User talk:Vipimp3

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MitchellWiggs (talk) 07:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, someone please help me with this. I wrote the original article titled "Mitchell Wiggs" on a notable entertainer, mostly in the south florida area. Since then, my article has been included in a "speedy deletion", then was told the artist was not notable or newsworthy, so i fixed the article noting numerous accomplishments by the artist, then i am told that i have some sort of conflict of interest because someone thinks i am Mitchell Wiggs (i am not). I am quite confused at this point because i tried to respond to the person who said there was a conflict of interest, and because wiki lists no contact information for these administrators, i am forced to reply either vie editing an article and putting symbols or some sort of key word asking a question, or by creating a talk page with somebody. I am very confused, and only created an account to be able to write an article on this artist i mentioned above. At this point, i was told my previous question (asking for reconsideration of the un-deletion of the article) is considered nonsense or gibberish and i am being given some type of code that says so. Whoever is reading this, whether it be an administrator, wiki employee, or just a more experienced wiki user, please help me in trying to get this information to the right person, clear up any confusion, and just get this article published. I don't at all understand the signature thing, surrounding a name with lines or dashes or equal signs so i apologize.

MitchellWiggs (talk) 07:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey there. The article was deleted by User:CactusWriter. If you want to contact him, I suggest you to go to his talk page and leave a message. Wikipedia is very strict about writing articles of living persons. Did your article have references? If so, were they from a reliable source? I suggest you to have a look at these pages: WP:BIO, WP:BLP and WP:MOSBIO. I unfortunately cannot see the deleted article, so it is hard for me to tell what was wrong with it. Usually it is lack of references that show that the person is notable.  Ilyushka88   talk  07:45, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You can do i however you like. I recommend writing here though as it is easier to follow conversation on a single page.  Ilyushka88   talk  08:02, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok great. Let me just say i'm so grateful to be speaking to a person who can help navigate me lol. Well about the Mitchell Wiggs article, i had not listed references, since im not sure what to list? Pretty much a lot of the information was learned through the bio on his websites, school publications, news broadcasts, etc. not necessarily things i think i would be able to refrence? The main issues came because they said he wasn't a notable artist, and then because they thought i was Mitchell, or affiliated with him and that created a conflict of interest. Then someone posted a "self promotion" article on my talk page lol. The admin's page says hes on vacation or something until the end of the month so im not sure what to do...I never thought making an article would be so complicated lol

MitchellWiggs (talk) 08:27, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Mitchell Wiggs
Vpimp3, the article User:Vipimp3/Mitchell Wiggs was userfied per your request so that you could add reliable references and demonstrate this person's notability. Unfortunately, after one month the article still remains without any references and provides nothing to verify any assertions of notability. This is unacceptable for any Wikipedia article, and especially for biographies of living people. I have now moved the article to Article Incubator/Mitchell Wiggs to allow a final chance to add significant sources. If you have questions concerning this, please ask. — Cactus Writer |   needles  16:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

This has blown completely out of control...even the picture i took of Mitchell Wiggs was deleted because it said i couldn't prove it was mine? Im not sure i see the point of wiki if it is completely impossible to create a page about something or someone, all of the information is accused of being incorrect and it is just a series of people removing and deleting whatever you post. Now i try to come back to the page i created and it has been deleted? What am i supposed to do now?


 * We understand your concern Vipi. But let me explain a little about the situation here. Wikipedia has some rules regarding the article creation. First of all, to create the article about any person, you should prove that this person is notable. I mean, this person has to be known to a wider public. This is to ward off any junk articles that some spammers may create. Take me for example. I am an ordinary bloke. I cannot have an article on myself because i am neither notable to people nor i have done any notable feat (I wish) that may have made me notable.
 * Secondly, the article you create should have references from reliable sources. For example you may give citations from newspapers, books, reliable websites (like BBC etc.) to prove that what you've written on that article is factually right. Have a look at the featured articles. They are very good examples of this. Have a look at Stanley Goble. I've never heard of this guy before. But he is notable since he served as Chief of air staff. There are also references provided at the end of each article for credibility of information. I googled about Mitchell Wiggs and there any plenty of links out there. You can pick some reliable links out of them and put them on that article so to prove the notability of Mitchell Wiggs. That's it. Few reliable references and you article stays. So if you've any further questions, you can chat with us live here, or you can put another helpme tag or you can drop any message on my talk page. I hope i've explained satisfactorily. —  Hamza  [ talk ]  10:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I am sorry to say that i googled a lot but cannot find any reliable sources for him. There are links to his facebook, myspace and twitter. Which are not enough to make him notable. There is also his list on eventful.com but that either is not reliable. Just wait a little till he makes some notable news and you can grab that for source. Or if you can find his reference in any local florida newspaper, that may count too. —  Hamza  [ talk ]  10:43, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok i do understand. So all i have to do is wait until there is information in a newspaper and put that in the article. Is there a way i can at least keep the article i have created so far so i dont have to start from scratch again? I'm not sure if you will get a notification of me writing you back on here though, not sure if wiki works that way lol? Vipimp3 (talk) 06:22, 15 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I am sincerely sorry for not keeping track of this page. It's good to see that you are beginning to understand the concerns raised by wikipedia editors. I am sorry to say that the article may have already been deleted. You may request the deleted article from any admin. He/she can retrieve it for you. You can keep it in your sandbox or any sub-page of yours, if you want to. If i had been in your place, i'd keep the article in my subpage or sandbox and keep adding references to it. And when it had been wiki-worthy, i would've pasted it to original article.

Also, usually people are not notified that they've been replied on somebody else's talk page. So feel free to drop me a reminder if i become lazy enough to check back :) . —  Hamza  [ talk ]  04:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)