User talk:Virg38

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If you find a problem with another editor, you should try to talk to them via their talk pages or the article talk page. if any problems persist, you can ask an admin to help resolve any dispute. good luck

Ryan shell (talk) 04:23, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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I was interested in Zamor and I read all of these discussions! It seems that nobody gives a real solution. Why this subject can not be sumited to the admin to resolve the dispute? The contributions from virg38 were not completely wrong...! It's a regrettable thing to classes Zamor just like an artist, because he is known in spanish like a American Historian with many important books about the 16th century; In french like a philosopher of art with his writens and books; Even as a swami with his Yoga's contributions, in his research of the "completeness" notion, as a human's dignity issues of life.--Notadicht (talk) 00:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Morning Thanks for your answer to my feedback I really don't understand what happened! My first question was about to rename the Zamor's URL page! And I better shouldn't say anything, because the changes they did are worst that it was! But they disccuss about another subject and don't want to resolve this. However if you don't want my contributions anymore I can retire myself. And, to be clear, I'm not Zamor's wife!!!!!! --Virg38 (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)--

Zamor issues
Morning. You should not removed maintenance templates, as you did here, without first addressing them. By either addressing the concerns they raise or gaining a consensus to remove it on the article walk page, Talk:Zamor (artist). Cheers,  Я ehevkor ✉  10:31, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

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I'm sorry for not answering you before, but i did not check your talk page for a while. You can report and problems to WP:ANI. If you need to talk to me directly, try my talk page, here. good luck editing

Ryan shell (talk) 02:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

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Zamor's Url discussions
Mr. Ryan shell Good Morning.

1.- I relate you here the discussion with the editor ?? (no signature)(discussion 1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Zamor_is_not_only_an_artist.2C_he_is_also_a_philosopher_and_historian I do some corrections here to explain better my thoughts

2.- And with Яehevkor (discussion 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zamor_(artist)

I don’t know if I must refer this to the Admin. I prefer to send you the link to my talk page before in order to give you all the elements. I hope it’s clear, otherwise I’m ready to send you any other documentation you need. Thanks for your concern. Virg38_

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1.- Zamor is not only an artist, he is also a philosopher and historian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Zamor_is_not_only_an_artist.2C_he_is_also_a_philosopher_and_historian _______________________________ Virg38_ I work on the edition of Zamor's pages in English, French, Italian and Spanish. However I’ve found a little problem with the Url nomination to distinguish another Zamor, Louis Benedict Zamor. Here is the problem: In French, Italian and Spanish, the URL to First Zamor page is: http://(es)(it)(fr)wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamor

But in the English version it’s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZAMOR (ZAMOR is writen in capitals).

The other Zamor, Louis Benedict, is "Zamor" (writen in lower case) in the English version’s Url, which is clearly confusing. I would like to work in the translation and advanced research about Louis Benedict Zamor, but it’s necessary to unify the URL in the first place. I recommend to set the URL “Zamor” in lower case, in the english's URL, to harmize it with the other translations of "Zamor Guillerm; Then, use “Zamor, Louis Benedict” to refer to the other page and keep this nomination for future translations.

Thanks for your regards --Virg38 (talk) 03:27, 2 January 2013 (UTC) 2 _______________________________ Editor

I have moved the article to Zamor (artist), added a hatnote to it, and moved the redirection to Zamor (disambiguation). Please note the following points that will help you in working in English: The usual English phrases for "majuscule" and "minuscule" are "capitals" (or "upper case") and "lower case". The French words exist in English, but many English speakers may not understand them. It is not customary in English to write surnames (noms) in capitals. Usually it does not matter, but here it has created a problem. _______________________________ Virg38_

I'm sorry but I disagree with the category "artist" included in the Url of Zamor, as he is not only an artist but also a philosopher, writer and historian. Before the Url was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZAMOR, and now is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamor_(artist)? That is more confusing as it was. He is much more referred to by the name "Zamor" than "Louis Benedict Zamor" is, and this one is his URL in the other Wikipedia translations (French, Italian and Spanish). I suggest leaving the capitals like it was before (ZAMOR) or preferably write only "Zamor" and replace "Louis Benedict Zamor", the French revolutionary, by the capital “ZAMOR”. Thanks.

I think I’ve made a mistake in the page itself and maybe here by erasing your "resolved". I'm sorry if that is not correct, but I didn't know how to do otherwise. --Virg38 (talk) 21:57, 2 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________ Editor It isn't a category, it's a disambiguation. See WP:DISAMBIGUATION. 216.93.234.239 (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________

Virg38_

I still disagree with this "disambiguation". But it seems that you don't want to accept the real reason of the discussion. I insist that “Zamor” is not only an artist but, also, a philosopher, writer and historian. He is more referred as "Zamor" than "Louis Benedict Zamor" is, and "Zamor" is the Wikipedia's URL already used for the other languages. I suggest leaving in capitals like it was before (ZAMOR) or preferably write only "Zamor" and replace the URL’s from the page of the French revolutionary, by “Louis Benedict Zamor”. --Virg38 (talk) 16:48, 3 _______________________________ New editors Done fixed the disambig. ;) Kayau Voting IS evil 08:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC) Actualy, French Wikipedia also has ZAMOR redirect – see fr:ZAMOR. --CiaPan (talk) 09:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________ _______________________________

2.- Re-write
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zamor_(artist) _______________________________ Яehevkor The language in the article is a mess, needs to be re-written, possibly from scratch. I had a go at fixing a bit, but not knowing what it's meant to say it's quite difficult. Яehevkor✉ 10:30, 3 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________ Virg38_ It's very strange your reaction! This article has more than two years in Wikipedia, and a lot of visits, and no-body has said a world about that mess!!! --Virg38 (talk) 16:28, 3 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________ Яehevkor Maybe no one tried to read it until now.. Яehevkor ✉ 19:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC) _______________________________ Virg38_ Like you erase the stats... there was almost 1000 visits by month!!!!! --Virg38 (talk) 02:24, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

RE:Zamor's Url discussions
Hello again. I read through your post and At this point i do not think anyone needs to be reported to WP:ANI. I don't know exactly what you are looking for, and i will not take a side in this argument, but it seems like you should work with any editor who finds a problem with your edits to figure out a good solution. cheers,Ryan shell (talk) 19:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

January 2013
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Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Zamor a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Zamor (artist) with this edit. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Widr (talk) 02:19, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Zamor (disambiguation) with this edit, you may be blocked from editing. Lugia2453 (talk) 02:21, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

I retire by myself. You are completely arbitrary. Do whatever you want. I stop my contributions--Virg38 (talk) 16:58, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for persistent disruptive editing. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. KTC (talk) 02:22, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you ar not incivility when you have changed ZAMOR by Zamor (artist) without consider all the arguments i told you before, politely. Firstly, Zamor is not only an artist; secondly the Zamor Luis Benedict article is really very poor and his "historical importance" is not consider as well in France! Thirdly Zamor is a Legal Brand registered. etc. etc. etc. And, to finish, I'm not banish by your decision, like I said up I: retire by myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virg38 (talk • contribs) 6:58, 12 January 2013‎
 * Perhaps this problem is now resolved, and I don't really take seriously. Just thought I should point it out to any admins monitoring this troublesome contributor, who finds outrage where there is none. The "dispute", after all, is simply a matter of whether there are other people named Zamor, thus requiring disambiguation. These include: a fascinating figure of the French revolution (Zamor, who may require further disambiguation, but whose article has existed under that title since 2008) and Oreste Zamor, who served briefly as the president of Haiti and has a stub needing development from the solid sources that exist. Pointing out that other Zamors of at least equal notability exist should not occasion the shrill incivility that Virg38 has directed at other editors, nor the chaotic edits without consensus. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:26, 12 January 2013 (UTC)