User talk:Vickytsakas

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Arvanitika addition
Hi! I wanted to drop a note about the addition to the page for Arvanitika. I've reverted it for the time being for a few reasons, which I'll go into below.

The first thing that I noted was that the addition was sourced to this Weebly page. Because Weebly makes their website building programs so user friendly, a very wide variety of people use the site - including people who may not be considered authorities on a topic. I looked over the site but I couldn't see anything about the person who created the site or anything that showed that it received the type of editorial oversight that Wikipedia requires of reliable sources. This Weebly page looked to have grammatical errors and it seems like it borrowed heavily from the Wikipedia articles, as the brief history page was taken almost word for word from the History of Albania page. Because anyone can edit Wikipedia, Wikipedia isn't able to source itself and places that copy Wikipedia would fall under that guideline as well. Don't worry if you didn't catch this - it's not something that would really stand out to most people.

The other thing is that the content you added was a little casually written, so it just needs to be tightened up a little to fit the flow of Wikipedia. It does need sourcing, but you should be able to use the sourcing in the main page for Arvanites - although I do recommend looking over those sources to ensure that it states the claims you'd be adding to the article. You could try doing something like this: (you can use this content if you like)
 * "In the past Arvanitika had sometimes been described as "Graeco-Albanian" and the like (e.g., Furikis, 1934), although today many Arvanites consider such names offensive, they generally identify nationally and ethnically as Greeks and not Albanians. This self-identification has been attributed to the assimilation of Arvanites into Greek society, stemming from the Arvanites sharing a common Orthodox Christianity religion with the Greeks and fighting alongside them during the Greek War of Independence and the Greek Civil War."

Feel free to tweak that as needed, of course! The portions of the Arvanites article I took content from used the following cites, so make sure to verify these before using anything I wrote above. Of course you should also search for stuff on your own, but this would be a good place to start.


 * Hall, Jonathan M. Ethnic Identity in Greek Antiquity. Cambridge University Press, 2000, p. 29, ISBN 0-521-78999-0

I don't want you to think that this means that you did anything majorly wrong - adding this information would be extremely helpful. This is mainly just stuff that is easy to miss when you're first starting out. :) (Confession time: this is better than what I did when I first began editing Wikipedia many years ago - some of the stuff I tried to do and the sources I used are actually kind of embarrassing.) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:25, 15 June 2017 (UTC)