User talk:Verbchorusverb

September 2010
Welcome and thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test on the page Calgary municipal election, 2010 worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the sandbox instead. Thank you. 117Avenue (talk) 02:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi 117Avenue, I am curious as to the rationale behind your revisions on this page. You undid my previous (before I started this profile - I'm trying to be a neutral, legitimate contributor, not a political hack) inclusion of a simple internal link for Naheed Nenshi.  I added the link after noting the list of candidates and seeing embedded hyperlinks for only some of the higher-profile candidates - there doesn't seem to be a good reason not to link to an existing wikipedia page.  I looked at the article again and saw that it was flagged for deletion for not being properly referenced and appearing autobiographical in nature.


 * As a Calgarian, I can attest that the general biographical information is in the public domain. In particular, the link to the Mount Royal bio should be sufficient to independently establish much of the content, but maybe I can help to contribute other third party references for that page.  I took a look at the other candidate links that you felt not proper to delete, and I found those not too dissimilar in "proper" references to the Nenshi page.  In particular, the Jon Lord page has one broken (also non third-party) link and one non third party link to a current campaign page that is misattributed as a "former constituency page".  I am new(ish) to Wikipedia editing, so I don't know the protocol for marking a page for deletion, but if editing is to be fair and neutral, then the Lord page would have to be either properly referenced or marked for deletion just as the Nenshi page has, and the link from the Calgary municipal elections 2010 page should be given the same treatment as the Nenshi link.  That is why I deleted the internal link for Jon Lord.  To keep the Calgary municipal election 2010 article as fair and neutral as possible, it is not right to unduly give voice to any candidate's campaign material and/or unduly stifle access to independently verifiable information. Cheers. Verbchorusverb (talk) 03:53, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem I have with the Nenshi article is not the references, but the notability of the person. Wikipedia has very strict policies on the notability of living people, so that not everyone writes a biography on themselves. All the candidates linked to on the election article have already established themselves, and have content to be written about, Nenshi hasn't done anything. There are also policies against advertisement, and promotion, which is how this article is written. 117Avenue (talk) 05:07, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Before the mayoral campaign began, I would have agreed with you on that, but Nenshi has definitely become prominent in the news here through two high profile news items - (1) having the front windows of his campaign headquarters smashed in, suspected to be because of his religion, and (2) his well-covered comments on policing costs in Calgary, which brought public reaction from the city's police chief. Both items also featured in the national media, here and here respectively.  Would you be averse to me adding any of this info to the Nenshi page?  Cheers. Verbchorusverb (talk) 05:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)