User talk:Viriditas/Ho’oponopono

WOW thanks Viritidas, this will get us started! The one thing I would ask is when you say it would be better to refer to Morrnah's and Hew's ideas rather than to them personally, most people who are looking for this info classify it by their names. Originally we had Morrnah Simeona's ho'oponopono but then took out ho'o since per the MOS the article's title is not supposed to be repeated. I guess we could call it Morrnah's "version" or "update" or something? Makana Chai (talk) 18:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. When I'm dealing with other articles, I usually come across a key idea or concept that a specific author has contributed and use that as a section heading.  Morrnah and Hew are both considered notable kahuna lapaau.  The article focuses on their approach to the practice, so why not integrate this approach and talk directly about what hooponopono is, and note the key concepts, attributing unique approaches to Morrnah and Hew - rather than talking about Morrnah and Hew?  The reader wants to know about hooponopono.  The biography information can be handled in another article. Viriditas (talk) 21:48, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hew is not a kahuna by any stretch of the imagination. In the Hawaiian community, it would be controversial to even include Hew in any discussion of hooponopono and for some including Morrnah is controversial. If I had my way I wouldn't even call what they do hooponopono but everyone else does so it is too late for me to create my perfect world. Agree that biography info can be handled elsewhere. I'd propose leaving section headings as is for now.Makana Chai (talk) 22:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You see? The article gave me the impression that they were both considered kahuna. I think you should trust your instincts on this one and attempt to maintain the accuracy and neutrality you envisage or more readers (like myself) will become confused.  I will therefore make an alternate proposal. :)  Stick with describing the beliefs, practices, and teachings and only discuss Morrnah and Hew in relation to these concepts, rather than highlighting them in separate section headings.  Viriditas (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Notes to Michael
Aloha Michael, I agree with Viriditas about the section on Morrnah - knowing that her philosophy is all one, yet I think it is important to just put her ho'o here, and put the rest in her other article. Would you be willing to start on that and I will work on the Polynesian antecedents and traditional practice? Makana Chai (talk) 18:21, 2 September 2009 (UTC)