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Kontribisyon nan pwojè Dikyonè an
Bonjou,

Mwen administratè nan wikipedya ak wikisource ayisyen.

Mwen ap kontinye pwojè wiksyonè kreyòl Ayisyen (haitian creole wiktionary) nan adrès sa a :
 * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wt/ht

Pou pwojè sa a valide konplètman, nou bezwen ke ou ede nou kreye vokabilè yo epi definisyon yo. Yo te mèt senp, se pa anpil bagay. Administratè yo vle wè ke pwojè sa a kapab bout toutbon.Mwen ap diskite ak gwo toro Steward ak administratè yo pou yo ouvè yon Wiktionary toutbon nan paj sa a : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Haitian_Creole

Mwen mande nou sèlman edite chak fwa nou vini, yon ti mo, yon ti pawòl nan wiksyonè a. Mete lyen an nan paj itilizatè ou.

Mwen komanse yon ti fòm pou fasilite edisyon nou yo. Ou mèt gade li nan paj sa a : ht:Itilizat%C3%A8:Masterches/lis_wiksyon%C3%A8

Kouman nou ap fè
Ki jan pou nou fè ? (rezon an se paske anpil pwojè ap devlope epi wt/+kòt lang peyi, lè pwojè a aksepte, tout rasin wt/ht ap bouje nan rasin paj pwojè a, dirèkteman bouki  plito ke  wt/ht/bouki  )
 * enskri ou nan paj wikimedya a si ou poko genyen yon kont nan wikimedya : http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup&returnto=Translation_teams/ht
 * ale nan paj sa a, kite yon avi : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Haitian_Creole
 * gade paj prensipal an : http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wt/ht
 * Tout mo yo ap komanse pa "wt/ht/" : pa egzanp, si ou vle defini "bouki", ou ap chache "wt/ht/bouki"
 * ou mèt gade paj mwen an pou kèk egzanp epi yon modèl definisyon pou fasilite kontribisyon nou yo nan paj sa a : ht:Itilizat%C3%A8:Masterches/lis_wiksyon%C3%A8
 * kite mesaj ak diskisyon nan paj yo, kite mesaj nou si nou genyen kèk pwoblèm ekri mwen nan paj mwen : ht:itilizatè:Masterches
 * ...mèsi ankò ! Ede mwen kreye wiksyonè sa a, nou kapab fè li ! Nou kapab devlope li !

Pou tout kesyon, mande mwen san kraze tèt ou.


 * http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wt/ht

Gade zye tou nan lòt pwojè yo, tankou :
 * haitian creole wikiquote : http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wq/ht (diskisyon sou li :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiquote_Haitian_Creole)
 * haitian creole wikisource : http://ht.wikisource.org

Tradiksyon (en)
Tradiksyon pou tout moun konprann byen

Contribution in the devloppment of the haitian creole wiktionary

Hi,

I'm admin in Haitian creole wikipedia and wikisource. I'm continuing the devlopment of the future haitian creole wiktionary. I'd like it to be a place where all questions of vocabulary could be solve quickly. Many of us are looking for a correct definition, vocabulary,sentence, or a large source of information concerning a word but remain disappointed due to lack of this information.

I'd like to invite you to contribute to the devlopment of this project. It's currently under aproval because we need contributors for editing the beta version (at http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wt/ht ). The discussions with the admins are at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Haitian_Creole.

your first contribution could be very short, that's not a problem (for instance "Frans se yon peyi" will be sufficient for the first definition for France)

How to do it ?
 * first login or create an account on meta-wiki at : http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&type=signup&returnto=Translation_teams/ht
 * let your opinion about this project at : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Haitian_Creole
 * start by the homepage : http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/wt/ht
 * in this beta version inside incubator, all the words have to start with "wt/ht", for example, if you want to create "bouki", you will search for "wt/ht/bouki"
 * you can look at my page for some examples and templates which would make your contribution easier : List of examples

thank you for your contribution.

You can contact me if any problems at : MasterChes

See also all that is working out :
 * haitian creole wikiquote : http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wq/ht (diskisyon sou li :http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikiquote_Haitian_Creole)
 * haitian creole wikisource : http://ht.wikisource.org



--Masterches (talk) 17:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Spain 1931
There was no revolution, as generally understood, in 1931. Elections led to a shifting of power, the king left, discussions over a new constitution followed blah blah..The quote from eb was chosen for dramatic effect? POV? , I dunno, from the anticlericalism article in the eb. I suppose, from that very limited perspective, there was a 'revolution', a shifting of power, but that perspective is not the relevant one in the article here, this is not an article on 'anticlericalism'. A wider, more encompassing perspective is appropriate. Thats how I see it anyways. I'm sure it'll keep changing though, I'm used to POV now.au revoir. Sayerslle (talk) 13:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * yep. o.k - there are a lot of tags in the section, for what should be straightforward things like dates, so the tags should be got rid of ideally, - its hard to clarify except at maybe too much length for the section, the to and fro over the constitution following municipal elections etc.. I've got some books on Spain in these years, I think academic books on the subject, not e.b. articles on anticlericalism are better source material. Like you I'm curious about who wrote it - a religious POV seems to be at work in the choice of word 'revolution' but maybe I'm reading too much into it. Sayerslle (talk) 17:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * the bits from e.b, the anti-clericalism article, are just that, not  written in stone, not un-deletable, who the heck said you can't delete a referenced sentence if it is misleading, or garbage, or weighted, or unclear, or whatever..- the fact that the section highlights anti-clericalism is because  some editors want to highlight that aspect, again, it isn't written in stone, the quote from gallardo about the mothers words - it's a question of what one likes to read, I like 'colour' and details like that, others don't . In the end you seem to think the e.b words are to be treated like gospel, that we received from the hands of the prophet Mmamlujo, and I think the use of the word'revolution' is bizarre here, and misleading, and perhaps appropriate to an article on anticlericalism article, but this isnt an article on anticlericalsim..THERE WAS NO BLEEDIN REVOLUTION, o.k.  - there were municipal elections that were regarded as a kind of plebiscite on the constitutional future of Spain - no shots were fired,  the republican alliance took 45 of Spains 52 provincial capitals - the king left spain on 14 april. In the end if you say 'you cannot remove a word with a ref. from the e.b.' well, i do not agree avec vous, o.k.. Sayerslle (talk) 19:02, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * 'Spain had a revolution - through a municipal election' hhhmmmm. Thats clear. In the end, I believe you are POV yourself you see, and are being disingenuous here, sorry thats how I am, failing AGF too...Sayerslle (talk) 11:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)