User talk:Viamarie

Re: Mark Klepaski page redirected....
Hi, Viamarie. The article about Mark Klepaski was redirected to Breaking Benjamin for the same reasons the articles about Aaron Fink, Shaun Foist, and Jeremy Hummel were redirected: Those articles didn't maintain significant notability independent of their parent subject (which is Breaking Benjamin). That's not to say Mark Klepaski isn't a notable musician, as he certainly is, but he's not notable independent of Breaking Benjamin. Normally, I wouldn't have bothered redirecting their pages as I'm not really one to employ hard-and-fast ruling, except that myself and a few other contributors decided to really delve into the articles related to Breaking Benjamin to rewrite them and make them better, but it's really hard if not impossible to do that if those topics aren't consistent with Wikipedia's policies on notability for musicians (NMUSIC), verifiability (V), and no original research (NOR). So I figured I'd take care of the bloat and make everything more focused.

Additionally, I'm under obligation to point you to Conflict of interest. Since you have stated you are in personal or professional association with Klepaski it may help you to be aware of that policy in particular (I'm not accusing you of a conflict of interest, rather, just pointing you to important information regarding such things). A user under the name of SoozeCat711 has repeatedly tried to reinstate the article on Shaun Foist as he/she is his manager, but we've run into multiple conflict-of-interest cases in the past with that user.

That said, I'm not opposed to working on a new article for Mark Klepaski. In order to do this we'll have to find significant, independent media coverage with him as the sole or primary topic. By significant I mean multiple posts which would show why he's particularly notable outside of Breaking Benjamin. I have tried to do this on a couple of occasions in the past with Shaun Foist but with no luck (Draft:Shaun Foist and User:SoozeCat711/sandbox). I do wish we could be more successful with Klepaski, though. I'd like to see Breaking Benjamin-related topics grow on Wikipedia, after all.

Anyway, I hope all of this information helps. I want to make it clear that redirecting all of these articles is nothing personal at all. Wikipedia isn't saying these guys aren't notable, rather, independent articles on them just isn't consistent with other rulings in the past with multiple other article topics. By the way, welcome to Wikipedia! Jacedc (talk) 18:17, 26 June 2015 (UTC)