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Fancruft song articles
This guy User talk:Ayush Gupta At Wikipedia creates fancruft song articles which are not even rewuired. Because Indian songs are no Chart toppers or Billboard hits. They hardly sell. They are used in films and have zero information regarding their production. This guy has already reverted my edit twice. The name of the song (Deewani Mastani Song) is not even accurate. Plus it was deleted a while ago. And, then the fancruft articles like these List of Urdu songs recorded by Shreya Ghoshal and several others. I mean even Adele doesn't have songs her song articles categotised like Adle's no 1 hits, no 2 hits, blah blah blah..... I don't know how to handle this guy or the situation. Please look at it. Krish |  Talk  09:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like he himself has redirected the page. As for list of songs, we have plenty of such lists. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:44, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
 * He moved the contents to Deewani Mastani. That article was redirected by someone who redirected lots of song articles including this one. But this user creates articles even for songs like Nanga Punga Dost. Really? Coming to that category, yes we have lots of them. They are not divided by language. Shakira and JLO have recorded songs in English as well as their native language, but I don’t see an article called List of English Songs recorded by Shakira. Do you? According to him, everything is about Shreya Ghoshal only. Plus, check my talk page history, you will see abusive language and threats. Krish |  Talk
 * For a song to have an article on its own it should pass WP:NSONG. Coming to list of songs recorded by a singer in particular language, it's fine to have such lists as long as they don't violate WP:CFORK. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:55, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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S. S. Rajendran
Different groups of his family members are fighting it out in the article. I've protected it but someone with better Tamil film knowledge is required to source and clean up the article, can you take a look? &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  05:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * IIRC, the same thing happened with T. M. Soundararajan's article sometime back. I'm likely to remain inactive till Sunday. I'll see if I can do something later on. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 03:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

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Source for BO reports
What kind of source do you take for BO reports? Neenga Tamil Thane? I have given a source for Kabali BO on kabali talk page, Do not mistake me you have taken the same website, new, media source for other movies but why not for Kabali?

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kabali-7-days-box-office-collection-rajinikanths-film-ends-high-note-first-week-688236#Jpg3iaS1KVCv5rTB.97

This is a reliable source please check it. They are the same one who calculated the BO result of Thani Oruvan and even wikipedia has updated that article. So try this source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.75.82.89 (talk) 07:25, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The source quotes Dhanu. Given that he's the producer of the film, we cannot take his claim into account as it borders WP:PRIMARY. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:55, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Mathar Kula Manickam
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:26, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * [aaCra Archived page]. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Kabali
Hi Vensatry. Really long time. In the wake of Rajinikanth's FLC, i want to know whether you watched Kabali? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Nope. :( Will watch it this week. I'm guessing that you might have seen the film. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:13, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I did. No spoilers, but please don't expect the electrifying teaser to be a true reflection of this film. What a restrained performance by Rajinikanth, his eyes do the talking most of the times. The scene where he hallucinates his wife everywhere and then takes the truth in his stride—Where this actor has been? What a subtle yet moving act! Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:23, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been closely following the reviews (friends, Facebook critics, paid reviewers, et al.,). I'm not disappointed because, I expected the film to be of this kind. Have you seen Madras? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:37, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I did. I liked the way he used a wall as a metaphor for the bones of contention between two warring ideologies. Realistic film, though someone more actually rustic than Catherine would've been a good choice for the female lead. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought she was a good choice (but yes, not the 'perfect' one). But mind you, Karthi was the hero. :) &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:46, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I felt like that because as Madras was raw and real. Despite its flaws, it remains the best of Ranjith and Santhosh IMHO. Kabali did have a good score throughout but Ranjith actually scores in parts. :P Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:09, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * A lot of people feel Attakathi>Madras>Kabali. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:56, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

I respect that. I am happy that Kabali is not another Lingaa. I read that Rajinikanth's liking for Nayakan was one of the reasons he agreed to act in Kabali. The staged ending does resemble that film, but did look out of place as well. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

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Peer review/Andha Naal/archive1
And so it begins... Kailash29792 (talk) 12:52, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

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Rajinikanth
If properly cropped/removed watermark, this and this from Bollywood Hungama may fit the bill for the FLC. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 04:26, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks but these vertical images will bloat the lead. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 05:19, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Andha Naal
I have expanded the article to an extent larger than it was at GA level, even at the cost of Dhananjayan's books. Do you find it good enough for FAC yet? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:18, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * At 16.5k chars, it's much shorter than Chandralekha and Mayabazar. Before proceeding to the FAC, it's good to have the production section expanded and something about the box-office performance. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 06:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think you should also be the nominator, considering you made it GA. And once I manage to acquire this book, in which the author has written about the film in great detail, I think it will be more FAC worthy. Besides, do you find anything useful from this 1954 source (Page 1 and Page 2)? Kailash29792 (talk) 06:55, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * How dare you ask me? *just kidding* You want me to translate the stuff? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 06:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Here's another useful source. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The information given by Legends of Indian Silver Screen seems redundant since the info has already been added from different sources, and the page numbers are not marked either. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * All the pages so far from Pillai's book. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. Be careful about close-paraphrasing while adding text from the source. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:58, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * What I am telling you, the will-be-co-nominator is, now that you have pages from the book, you could make necessary changes to the article that I never could. Kailash29792 (talk) 15:39, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll be out of station for a week, starting from today. Please settle any PR issues with Andha Naal until I return. Also, do please notify Redtiger to see if his comments have been resolved. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:49, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Sure. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 05:52, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Unwritten rule?
From when did Wikipedia start believing in unwritten rules? If it ain't written, it ain't a rule. TV shows, as with films, are deemed notable when principal photography begins. And most definitely the ones that have already been given a series order by a major channel. -- Krimuk | 90 ( talk ) 06:37, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I meant this essay. Your assumption is not true because WP:NF doesn't talk about television. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 06:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Umm... that's exactly what I said. This is not a television pilot that is yet to be picked up for series. It has already been given a full season order AND is filming. So it does meet the requirements, per that essay you cite. -- Krimuk | 90 ( talk ) 06:46, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It says, in most cases, a television series is not eligible for an article until its scheduling as an ongoing series has been formally confirmed by a television network. I'd be happy to include when it goes on air. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

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 * So, you wanna participate in it? Its ok if you don't want to expand an article (you can review them if you wish to). Just your support is fine. —  Ssven2  Speak 2 me 06:19, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Peer review
Hello Vensatry. If you have time, could you look at the article Battle of the Bastards (Season 6, episode 9 of Game of Thrones(SPOILER ALERT) . I would appreciate it if you could say what needs to be done to make this a Featured article. thanks in advance. AffeL (talk) 11:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid this isn't my area of expertise. I'd suggest you to seek help from writers who've written similar articles; User:Jaguar might be helpful. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 10:56, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK for M. Manikandan
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FLC review request
Hi. Hope you're well. I was wondering if you'd be up for a reviewing another filmography I nominated back in September, Michael Fassbender filmography. Cowlibob (talk) 10:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)?

Template:Did you know nominations/New London Union Station
Vensatry, the nominator has replied to your review by suggesting an ALT hook; unfortunately, the ping to you asking for your opinion of the hook wouldn't have registered because the post wasn't signed, so I'm doing a manual ping with this post. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:37, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kaadu (1973 Kannada film)
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Ok add mouni Roy marriage date next yearThanks
Ok add mouni Roy marriage date next yearThanks Bigg boss 10 (talk) 03:00, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Nenjathai Killadhe
Do you think the 1980 film of the same name should be retitled to simply "Nenjathai Killathe", bordering on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC? I feel so, as the other works under that title don't look so notable. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:25, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess so. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 18:07, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

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Regarding Boney Kapoor's article
Hey Vensatry, Raghav here, I just wanted you to please improve Boney Kapoor's article and make his article reach Fa i cannot edit right now because it is semi protected but you can. Please see his date of birth in article has verified source also please make actor Ranvir Shorey's article to Fa his article also need additional citations. Please see and edit Sushant Singh Rajput and Arjun Kapoor's article to Fa. Regards, Raghav Chaturvedi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.158.190 (talk) 06:31, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate your enthusiasm in seeing many Bollywood personalities reach FA status, just know it is not something that can easily be reached as it requires time and work. Moreover, Vensatry is already committed to making Rajinikanth filmography a FL (featured list) Kailash29792 (talk) 08:18, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also Raghav, you can create your own account (by creating your user page and user talk page. Its quite easy to register) and undertake these endeavours yourself. We can help you if you like. —  Ssven2  Speak 2 me 10:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Hey Ssven2, thanks for your kind appreciation as mentioned in Kailash29792's talk page i will join wikipedia after my december 2016 engineering exams till then if you want then you take the above mentioned articles to Fa you are most welcomed otherwise Thank you. Tc. Regards, Raghav Chaturvedi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.245.146.114 (talk) 10:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

The 1000 Challenge for Indian cinema
Based on The 10,000 Challenge and within the scope of WikiProject India, a new challenge has been initiated to reach a long-term goal of 1000 article improvements and creations for Indian cinema. Article cleanup and basic referencing improvements, expansions, new articles, DYKs, Good Articles, Featured Articles etc, are all welcome. You and others are invited to participate in this challenge and help Indian cinema in any possible way. If interested, please signup here. Yours truly, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 03:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Eega/archive2
After withdrawal and subsequent copy-edit(s), i have reopened a FAC for Eega a week ago. If interested, please do consider reviewing the candidate when you are free. All constructive comments are welcomed. Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 13:00, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Let me see if I can review it over the weekend. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 10:53, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
 * A gentle reminder! :) Pavanjandhyala (talk) 04:39, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Been a bit busy with Idlis, Vadas and Dosas. Will do it by the weekend! &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 07:57, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * God luck with them. Some look very natural. :) Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:02, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Because they're homemade! &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:07, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Actual relief from the Photoshop-ed ones we see. Were any of them made in your household? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:01, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Nope. My mom isn't a great cook. :) They are from Flickr. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:26, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Finding free images in Flickr has become a mess. Impressive work indeed! :) Well, anything else to say at the FAC? Pavanjandhyala (talk) 16:34, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Convincing the users is even more difficult. In this case, the lady is kind enough to release all her images under a commons-compatible license. :) As for the FAC, I'll post my follow-up comments shortly after reading the article in full. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 17:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Would you consider revisiting the candidate once again? Two weeks have passed since your last comment. Not trying to bother you, but am concerned about it. Regards, Pavanjandhyala (talk) 02:42, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

I did it. Eega became a FA! :-D Pavanjandhyala (talk) 14:59, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Congrats! &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 14:58, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks bro! Strangely, it happened when the nation was talking about Rajamouli for a different reason though. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 17:01, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * What next, Baahubali? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 17:34, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * A big NO. Not even game for a GA. Currently, my FLC is happening and a future GAN is being c/ed. If possible, after completing these two, i plan to work on KB's Rudraveena. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 02:16, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Shriya Saran filmography
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 * Archived page &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 13:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Kaadu (1973 Kannada film)
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 * Archived page &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 08:15, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Great work! Happy Diwali!♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:43, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:44, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Say something about Run (2002 film)
@Vensatry, see Run, say, is this film's Telugu version should have another extra page like Aakali Rajyam ?  a. haylesh  (message) (contributions)   17:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, not all bilingual films deserve to be multiple distinct articles if they have mostly the same cast. E.g.: Eega and Naan Ee share the same article due to minimal differences, while Raavan and Raavanan have major differences. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:25, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * In the case of Run, it's clearly stated that the Telugu version is a dubbed one with only the portions involving Vivek being separately shot. I repeat, AR is not a dubbed one but a simultaneously shot version. Kailash29792, so are Aaytha Ezhuthu and Yuva. It purely depends upon the coverage that each of the versions get. In this case, Kamal's FF award warrants the film to have a standalone article. Just because these films belong to the pre-internet era, it doesn't mean we shouldn't have separate articles. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 18:08, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

@Vensatry, I think the pages of Zara Si Zindagi, Varumayin Niram Sivappu and Aakali Rajyam should be repaired because in these three pages 'Aakali Rajyam' has been mentioned as dubbed. And I request you to watch Varumayin Niram Sivappu, please mention if scenes are same or different between this and 'Aakali Rajyam', though Kamal Haasan character's father is different, Kamal's Telugu voice is original, But I am not going to edit those articles again, it's your or Kailash's duty. Aishte haylesh (message/my works) 02:00, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Zara Si Zindagi? That's the Hindi remake released three years after the original with a totally different cast and crew. Kamal dubs for himself in all languages; dubbed versions are an exception though (SPB is his voice in Tamil-Telugu dubbed ones). &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 05:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Vensatry, I urge you to watch Varumayin Niram Sivappu in YouTube. আইশ্টে হায়লেশ (talk) 09:34, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * But why? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:36, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Vensatry, t know the similarity. আইশ্টে হায়লেশ (talk) 09:38, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you want me to do it? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:40, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Vensatry, because I am a non-Tamil, you are a Tamilian and expert about Tamil films. আইশ্টে হায়লেশ (talk) 09:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Man, we are not going to gain anything out of it. We need reliable sources. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:43, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

@Vensatry, okay, I am not disturbing you again. I will forget these things. Sorry. Aishte haylesh (talk/my edits) 09:46, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Bhaktha Sri Thyagaraja
I have expanded the article a bit further. Could you please see if it fits the DYK criteria? Kailash29792 (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, not. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 14:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, this was nominated already? I'm sure it'll pass now. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 15:16, 18 November 2016 (UTC)