User talk:VirenVaz/Archive2

Thanks
Dear Viren, thank you so much for your kind words and guidance. I am a newcomer, and it will take me a while to get used to Wiki. I was just browsing and saw that there are so few photographs on the site with regard to Indian Butterflies. I am a bit crazy about photographing them and have photos of most of them, and this can be seen on my site, Butterflies of Karnataka so that you can guide me how best I can help the site. Thank you. Santosh 16:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Progress report to mentor :-) on Papilionids
Hi, check out the latest look of the Papilionid species page List of Butterflies of India (Papilionidae). My overall progress on Papilionids can be found here. Hope you dont mind me calling you and Shyamal as mentors. AshLin 14:52, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Raw databases
Just to learn to make User pages I have put up two raw 10 yr old databases on foodplants of Papilionids for development of the Indian Palionidae project. Find the links on my user-page. AshLin 12:11, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

How to wikify
How do you know which words to wikify, do you have a master list? AshLin 04:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

A list of Authors
Have added a list of authors (describer of butterflies) noted from Evans. Hope it's of help. Thanks for indicating the correct place to put them ie User:VirenVaz/Taxonomists. I'll keep adding more as I find them. AshLin
 * Hi VirenVaz, I found this entomologist's page Herrich-Schäffer, you may want to include that page in your list of taxonomists, which I find very useful. --Carlosp420 03:15, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Another is James Wood-Mason Shyamal 04:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

My prodigal brother
Some tasks for you before we slaughter the fatted calf :-
 * Blue Mormon Papilio polymnestor written out. Need pictures. Search man! Network! Tomorrow Common Mormon.
 * Gray (author).
 * S. Igarashi.(low priority, could do)
 * Find Prince's uploads on Wikimedia and place them on user pages. Help organise his stuff in Wikimedia.
 * Catch the female Southern Birdwing. (I gave you a quick wiki; now she refuses to deliver?)

Regards, AshLin 10:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Delete the two categories bindaas from species pages
Had thought about it. Forgot to tell you. Yes, I agree. Go ahead and direct them to /dev/null. AshLin 09:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey dude, I dooded it. You now got a nimboo. Better picture it up good. Can we find snaps of - young 'bird dropping cat', older cat (see Kunte for illustration), pupa showing the pointed features well, and Nimboo bu laying eggs? I know, you'll say, what about the sun, moon and two thousand stars, thrown in for free. Will I get a vandalism stub for my langwij? AshLin 10:06, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

The Common Mormon is here
The Common Mormon is here, go get him, Tiger. You realise, he's been called Mormon because he has so many wives? Hoopydink has accepted our POV so I removed the merge link. TheAlphaWolf also gave nice response. I think I'll stand for student body elections ;).AshLin 05:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Good job on the slog work of Categorisation
Regards, AshLin 13:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC).
 * Boot camp, eh? Well done, recategorisation will give us better control. Time to move Princeps to Pailio now.
 * Now the cake is requesting decorating :). We're impatient for this page to get images and look good.
 * Thanks! You are a good editor (publishing context not wikipedia context). Had a critical relook at the Common Mormon, after a cooling off. I realised that the first write was not as good as I felt writing it. I had tons of typos, some bad language and that inedible sentance you pointed out. Interestingly, your comment helped me not only to simplify it, but also to structure it much better. * Have a look at the Indian Riodinids list page :) Hot off the frying pan.
 * Can't wait for your artistic placing of CM snaps from WM on the wiki. Have fun on the weekend.

Well done
Cool page, dude, we GOT content. Just another value-added snap or info from someone else and we'll blow the world away! Keep up the good work. Made a change in image placement. I award you ||||||, hay to put in you star barns ;). Comments please on Talicada nyseus. A complete rework with reworked image placement. Regards, AshLin 21:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Lepindex Pseudoborbo /Borbo bevani
You've got page titled Pseudoborbo and taxobox Borbo. Reconcile please.AshLin 16:32, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Princeps all gone, see the pap list now!
To celebrate your hard work in completing the Princeps to Papilio conversion, I have done up the Pap list. Look at it. Hope it motivates you to continue edits. Lepindex Rios please. See Rio list too. Which awesome edit did you mean? D chyrsippus mimcry para, my 'talk' on Brimstone or my complete new look to Stoliczzka? Regards, AshLin 20:27, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Libytheidae?
Dude, are you sure it exists separately? Check it out with Lepindex. If so only four species waiting for you to create a new list. Cut & paste ex Nymphalids. AshLin 16:26, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Good work, Dude
Great satisfaction. Sigh, one family taxo-sorted out. Let's fill in the stubs now! Nice work, keep it up. Hard slow, mind-boggling brainwork, I know. After the categorisation issue start with Pierids. Regards, Ashwin PS I'll send you a text dump of Markku Savela's Pierid list.

Binomial author
Hi Viren... just another compilcation. means that the Somegenus somespecies was first described by Linnaeus in 1790 by perhaps Someothergenus name means that Somegenus somespecies was first described by Linnaeus in 1790 by the same name. So the bracketing has more information and it should be retained as given in the source. Shyamal 06:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Somegenus somespecies (Linnaeus, 1790)
 * Somegenus somespecies Linnaeus, 1790
 * Sorry about all the trouble ! But here is the info - How_to_read_a_taxobox item 7. or Shyamal 07:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems fine now. Your combination change is a good rule as long as it is only when the genus part changed. Shyamal 11:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

According the Markku Savela page
 * C. c. alma Hopffer, 1874
 * Catasticta ctemene alma Hopffer, 1874;, TL: Bolivia
 * Catasticta albina Lathy & Rosenberg, 1912; Trans. ent. Soc. London, 59: (519-527), TL: Bolivia, Farinas

Now that says that Lathy and Rosenberg described a species that they called Catasticta albina in 1912 and the type locality was Bolivia. Type locality is where the type comes from. The Type is the reference specimen based on which the description is made. Now someone had earlier described a species called Catasticat ctemene also from Bolivia. And it has been subsequenty noted that the species albina described by Lathy and Rosenberg is the same as the earlier described C. ctemene. The older name takes priority and the species C. albina would be invalid. But look at Appias albina (Boisduval, 1836) It was originally described as Pieris albina hence Boisduval in brackets. And this came from the oriental region. In general we wouldnt have too many clashes with N&S American species. So if it was the Albatross it would be Appias albina (Boisduval, 1836). Hope this helps ! Shyamal 03:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Bingham text
Hi Viren, If you need any specific species description texts, I should be able to spend time to type it in from the Bingham Fauna of British India volume. I have added a selected few pieces already. I learnt for instance that the name dissimilis (in Chilasa clytia) is used not as a subspecies name but as a name for any dimorphic form. I wish I owned a full set of Fauna of British India's :( Shyamal 08:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
 * At the moment I can only do a little. But I think it really makes the articles a lot more useful. I feel that it is better to keep the original in one piece rather than to tear it up and incorporate it into the article. Shyamal 12:20, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Great edits by Viren Vaz

 * First entry, great idea changing to wide-open Lime image. Liked it AshLin 13:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Page is up
Dear Viren,

WikiProject Lepidoptera page is up. Request your vetting, reorganisation and knowledge addition.AshLin

Nice Cats in Tailed Jay
Nice pix, dude. Are they 'your' cats? AshLin 04:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * yup they're my 'babies'. Waiting for pupation. --Viren 04:53, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Moth stub approved
Go ahead now. We got three votes. I wrote on the proposal page that we are making the stub. So go ahead. Regards, AshLin 03:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Atlas moth renamed at your service.AshLin 07:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

List of Butterflies of South Asia
Seems ok. Shyamal 03:12, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

More images than you can throw a stone at!
Lotsa Lizards! AshLin 03:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it throw a stone at or shake a stick at?? --Viren 04:02, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Well done, dude
Now how about these fifty titles or words we discussed? AshLin 12:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nice Graphium agamemnon pupa image dude. I've searched for it all my life but never seen one before. AshLin 07:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

India related links
-- Pamri &bull; Talk 08:57, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Hello
Hi, thanks for the message. I will add my name to the Lepidoptera project and probably to the Arthropods one as well. There are FAR too many families without articles and I am intending to add as many as I can. I am also keen on adding more on parasitic Hymenoptera as they affect just about every other land arthropod and the coverage is a bit thin at the moment. I'm also doing some stuff on bird taxonomy so I am spreading myself a bit thin maybe! Feel free to drop me a line anytime. Richard Barlow 08:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting my user page! Iron C hris |  (talk) 20:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

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Descriptions
Hi Viren, it can be reformatted but descriptions are fairly formal and it is not easy to change it to anything easier. We could however move them to a separate section and add another quick identification section. So that only taxonomically minded people need read the description section. Bulleting the items makes it a little too long. But do try your experiments in reformatting them. Shyamal 03:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Big set of butterfly lifecycle images on queue
New stuff Keep an eye on this and use at will. Shyamal 04:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Image check
Please check if the image on Tirumala septentrionis (the gallery one ) is really of this species. If not feel it needs moving. It was marked as dark blue tiger, but I am unable to ascertain it. Shyamal 08:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Keys
Paris group
 * a. Fore wing underside : subterminal greyish-white hand sharply defined, narrow, of even width throughout P. krishna
 * b. Fore wing underside: subterminal greyish-white band not sharply defined, broad and gradually widened anteriorly.
 * a1 Hind wing upperside: without a subterminal series of claret-red lunules.
 * a2 Hind wing upperside: upper discal blue or green patch does not extend down to vein  P. paris
 * b2 Hind wing upperside: upper discal blue or   green   patch   larger, extends   down to vein 3 P. paris race tamilana
 * b1 Hind wing upperside with   a  prominent subterminal series of claret-red lunules P. arcturus

Bianor group
 * a. Fore wing upperside: with no trace of a sub-terminal glistening green band P. bianor
 * b. Fore wing upperside: with, a subterminal glistening green band, often more or less obsolescent anteriorly, but always indicated in the tornal region.
 * a1 Fore-wing underside: without any prominent internervular greyish-white streaks except just near tornus P. polyctor
 * b1 Fore wing underside: with very prominent internervular greyish-white streaks, short near tornus, but gradually longer towards costal margin P. polyctor race ganesa

Lifted from Bingham, valid for Indian region alone. May help. Shyamal 03:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Indian nymphalidae
I have done a first round of cleanup and removed all the surely extralimital species. I have retained some entries in html comments. Feel free to remove them as we go along. Shyamal 10:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)