Abdullah Geelah 17:29, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Please help
Hi Hêja,

Would you be able to help me out on the Ağrı Province and Mount Ararat articles? Some anon keeps deleting the fact that the Turkish word "Ağrı" comes from the Kurdish word "Agirî". Would you be able to help me find sources for this claim? The same anon also keeps labeling Abdullah Öcalan as a terrorist and the PKK as terrorist organization. Thanks. &mdash; Khoikhoi 23:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot. :) Could you do the same for Mount Ararat? &mdash; Khoikhoi 22:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Kurdistan
Sorry for reverting your edits Heja, but it was because of this edit, which was highly POV. Feel free to re-add your edits now, and always remember to check the history of a page next time. ;) &mdash; Khoikhoi 03:09, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Question
Do you know any sources that says İsmet İnönü was a Kurd? I don't think there are any, judging by the talk page... &mdash; Khoikhoi 05:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Interesting article by the way. &mdash; Khoikhoi 00:10, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

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False Map
Hi Please add your opinion here before the Kurdistan of Turkey and Iran are added to the Turkic World! --Ali doostzadeh 05:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

List of Kurdish Press
I don't want to delete the article. I want to change the title, because there were inappropriate quotes around it. I moved it to List of Kurdish Press, and you can continue to work on it there. The "List of Kurdish Press" article is a pointless redirect now, so it's been listed for deletion. (|--  UlT i MuS  03:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Reply
I've made a suggestion here. &mdash; Khoikhoi 18:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Kurds and Sumerians
Thx for the reply. However, the claim that "Kurds fought Sumerians" is deffinitly wornd, since early Iranian-speaking peoples had no contact to Sumerians. Of course, certain ancesteral groups of the Kurds - meaning the non-Aryan ancestors of the Kurds - had some contacts to Sumerians. But nowadays, Kurds are primarily classified as Iranians, related to other Iranian peoples, and as ancestors of early Iranian tribes (for example Medes). That's why early contacts to Sumerians is totally impossible.

Tājik 09:35, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

dispute
Hi, thank you for your message. The reason is quite clear, if you read all the talk/discussion pages and then check the edit summaries of these articles, you'll realize that there is no consensus on these articles. Remember the basic Wikipedia rules NPOV, Verifiability, and what wikipedia is not. These articles, unfortunately, do not reflect NPOV, for these reason i put the dispute tag on them, in order to enhance the discussion process to end up with a consensus. Please, do not remove the tags until the disputes is solved. P/s1: I do not think that it would take long time in this case, so do not worry, lets wait for the contributions of other wikipedians. P/s2: I'll tell you how my tagging history has began: I first started reading History of the Kurds article and the following links. I had an impression that these articles lack of NPOV, then i checked the talk/discussion pages and the edit histories of these articles. Cutting long story short, i realised that three or four users are trying to push their own common POV to stop the disputes,and ignoring all others rather than try to improve these articles by providing comprehensive information based on reliable references (internationally respected journals, papers, books,...). Maybe just because of my academical training, i do not agree with these kind of informal and controversial editing process which has no place in an encyclopedia. Hence, i decided to put these tags. Please read my comments on the edit histories and also on the talk/discussion pages, if any probs give me a shout. E104421 07:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, Heja, Could you please send me the article "The correlation Between Languages and Genes: The Usko-Mediterranean Peoples, Human Immunology, 62, p.1057, 2001" via e-mail? E104421 18:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi, just a comment, users should consider all other editors' comments on the discussion page, not the most recent one or the favoured one. Giving a source does not mean that the argument given is the reliable one. The sources for the articles should be internationally recognized institutions, journals, books,...,etc. as i stated above. Furthermore, especially in social sciences, topics of ongoing research are most of the time disputed. For this reason, it better to keep calm behaviour all the time and not to react so fast about the recent changes, see Resolving_disputes. E104421 19:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

the article
Dear Heja, i sent you an e-mail for you to send me the paper related with the genetics origins... Did you ever got my e-mail? i'm very curious about that article. i shall greatly appreciate if you would be kind enough to send it via e-mail? Cheers E104421 18:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)