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Lybra
Hi, I have reverted Your edits on Lancia Lybra article. Reasons: Business and Emblema are not special editions. You inserted 3 same pictures that were not on original alloy wheels. Article does not need any major work. YBSOne (talk) 16:40, 25 April 2019 (UTC) http://www.bozhdynsky.com/cars/lancia-lybra/ please check out my website on Lybra. YBSOne (talk) 16:54, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi!

First of all. That wheels are original alloy wheels, only for the Lybra. Very rare, but original (only in Italy).

And! The Business and the Emblema are special editions. Open the EPER, and please check that. Executive, Intensa, Business (only in two colors, and two engine), and Emblema (Elegance) are SS (Serie Speciale). LS, LX, LS Plus not special editions. I know that website, but i found soum fake information.

The Emblema not top of the range model, -> Bose, Xenon, electronic lumbar support, GPS/GSM, nivomat, heated seats, folding mirrors, rain sensor, etc are optional. So! Please make it back the article.

Thank you!


 * Yes the wheels were offered, clearly. But the rest in untrue. Find Lancia at the 28th Bologna Motor Show, 02.12.2003 in http://www.bozhdynsky.com/cars/lancia-lybra/lybra-press-releases/. They go through a Lybra range of versions. Eper sometimes shows versions that dont exist (ie BN 1750 16V 130CV 96KW E3 SS. ELEGANCE) or are just named as a name-saver mainly because Lybra was not facelifted and so the couldnt add new version codes-names as they usually do. Those editions are not special editions. http://www.bozhdynsky.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/business-ls-lx-emblema04.jpg Here You have a range of trims from bottom Business to top Emblema, clearly. Just trims not special editions. YBSOne (talk) 18:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Why you thinking the Emblema model are top of the range model? (You insert one pictures, is that not evidence, only your subjective opinion, not fact). You think the Emblema just trims, why available lot of optional extra. And Intensa? GPS/GSM (optional), Cruise Control (optional), heated seats (optional), rain sensor, demister sensor and photocromatic mirror (optional), folding mirrors (optional), CD changer (optional).

The Business not trim level. For Business model dont have optional extra. Only choose from two color, and two engine, no more. Plastic rims cover, 4 electronic windows, 6 airbag, foglights and the other base equipment. Similar like the Emblema, 2 interior material, and two color in inside, one alloy wheels, and you choose some extras (like the Intensa) Tha LS and LX are the trims, and you have lot of combinations, colors, wheels, materials and equipments.

On Lybra every mounth make a facelift :D (Italians -_-). (new foglights, new dashboard, new suspension parts, new frame elements (top of the rear doors, front and rear windows), new seat frame (magnesium), new rear door panels, two new grill in the front bumper, new rubbers around the doors and pillars, new material in the trunk, refresh the ICS, change tha buttons, pillar carpets (new shape), cealing carpet, and hat-rack, new amplifier (the connections not compatible with the old version), change almost all connection in inside (airbags, mirrors, steering wheels, heating box etc.)

So, you think the italians, and the Eper not correct, only your information. Of course!

Emblema model have 1.8 16v engine, but not for all market. (like 1.8 16v Intensa, only for Nederland.) Same thing like the electronic heating radiator in the heating box, not available for all markets.

I have 3 Lybra (and one more for spare parts), and lot of documents for the Lybra.

I know you know everything about the Lybra, but please trust me, i am not an idiot.

(Hill holder missing from your site, and Verde Veronese for Intensa, E3 1.6 different engine, bigger stroke, and smaller bore with different exhaus sistem. Lybra Protecta not available 2.4 JTD)

Good night!


 * 1. Business is a trim level. Trims does not have to have any options it is not it's definition. Trims are easily available and not exclusive nor limited. Business has 5 options in total http://www.bozhdynsky.com/lancia-lybra-2004-range-brochure/. Seems that Business was available only with 156 Dark Grey Cloth.
 * 2. Emblema has 36 standard fittings against 33 of LX trim. Probably if I searched for pricing it would also be the most expensive. It is also available with the top engines; from petrol only 2.0 and LX also in 1.8.
 * 3. Intensa and Executive have either a press release or a brochure informing they are exclusive editions.
 * 4. Lybra has only one overall code SX LYBRA BZ (1999-2005) and SY LYBRA DS (1999-2005) for whole production run, so there is no facelift code (example: RY DEDRA BENZINA (1989-1994); SL DEDRA FL.94 1580-1750 8/16V 2000 (1994-1999) ) Lybra was not facelifted, that's why they added MVS codes later in production as SS Business and SS Elegance (Not SS Emblema weirdly)
 * 5. http://www.bozhdynsky.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Lancia-Lybra-Intensa-2002-23.jpg; Verde Veronese is not in the brochure, so if it existed it's a special order.
 * 6. Lybra Protecta 2.4 JTD MVS: 109.038.1.0 BN 2400 JTD E3 LX BLINDATA (this may be an eper error or not) YBSOne (talk) 20:43, 25 April 2019 (UTC)