User talk:VilaChung

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I notice you created a page about the Lemon City Library. Nice article. Great job for someone who seems new at Wikipedia. But, if you read the article about the Miami Dade Public Library you will see that the Lemon City Library is considered the second public library in the county.

Again, welcome! GroveGuy (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, GroveGuy! Nice to meet you, and thanks for your encouragement and help.

I'm honestly not sure how to proceed on the discrepancy between the Miami Dade Public Library system page and the Lemon City Branch page.

The MPLS Wiki page cites a broken reference that has since been revised by the library system on their "About Us" page. They write, "The Library System as we know it today began with the Lemon City Reading Room in 1894 followed soon after with the Cocoanut Grove Reading Room in 1895."

What do you suggest?

Thanks!

VilaChung (talk) 15:25, 21 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello VilaChung; my suggestion would be to update the Miami-Dade Public Library System with the newer information (and the corresponding source) to the effect that the Lemon City reading room was first, followed by Cocoanut Grove, which was the first to build a dedicated library building. If you're concerned that your changes may prove controversial (which they shouldn't, given the source), you can leave an explanation at the talk page so others can follow your rationale. Huon (talk) 15:58, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Great suggestions! Thanks again for all your help, Huon!

VilaChung (talk) 00:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I disagree. A reading room, whatever that might be, is not the same as a purpose built library building. The MDPL article as it now stands is correct. -GroveGuy (talk) 02:29, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I see you have changed the MDPL article. In doing so you support your change with Miami Herald articles by Karantsalis and Santiago. Unfortunately I can't see these articles. Can you tell me how you can see these articles? Thanks, GroveGuy (talk) 02:54, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi GroveGuy. In addition to the Miami Herald articles you mentioned (retrievable through the MDPLS), I'm basing the change on what is provided by the Miami-Dade Public Library System, themselves, on their recently revised "About Us" webpage, under "History", that was cited as well. I don't personally, nor professionally as a MLIS student, understand why a library can only legitimately exist in a "purpose built library building". If it's a matter of semantics, I definitely won't be offended if you feel it necessary to modify either the Lemon City Branch Library or the MDPLS article as you see fit in support of the entire body of research.

Thanks for your input,

VilaChung (talk) 17:23, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to see the Karantsalis and Santiago articles on line? You say they are "retrievable through the MDPLS" but I looked and can't find them. In the book Lemon City by Thelma Peters there is a section about the library. She describes the school library begun by Ada Merritt and then says "There is no evidence that there was any library in Lemon City other than this school library before the organization of the library association in 1902." I think the history on the MDPL site is wrong too. GroveGuy (talk) 02:01, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

GroveGuy, when you go on the MDPLS site, go to: Quick Links > Databases > Magazines & Newspapers > Miami Herald. You'll need your library card number and pin number. The Miami News article I cited is available online through Google Books. If you feel it may be wrong, it might be worth contacting MDPLS and finding out why they recently revised their history and based on what research/references. As it stands, the articles could be revised to reflect this discrepancy in research and dates. VilaChung (talk) 03:05, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
 * VilaChung - thanks for the info on the Miami Herald articles. I looked at both of them and believe they are simply quoting misinformation they got somewhere. Probably from the Lemon City branch itself. But the crux of the problem is the MDPL website. I will find out about that. Also problematical is the Carnegie story. Don't believe that one for an instant! - GroveGuy (talk) 09:08, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, GroveGuy. Okay, sounds good. Hope it can all get resolved. VilaChung (talk) 14:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)