User talk:Vhann

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Bill Buckels
Hi Vann,

You left me a note about MicroSoft C needing to be in an article about Microsoft C++. To begin with, the Microsoft C compiler that used the mixed-language environmnet in the 1980's was not a C++ compiler; it was not even an Ansi compliant C compiler. I am really sick of the noobs on Wikipedia marking stuff for deletion or putting it where they think it belongs based on their limited exposure.

Recently the GRASP file format was deleted with a bit of nonsense noted. Wikipedia in my view is the greatest thing ever, but not when it comes to a topic like computing history and notability. For example, the man who developed the GRASP interpreter and the GRASP file format was also the man who developed PCPaint the very first paint program and at one time the largest selling paint program on the PC. Later he developed the very first multimedia program for the PC. In around 1988 when nobody except a few of us had ever seen true-color graphics this GRASP program supported true-color images for multimedia playback. This file format that Wikipedia's editor deleted was the very format that John Bridges used for this. I was around, I know and I am in touch with John in our FaceBook groups and he is active and so I am I still cutting code and whatever. Well it certainly is sad to see, and when this stuff of John's that got deleted came up. He and I both gave up. I chased kids when I had my own and I've got grand-kids now that are too big to chase. I think Wikipedia's kids are too big to chase too, so do whatever you want with whatever I contributed before I gave-up.

Now there is an important quote that used to say "History is written by the Victors"... when this thing with Wikipedia came-up again my Facebook status and tags said "History is written by the Losers". You will find if you keep revising stuff that was written and placed by the people who lived through those times as not only adults but as participants, that at the end of the day, the C++ articles will end-up bundled with langauges like Swift which in turn will probably end-up in with the html. The losers will not be John or I or any of the many other folks that I am still in touch-with that were the history before some editor decided to remove them.

I could have said that I have a concern and left it at that, and perhaps I will just leave now. With the parting shot of course :) Nothing surprises me after having the photo of my face removed from my profile page by some idiot. Who can challenge an encyclopedia? Or rather who has time?

Bill Buckels (talk) 23:16, 24 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Bill,

What I said was that your contribution talks about the Microsoft compilers. I think it would be better placed in an article about Microsoft compilers than in the article about cross-compilers.

As for Wikipedia and kids, I like to think that people on Wikipedia tend to act in good faith. Just the other day, I created separate articles for two people sharing the same name which turned out to be a single person. I wanted to get the pages deleted (so I was the contributor and the proposer for the deletion) but people decided to keep the pages out of policy!

Sometimes, something that doesn't make sense is made to uphold a good policy, maybe some people also do take bad actions in good faith (well, hopefully!).

I think you should write down your knowledge on a blog or something like that. That would allow your experiences to be passed on while preventing issues related to editorial oversight (for better or worse).

Anyway, have a good day, Olivier Diotte (talk) 23:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)