User talk:Vensatry/Archive 4

The Signpost: 19 September 2011
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Bodyguard
Hi. This User:Scieberking doesn't accept the fact that south Indian film industry has produced two of the highest grossing Indian films. Please put forward your support in his talk page or at Reliable sources/Noticeboard.  Secret of success  Talk to me  12:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Avana Ivan
Hello! Your submission of Avana Ivan at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gamaliel (talk) 05:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Mani Ratnam
Looks like you have been working on the article, found this decent write-up from the Indian Express (1995) which you may want to use when talking about his style of film-making. Editor 2050 (talk) 14:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Also this rare interview from 1998. Editor 2050 (talk) 15:00, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Re:DYK
The tick means it is ready. It just hasn't been moved to prep yet. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 September 2011
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DYK for Avana Ivan
Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

sortability
Can you please cut me some slack here? The style guide only says "The notes field should not be allowed to get overly cluttered." Not that it cannot be sortable. It makes more sense to have the notes sortable than the role name, for example. What is the big deal?!? BollyJeff ||  talk  23:57, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a lot for the barnstar :) I appreciate. Long way to go for NFAs till I reach 52nd NFA article. Thanks. -  Vivvt Talk 14:39, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Taran Adarsh
Hi. Please express your thoughts here, on whether dubicious ratings by a so-called critic are acceptable in Wp.  Secret of success  Talk to me  17:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
The Enforcer Office of the secret service 01:53, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:FILM September 2011 Newsletter
The September 2011 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. —Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 16:47, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dakshayagnam (1938 film)
Hello! Your submission of Dakshayagnam (1938 film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 17:03, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Rockstar (film)
Page was moved by Madvirgin potentially a vandalized one. Please discuss here. Karthik Nadar (talk) 16:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Lod Labackdass
Remember "Neenga verum dasaa illa lord labackdassaa" joke?? :) Any idea which film was that from? I want to add to N. Mathrubootham's filmography.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 02:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * No, I don't think so. Vivek appears as a medical college student and the son of an MLA; I remember well that Prabhu Deva was in the lead. In Shah Jahan, Vijay played the lead role.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 04:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * its from Pennin Manathai Thottu--Sodabottle (talk) 14:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Superstar's film
Hi. I know you consider Behindwoods as an unreliable source, but according to a report they have released, Rana has been dropped due to various reasons. I have no idea why after so much speculation and planning, they decided this as the outcome. Morever, wiki doesn't permit dropped film articles, so I suggest we nominate it for deletion.  Secret of success  Talk to me  12:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not exactly. Behindwoods has indeed received coverage from a notable newspaper, which makes the site follow the notability (web) policy. I could even re-create the article using the link, adding the info.  Secret of success  Talk to me  15:10, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There's no need for such a harsh tone. I just wanted your opinion on whether a stub article on Behindwoods would reap or not. Regarding Rana, I agree that it is a rumour. Earlier, there was speculation in the months of May and June that it had been dropped, but the producers intervened and clarified it, says Oneindia, which by all means is a reliable source.  Secret of success  Talk to me  18:19, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not questioning the reliability of the Hindu, nor am I saying Behindwoods is 100% correct. If you feel you need official sources, then by all means wait. And please add a source for the dubbed version in Telugu before reverting.  Secret of success  Talk to me  10:11, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 3 October 2011
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DYK for Dakshayagnam (1938 film)
The DYK project (nominate) 12:52, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Oh, the rollback feature doesn't allow summaries and is used to clean up vandals only. And I had hit that button by mistake without even checking any comment. But the IP's edits were vandals, I agree.  Secret of success  Talk to me  12:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 10 October 2011
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2011 WikiProject Film coordinator election
Voting for WikiProject Film's October 2011 project coordinator election has started. We are aiming to select five coordinators to serve for the next year; please take a moment from editing to vote here by October 29! Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 12:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Hyderabad
The sister cities of Hyderabad, India mentioned in the page count up to 16, notably the highest for an Indian city as far as I know. Out of those, 6 (Orlando, Munich, Taipei, Bloemfontein, Medellín and Osaka) are supported by a site called newsofap.com and all the 6 are not at all mentioned in the official site of the city or in the wiki article, except for Munich which is mentioned without a source. I wish to challenge that information and remove it if no third-party source can be found, and tried to do so in the talk page without any results. hence I would appreciate it if you can help me with this, by proving that newsofap.com is not an RS and doesn't follow the Wp:WEB guideline either. Thank you!  Secret of success  Talk to me  08:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please mention where the source has already been dismissed. I have raised the issue. If you want, discuss WP:RSN. Cheers!  Secret of success  Talk to me  07:26, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The source has been declared as an unreliable one. Please state your support at WP:RSN.  Secret of success  Talk to me  13:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thalapathi trivia
Hi, it's true that I added trivia to the thalapathi article and they don't have any source. But the facts in it were true and sorry, I'm not good at adding sources or citations (what is the difference between those two?).

Here are some reliable sources:
 * http://www.southdreamz.com/portfolio/mani-ratnam/ (see the awards mani ratnam won)
 * http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100308210833AAQ2thC (see why ilayaraja and mani split)

Ok pls add in watever u feel is best, but I'd only like people to know that it was mani's last film with ilayaraja... Kailash29792 (talk) 12:28, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Velayudham
Please state your opinions here, on whether the sources given for a specific section "controversy" are good enough.  Secret of success  Talk to me  16:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Tiruchirappalli
Hey, what happened? Have you given up our goal to take Trichy article to FA? :-) I'm working on a new section on "Architecture" which might, probably, be essential. In the meantime, it would be great if you can get some good photos of Trichy. It will nice you can snap some 30 or 40 photos of places and monuments (preferrably using a digital camera). We'll have the best ones in Tiruchi article. The rest will go to the article on the respective place or monument. Or you might also request some professional photographer to provide some pictures (provided, the person is willing to release his images copyright-free). Some of the images in Tiruchi article are really good, but it is unfortunate that their copyright status is doubtful as no metadata is available. While as per WP:AGF we must, indeed, allow those images to remain here, those pics might positively obstruct a successful WP:FAN. I am listing some of the good-quality images here. It will be great if you can snap photos of these places/monuments from the same angle and position and upload them to commons.

Additionally, we might require an 180 degree high-quality panoramic image of Tiruchi city, possibly snapped from the top of the Rockfort- Ravi My Tea Kadai 04:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, it's a bit early. But we've a lot of things to do - peer review and all. We'd better start now, else the article would be languishing in its current state forever. Anyway, there have been FAs which have been written in a matter of weeks. User:Rama's Arrow had started an article and taken it to an FA in 10 days. Marojejy National Park, today's featured article was written, improved and successfully nominated for an FAN in 3 or 4 months.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 09:00, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, of course. I've prepared some text here. Your opinion and suggestions are very much welcome. If you wish to add any content, such as a new section of something like that, you can very well prepare it in your sandbox. I simply don't suggest that you make instantaneous changes to the article as it would spoil the flow.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 12:46, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I had already told you not to make drastic edits to the article but from this, it appears that you had not heeded my warning. Can you please explain why you replaced "id" with "isbn" everywhere? What difference does it make to the article? Now, for citations which had two or more isbn numbers, you had un-uniformly used "id" as well as "isbn". And why did you leave the comma at the end? If you can bother to check the article, you might notice that the replacement of "id" with "isbn" has resulted in full-stops being added after the first ISBN number. This might most probably be questioned at WP:FAN. Anyway, I leave it to you to clean up the mess.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 04:26, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * That's okay. I'll fix it. No probs :-)- Ravi My Tea Kadai 09:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Template:Did you know nominations/List of international cricket centuries by V. V. S. Laxman
The number of DYK nominations with image suggestions usually exceeds the number of available image slots, often by a factor of 2x to 4x. Consequently, many such nominations are promoted without the image. As to your nomination specifically, there was no specific reason but there were several factors influencing my decision not to use the image. DYK tries to present visually different images. Portraits of individuals are common suggestions making them less likely to be selected, particularity if there is nothing visually striking or different from other portrait suggestions made around the same date. Many experienced set composers also like to place longer and well developed articles in the image slot to reward the extra effort needed to develop such articles and because they are often better examples of the type of article Wikipedia wishes to encourage editors to create.

I personally understand the frustration of not having an image suggestion selected as it usually takes me between 10 to 12 nominations to land one hook in the image slot. --Allen3 talk 20:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: 2011 Provisional population
Hi Vensatry, I am busy with another bot project at the moment. I will take a look at 2011 census updates when I get a chance (if others have not done so already). — Ganeshk  ( talk ) 03:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for List of international cricket centuries by V. V. S. Laxman
Orlady (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, congratulations. I got a DYK today too; my first one! BollyJeff  ||  talk  12:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Chennai
Or is it மதராஸ்? Well, neither Chennai nor Madras are Tamil words. You might spell them whichever way you like. Else, you can do one thing. You can make a Google Search for the same in Tamil and add the one which yields the biggest number of hits.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 16:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Filmfare Awards South
Hi, I have that filmfare copy with me..that is the evidence..nothing more.. Rajeshbieee (talk) 18:48, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Whats the need Venkt? Are you suspecting its credibility? It has 3-4 pages as well.

Rajeshbieee (talk) 02:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Re. Filmfare
Well, if that page says so, what can we do? I guess, it is true. I'm not sure, but I think the awards were indeed given before 1972 as well, at least in Telugu, and it was extended in 1972 to other languages. Johannes003 (talk) 09:17, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I second that! Looks unlikely that only a Best Film award was given for nearly 20 years. Johannes003 (talk) 10:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That site actually looks good for me, quite professional, well formatted and organized. And everything else is correct only, isn't it? Then add MGR's name, too. Unless some source can prove the opposite, I don't have any objection. Johannes003 (talk) 12:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tiruchirappalli
Provisional population data, as the name itself implies, are not the final calculations. And then, the pdf file you gave does not have any details on the area of the city. If we have the provisional population figures for 2011 and the area stats based on 2001 data, it would look a bit odd. So, lets wait for the census data of the 2011 census to be officially announced. I guess by early 2012 they might be public.- Ravi My Tea Kadai 12:47, 22 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Sources are needed to support the claim that the area of Tiruchi in 2011 is the same as in 2001. The source present in the article pertains to the 2001 census.- Ravi <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My Tea Kadai 02:53, 24 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, the point it, Wikipedia relies more on sources than your word or my word. And the source given for Trichy's area is from a 2003 book and hence, obviously, based on the 2001 census. Just because Thiruverumbur and Pappankurichi were not added to the MCorp, it does not imply automatically that the city could not have expanded. Even if there has not been any expansion, speculating upon it based on the reason you gave would amount to a violation of WP:SYNTH.- Ravi <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My Tea Kadai 18:24, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

What is your take on Indian awards?
Like this one, for instance? :)

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Talkback
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Re: Kumbakonam bridge
The Cauvery probably appears narrower because it was taken from a distance. Even then, the river is not so wide as it is between Srirangam Island and Tollgate. :-)- Ravi <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My Tea Kadai 18:19, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Karthi
If no free image is available, the that is not a problem for GAN. GA%3F says "The presence of images is not, in itself, a requirement. However, if images (or other media) with acceptable copyright status are appropriate and readily available, then some such images should be provided."-- Redtigerxyz Talk 05:41, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:Leelavathi (actress)
Receiving National Award for the First Time

National awards (Certificate of Merit for Best Regional Actress)[citation needed] Sources say that she won a national award for best actress. I request you to cite your sources as you say it's (Certificate of Merit for Best Regional Actress). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contribut (talk • contribs) 09:20, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

EVP
Hey, thanks for the source. Could you also add the soundtrack and the widespread popularity of "Naan Anai Ittal" in the article?  Secret of success  Talk to me  09:28, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No problems in adding that. Just wanted to ask, if you can find sources why can't you do that. -- Commander (Ping Me) 18:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, the problem is I hardly get the templates correct without making the page go haywire. But I'll try adding it, nevertheless. ;)  Secret of success  Talk to me  13:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:Leelavathi (actress)
Since it's clear in the website that she won a National Award for Best Actress (and not for Best Regional Actress) and i'm quite sure about it, i'll be undoing the change you've made, and would be replacing it by Rashtrapati Award. That should be Okay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Contribut (talk • contribs) 16:17, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Dude, I asked you to check with the link for National Film Award for Best Actress. Do you have any official sources for your claim. I'm very sure that she did not win any National Award for acting. Its just a president's award (Rashtrapathi) award. Besides, you should stop uploading copyrighted images. -- Commander (Ping Me) 07:09, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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Temples
Congratulations on crossing 10000! :-) Can you create articles on some temples in Trichy based on this website for adding them to Template:Tiruchirappalli. The website lists all temples in Tiruchirappalli district that I'm unable to make out which of these are located within Trichy urban agglomeration. Also, please ensure that there are enough reliable sources on the particular temple before creating the article.- Ravi <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My Tea Kadai 15:58, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Reassess
Can you please reassess Ra.One please. Article is quite strong with proper coverage and accurate now. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * But in WikiProject Film scope, it is stated that the "article has been rated as C-Class on the project's quality scale." -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 07:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

City templates
Can you please give your opinion here? P. S. I had, specifically, used the Wikiproject Tamil Nadu discussion page and not the Wikipedia India page as I wish to make Wikiproject Tamil Nadu more active.- Ravi <sub style="color:red; font-family:Monotype Corsiva;">My Tea Kadai 16:31, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied there. -- Commander (Ping Me) 17:03, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Sock
I reported a sock at Wp:Sockpuppet investigations/Padmalakshmisx recently and the user, Chmanideepreddy seems to be a similar case. What do you think? Is it better to report him? Please put forward your opinion. And oh, saw your user page, congrats on crossing 10000 edits! :D  Secret of success  Talk to me  11:28, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:FILM October 2011 Newsletter
The October 2011 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. —Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 15:10, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Stories Project
Hello,

My name is Victor Grigas, and I'm a storyteller at the Wikimedia foundation. We're telling stories of Wikipedia users, editors, donors, programmers and staff to paint a picture of who uses Wikipedia - for the 2011 fundraiser.

I am in the process of planning a trip to India to gather stories from Indian Wikipedians in face-to-face interviews (possibly on video).

My primary goal is to conduct 15-20 interviews, and hopefully enough of my interviews will make compelling stories that will effectively solicit donations from the public. These stories may also be used for other communication purposes by the foundation.

I found your userpage on a list of prolific Wikipedians and thought I’d reach out to you. Prolific editing is always a good story to tell!

If you are interested in participating, please contact me via my email:

vgrigas@wikimedia.org

Thank you for your time!

Victor

About me: I have been a Wikipedia editor since 2005, and have a background in film, video and audio. My userpage can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victorgrigas

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Chennai
Hey, the Chennai article doesn't have many months left for the FA review. I have currently been working on the section "Media" and I believe I have a better version of it. I believe this link would also be useful. Another sentence which I removed from the culture section was "A. R. Rahman took Chennai to international fame by winning two Oscars, twoGrammy Awards in 2009 for the movie Slumdog Millionaire" Is that really needed? Doesn't seem valid. What do you think? Please give your feedback.  Secret of success  Talk to me  12:45, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

The first printing press in Chennai was established in 1712 by Danish Missionaries who printed a book titled ‘’Damulian Tongue’’. The Diocesan Press, established in 1761 by the Society for the Propagation of Christian Knowledge (SPCK), is the oldest existing press in the city in the name of CLS press. The city saw its first newspaper in 1785, with the start of the Madras Courier by the British. Six years later, the Hurkaru was launched. Two newspapers, Madras Gazette and India Herald were established a decade later. The Swadesamitran was the first Tamil newspaper started in Chennai, and The Dinakaran was the first Tamil daily in the country expanding circulation to over 12 cities. The Hindu, the second largest circulated English daily in the country, is headquartered in Chennai and was established in 1878 by G. Subramaniam Iyer and became a tri-weekly and a daily in 1883 and 1889 respectively.

Chennai is the second largest entertainment industry center in the country after Mumbai, as of 2007. The first instance of a radio broadcast in Chennai was seen in 1924 when the Madras Presidency Radio Club was established and started transmission in the city. In 1966, the University of the AIR programme started its process in Chennai. The first private FM station was launched in Chennai in 1977. In 2004, the first campus radio station in the country was started at the Anna University in the city. Today, the city has more than 11 radio stations functioning within it.

The first Television centre was inaugurated in Chennai in 1975 and the Chennai Doordarshan was introduced in 1988 proceeding to be renamed as Podhigai. The technology of Cable TV was introduced in the 1990’s with small operators who had a base in various parts of the city. The first corporate channel to commence its transmission was the Hathway cable. Eventually, the Chennai cable market was dominated by two companies, Hathway and Sumangali cable.


 * Oh, thanks a lot. One more thing, could you state your views on the Ra.One talk page on whether budget and gross should be mentioned in the infobox, as it would not comply with the Enthiran article.  Secret of success  Talk to me  13:14, 1 November 2011 (UTC)