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Speedy deletion nomination of Ira Tiffen


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Ira Tiffen requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Christian75 (talk) 14:07, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ira Tiffen


A tag has been placed on Ira Tiffen requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Melcous (talk) 00:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Hello, I'm Dcirovic. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Ira Tiffen— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Dcirovic (talk) 17:34, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit to Actinus
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Actinus, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! –Compassionate727 (T·C) 20:09, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Ira Tiffen
Hi, the sources have not yet got to the required standard. We need to have independent, reliable, substantial sources. So far nearly every source there is connected to the subject. The only reliable independent one is a one liner from Columbia College. There should be a better reference than IMDB for the academy award. We don't count IMDB as reliable as anyone can edit this. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:30, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

The last references does not work, as it seems that the url was temporary. The next step you should do is to add the reference tags to the sentences in the article so that you get the clickable number linking to the foot notes. You use inserted after the sentence to show where the information for the sentence came from. see WP:Referencing for beginners. Is there any independent reference for the emmy award? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:47, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There is no need to delete the text about the Emmy Award, as it is verified. But if you could find an independent source, it would help show notability. It is something that would very likely be published elsewhere (if it is true). At the moment we only have a small amount of text from sources used for WP:N, so the article still may not survive an WP:AFD - delete discussion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:29, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Declined speedy deletes
I have declined 3 speedy deletion nominations you made. Please go back and read the criterion. You had nominated all three of them as A1. All three of them had enough content to understand what the article was about. -- GB fan 11:20, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Okay. I put a few as missing information, which they were. Adotchar (talk) 12:24, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The articles may have been missing information, but that is not a reason to delete them. You need to make sure when you tag an article for speedy deletion it actually meets the criterion. -- GB fan 12:55, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I put a few as missing information, not delete. Only 3 were speedy deletion, and they were seemingly useless. Adotchar (talk) 14:24, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Ira Tiffen image
Please do not upload it again. It is from a copyrighted site. Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:11, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * It's a picture taken by Ira Tiffen, uploaded to his own LinkedIn page by himself, who I am currently sitting with, viewing his page. If you want, I can get a very similar image that's not on LinkedIn, but it wont be as good. Adotchar (talk) 22:13, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * First, Mr. Tiffen would need to send in permission. Second, why not take a pic with your smartphone and upload it? Third, are you working for Tiffen? Are you being paid to edit his article? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:18, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm not being paid to edit his article or being paid to do anything, for that matter. I'm not working for him, either. I'll get another picture and upload it later.
 * Okay. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:26, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Actually, is it okay if I have Ira Tiffen's LinkedIn page state on it somewhere that it is permitted for the picture to be used on wikipedia? Adotchar (talk) 22:55, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I do not know. Consider checking the bottom links at that site regarding copyrights or contacting personnel there to ask. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:00, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Ira Tiffen put the photo there, it's his, taken by him. Not copyrighted.


 * I understand, but we do not know that. If the site is copyrighted, then we need his permission to be sure. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Indent your posts
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Weirdest conversations ever. Adotchar (talk) 00:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * True. Maybe I should change it. :) Oh, and you don't need the   . Just the colon(s). Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:26, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks. This is a lot easier now. Also, how does someone become a moderator? Adotchar (talk) 00:35, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Here, they are called "administrators" and here is a link to read: WP:RFA42. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:48, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Is there something below administrator but not just a normal user? Adotchar (talk) 09:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * There are many rights and privileges. Let's start with need. What is your need? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I'm trying to become extended confirmed.


 * I see. For that you would need time and edits. Please see WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:30, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. McGeddon (talk) 10:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, thanks. I didn't know which to put for that one. Also, how does someone become an extended confirmed user? Adotchar (talk) 10:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * See WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED. (If you're curious about any aspects of Wikipedia, just search for them in the search bar then click "Everything" to include pages about Wikipedia processes in your search.) --McGeddon (talk) 10:20, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I dont want to pester you, but I dont know what tenure is in the sense of wikipedia. Can you tell me?

Thanks!
For the kitten - ! Deathlibrarian (talk) 14:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC) Lol, not new to Wikipedia :-). Was working on the article, and the GF told me we were heading out and I had to stop! :-) I'm going to pop back in and fix it up in the morning. Deathlibrarian (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Sign your posts
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:30, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I forgot that one time. Check every other time, I know. Also, random page patrol is so fun. Adotchar (talk) 16:22, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I'm glad you are enjoying Wikipedia. If there is anything you ever need or have any questions, please ask. Happy editing. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, happy editing to you too! Adotchar (talk) 16:26, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. Sorry to point this out, but it was seven times . No big deal, though. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:30, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry. Also, I'm having trouble putting my userboxes on a sidebar for my user page. Can you edit it and show me? Adotchar (talk) 16:31, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

georgia
dude you spelled Georgia wrong Ejohn319 (talk) 20:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I fixed it.

RFA
Hi Adotchar, I've closed your "Optional RfA candidate poll" post as you've got no experience here at all,

Editors need to have been here for 5+ years and need to be working in the admin areas - All of which you've not done,

I would kindly suggest you focus less on becoming an admin and more on editing articles etc,

Thanks & Happy editing, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:06, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay. I wasn't actually trying to become an admin, just seeing if it was possible. Currently, I'm trying to become extended confirmed, and continue patrolling new pages, which is extremely fun. Thanks!

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Big Three (Peru)
Hi there, could you please explain why you tagged the Big Three (Peru) article for neutrality? Those three clubs are known as the big three in Peru. The tone is also neutral, I wrote objectively about it, and only stated facts. I also cited sources. The tag you added to the page says there is a discussion and explanation on the talk page, but there is none, so I thought I would ask why you tagged the article for neutrality, thanks. (Subzzee (talk) 05:46, 21 May 2016 (UTC))
 * The neutrality of the article could be disputed. I'm not disputing it's nickname, but you described some of it as "great", as well as "most successful". I'll remove the tag, but please fix it. Thanks, Adotchar (talk) 13:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Chimmaidlai page
Sangappadyamani (talk) 13:28, 22 May 2016 (UTC) Hi I created village page Chimmaidlai,you reviewed and moved its to incomplete category, can you review again and conform the same.I added some related link to complete the page.

Thanks with regards Sangappa


 * Just wondering, do you speak english fluently? I went to the page, and there were so many problems with spelling and the way you worded different things, making it very hard to read. For example, you put "Nabor state" and not neighboring states, making it seem as though there is a state called the Nabor state within India, which there is not, as well as many other mistakes. Please fix your pages to help native english speakers understand it, as it may be confusing. Adotchar (talk) 14:47, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

May 2016
Hello Adotchar. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that you shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and content (CSD A3) moments after they are created. It is also suggested that pages that might meet CSD A7 criteria not be tagged for deletion immediately after they are created. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Wikipedia. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Georgia State Route 39 spur (Jakin)
Georgia State Route 39 Spur (Jakin) isn't an inappropriate page computerbrain Adotchar Ejohn319 (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Adotchar (talk) 22:05, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I Have created new article but it is saying that it is created
Hello

Sorry, I can remove the article which is look like promotions.Can you help me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Discount broker (talk • contribs) 10:08, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Teamdako
Create a new section with the new section button on the top right, but it's okay for now.

Indent your posts

 * Also remember to sign your posts with 4 of ~

SwingThought Tour
You marked SwingThought Tour as reviewed. Such a large amount of text added in a single edit with [1] etc. is a strong indication that it is copy pasted. It is always a good idea to put some of the text into a search engine to find that out. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, sorry. Also, are you watching my every move?


 * No worries. And no, I watch WP:UAA. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:04, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I was on that????? Adotchar (talk) 01:44, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No. Someone else posted there. You were the reviewer. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, okay. Great! Adotchar (talk) 13:05, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello again. Same goes for articles with heavily promotional language, like the line about David Sparte being a "modern-day story-teller who offers us a sometimes dark but totally unbiased vision of reality". Before you spend your time editing it to have a more appropriate tone, Google it to check whether the whole article is (as it was here) just copypasted from the musician's own website. --McGeddon (talk) 11:08, 3 June 2016 (UTC)


 * McGeddon speaks a wise truth. A good Wikipedian dumps lots of text into google to see if it's copyvio. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:24, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Removed prod on Carol Mann
Hi! I'm just curious what reason you have for deleting the PROD on Carol Mann (artist)? I do not see that you made any iumprovements to the article or changed it-- you just deleted it and said she was notable, and tagged it as POV. I did some searches and could not come up with anything significant on her. I'd suggest you should add references dsuporting notability, or restore the prod. What do you think?HappyValleyEditor (talk) 23:15, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * PS: the Watercolour society she is a member in can be joined by anyone for $35. Notable artists do not join that kind of thing!HappyValleyEditor (talk) 23:17, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, I searched around and found a personal website for the artist, which was extremely well built, as well as a piece for her in the lemonade art gallery. Adotchar (talk) 13:23, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm NasssaNser. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Soma (Windhand album), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.  NasssaNser talk &#124; cont  10:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it automatically reviews stuff when I add tags. Adotchar (talk) 10:40, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Question: References covering content distributed in a Wiki page
Thank you, Adotchar, for reviewing my article on Brigadier General Frederic B Bates.

I am new to creating Wiki pages and I'm sure I will get better with time.

My question is that the eight references that I already linked to the content do cover ALL the material I wrote up. The approach I used was to put the reference against the first item that used that reference. How should I reference the following material? Should I be repeating the references? Or is there a smarter technique?

Maybe there is a Wiki page already that answers this question, which would make your reply easy. However, I've been looking and haven't found one.

This is also the first time I've used a talk page, so I hope I'm doing this right and will get a link to your response.

Thanks again for helping me.

DanielTShaw 00:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielTrevorShaw (talk • contribs)


 * Use four of these: ~ to sign your posts. Adotchar (talk) 00:53, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

AUSTRALIAN YACHTSMAN OF THE YEAR AWARDS
Australian Yachtsman of the Year Awards is the fullest history of ths prestigious awards commenced in 1962 and Wikipedia has no history or mention of it AT ALL.I thought I was helping you guys out by providing the fullest history of its commencement and the awards right up until 2 years ago since 1962. I hope you accept this correct and interesting detail for history's sake as well as for Wikipedia to whom many of us turn to for information. Kindest regards MAX PRESS — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maxpress32 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The page in question is non-notable. Clubjustin  Talkosphere  04:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

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What makes you think Zauba Technologies is a hoax? I've tagged it under G11 (blatant advertising). Zero talk 11:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

- I don't exactly remember why I put the hoax tag, but I think that it's because much of the information was there as a hoax. Adotchar (talk) 09:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Adotchar,

It appears the page about SIRE Life Sciences needs more citations and promotional/advertising content. Is there any advice you could give on improving this article?

I tried to write the article in an objective manner, but I can understand if this is still too subjective.

I had a look at the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talent_Technology as it is a similair company.

Any help would be much appreciated!

Best regards,

Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by RJGiel (talk • contribs) 10:30, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Ira Tiffen Portrait.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Ira Tiffen Portrait.jpg, which you've attributed to Ira Tiffen. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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 * It was sent to me by email from the owner. It's no where else online, in any media, or anything. Adotchar (talk) 21:15, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Eric Forgue
Hey Adotchar! Just wanted to say that you do a great job on Wikipedia!

I'm sorry about my autobiography and all the problems I've caused you....kind of foolish of me

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help rectify the situation! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericf505 (talk • contribs) 10:09, 6 October 2016 (UTC)


 * That's okay. See WP:SOCKPUPPETS about the other account I believe you used to edit, or someone did and was created for that purpose.

Also, remember to sign your posts with four of these ~. The page on you should be fixed up shortly, I'll be working on it later.

Tag-bombing of Attract-kill pattern
Hi Adotchar, you tagged an article with four references as unreferenced. You also said that a one paragraph article needed to be divided into sections. Did you give this article two whole seconds of glance? Adding header bars around the word references would right there have solved two of the problems that you tagged, (one not actually even being true in the first place). Lady of  Shalott  01:35, 17 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I sincerely apologize for all harm this may have caused. I reviewed the page Attract-kill pattern, and found the following. I put a sections tag on it, as it was a paragraph with many facts that should be in different sections, not all in the header. The unreferenced was used as the references it had were not links, and the only pages I could find by searching the identification of the references in google was a few pages about "Plant-Plant-Microbe Mechanisms Involved in Soil-Borne Disease Suppression on a Maize and Pepper Intercropping System". The references are not able to be accessed or proved, there really should be a link in there. Though it does not need a link, and the references policy only has one section on links, the references were hard to verify, and I couldn't. Adotchar (talk) 09:33, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I think you have a misunderstanding about verifiability. It is required that references be veriable, not that they be easily so. For references to be valid, there is zero requirement that they be online. Print-only references that you have to physically haul yourself to a library (and quite possibly have to request interlibrary loan) to verify may be more time consuming to verify, but they are valid. Please do not mark any more articles as unreferenced simply because the references are not online. (See Offline sources.)


 * As for sections, that is more a length and readability issue. A one paragraph article has no need for multiple sections. Now, if each of the sentences of that article were expanded into a full paragraph or paragraphs, then yes, multiple sections are needed. One paragraph is not hard visually to process; a wall of text needs to be broken up to be easily read on the screen. Does that make sense? Lady  of  Shalott  02:57, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. Adotchar (talk) 09:15, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! Lady  of  Shalott  16:27, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Just wondering, how do I get a custom signature? Adotchar (talk) 09:08, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Click on "Preferences" and scroll down to the Signature box. In the text field you'll see there, enter your signature code. Lady  of  Shalott  03:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

What is this?
"You've messed up, a lot, on Uniporter, Symporter, Antiporter I'll be adding tags to it. I"m also watching your pages. WP:talk page stalker" Please, Adotchar, remove that now. That is unwelcoming at best and, frankly, vaguely threatening. If you don't delete that from that user's page, I will. That is not acceptable. Lady  of  Shalott  03:24, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just removed it. Please do not replace that. It is wholly inappropriate, and I am disturbed you would think otherwise. Lady  of  Shalott  03:29, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * As it is text on a screen, it is quite easy to mistake the humorous tone for a more threatening one. I apologize for any problems, as I meant the message to be humorous, which is why I added the trout to try to make it unmistakably humorous, as well as the humour tag on the top of the section, and saying in the beginning of the section that I revised by earlier message to make it more humorous, as to note bite the newcomers. Since the note had a purpose, I'll put it back in very, very plain terms, as not to be confused. Adotchar (talk) 09:23, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, and the editing of your comments. This is a non-native speaker's first experience at editing and I will get them back on track. I'm pretty new at this as well so keep an eye us! Jparcoeur (talk) 11:06, 18 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your understanding! If you ever need any help, please contact me. Is it okay if I periodically check on the pages (non-threateningly) that were assigned to people in your course? Adotchar (talk) 12:21, 18 October 2016 (UTC)