User talk:Vidaesperros

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Speedy deletion nomination of Smart Mountaineering Club


A tag has been placed on Smart Mountaineering Club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a club, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  Acroterion   (talk)   16:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Smart Mountaineering Club


A tag has been placed on Smart Mountaineering Club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. AllyD (talk) 13:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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I have a good faith on you Excirial
Hola Excirial,

I'm Antonia, I know you're a busy guy. Like really really busy. I'm sorry If I have a lots of questions, bear with me here. So here's my story, I've tried to submit a article about a Mountaineering Org based in Philippines in which gives a lot of help in doing community services and environmental protection activities. But unfortunately, just like you said, it can't be approved yet (yes yet, hehehe! I'm gonna do my best to know what seems to be the problem so that I can improve it and wiki will accept it someday) And I'm really really hopeful.(= Can I asked btw what should I need to do? It maybe silly but I think this org deserves to be recognized not only in Philippines but worldwide as well. This org is not just a hiking club but played such importance in environmental protection awareness as well, always ready to provide a hand in every help we can offer for our country. It's been 8 years and it's still growing. Aside from the fact also that one of its members Mon Dysangco was part of Mt Aconcagua (Argentina) Team expedition last year. It will always be a joy and pride for our country, knowing that Philippines is only a 3rd world country yet they still manage to give our country something to be proud of.

I've seen mountaineering clubs here in wiki. It inspired me to this one. I know, I know that SMC just started in year 2004 unlike any other hiking organizations, they've been here like forever. But can't you give a young blood org like SMC a chance to be published? =D I've tried to insert links as well wherein SMC was recognized in any activities, internationally or locally.

Here's the link to the page >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Smart_Mountaineering_Club

Btw, i like your username. It's pretty catchy, but I must admit hard to pronounce for me =D

Thank you for reading my silly rant. Hope to hear from you soon. Oh and thank you for reviewing my article as well and letting me know that it needs a lot of improvement. I'm challenge to do everything for it to be published. Whatever it takes.

xoxo, Antonia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vidaesperros (talk • contribs) 02:30, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Hiyas there Antonia,


 * I think that the best possible place for me to hook into, is the "but I think this org deserves to be recognized not only in Philippines but worldwide as well" line you wrote above. In terms of what deserves a page, Wikipedia can be a bit counter intuitive if one writes an article the first time. The issue is that Wikipedia´s translation of "deserving" equals that the subject of an article is notable enough for encyclopedic inclusion, and that this notability can be sourced using reliable sources. From a purely encyclopedic stance it doesn't matter what the subject of the article is, as long as it can pass those criteria. Hence, a serial killer might be notable while a philanthropist is not, and a comic book character might have its own page while a band doesn't. Actually, everything that matters is passing the importance criteria, no matter how noble the subject of an article might be.


 * Having said that, i would also point out that the age of a group doesn't necessarily factor into this, as long as it can pass the notability criteria. But enough generic pointers, lets have a look at the Smart Mountaineering Club article in specific. The first issue with it, is that it doesn't contain a real claim to notability - see WP:NCORP for that. Notability is generally achieved if an article can be reliably sourced with multiple independent sources of sufficient size, which pass the WP:42 criteria. I see you provided sources, but those are mostly passing mentions of SMC, rather then covering them in depth. The few sources that do give more then a passing mention, have issues with the "Sufficient size" criteria, since they are mostly websites that few people will have heard from.


 * The above is mostly the main issue with the article - what i always advice in these cases is doing a sanity check on whether or not the pages subject can pass these criteria. Sometimes a subject is notable and needs work, but other times it just won't pass, no matter what. I always dislike seeing people spend a great amount of time rewriting a page over and over, while it will never pass the notability criteria. If you are not certain, first try and find some reliable sources and ask if those would be passable, then write an article based on those if they do (And if they don't pass, you will at least save yourself from spending loads of time rewriting a page) Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 22:05, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Smart Mountaineering Club concern
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Your article submission Smart Mountaineering Club


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 14:46, 28 November 2013 (UTC)