User talk:Vicenarian/Archive 2

Ah, welcome to my world!
I get such a kick out of getting reamed on my talk page for the deletion of content which the original poster shouldn't have posted in the first place. Anyone here actually read the YFA section? Le sigh...--PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

PS: I deleted the talk page of that idiot that J. Delanoy blocked under WP:DENY. Just another greasy, pimple-faced adolescent who spends way too much time on Encyclopedia Dramatica and who isn't intelligent enough to really contribute. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 22:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppetry
I thought that we were going to get blocked for something awesome; not sockpuppetry. ;) - t'shael mindmeld 00:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Shaddup, Vulcanface. :-P I'll get blocked for something big, like, er, deleting the main page! ...if I had tools, that is.  Vicenarian  (T · C) 00:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was told in IRC the other night that you can nominate it for speedy deletion with Twinkle... - t'shael mindmeld 00:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) I'm not THAT gullible, Vulcanhead. 2) I try to stay off IRC for just that reason... people give you crazy ideas. :) Vicenarian  (T · C) 03:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I try to only go in there when I'm working on ACC. Though the CVU channel is fun at times; it makes up for me not being able to Huggle from this computer. - t'shael mindmeld 04:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL!
Oh my, some things just never go away. :) On a more positive note:  I think we may be rid of the little scourge at last.  All of his pet articles and his IPs are blocked for at least three months each and he's been quiet as a result.  I blocked User:Starwarslover101 yesterday as a fairly obvious but half-hearted attempt and had them run a CU.  No other socks and no edits from this account a la his usual "good sock/bad sock" protests.  It only took him ten months to get the message.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe he found a new hobby? Coin collecting? I'm a bit of a numismatist myself.
 * So... when do we find the time to, you know, create content? Vicenarian  (T · C) 03:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Baar (reality TV)
You see, I don't have a TV. I don't know what reality TV shows are about. This one has turned out to actually be notable, but since I don't know what it was about, or even when it ran or on what channel, I started by a placeholder and I'm filling the details in as I research this topic.

Be patient; rushed deletion will bring nobody any profit. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 19:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but work on it in your userspace first. Create it here and move it out when it's ready. Vicenarian  (T · C) 19:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My real problem with your actions here was the removal of the speedy deletion tag. There's a process - using the tag to indicate you disagree with the speedy deletion of your article. Removal of speedy deletion tags from pages you create yourself is specifically prohibited, and as an experienced editor you should know that, and you were told that, and you were repeatedly warned, but you removed the tag again and again.  Vicenarian  (T · C) 20:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * For future reference, it might have been a good idea, once Digwuren gave you this explanation, to re-tag the article along with hangon. He should know the process with his long experience, but for new users this can show them that someone knows they are contesting the deletion, and resolve the situation.  It's not mandatory, just an idea I had.  Mango juice talk 20:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a good idea, I'll try to do that in the future. In fact, I've had a new user or two remove the tag, followed by article reversion and warning two or three times, finally get the message and use hangon. Digwuren was removing the tag so fast, though, it probably wouldn't have done any good. Vicenarian  (T · C) 20:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Dylan620
I've been thinking of asking Dylan to adopt me. Since you are one of his Padawans, I thought I'd ask you what your opinion of him as an adopter is first. - t'shael mindmeld 21:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Raghavendra stotra‎
I see that you have PRODded this article. I guess I just wanted to say thank you; I was going to do it but thought that it might be a little "iffy" coming from me. Thanks again, - t'shael mindmeld 01:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. You can probably tell I watch both your and PMDrive's talk pages very carefully, LOL. I took a look at that and thought, "It may not be a copyvio, but..." Vicenarian  (T · C) 01:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've noticed that the more mistakes I make, the more popular my talk page has become... ;) - t'shael mindmeld 01:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, that's usually the case around here, I find. Vicenarian  (T · C) 01:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah well, I suppose with the amount of CSD tagging I do I am bound to make mistakes. At least I didn't get suspended on ACI for stealing requests...:) - t'shael mindmeld 01:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)What was that I said before about getting WP:WQA on your Vulcan behind? :) Shoo, go tag. I'm actually going to try working on an article. Vicenarian  (T · C) 01:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think I may go watch the Laker game. Let me know when you get your article written and I'll be sure to incorrectly tag it. ;) - t'shael mindmeld 01:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the poke. :) GO LAKERS!  I used to go The Forum when I was a kid.  I can honestly say I saw guys like Chamberlain, West, Hairston, Goodrich, Baylor, et. al. actually play.  PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It's a gift. Besides, I can sorta kinda watch this site and still do my job. PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * So can I, until my boss strolls into my cubicle. :) Vicenarian  (T · C) 01:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

A Favour
Will you look at this and tell me what you think? - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  15:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks good, Lord Vulcan. My only concern is that since it's a WP:BLP, you should probably err on the side of using inline citations. I would also look for third-party references, news sources and the like. I'm sure teh Google could pull some. Otherwise, nice! Vicenarian  (T · C) 15:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your sage advice, O Good Article Reviewer. :) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  15:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * (e.c.) Also, I'd comment out anything that adds the article to a category for now, including the stub tag. Users might accidentally stumble upon it in your user space through categories... Vicenarian  (T · C) 15:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't think of that. Good idea. - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  15:33, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)If you get a chance, would you mind looking at it again? I added some references as well as some inline citations. Thanks :) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  16:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Beautiful. I would consider moving the The Michigan Daily link into a section called "References," and changing the name of your current "References" section to "Notes." (The news article isn't really an EL so much as an additional reference, albeit an uncited one.) Also, I would also encourage formatting the cites with citation templates. Cite web is the simplest, I find. Vicenarian  (T · C) 16:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Goodness gracious. This is more work than I thought..;) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  16:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this what you meant? - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  17:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Beautiful. Move it out onto the main page this instant, young man! (PS: This is an alternate account for Vicenarian. See User:Vicenarian.) Tricenarian (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, alternate me. Not surprisingly, regular me concurs. Why has this not been moved yet? Do it before I do... :-P Vicenarian  (T · C) 17:35, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent/ec) Hah. Sorry, I stepped away for lunch. :) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  17:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Lunch? We don't get "lunch." We work on WP! *cracks whip* But yeah, this is why I'm so lazy about creating pages on my own... to make a good one, it takes a lot of work! Vicenarian  (T · C) 17:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. now it has a cite error on it. Mind taking a look? This wiki-formatting can be a pain, at times.- t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  17:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you have to put the cite templates in the ref tags, and then use to display the reference list in your Notes section. Here, I'll clean it up for you. Might as well do something productive, since today's even slower at work than usual.  Vicenarian  (T · C) 17:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. :) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  17:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent)Tah dah! This could be the start of a beautiful friendship. Wait, that's a quote, I'd better cite it... Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, that looks lovely. :) Thank you. Do I need to delete user:T'Shael/Scott Boerma or not? - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  17:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You don't HAVE to do so (I think), but if you want to keep your user space clean, I don't see why not. You can request speedy U1, it'll be deleted right quick. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If it's not mandatory, I may not mess with it. :) A little clutter in the userspace is a good thing. Oh, and I really appreciate your help with this, my second article. :) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  18:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm happy to help! I almost do better editing other people's work than I do creating my own. In fact, I'm actually going to cite this article in my essay WP:PRIMETIME as an example of how pages SHOULD be created. :) -- Previous unsigned comment by that doofus Vicenarian, who constantly forgets to sign his damn talk page comments

(outdent) Before you do that, perhaps you should start signing your comments? ;) - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  18:10, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean about editing other people's work. I agree. I'm considering an RfA in October, and content creation is something of which I have very little and this seems to be frowned upon. Alas. - t'shael  ,Lord of the Vulcans  18:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Re
Never again will I put "if you have any questions feel free to ask me on my talk page" anywhere on Wikipedia..;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Too bad that's included in pretty much EVERY standard Twinkle notification template, lol. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. you're right. I'll just have to chase them down and then blank that part out. ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  18:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Making Kids Cry?
On V'Shael's talk page, were you talking about me, because I wasn't crying and I'm not a kid (I'm a pre-teen! There's a difference). BriMaster2 (talk) 20:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC) BriMaster2
 * Don't worry, I was just teasing T'Shael. I know you weren't crying. Whatever your age, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like it here. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 13:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Mamata Charitable Trust

 * It looks like we both tried to put this up for AfD at the same time. I hope you don't think I was trying to delete your work. THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 15:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Heya!
It's your adopter. Sorry that I've been gone for so long, I've been very busy IRL. I see that you've gotten access to ACC since I last checked up on you! Let me know when you're ready to start Lesson #4: Article writing. Cheers! &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 16:27, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. I know how distracting real life can be. :) Yes, definitely ready for article writing! I've gotten my hands dirty pretty much everywhere else. Now I want to create some content. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Another Bambifan sock, another Bambifan block.
Thanks much to you and to Cactusjump for alerting me to "Our 'Deer' Little Bambi." You two have become among my favorite users on this site for your friendliness as well as your diligence. In plain English, you guys rock. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * *blush* Thanks, it was really all Cactus. I just took one look at those edits and edit summaries and got a familiar chill. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I know the feeling, dude. Cactusjump earned one of these and you certainly have as well:

Thank you, my brother-in-arms. :) Gotta run, but take care and keep up the good work.  You da bestest.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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PMDrive1061 (talk) has eaten your cookie! The cookie made happy and 'd like to give you a great big hug for donating it. Spread the WikiLove by giving out more cookies, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Thanks again!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat a cookie with {{subst:munch}}!

Ah, nothing like a little dessert right after lunch and before I hit the road to go to work. Thanks much. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 20:32, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I must agree with PMDrive1061. While I haven't had any experiences with Cactus, you are quite an asset to this site. :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you all! It's nice to be appreciated. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Dj-801
See all the fun that 7 and I had last night? Not as impressive as you getting 14 admins to converge on a single user page, but interesting nonetheless. ;) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  12:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, my admin attracting powers are unmatched - but that's interesting. What was the wee one trying to do, exactly? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 13:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * He uploaded a picture of himself at Commons and was trying to create an article about himself using said picture. The only problems were: a) he is 11; b) he was putting his real name/place of residence in the article making it; c) fairly easy to find him. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  14:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A+B+C = Trouble. Good going. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. :) It was grand fun -- wish you could have been there. - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  15:25, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) I'm without a computer at home right now (defective LCD screen), so I'm only on at work, 13:00 - 22:00 UTC. Sorry I had to miss it. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, that sucks. You should get a MacBook. But, it's nice that you can be on at work without getting into trouble (I hope?). - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  15:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As long as I get my work done! :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

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Comrade in arms!
Another cookie for you, for your continued good humor in the midst of fighting crime. Mwah ah ah.

Thanks. Cactusjump (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Megan-joy-corkrey (1).jpg
Yeah, I suspect as much about the image as being a blatant copyvio... but where does it say on Gawker that the image is from AP? Tabercil (talk) 22:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Gawker doesn't say (although the file names for all the photos on that page begin with "AP"), but see this. The photos are mentioned as being AP. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:35, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Perfect. One more image goes DOA... Tabercil (talk) 22:37, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm... a half-dozen images down and I'm still hunting. Think I'll juct clear out the remainder as unsourced and note that uploader also uploaded a number of known copyvios. Tabercil (talk) 22:43, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it. They're all doubtful enough, no need for the extra work. Took me a bit to find that page explicitly mentioning the AP as the source for the Megan Joy photo. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And done again. <G> Tabercil (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the good mopwork! :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy 's Day!
For a userbox you can put on your userpage, please see User:Dylan620/Today/Happy Me Day!. &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 00:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Dylan, from the bottom of my heart. :) It's an honor to work with great Wikipedians such as yourself. Here's to many more days of making WP the greatest free encyclopedia in history!


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NawlinWiki list of things that will get speedy deleted
Is it not the same as WP:STUPID? Or similar. 211.30.108.47 (talk) 13:45, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Certainly similar. A lot of editors who do new page patrol or speedy deletions come up with their own lists of things they see often. I happen to like NawlinWiki's. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:19, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikibreak
Hey, Vicenarian, I hope that your wikibreak is refreshing and you come back at 110%. Have fun! :) - T'Shael,  Lord of the Vulcans  02:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

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Oops, metro train accident name change
I thought very, very carefully, taking all potential points of view. However, I forgot to look if there was a discussion. I will be more careful next time. But this shows that I am a very analytical and fair person because my own internal deliberations satisfied all points of view! User F203 (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, not a problem. You not only solved the problem that people had with "accident," but also my earlier point that "Metro" is both a bus and rail system, so that "Metrorail" should be used to distinguish. However, the WP standard seems to be "Washington Metro" to refer to the train system. So yes, you solved all the problems without even realizing it. :) A+! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 16:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I actually took that into consideration because I knew some people call it Metrobus and Metrorail. Also, read the BBC article carefully, near the bottom third, where it says the train was going in the lightly travelled direction (opposite the heavy commuter passenger traffic/going to suburbs).  I'm going to give the article a rest for now. User F203 (talk) 16:07, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see it now. Missed that the first time around. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 16:09, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

article name in introduction
Wikipedia has a bad habit of creating a name and using awkward language in the 1st sentence.

Nobody else uses the term "2009 Washington Metro train collision" or similar. We are creating an article name from original research. Since there is no agreed upon name worldwide, we do have to create a name but it doesn't have to be used in the introduction.

In WP, we usually use awkward language such as...

The 2009 Bombay bomb blast was a bomb blast in Bombay. Here, we are almost saying "The 2009 Washington Metro train collision was a train collision in 2009.". User F203 (talk) 21:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The link you gave gives the exception!

If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence.[2] However, if the article title is merely descriptive—such as Electrical characteristics of dynamic loudspeakers—the title does not need to appear verbatim in the main text.

This title is descriptive. It is not "Finland". It is not "West High School". It is a descriptive, Wikipedia-created name. You are a smart person who discussing things well, hence the discussion. I am not out to fight so I haven't discussed this in the talk page or RFC yet. User F203 (talk) 21:21, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be 2 kinds of article with this weird and awkward prose, events and murders. "The Murder of Joe Wiki was when Joe Wiki was stabbed on January 1, 2001" or "The 2009 Bombay blases was when Bombay was bombed in a terrorist attack".

Correct me if I'm wrong. We both agree that it bad prose. We can't figure out how to change it. You cite the MOS. I cite a possible exception. But we both agree that it sounds poorly written. Is this accurate? If so, I will think of ways to improve the quality of WP writing. I just want a second opinion that it sounds less than perfect.

In contrast, articles for countries and people include the article title and are perfectly acceptable. "General Charles deGaulle (18xx-196x) was a French general and statesman...." or "Finland is a country in northern Europe..."

User F203 (talk) 15:00, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
I have no idea why I'm leaving a talkback notice as I know that you watch my pages. Ah well..;)  T'Shael,  The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, that's exactly what I was about to say. Way to pollute my talk page with colorful templates! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I aim to please. ;) Just think of it as a little colour to brighten up your day. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Abuse Filter
I thought that I was bad having tripped the abuse filter thrice. You, on the other hand are almost .. epic. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:14, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but for the most part, I was simply a new user taking bold action... and I'm not sure what the filter regarding my PROD nominations is all about; all my PRODs go through Twinkle, but sometimes I go back and edit/reword my justification. YOU on the other hand... MJ vandalism? Short page creation? YouTube link??!! My my my. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yes, I've turned over a new leaf since you've been away. ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:29, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I hate seeing dozens of posts labelled "thanks" on talk pages, so I won't call this one thanks
Thanks for that Barnstar, I didn't realise I was funny (despite having multiple Good Humour Awards). Anyway, you can have this userbox if you want.

Scribbles (ScribbleStick) is my sidekick. He doesn't seem to mind. Of course, if you don't want it, you don't have to use it. It's not very well made either. I'll soon add you to the non-shame list and your award to the page HERE. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  20:26, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will display your userbox with pride. Don't forget your new title, Lord S-dogg. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:28, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I won't, don't worry. I just got busy with someone cracking my anti-vandal system, so once I've updated it to fix edit tags within the article (you know what I mean) I'll add your barnstar to the barnstar page. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  20:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * And now I have cracked it. Muhahahahaha! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll make it better tomorrow. So that you can't crack it (but don't do it again, its annoying). I don't mind, but my page doesn't tell you to vandalise. I don't know where this rumour has sprung up, my page actually asks you to edit not to vandalise, which are not exactly the same thing. Who cares though. Spongefrog,  (talk to me, or else)  15:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I apologize if I have caused annoyance. I will desist. Clever system, though. Would confuse the heck out of most actual vandals. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Funny revert
I saw this one, which you reverted right before I could. I was laughing out loud; that's why you beat me to it! Newportm (talk) 02:34, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah, I did think it was funny, but my Huggle trigger finger was itchy. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Your wikistress metre
Why so serious? ;) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * What is this "metre" you speak of? My Firefox spellchecker says it's spelled wrong!! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:50, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps your Firefox is confused? My Firefox doesn't seem to mind it. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * On a different note, where is it that you find "Wikipedia is not for things made up one day"? I cannot seem to locate it. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 17:57, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Appropriately, at WP:MADEUP. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow. How did I not guess that? Maybe I need to go back to bed. ;) Thank you, as always. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 18:01, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Question
What, in your opinion, are the chances of getting an article such as Creeping Death to GA status? - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For starters, I smell a good deal of original research, especially the part about the lyrics and the plagues. Also, there are almost no references whatsoever. You could certainly get it to GA status with some work; outside sourcing would be a good first step. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:41, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, thanks. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

re:Bubba's talk page
No, not at all. I was just having a bit of fun and apologise if I offended you. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:47, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I was completely joking, of course. :) About the fighting part - I did come up with my name based on that article. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, I thought you were but I just wanted to make sure. :) - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 19:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "Big whoop, wanna fight about it?" I think that's a Family Guy reference, but my mind is so mutilated from trashy TV, it could be from anywhere. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't think you were serious at all and thought it was absolutely hilarious. – B.hotep •talk• 19:58, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * *bows* I aim to please, Master Bubba. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:07, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Although, I was hoping for a wiki-fracas. Makes the day seem worthwhile! T'Shael said you smell, btw. I know. I told him, but you know him! – B.hotep •talk• 20:24, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the user warnings sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. Time about is fair play, ;-P T'Shael,  The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:DNTTR. Thank you. See this is at least educational. – B.hotep •talk• 20:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:TTR. :-P And I believe it's "turnabout is fair play," Lord Vulcan. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:51, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Ack. That would have been funnier had I used the correct phrase. - T'Shael, The Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 20:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Possible improvement to your user page
I don't know about you, but this version has its charm, no? - T'Shael, The Infernal Vulcan Overlord  16:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC 02:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm just GLOOBA with that. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Zionism
Please explain what was wrong with my recent edit that you reverted. The groups described were all Zionist, as a check on Irgun and Lehi confirms. Given that the previous sentence identifies them as Jews, I found your edit destructive. Please consider reverting it, as I do not wish to violate the 3r rule. If you disagree, please explain yourself on the talk page there.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I apologize if you felt it was destructive. The word "Zionist" often appears in vandalism, so it attracts a lot of attention. Your edit was in good faith and I apologize. However, I did not revert your latest edit. I see you have brought the issue up on the article's talk page. That's a good place to start building consensus for making the change. Happy editing! Regards, Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Zionist or Zionist? Thank you for the apology.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Is your question about which version appears in vandalism, or which you should use? Vandals don't usually wikilink. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't think so. Any way of distinguishing between the two on the automated edit thing? Should be. Thanks.93.96.148.42 (talk) 02:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it will appear as such: Zionist . Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

This Isn't War
what about his comment about "medication" ... back off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.21.136 (talk)
 * It was inappropriate, and he was warned for it, but your response was completely out of line. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I forgot what is was now. Maybe I do need new meds!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.123.21.136 (talk) 19:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ever seen a sysop vandalise???
Here it is. - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha, funny. She WAS trying to test an abuse filter, it seems. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:08, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I shall test an abuse filter (probably 194) on your user page later. Semi-protection will not stop me! ;) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You, and ONLY you, have permission to mess with my page every once and a while, for filter testing or fun. :) I repeat, ONLY T'SHAEL. Thanks, folks. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ooh.. this could be fun. :) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note that I said every once and a while. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But... but... I had so many ideas for improvement! :) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

←Hey, if you have ideas for CONSTRUCTIVE improvements, go for it. :) If I don't like it, I'll just revert it. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I should probably prettify my own user page befor I start on other users. I would have to wait until PMDrive gets on, though, so I can see if he'll dial the protection down a bit. - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't have to wait. Any admin would probably be happy to move it to semi-protect at your request. Just look for one active over at WP:AIV and ask nicely. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 19:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you're right. Hopefully there's an admin on whom I've dealt with in the past and who knows how pernickety I can be. ;) - t'shael <sup style="color:red; font-family:verdana;">chat 19:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

zOMG
Were you aware that you can nominate articles for deletion with Twinkle? I've been doing it manually...:( - t'shael chat 04:06, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ummmm... seen the "XfD" tab at the top of every single page when Twinkle is active? *minnowslap* Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 04:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah, I had no idea what that was about. ;) Impressive, eh? - t'shael chat 04:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Beauty Rock
Strangest. AfD. Ever. - t'shael the sock Talk to my master 00:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * What the frak? I can't even follow the discussion... Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, tell me about it. One person posting under three different "nicks". - t'shaél chat 03:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, my adoptee!
I hope you had a wonderful 4th of July. I personally spent most of it huggling. Let me know when you're ready to proceed to the next lesson; Wikignoming! :D &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 23:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, huggling is a fun way to spend a day. :) I'm ready for the next lesson when you are! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:21, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I have quite a new found respect for WikiGnomes now. It's such a vital role to the encyclopedia, yet so thankless. - t'shaél chat 21:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll get Lesson #5 started up this afternoon; I'll spend the rest of my morning using Killer. :D &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 11:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

A second message: Bambifan?
Hello again, Vicenarian! Since you seem to have experience with User:Bambifan101, would you consider this to be his work? Thanks, &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 19:09, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. I'd report it to WP:ANI. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Do you have any idea?
But could this be a sleeper sock? User:It is me again

Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!  00:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hard to tell without a more substantial edit history. Sock of what user do you suspect? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. Another user, T'sheal, recamened I ask you this. Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!(Sign here)  22:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Autoconfirmation is too easy to attain
Four days and 10 edits just doesn't seem like long enough, or enough edits, for me. Thoughts? - t'shaél chat 01:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, from my experience, most vandals are "opportunistic" - they feel the urge to vandalize "in the moment" so they go ahead and do it right then and there. If they had to wait to vandalize, they'd probably find something else to do. Requiring a four-day wait hopefully weeds out all but the most determined of vandals, which are (relatively) easily dealt indefinite blocks. It's a matter of balancing the desire to allowi good-faith newcomers (like ourselves once were) to jump right in and the need to keep out the most pernicious of trolls. Are four days and ten edits enough? I'm not sure, but I see the wisdom in not extended the waiting period too long. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, when you put it that way, I see the wisdom in it. It just doesn't seem to do enough to stop trolls. Ah well, thanks for the "words of wisdom", as always. ;) - t'shaél chat 01:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Wisdom sought once more
You know more about copyright than I do, can I use File:ShaniaTwain3.jpg on my user page? - t'shaél chat 01:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it has a WP-compatible Creative Commons license. You are free to use it as you wish, on WP and off, so long as you attribute it (a link back to its WP or Commons "file" page works for uses on WP). Note: Most anything from the Commons is freely available for your use in whatever demented intriguing way you see fit. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking, but I wanted to make sure. Thanks again. :) Oh, and on a side note, you need to be nicer to me.. please read WP:CIV. - t'shaél chat 02:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You may seek my advice, but be forewarned - you may be teased mercilessly. :-D Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. ;) - t'shaél chat 02:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Trouted
Whack! You have been trouted for: this edit summary. :) - t'shaél chat 02:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hah, I stand trouted. Noticed that our user pages are converging into a similar format? Yours is prettier, though. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but you may not think so anymore. ;) - t'shaél chat 02:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion
Why not just replace your user page with " #REDIRECT user:T'Shael ?" ;) - t'shaél chat 03:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. Hey, wanna make yourself useful? Can you fix my icons (here and on my userpage) so they don't overlap with my status. Danke! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That okay? - t'shaél chat 03:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I like this better. :) -- Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, fair enough. I noticed you removed from your userpage. Why for? - t'shaél chat 03:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's back. :-)

←Ah, good. Never know when someone will need it. - t'shaél chat 03:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Teamwork is teh good
Would you be interested in collaborating on an article sometime? - t'shaél chat 05:51, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! Creating a new article (at least one that's up to MY high standards) all by myself is a daunting task. What did you have in mind? Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 13:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * How about "Transcendental homelessness" or "Constitutional theories of criminology" which have been here for more than a year. That surprises me. Not least because I haven't got a clue what they mean. – B.hotep •talk• 14:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Uhhhh... what? Maybe there's a reason they've been requested for more than a year... Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with Vicenarian, that's probably why they've been requested for over a year. I was thinking though, instead of creating a brand new article, that we could improve an article that's already here to GA or FA status. t'shaél chat 20:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Anything particular you had in mind, T? (Or, as we may soon be calling you, Javert. That's right, I stalk your contributions, I know allll about your usurpation request.:)) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←"T" is fine, I can't be Javert for at least a week. ;) Impressive that you noticed this, though, as my usurpation request isn't even in the first 50 on my contributions page. Anyway, I could be selfish and say Ruthie Henshall, but it really should be an article that we're both interested in, that way neither of us finds it tedious. - t'shaél chat 20:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't know about that one... biographies are daunting... anything a little more softball? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vicenarian (talk • contribs)
 * Well, I've been meaning to write WP:Obvious Sock is Obvious for awhile. ;) Most of the articles on my to do list are biographies, so I dunno. What do you think? - t'shaél chat 21:10, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Notice how that's now a bluelink...? :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:14, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ! - t'shaél chat 21:15, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←Any way to work the shenanigans at user talk:NawlinWiki into the essay? - t'shaél chat 21:22, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe as an example. It was your idea, so I leave the initial composition to you! :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But.. but.. this was going so well! I suggest something, then you implement it. ;) - t'shaél chat 21:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but what, exactly, do you want to say? I've nutshelled what I think you're getting at, but it's your brainchild. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:28, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * lol, the nutshell is quite right. I'm just going to turn the situation with Nawlin into an essay. Not sure if I can use the history of his talk page in it or if that would be considered unacceptable. - t'shaél chat 21:35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

←I think it would be acceptable, if NW gives you the go-ahead. Problem with that, though, is that I don't know if you can isolate a chunk of past page history out from more current page history - user talk pages are likely to change rapidly. You might be able to do so with some fiddling... I say go forth, young man. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I can copy it to a subpage in my userspace, and then link to that. Nawlin's talk page gets hit so much that I don't think this essay will ever link to anything not relevant. - t'shaél chat 21:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahem, a small aside, re: my suggestions above... maybe I should have put a smiley at the end, 'cos I was joking guys! :D – B.hotep •talk• 21:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, I knew you were just joking but I forgot my customary ";)". My apologies. - t'shaél chat 22:00, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Bubba, I always assume you're joking, except when you're blocking a pernicious troll. Then you are heart-attack serious. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:09, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Image on Benjamin Franklin Gilbert
There seems to be some issue with the syntax used to add the image to the infobox... can someone help me fix it? Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. The infobox processes everything by itself so the image didn't need embedding or a namespace. -- Menti  fisto  16:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 16:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
The lesson page is up! &rarr;  Dylan 620  (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 17:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me
But do you know how to run Huggle on a Macbook? Abce2 | Free Lemonade  Only 25 cents!(Sign here)  20:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Alas, no, for I am a PC, like that guy on TV. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:26, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Obviously
I like the changes that you have made. Good show, old chap. ;) - t'shaél chat 23:33, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 'Tis nothing, dear friend. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I plan on incorporating some examples from Nawlin's talk page as soon as I get his permission, but in the meantime, feel free to add to it. All I really did was start the skeleton. By the way, per, on 14 July will be no more. - t'shaél chat 23:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 14 July. How fitting. :) I'll consult my muse and see if I can come up with some additional wisdom-pearls. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 23:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ha, it's strange how that worked out like that. I'll have to add a note on my user page about it once it gets completed. - t'shaél chat 23:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Some vacation...
I check in for a moment and the little jackass in Mobile is messing with my talk page, expecting me to believe that he's a well-meaning IP reporting a Bambifan sock. What a joke. That IP has now been blocked for one year, I am off to protect his latest round of articles...if I don't throw this computer across the room first. Thanks for the well-wishes, BTW. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Bless you. Had to change plans, which has put me in a really foul mood anyway. Thank heavens there are a few islands of sanity like you on this site. See you soon. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Eddie Maguire
My edits improved the accuracy of the article.

Llewellyn's affidavit contained not mere "allegations" and was not merely "written". It contained sworn evidence to the Court. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.219.74 (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Go for it. I will cease and desist from reverting. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Explain
What did I say that was not true? There was no personal attack...--Tiocfaídh Ár Lá (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * See this. Please keep your comments to the content of the article, not specific editors. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 05:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem Vicenarian, you obviously are a good editor... but I hope you can understand my reaction when somebody tries to argue that a 30 year war that left thousands dead and injured is less important than some off colour comment about Michael Jackson. Take care--Tiocfaídh Ár Lá (talk) 05:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I understand the sentiment, but we all must try to maintain neutrality here, as personal points-of-view interfere with our goal of creating a neutral, balanced encyclopedia. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 15:49, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

The Biggest Favour Ever
Remember what wonderful work with the references you did for me at Scott Boerma? If you wouldn't mind, could you do the same at Ruthie Henshall? I would reeeeeeeeeeeeeeally appreciate it and would give you barnstars and a "support" !vote at banhammer armament. :D Best, t'shaél chat 06:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, no problem, I'm happy to do it, for the good of Wikipedia. No barnstars required (and I was already counting on your !vote should I ever stand trial for high crimes against vandals). Let me get some coffee, or else I'm going to be one of these. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:24, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Blimey, there's more collapsing going on on this page than there is in a galaxy full of black holes! – B.hotep •talk• 16:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Aye, it's true. But the collapsed threads suit my sense of humor and my sense of style. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 16:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You've rubbed off on us, Bubba. ;) - t'shaél chat 20:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ahem, I think I was promised a barnstar... ;) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:23, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

←Oops. - t'shaél chat 01:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That's okay, good editing is its own reward. I'll leave barnstar begging to Spongefrog, who does so with style. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:29, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, Sponge is pretty good at begging for barnstars. :) t'shaél chat 01:32, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Open request
You left an open request on the ACC tool.--Rockfang (talk) 20:00, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I completely forgot about that. I'll take care of it now. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 20:02, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:CIVIL
Per this. You might also take a gander atWP:DONOTEVERCHANGEANYTHINGTHATTSHAELDOESORFACETHEMIGHTYBANHAMMER - t'shaél chat 01:13, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL^2. Sorry, when unleashed, my perfectionist tendencies come to light. :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Understandable. :) Anything that gets Ruthie closer to GA status (though, sadly, she is far from it) is good for the 'Pedia. - t'shaél chat 01:19, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Mmm..crunchy barnstar

 * Thank you! I most humbly and graciously accept. :) I didn't think anybody had read my little essay/rant. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:43, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Not only have I read it, but I created a redirect to it. ;) - t'shaél chat 02:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Have you seen Wikipedia can wait? A good portion of that is pure Vicenarian-style humour. (With a "u," just for you.) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:05, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Actually, I haven't. I'm not sure that I have ever heard of it. Hmm.. - t'shaél chat 02:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

*Ding*
You've got mail. :) t'shaél chat 03:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And you've got a reply! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 03:57, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Et tu. :) t'shaél chat 04:07, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey you stalker
No, don't take that as an insult. In fact, I would like to thank you for helping me on Spongy's talk page. Cheers. :-)Rkr1991 (talk) 14:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You're very welcome, anytime. I'm a "highly active user," usually from 13:00 to 04:00 UTC, so feel free to stop by anytime with a question. Cheers, Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks.Rkr1991 (talk) 14:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Adoption
I want to be adopted, just like you. What do I do ?Rkr1991 (talk) 14:17, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Check out Adopt-a-User for instructions. You can list your name there. Sooner or later, an adopter should stop by. You can also approach an editor open to adopting (you can find them at Adopt-a-User) and ask to be adopted by them. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:21, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks. Rkr1991 (talk) 14:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * And I just did exactly as was given... thanks again for the link... Rkr1991 (talk) 14:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Glad I could help. As for the admins not responding to you, I wouldn't take it personally, because it's highly unlikely that it is personal. But I can't read minds (that would be nice, though), so honestly, I can't tell you why they haven't responded. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Admins are mean. :) - t'shaél chat 21:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

At your earliest convenience...
...please head to your email and notice that you have a new message. :) t'shaél chat 21:54, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ :) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 01:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I was also a bit sad to notice that my talk page doesn't really need me.. :( - t'shaél chat 01:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

You's got some 'splainin to do
What is this? - t'shaél chat 22:19, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Why, is the administrator dashboard with the Signpost attached to the top, now known as VICENARIAN'S STATE OF THE WIKI REPORT. I plan to add other useful sections as well, some outside the purview of the dashboard. You are credited in a comment for inspiring me, if you check the page code. :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Anything else that you'd like? ;) - t'shaél chat 22:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, don't worry, I'll take anything I like, under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0. :-P Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops. I always forget that part. :) - t'shaél chat 22:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * <ec> Touché, V. Nice one. :D – B.hotep •talk• 22:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

←I have the occasional flash of brilliance, y'know. Vicenarian <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C)
 * Brilliance. :D - t'shaél chat 22:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You and your Ruthie fetish... then again, I am overawed by the beauty and presence of Eva Green. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 22:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Impressive. Most impressive. - t'shaél chat 22:49, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You think that's brilliance. What about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spongefrog (talk • contribs)

Wikipedian of the Day
Congratulations, Vicenarian! For your kindness to others, your hard work around the wiki, and for being a great user, you have been awarded the "Wikipedian of the Day" award for today, July 10, 2009! Keep up the great work! Note: You could also receive the "Wikipedian of the Week" award for this week!

Happy editing!

Midnight Comet 00:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much! It's nice to be appreciated. Happy editing to you! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 02:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

I've been adopted !!
Know what, guys ? I've just been adopted by Dylon620(yes, the one and the same).Rkr1991 (talk) 13:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Welcome to the "team." :-) Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:36, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Didn't you get adopted by Dylan620? Or was it T'Shael, I can't tell you apart. Spongefrog,   (talk to me, or else)  21:01, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, you aren't the only one having difficulty telling us apart. We actually BOTH got adopted by Dylan620. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 21:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, yeah, we're one big WikiFamily. :D t'shaél chat 22:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Help?
Hi Vicenarian, I got a message from you here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:97.65.82.99#June_2009 And I never made those changes! Is it possible my account was hacked? I'm really lost and don't know what to do. Thanks! Herbsandspices (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi there. Since that's an IP editor, there's no account hacking. If you have an IP used by others, it's very possible that it was someone else who made those edits. Anyone who reaches Wikipedia from that IP while not logged in could receive messages intended for others who have used that IP for mischief. (If no one else should be on your IP, it's possible someone has spoofed your IP or stolen your connection, but that's beyond my expertise.) The best way to avoid messages not for you is to do what you have done - create an account and log in. As long as you edit from your account and keep your password secure, you shouldn't receive any alarming messages. Hope this helps. Cheers, Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 17:47, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I have only ever made one change to Wikipedia, so my 120 day login must have expired, and I didn't ever log back in. Scary!Herbsandspices (talk) 18:07, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Likely so - your login is saved for a maximum of 30 days. When you first surfed to the page, the messages that popped up were for your IP, not you. But welcome back! I hope you enjoy editing; let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks much for your help - I'm working with my IT group to get to the bottom of this. Herbsandspices (talk) 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Ask and you shall receive
t'shaél chat 01:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Best. Present. EVER. :) Thanks, buddy! Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 18:02, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha, no problem. I was going to random user pages the other day and noticed that and thought that you may like it. :) Best, t'shaél chat 20:43, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Sock puppetry again
Hi there again Vicenarian! Do you think you could help me? I think Orsahnses is playing the sockpuppet game again. Their IP was recently blocked. I'm most certain that this Orsahnses evading their block again with the reason that their edit summaries and personal attacks are similar and the fact that the IP's are very similar. History. It seems that I've found another account used by Orsahnses, it's Orceous, and they were performing edits during the ban. The thing that I need help is what really to do since the case was already marked as archived. Elockid (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, 's block has expired, so it isn't clear-cut sock puppetry to evade a block. Unfortunately, I don't see enough evidence to link the blocked IP. However, I do suspect that Orsahnses = and that he is trying to "start clean" with a new username. This is technically allowed. However, if Orceuos does start engaging in an edit war along the same line as Orsahnses, evidence of their similarity could be used to ask for a stricter sanction. But we assume good faith, so I hope that Orceuos will engage in constructive editing and discuss controversial changes instead of warring.  Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 13:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. I do hope that they discuss over the talk page for consensus. But judging from previous actions, it does not seem like it. Elockid (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, as I say, assume good faith, but when that faith is violated... Vicenarian  <sup style="font-family:Georgia;">(T · C) 14:01, 13 July 2009 (UTC)