User talk:Victorchief74

November 2010
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia.

I noticed that your user page may not meet Wikipedia's user page guideline. If you believe that your userpage does not violate our guidelines, please leave a note here and we can discuss it. As an alternative, you may add  to the top of the page in question and an administrator will delete it, or you can simply edit the page so that it meets Wikipedia's userpage guidelines. Please note that any editor may blank the page per wp:userpages. Thank you. BC talk to me  16:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

What exacltly is my copyright infringement? Shouldn't you have to explain why you have made such an accusation without explainig yourself. This article is created as a guidleline about a future article in which I would like to post. I understood that this was "my" homepage and wasn't for public critisism. I am an employee of Tourism Calgary and the information provided is general knowledge to all its employess and the photo taken was taken by myself. Seens how you have asked for a speedy deletion, then I expect a speedy responce.


 * I placed this warning because the text was promotional in nature. As it turns out, it was also a copyright violation (hence the speedy deletion request). Your copyright violation is the blatant copying of text from a website. It doesn't matter whether you are associated with the site or not. Promotional material is also not permitted in Wikipedia. This is not your homepage, it is your "userpage", and although it is not a true "article" in Wikipedia's mainspace, there are strict rules about posting inappropriate material there. Therefore you cannot place copyrighted information, promotional material, or other inappropriate material on your userpage. I was not the one who asked for speedy deletion, by the way. I would have if I had realized right away that it was a copyright violation as well as promotional. Please read the information provided in your welcome message about writing articles. -- BC talk to me  02:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Victorchief74


A tag has been placed on User:Victorchief74 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a clear copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Requesting copyright permission. You might want to look at Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Goodvac  ( talk ) 05:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Page
Why can't I seee the article I wrote to see what it is I did wrong? The only thing I can think of is I copy and pasted a peice of information from my companies website which is general knowledge to all employees. The article subject is Tourism in Calgary in which I am a knowledgable source. If I retype the information in my own words, then that would change our mission statement and what is released publicly goes against company policy. Or perhaps instead of copying and pasting the info I should have typed it in manually? I am upset at the fact that someone can delte my homepage article without consulting the writer. This article was not posted for publis viewing or I would have posted it directly to Wikipedia. As instructed in the user guide, I put it their so my staff can help review and edit it before it was posted. Victorchief74 (talk) 17:57, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry for your misunderstanding but you did post it to Wikipedia, just not to mainspace. Talk pages are also part of Wikipedia and subject to rules. Your article was a copyright violation and we take those very seriously. It was also advertising for one entity, not adhering to a neutral point of view which is a basic tenet of Wikipedia. You are also acknowledging a conflict of interest which is a concern. Your comment: "If I retype the information in my own words, then that would change our mission statement and what is released publicly goes against company policy", says that you do not seem to understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a means of promotion. Maybe you should read the Business FAQ which might help you to understand a little more. -- Alexf(talk) 18:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand your point, so its ok if someone writes about the Visitor Centre as long as they are not associated with the organization and they have permission from Tourism Calgary to cite any information. I wasn't promoting, I was informing visitors to Calgary from around the world where and how they can recieve free information. Similar to the article "Millet and District Museum, Archives and Visitor Information Centre". I was just following what they had written about their free public service. Also, perhaps you can also clarify what copyright infringement I have made, please be specific and don't link me to another article, that's no way to answer a question. Are you here to help people using Wikipedia? Or, just to enforce rules and discourage users.

Thank you.
 * To answer your questions: It is ok if someone else writes as long as the article is sourced and cited and the sources are verifiable. Permission of Tourism Calgary is irrelevant here. If the text is copyrighted, then by definition permission is not implicitly granted, therefore it cannot be in Wikipedia. Anything posted in Wikipedia can, and will be edited, copy edited, and refactored, so it is almost guaranteed that it will not stay the way it was originally written. "Informing visitors where and how to receive free information" is not a welcome addition as it is promotion and contrary to the goals of Wikipedia. As for copyrights, anything copied verbatim from their website is not acceptable as stated. See about Donating copyrighted materials for the exception. The page that the original text came from, clearly stated in the deletion notice (by another admin), was: http://www.visitcalgary.com/about-tourism-calgary I am trying to help you understand our rules. Our duties as admins are to enforce the rules, not to discourage. The welcoming committe gave you a nice banner at the top, chok-full of good advice and excellent starting points already. You have to understand that in an encyclopedia that anyone can write, there has to be rules. Please remember to sign your posts in talk pages with four tildes (~) in the future. Have a good day. -- Alexf(talk) 18:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)