User talk:Vis M/Archive 2

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Ionic polymer
First, thank you for your message of appreciation regarding adding the Polymers banner to many polymer article Talk pages.

Next, I've noticed you have edited the Ionomer article recently, and so you may be familiar with ionic polymers. Shall I move the Ionomer article to Ionic polymer, which is empty right now, or shall we keep Ionomer where it is and simply make Ionic polymer a Redirect to Ionomer? H Padleckas (talk) 04:35, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I am a bit confused. IUPAC Gold Book has different definitions (link). I will quote them here.


 * So, it appears that all ionomers are ionic polymers but the reverse is not always true. Hence proceeding with making ionic polymers as main article will be more preferred by Wpedia, I think. V ani s che nu mTalk 08:12, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your input. H Padleckas (talk) 10:53, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Speedy renaming of a category
Hello, Vanischenu. You have new messages at Black Falcon's talk page. --20:44, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

warm wishes
i am using wikipedia for many years. but editing is very new to me.

i was studied in Town Higher Secondary School

when i saw the comment "This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it." i felt bad.

so i added some info. but u ppl undo my data.

How to add colorful letters as u did for vanichenu talkm.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivasan.smart (talk • contribs) 11:45, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

i have two doubts.

Are you superior than normal user?

Do you work for wikipedia? Srinivasan.smart (talk) 11:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srinivasan.smart (talk • contribs) 11:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind reply.
 * 1) It is easy to add colorful letters. You can type like this  and the resultant text will be : I want to type in red . You may like to visit Help:Using colours to see more options.
 * Note: Do not use them on articles, except when they are necessary. Please read WP:Color to know more.
 * If you want to check what should be typed, you can click on edit article/section, and see what is the markup behind the output (do not click in that case.


 * 2) No I am not a superior user. I am just another user like you and every users in Wikipedia. There is no superiority in Wikipedia. But if you are asking about User rights, there can be different packages for editors. This does not mean one is special or superior to another. But they can experience some permissions. For example an administrator can delete a page but, at this time, both of us cannot.


 * 3) I am a Wikipedian. You are another Wikipedian. see Wikipedians. I do not contribute to get money. I am not a staff of The Wikimedia Foundation.


 * Again thank you for taking time to reply. V ani s che nu mTalk 12:55, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Article Feedback newsletter
Hey all!

So, big news this week - on Tuesday, we ramped up to 5 percent of articles :). There's been a lot more feedback (pardon the pun) as I'm sure you've noticed, and to try and help we've scheduled a large number of office hours sessions, including one this evening at 22:00 UTC in the channel, and another at  01:00 UTC for the aussies amongst us :). I hope to see some of you there - if any of you can't make it but have any questions, I'm always happy to help.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Do I need to change my habit?
At the top of the page you have asked to click on, but, I personally use AltShifts, do I need to change my habit? :-) BTW, I have replied to your post here -- Tito Dutta  ✉  08:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course not! It is me who is going to have a change in habit. From now on, I will switch from mine to yours :) V ani s che numTalk 19:41, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ya, keyboard shortcuts are great. I use mainly a) [ctrl shift S for save] b) [ctrl shift p for preview] c) [...L watchlist] etc. But, there is trouble too: a) I can not mark minor edit by keyobard shortcut, b) When I try to write edit summary using shortcut <|b|>, the text gets selected automatically, so I have to press right arrow once before writing edit summary. Another problem is there is not any shortcut for last change (Twinkle options -->Last (change)
 * Fun facts, in some system you can save a change more quickly by pressing Tab Enter. Using Facebook, Google Plus, Twitter or Gmail, you can use Tab Enter to quickly post a wall comment/email. 2) after writing edit summary, when the cursor is in edit summary box, just press "enter", it'll be saved. -- Tito Dutta  ✉  10:25, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Check my talk's recent history and then Special:Contributions/Teelosdomain. Note reply particularly this topic in this page, not my talk page, or your talk page may be attacked too! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  12:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I have started using them; very helpful for a slow computer like mine which takes time even to scroll up/down. Plus, my mouse's scroll key is not working and I am (was) using pressed-central button to scroll. Now I replaced them with these shortcuts making the contributions fast along with keeping away such distractions :).
 * Sorry for calling it in a misleading way (outdoor watchlist!!!). Actually, what I meant by it was the watchlist using Special:Recentchangeslinked.


 * We have aother kind of watchlist at toolserver as external watchlist. That had a replication lag of more than 500 thousand (5 lakh) seconds! And has a limited usage (needs a banner or use only things of a particular categories and not its subcats). The so called outdoor watchlist was made by the following two simple steps,
 * Created a page containing only the desired pages to watch. (With wikilnks) (See here)
 * Then used Special:Recentchangeslinked (Special:Relatedchanges) with that page as target. (See here)
 * Isn't it better to welcome vandals to attack talk pages, so that we can catch them early and before doing any harm to articles? But the problem, I think, is we may not notice their attack on us. V ani s che numTalk 02:12, 23 July 2012 (UTC) modified 09:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Which OS you are using? Uninstalling unused/unnecessary software some times help!


 * If scroll is not working, arrow keys might be helpful! Some people (if, no one, then at least me) suggest to press arrow keys like this
 * Left Fore finger (index finger)
 * Right Centre finger (middle finger)
 * Up Ring finger
 * Down Little finger
 * If it does not help at all, it creates a fine rhythm at least! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  18:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. But it has another, though minor, problem - it relies on the position cursor. So if I had put the cursor somewhere, say at the bottom of page, then I will go directly to the bottom itself. Also it has a constant speed. However, pressing the non-working scroll wheel of mouse puts a special navigational aid, whose scroll-speed can be increased by moving away from it. It also allows horizontal movements if the page is wide. But this cannot be used in pdf files where it has to be pressed for ever. Then I have to rely on the arrow keys.


 * Yeah, I have removed unwanted software, all at once (around 20 GB hard disk space attained). It has improved the speed quite well. Thank you for your kind help. V ani s che numTalk 01:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * When I am editing
 * I do not need to keep on pressing arrow keys, press and hold arrow keys (eg.Up Down), it works very fast!
 * When I am editing (the cursor is in the edit text box), I can press this keyboard combination (little bit difficult: to go to top of the page TabTabHome bottom of the page TabTabEnd (this tab key can do lots of things including save page, preview page)
 * When I am editing (the cursor is in edit box), I can press CtrlHome and CtrlEnd to go to starting or ending of a line.
 * When I am not editing
 * When I am not editing (the cursor is not in edit box), I can press Home or End button to go to top or bottom of the page
 * I'll be glad if any of these helps somehow! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  06:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes they worked. But with some little changes. I cannot go bottom or top of a page without pressing ctrl. I must press CtrlHome and CtrlEnd.
 * In the editing mode with cursor inside edit box,
 * Home - goes to the beginning of the line where the cursor is placed.
 * ctrl - goes to beginning of edit box.
 * tabtabctrl - goes to beginning of page.
 * When not editing
 * Home - goes to the beginning of the line where the cursor is placed.
 * ctrl - goes to beginning of page
 * But it doesn't matter as it is easy to press ctrl
 * Thank you so much for this. It is very helpful!


 * Now I realize that scrolling by holding arrow keys is much easier. Earlier, I relied on pressing the scroll bar, which causes distractions and and occasionally goes out of control. Thank you. Also, I am deeply impressed with the function of tab button. While experimenting it I also noted that when the cursor is placed on the article title and tab button is clicked something similar to following appears,
 * Editing User talk:Vanischenu (section)
 * Jumb to: navigation, search
 * Yes tab is great. This was very much informative. I hope I can learn more!


 * What next? alt and then alt. Thank you so much. I'm now editing like a pro! :) V ani s che numTalk 07:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Some people (if no one, then at least me alt to go to search box and alt to got to watchlist! BTW, I did not know we can write a combo key like this alt . I used to write like this CtrlHome . Excellent! Thanks! -- Tito Dutta  ✉  12:09, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool! Using them to reach the search bar would be very effective. Thank you! V ani s che numTalk 12:29, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * Thank you so much. I'd never expected this. My first barnstar ever!!! Thank you Tito. Very excited to see this, cannot describe the happiness through words. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk  07:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to become Guest Reviewer
Currently I am reviewer of Talk:Independence Day (India)/GA1 for Good Article. If you have some time can you please join as a guest reviewer? It is not a difficult task. Read the article Independence Day (India) and if you find some problem, errors or if you have some suggestion/question, write in GA review page Talk:Independence Day (India)/GA1. I am doing main review work. Being a guest reviewer is not very difficult, I think! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  15:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I am willing to do it. Thank you so much for the invitation, but not sure if I qualifies for it. Hopefully, I will take some preparations and gain confidence. I attempted to find if there is any problems but only got a few which are listed here.
 * Disambiguation needed for the word ramparts in the lead. (A little bit of strange word, so it may receive visits from the article).
 * Muslim league has been linked in a section and its immediate subsection


 * Very minor problems that may not be even considered.
 * Nehru, as you have pointed, is linked twice very closely. There is another nehru which comes first and just before the quotation but unlinked. Shall we move the two links to this or place them only at the quotation.
 * The same problem is present for republic day (first unlinked but second linked, both very near)
 * In the mean time, I will try to find more. Thank you. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 22:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome, I saw this in dabchecker but, don't know how I missed. The article editors Please go ahead and add points in Talk:Independence Day (India)/GA1 (1) use level 3 ( ===Heading=== 2) You don't need to add those importance marker etc, you can write in plain words). --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  08:06, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you.
 * When I posted this only ramparts was there. Now there is Muslim league who needs disambiguation! V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 08:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry. It redirects correctly. But DAB solver is showing that it needs disambiguation. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 08:21, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment:
 * What about including a see also section and putting the Independence Day (Pakistan) in it. Since these articles reflects shares some history, a link to it might be helpful. (The difference of these days being a matter of only few hours). But from another point of view, this may be felt strange. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 08:39, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, go ahead and post this (or anything else) in review page! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  08:43, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the encouragement. I am posting this there, though a bit nervous. Please feel free to edit my comments to correct their layout if needed. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 09:03, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent and very detailed work! I have added your name at the top of the page as Guest Reviewer and added a welcome message! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  10:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. How can I express my gratitude to you! V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 10:50, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I must also commend you for finding out subtle faults in the article. It is really difficult to do so unless you read with absolute attention. Great job. Please let us know if you find more issues with the article. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 20:41, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the motivation. I will try my best. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 15:32, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ya, good catch! Mention it! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  02:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Avogadro (software)
Are you using Avogadro (software)? Unfortunately I can not use it properly, every time I start building a molecular structure, I end up creating a meaningless and useless structure like this. :( But, I think this might be helpful in computational chemistry, molecular modeling etc --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  12:25, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Click on the image to enlarge! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  12:30, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No, I am using ChemSketch by ACD labs. You can see the difference if you look at my uploads (commons). Mine is very poor. Thank you for showing this to me. I have started to download it (11% now).
 * But I don't think those diagrams are useless, actually they are just complex structures. Thank you so much. This will help me a lot. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 12:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Super software. I liked it very much. I have been looking for something like that. I will be trying to be used with it. Thank you for showing it to me. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 21:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Redirects to Luís Capela
Thanks for mentioning these redirects at WP:RFD; as you may have seen, they were deleted some days ago. In the future, if you find a page that redirects to a nonexistent page, you can take a faster course than RFD — while there's nothing wrong with sending them there, you can tag such a redirect with db-g8, and it will probably be deleted much faster than if you'd gone through RFD. Nyttend (talk) 02:56, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for informing me about it. I have replied more on your talk page. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 15:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * On another subject — could you modify your signature slightly? It's virtually impossible to go directly to your talk page; the link to email you (at least when viewed in IE 8) almost completely covers it.  I can see the "talk" bit, of course, but the browser only wants to go to the email page.  Nyttend (talk) 23:46, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There is not any problem in (when viewed from Firefox). Most probably, IE8 is not supporting it (if IE8 does not support text shadow or CSS3, you'll face some trouble in my signature too). I can't check it since I do not have IE8. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  23:57, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you both for pointing it out. I am using Seamonkey, another version of Firefox; and in it it works the way I wish to. But in GChrome, (I switch to it for twinkle and popups - which sometimes does not load in seamonkey), it is slightly weird but still good. And hey, I checked IE8 by Softpedia and it looked perfectly aligned. And then I tried to click on it and found the real weirdness. Though it looks perfect in appearance, one cannot click it as the whole area is covered by the link to email.
 * NB: I am myself jaguaring this talk page, and wish to be tigering one day :)
 * Regards. What do you think about this &mdash; - - <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu『m/Talk』 . But the only (only?) problem is that it will look like this in my talk page :) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu『m/Talk』 05:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

AFT5 newsletter
Hey again all :). So, some big news, some small news, some good news, some bad news!

On the "big news" front; we've now deployed AFT5 on to 10 percent of articles, This is pretty awesome :). On the "bad news", however, it looks like we're having to stop at 10 percent until around September - there are scaling issues that make it dangerous to deploy wider. Happily, our awesome features engineering team is looking into them as we speak, and I'm optimistic that the issues will be resolved.

For both "small" and "good" news; we've got another office hours session. This one is tomorrow, at 22:00 UTC in - I appreciate it's a bit late for Europeans, but I wanted to juggle it so US east coasters could attend if they wanted :). Hope to see you all there!

Re: Drop by tee house
<tt>Hello! (target user name), you're invited to join other new editors and the friendly hosts in the Teahouse – an great place to meet people, ask questions, and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us! (sign)</tt>

This is the format. Sorry if I am wrong, shouldn't we change " " to " " in " ". Thank you. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 01:37, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * 'A' is correct. 'An' is used before a word beginning with a vowel or vowel sound.  For example,'an hour' is correct because the h is silent in spoken English so hour begins with a vowel sound.  'A horse' is correct because the h sound is pronounced in spoken English.  This is one of the oddities of English that make it difficult to learn.
 * Please create a userpage for yourself. User Pluma provided good instruction in his FUN STUFF page. Most important is to list the languages that you know using Wikipedia Babel. Your English is advanced, EN-3, but what is your native language?  With what other languages can you communicate or edit in Wikipedia?  Those who speak, read and write in multiple languages are extremely important to the Wikimedia movement.  I hope you will provide information on the languages you can use.  Take care, DocTree (talk) 02:22, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah! Sorry for providing insufficient info. What I actually meant was that the teahouse invitation is using the article an before the word great. Again sorry for not pointing it out. I know you have a number of teahouse invitation templates and the one I was referring to is what you placed on User talk:Nflemin2. To make it clear: that invitation is using "an" before the word "great" and I was proposing to correct it. I hope this helps you. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 02:45, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand now. The group at the Teahouse is experimenting with changing greetings and invitations. Current templates are at [Meta] for an experiment and Templates and Invite Guide and probably some other places. Thank you for pointing out my error. I will be more careful to check grammar and spelling in templates before I post them. The Teahouse is still an experiment to see if more personal help will retain more new editors. I was among those retained and hope to help them succeed. Take care, DocTree (talk) 02:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will create a userpage soon. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 05:44, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Assessment table!

 * You can post comment/assess in assessment table too (except 7. Overall assessment parameter, since that'll close the review), and change my assessment too if you do not agree.
 * Interested to star your own GA review (on any Chemistry related article)? I can participate there! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  14:49, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I have learned a lot by watching your review step by step, and I will apply it to all future edits I make. You have actually adopted me. I have gained some confidence. I will call you to review when I find one to nominate. I will be preparing for one. Thanks a lot. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 16:14, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You have done the assessment very well. I have got no points other than those you've provided in the table. You have done it well and are precise too. My edits may affects the quality of table adversely. V ani s che num<sup style="margin-left:-3.2ex">Talk 16:35, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

User page
Dude, why haven't you created your user page yet? Just asking out of curiosity. I get to see red links in view history :P <font color="DeepPink">B <font color="MediumSlateBlue">Positive <font color="ForestGreen">(talk)   10:38, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope I can create one soon. Yes, one day, I will paint them all blue. :) Now I am in a confusion, though. Thank you for your kindness. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu『m/Talk』 11:41, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok buddy. Happy Editing! :) <font color="DeepPink">B <font color="MediumSlateBlue">Positive <font color="ForestGreen">(talk)   14:38, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

New message
You have a new message here: Talk:Independence_Day_(India)/GA1 with title "Message @ Vanischenu" --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  15:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Please go ahead, add a comment. Let's discuss step by step
 * Here is the code you'll find there:
 * {{GATable/item|7||3=
 * If you do not want to assess, no problem, at least add a comment after 3=
 * It'll be something like–
 * {{GATable/item|7||3=Here goes your comment and then your sign --~
 * And you can also reply to my message in that review page! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  16:03, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, go ahead! Here is an example of final assessment text, you can write in brief too. When it is done, please leave me a message in my talk page! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  16:59, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Excellent! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  17:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Premium reviewer barnstars may not be applicable, I have not received three reviewers barnstars yet, see User:Titodutta/Awards --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  17:41, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I am afraid I have to disagree with you. You deserve it more than a typical one who has got the other 3 times. Look! Yes, you deserve it. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu{{sup|『m}}/{{sub|Talk』}} 17:52, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, yes, I read it before the talkback message! :) I wish to give you a barnstar but, I'll delay it for few days, currently you can accept this (I think it does not look too bad):



--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  17:59, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * A badge with Tito's sign and the beautiful Tricolor swinging high! What more do I want? Thank you. It is really a great honor to have it! Elegantly done. Again thank you! <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu{{sup|『m}}/{{sub|Talk』}} 20:08, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * I second it! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  18:19, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I third it!! For a relatively new editor, you have shown great skill!--Dwaipayan (talk) 21:12, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. :) Yeah, seeing the flag swinging, it comes out quite instinctively; Vande Mataram! Wish you an advanced happy Independence Day. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu『m/Talk』 20:08, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * New editor? Who? Vanischenu? Actually, he has another account from which he edits occasionally, see the account. Every account is special. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  00:55, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. So, can I put 3 ribbons for this?


 * Yes Tito is correct; actually I has another account named Valchemishnu, which I had quit. (And I created this one on the next day.)


 * The main reason for the discontinuation was that I had a user page. My userpage was filled with some views of me about this world and wishes which may trigger anyone to think that I should be hospitalized immediately. (Actually there were many occasions in real life where some of my friends will tell me seriously about the same:). Also some of the edits I made were so foolish &#91;1&#93; that I felt ashamed of me myself.


 * But months later, I came to see the sock puppet page, and wanted to take this account back. By this time I had forgotten my password. The email ID was a dedicated one - which I discontinued along with this. However I was able to secure the ID back and hence the account a week ago.


 * Then I tried to delete the userpage, first using an email to prevent it counting as an edit. I had done no edits with the former after the creation of this account (actually I did not even signed in). Then I realized that I should request it using the account itself, sacrificing the edit count and requested to delete the pages yesterday&mdash;just a few hours before dear Dwaipayan posted this comment. &#91;2&#93;&#91;3&#93; Today I saw your comments and went on to confirm both are the same (after having deleted one more sub page). (Look) Thank you. I hope this will also explain why I haven't created a user page yet :) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">V ani s che nu『m/Talk』 09:36, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Aryabhata's Calculation of Pi
Hello, If possible please join this discussion: User_talk:Titodutta --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  19:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank
Thank you, I will follow it, regard.Tnt1984 (talk) 07:24, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Windows XP?
Using Windows XP? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  17:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. And IE 6. (sorry for being late) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 18:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Google chrome installed. (Unfortunately, now I have little time-with 3 hours (1.5×2) of travelling by bus and another 7 hours of waste.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 14:27, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much! Great motivation for me. I hope I can contribute more&mdash;and all I want to do is "keep the spirit up". Thank you! <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 15:53, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Most probably you can't!
Most probably Okay, I am not sure, but, after giving it a try, I have not found any way to do it you can not link/get feedback to/for this page --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  13:36, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * He he. Then that means I would have to take them back into my watchlist :).


 * I think, unless making a special page for it, this tool would bring little help. WProjects desperately needs themCitation needed desperately. So what about requesting the respective authorities to create one? Would that be technically possible? It's good to see that they have created 2 -probably unuseful- special pages for it. I think these two pages will have a reverse effect by decreasing contributions by making active editors more engaged in clicking and  on the feedbacks.


 * (Thank you so much for answering the question. I will take it as a tribute from you to me on this Independence day. Also, many thanks for correcting wikimarkups on that page. Happy Independence Day!) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 14:27, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * See this. Happy independence day! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  15:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


 * to find a great user like you. :) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 16:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much for your kindness and encouragement. A million thanks for inspiring me. Yeah! I am now feeling the confidence back&mdash;which got weakened when my computer stopped working for a couple of days. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 15:29, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually getting an edit from such a unique user like you on one's talkpage itself is inspirational. So this barnstar is in fact inspiration2.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 16:22, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

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 * Thank you so much Tito. :} I was getting to feel that I missed you for a while. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 16:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Your help desk question
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 * Thank you for your kindness. I appreciate you for never letting any Wikipedian disappointed. Thank you. I will ask it at WP:VP/T per your kind advice. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 15:22, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

NML Cygni
NML Cygni is the largest known star with 1650 solar radii (1650 times larger than Sun). Since there was not any article on the biggest star, I have started the article stub. Though I have read few journal articles, still continuing it single handedly is not my cup of tea/coffee/milk/watre. Could you please help a little bit in this biggest star's article (if it survives)? If we can add some good content it'll be suer shot and one of the best DYKs pointing "largest star, 1650 solar radii etc etc)--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  03:14, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting article. I will try my best. You are great, Tito! I can't wait to see it in the mainpage. I am sure that this will cross 5000 hits, and this may even cross 10000.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 15:22, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I don't think we can take it to DYK status in next 2–3 days. Still creating the article on the largest known star is a joy, see List_of_largest_known_stars. And this is the first time I have used DOI references in Wikipedia, if you see the references it is like this: . --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  20:41, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And could you add an infobox like this KY Cygni in the article? Possible? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta   ✉  20:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. Great thanks for providing the example, whose refs can give the sites where info about this star might also be available.
 * http://simbad.u-strasbg.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=NML+Cyg


 * Will be searching for more. Sorry for the delay. Thank you! <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 17:34, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the delay. –it took us only 13.75 ± 0.11 billion years to create an article on NML Cygni (of course NML Cygni was not born right after big bang, but, I don't know age of NML Cygni, so let' consider 13.75 ± 0.11 billion years (maximum). So, no worries if it takes some more time to expand it. If you are ready you can go ahead and copy paste the infobox. Else I need to provide attribution (since your post here is under CC SA etc etc). BTW, what is the constellation NML Cygni?  --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta   ✉  21:54, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * BTW, have you seen my new user page? No, it is not Sun, it is NML Cygni!, you can create a (similar/different) user page. Can you read Bengali? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  21:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks great! I shall also create one soon. (No, I haven't seen it. I missed it! A clear example that shows that I am not watching the watchlist carefully. I will give more attention from today onwards)
 * Malayalam (a Dravidian language) is my native language, and I have learned Hindi. The problem is that, I can write excellently (but with bad handwriting, of course :), read quite well, but cannot speak or synthesis sentences correctly (grammatically). I can also understand Sanskrit though not as much as Hindi. The alphabets of Bengali seems to, though slightly, different. I will be trying to learn them, definitely. I will also be considering Urdu. I have already started learning Hindi.
 * Constellation:Cygnus (constellation). This star is a variable star (named V1489 Cyg) and per Variable star designation, it should be named by the name of constellation. This is also supported by this on 3rd page (marked as 414), 2nd para, 3rd sentence.
 * Attribution? I didn't know that. Then I shall release my contribs in the PD, unless stated otherwise.
 * Got two cats,
 * Category:Variable stars
 * Category:Cygnus (constellation)
 * <span class="inline-quote-talk" style="font-family: Georgia, serif; color: #F08080;">Sorry for the delay, again :(Further, I could have saved this an hour before, but when I was about to be finished, the browser got stuck, and I have to wait and write the same again.)


 * Did you know that.... RBI has decided to introduce polymer banknotes in India. See Indian rupee (not new (2009), but interesting and I am hearing it for the first time. Please note: I am not proposing a DYK on this, but just commenting on an interesting fact.)


 * Regards. :) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 04:29, 26 August 2012 (UTC) modified on 04:58, 26 August 2012 (UTC) and 10:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Polymer banknote will be very handy, but, I don't know when they'll introduce these in this country. When others are into 4G, we are just 3G beginner.
 * I am also interested in Google Fiber, these fibre cable internet connection claim to increase internet speed upto 100 times or more. Article shows maximum speed 1Gbps speed. I don't want 1 Gbps, if I get 1Gbps/1024=1 Mbps "constant" speed, it'll be more than excellent. See my average internet speed --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  13:04, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I am also hoping for one of that kind :) I am using an Idea edge internet connection, which shows a maximum download of around 275 kbps in statistics right now. (It shows in kbps and not in Mbps!). Most of the time, I cannot open Wikipedia (Network connection timed out- it says) But I can open all other WMF projects.I have already asked on it
 * (I cannot even imagine how it look like at 73.53 Mbps. It is harder than or at least comparable to the thinking of 4Ds and concept of multiple universes :).
 * Asking out of curiosity, have you visited Kerala before (Sorry if this is personal, please note that this talk page may also appear on different websites that take scraps out of WP)? Goodnight to you!<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 19:56, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The article was created on 02:39, 23 August 2012‎. My apologies for being late, possibly very late. Shouldn't we hurry up! Still standing below 15,000 characters!!! Is there any possibility for DYK nomination now?<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 20:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Correct Answer: You can not open Wikipedia because of a planning. Long story short: since you have joined Wikipedia, you are not visiting Yahoo answer. No one is there now to answer "My bird fell down, is he ill?" type questions! That's why Wikipedia deliberately creates problem in your Wikipedia loading so that you can not open Wikipedia.
 * Incorrect answer Check manually if something is preventing your browser from opening Wikipedia. Don't know about Seamonkey, but if you have addons/extension in seakmonkey, try in safe mode. Search in Google with "Solve network time out problem <Your browser>", try those suggestions. Finally try a new browser. Are you using Wikipedia secured (i.e. https). Change to http. Still not solved? Disable WikiEd, ProveIt etc special gadgets (you can disable and check one by one). Have added some weird script in vector.js or commons.js page? Or is any error/script in that page taking long time to execute?
 * No, Sir, I have not gone to Kerala. Most probably that is the only state in India which has something like this and maximum number of Sadhus (monks). In Kerala if in a house there are three people, first one will be mathematician, second person will be a Sadhu (monk), and third person will be a coconut vendor! Bad joke? :-D
 * About cygni, generally 4–5 days. I am not seeing any chance! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  20:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL. I also wanted to try Google answers, but I was very very late at that time. We have an RD, but I had not heard about it, until I became more used within WP. I haven't quit, but now I am busy and will be back there one day. How did you find this? If WP doesn't want me here, then the very next thing I would be doing is to join WBooks and create more messes there.
 * ... I will try. Thank you for the answers. I mark this as the BEST ANSWER and give you 5 stars. :)
 * ROFL Sitting on a polypropylene chair, laughing. I would be the third person, then.
 * : ( Sorry, this is the 5th time I am disappointing the community (3rd time on you in particular)
 * <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 21:33, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


 * In a discussion someone told me– There are hundreds of pages about gurus and swamis nobody heard about outside India (or even outside Kerala), written in ...er... a very non-neutral tone.. Even in main Kerala article there are some conflicts for last few days/weeks. Recently someone asked me to check that article, I made some minor fixes, but, I don't think I'll be able do something until they finish the debate.
 * 1) There are some people who try to prove Kerala civilization is 5000 years, 1000 years or older than that. And they bring some Matsya Puran etc to support these claims. According to them, God created the universe in 6 days. (Since creating the universe is a huge task), before that he was taking preparation in Kerala!
 * 2) Napoleon told– the word "impossible" is not present in his dictionary. The thing he did not tell– his dictionary was printed from a press of Kerala, that's why the word "impossible" was not there. Everything is possible in Kerala!
 * 3) Can you tell me any number larger than infinity? Well, yes, there is a number it is called NoCTiK. Can you guess what is this?

NoCTiK → Number of Coconut Trees in Kerala > ∞ Suggestion of the day If this ghost comes to you, don't ask to straighten dog's tail. Better ask to count NoCTiK!


 * --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  22:32, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * NoCTiK&mdash;that is absolutely a cool discovery. The article is great, but along with the humor, a moral advice was also given.


 * These people around Kerala are cutting down dogs' tails, so that might be their cultural heritage behind this cruelty..


 * Yeah, I saw the recent conflict. But I didn't want to involve in it directly as it was some sort of religious CoI. I just kept watching and then poured some water to take the flame out, though it got evaporated in the heat.


 * ...creating the universe is a huge task Yeah! Very huge task indeed (2,658‎ bytes!!!). And took about 55 days


 * 2)Don't worry, try Wiktionary. It has got the almost all of the existing and non-existing words including it.

NML Cygni 2
On another thought, we can still jump for DYK, if we can add 300 more characters. This PDF file has lots of information. You can nominate for DYK immediately you'll think it is ready! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  05:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks you so much. If I nominate this, then I must review another one's nomination, but I have very little experience. Also, self nominations are encouraged, and you are very very experienced. I will take this opportunity to watch and learn how you do a review.
 * Also, one confusion: does this 5 day period applies for the reviewing time too. (I mean if I submit for DYK just at the brink of 5 day, but the reviewing took 2 more days, will it get disqualified?) What would be the deadline for this article? Thank you <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 05:18, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I do not know about DYK. This user knows a lot User_talk:Crisco_1492 --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  05:33, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Asked on his talk page. Thanks for pointing them. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 06:13, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Most probably no! Let them answer, you can nominate for DYK if it is ready. I have just broken my own record. I had 6/minute highest, now I have 10/minute. See here --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  06:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I remember me creating an article on one tab and its redirects in other tabs so that I could see a clean contribution :).
 * Thanks for giving enough support. Hope that we have enough fortune. And I wish that the 5 day time measures up to 02:39, 28 August 2012 in UTC. Also please consider nominating this if it has crossed the limit. I do not know how to use the tool to calculate characters and is also facing power failures (my UPS has stopped working in last month) It is monsoon (rainy) season here. (Just after clicking Save Page on their talk page, there was a power failure.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu'「m/Talk」 06:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC) modified later and finally on 06:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * For some reasons, I am not participating in assessment, evaluation etc works now! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  07:03, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I can understand it. I shall nominate this for DYK then, with the confidence gained from the GA review with you. Assuming that the time span extends for tomorrow and the reviewing time will not be taken into account, I am quite relieved. If you have time, please tell me how many more characters shall I put into the article to cross the limit. Regards. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 07:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not saying out of our in-wiki relations, you are the best GA reviewer I have ever seen&mdash;and I am just one of the several Wikipedians to feel so. Yeah, I am very fortunate to see your reviewing step by step and closely and get advices from you on the same.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 07:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I typed

NMLCygniorNMLCygisaredsupergiantstarandthelargeststarcurrentlyknown,atabout1,650timestheSun'sdiameter.Itisoneoftheextremeluminousgiantstars.Thedistancefromitisexpectedtobearound1.7kpc.Thisstarhasadustyenvironmentsurrounding.Thisstarexhibitsabean-shapedasymmetricnebulawhichiscoincidentwiththedistributionofitsH2Ovapormasers.Itisasemiregularvariablestarwithaperiodofaround940days.NMLCygniisapartoftheCygOB2association.TheCygOB2associationspansnearly2°onthesky,or∼30pcinradiusatthedistanceof1.74±0.2kpc,thusitoneoftheclosestmassiveassociationstotheSun.Ithasanestimatedmassof∼50M⊙Thebolometricluminosity(Lbol)forthisstarisnear3×105L☉.Itsbolometricmagnitude(Mbol)isaround−9.0.Itisoneofthemostluminoushypergiantstars.Itwasdiscoveredin1965,byNeugebauer,MartzandLeighton.ThenameNMLcomesfromthenamesofthesethreediscoverers.Fromtheobservations,itisestimatedthatthisstarhastwodiscreteopticallythickenvelopesofdustandmolecules.Theopticaldepthoftheinnershellisfoundtobe1.9whilethatoftheouteroneis0.33.Thestarhasoneofthelargestmasslossratesataround2×10-4M☉peryear.Thesedustenvelopesareformedduetothestrongpost-mainsequencewindvelocityandthehighmassemissionrate.Thepost-MSwindvelocityis23km/s.BecauseofitsuniquelocationwithintheMilkyWaythestardoesnotdominateitslocalinterstellarenvironment.NMLCygisamassiveoxygenrichstarThecompositionofthisstarbegantoberevealedwiththediscoveryofOHradioemissions(1612MHz)in1968(WilsonandBarrett).ThepresenceofmoleculeslikeH2O,SiO,CO,HCN,CS,SO,SO2andH2Swasalsorevealedinthelateryears.

at http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml (searched by excluding whitespaces and ref numbers and joining everything in a single line) and got number of characters as 1502 :) . So it has crossed the limit.


 * Now we should take care about the copyedits.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 10:36, 27 August 2012 (UTC) collapsed the characters on 10:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Goodnews:Since I am nominating this for the first time, I may not review another one's nomination.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 10:45, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I have not find clear citation for "largest known star", that's why I have not added any direct citation. This list shows CYgni is the largest List_of_largest_known_stars. Also does that citation of that article help? --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  14:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Created a new section for further discussion.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 21:20, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

What should be the topic of DYK
I would like "...that NML Cygni is the largest star known at about 1,650 times the Sun's diameter." but that was already mentioned in the article List of largest known stars. Please give some suggestions so that a hook be created.

Please list some more and decide which is the most interesting on.
 * NML Cyg is a massive oxygen rich star
 * is one of the most luminous hypergiant stars
 * is estimated that this star has two discrete optically thick envelopes of dust and molecules.

What should be the format? What about this: ''Did you know that ... the largest star known, NML Cygni, is estimated to have two discrete optically thick envelopes of dust and molecules?''<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 08:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * These are good, but largest known star is better! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  14:08, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with you. That would be better. How should the sentence look like, any suggestion? <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 21:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Source and NML Cyg
Unfortunately the citation given on the article doesn't help as it is a link to abstract of a book. We need access to verify it. And they say,

Alas! Really sorry for having this.

Further to this, there occurred a conflict, recently, between two editors on which star is the largest one. It is at Talk:VY Canis Majoris. this reversion.

On WikiBlame, I searched for NML Cygni and 650. Though I do not know how to interpret it completely, I was able to note that this was added by this edit. Shall we contact the user to get some help?<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 21:05, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If it is not the largest star a) you can hook anything else b) there is still nothing to care from non-dyk point of view, creating article on star is still a happy experience c) you can give it up dyk idea for now. Only few hours left. You can hook anything. Everything above look great as hooks. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  22:30, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback on 23 August 2012
New message from Dwaipayan (keep DYK in mind) <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta   ✉  22:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And are you reading DOI references? You can download PDF from there! I am seeing you are relying on old cite book, cite web. Not in every article we get opportunity to cite DOI (of course you get in your Chemistry articles, but not me), citing DOI (that means best of the best journals) is a great feeling! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  22:59, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I liked it very much. I have seen DOIs near in many sources, but did not know how to cite it. I will try to cite with DOI in future, as you showed me how to use them. Particularly, Gold book has got doi, and I would be more than happy to cite using them. (I have used Provelt to cite them, which misses a lot of things and all those items should be inserted manually.) <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 01:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Go ahead and nominate the article for DYK. The hook can be changed if needed. For now, just nominate it. I was not able to access that journal's latest issue, although some back issues were available. Not being able to access does not disqualify it as a reliable source! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:16, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Located at Template:Did you know nominations/NML Cygni. Let us hope that it will get selected. Many thanks to both of you.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 01:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Did you ask who actually added that reference in [List of largest known stars]]? He may have access to the full article.--Dwaipayan (talk) 23:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Help requested..<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 01:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * If you're looking for a NASA press release saying "NML Cygni is the largest star" then I think you'll be disappointed. It has ended up top of the Wikipedia list almost by default as other stars with larger estimated sizes have been revised smaller in new research.  I just re-read the referenced paper and it doesn't even explicitly state the number 1650.  Rather it derives the distance, angular diameter, temperature, and luminosity, but leaves the physical size unstated.  So original research?  The derived parameters have considerable quoted margins of error, but 1650 is the smallest value.  Older references give much larger values, but highly uncertain.  You may be able to download the whole PDF at:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1207.1850 Lithopsian (talk) 14:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you. But we need materials to support this claim as it is to be featured in the main page. Replied on your talk. Thanks. <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 18:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your frustration. I have looked through journals for a solid explicit reference to the size of this star, but the only ones I can find are decades old and really not reliable.  More recent papers just accept that it is one of the largest stars around and don't waste time trying to tie that down to a level that simply isn't meaningful.  Zhang's paper summarises the current state of affairs, but it isn't much to base a claim to the largest star on.  Schuster's paper (http://iopscience.iop.org/0004-637X/699/2/1423/fulltext/) has some images but again I don't know if they can be used.  Public images will be rare because there isn't a whole lot to see. Lithopsian (talk) 19:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry for being too much on it. I am so worried because this would be appearing on the main page, and would be very interesting for all kinds of people irrespective of ages, regions and education. And hence it would get a lot of attention. The problem is with "1650" and "the largest". I don't know what to do.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 20:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * In the queue for day after tomorrow... <font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 21:34, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

YGM on 28 Aug
--<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  02:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Rare honour for Kolkata
A news has been published today in almost all West Bengal newspaper's front page. I hope it is more or less same in Kerala too. On 15th September (this year) president of Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, US/International is coming to Kolkata to situate milestone plaques in respect of Jagadish Chandra Bose and C.V. Raman. Reading from the Wikipedia article–
 * Nobel laureate Raman was an extra-ordinary scientist. After discovering Raman's effect he bought tickets to go to foreign and collect Nobel prize even before he was selected or officially announced by Nobel Committee. Self confidence!
 * Acharya Bose was the first scientist who discovered plants have life (using Crescograph, he is also considered as the inventor (father) of Wireless communication (that means he is the father of today's all wirelss communication, mobile, wireless internet etc). But, he did not take patent, few hours later Guglielmo Marconi took patent and was awarded Nobel prize. But, still researches on the subjects like 1) Wireless communication (physics), 2) plant stimuli (biology/botany/bio-physics) shows his great range of intellect. He did many more researches which you can read Sir Bose's biographical article (link above), but, furthermore, apart from doing so many researches, he was a story writer too. And he was the person who wrote first science fiction story in Bengali (1896). I have not read this story but I have heard the story was about weather control. With only few apparatus, almost no advanced research facilities he had successfully done at least two international level or more than international level research.

Now to honour these two scientist representatives of IEEE are coming to Kolkata. India will be third country in Asia and Kolkata will be first city in India to get this honour.
 * A news article. You can search more in Google! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  16:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 18:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks.. <span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  20:40, 28 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Confusion (Correction?) I said above that Jagadish Chandra Bose invented plants have life– as you'll find in many web articles. But, as per "introduction" part of Bengali book "Abyakta" (a book written by Bose himself), he did invent it– plants of life that was not new at the time of Bose and which is accepted for many centuries I am more interested to know more about it which is not available in introduction, Sir Bose using crescograph proved plants life is similar to animal/human life etc! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;color:#000000">Tito Dutta ✉ 00:11, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for NML Cygni
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Dream
Congrats! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  02:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Same to you. You deserve it much more than me.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 02:21, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Look at the graph. That article used to be visited by people even before it was created.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 03:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Either that is a glitch or people used to click on redlink! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  03:49, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, the DYK hook was very catchy, the largest star! So, no surprise!--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * A good number of people clicked on "Red supergiant" as it was linked before the hook in the sentence. See here. They should change the rule, like disambig page only the DYK article should be linked, or we need to be careful next time! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  05:44, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * What's next we are going to explore? Weirdest animal of Africa? Mountain of Mars (really, there are some mountains in Mars) Unpopular Egyptian deity? I may try to find! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta  ✉  06:08, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There is only Egyptian deity on whom there is not any article. She is Iat– minor goddess of milk and, by association, of nurturing and childbirth. She is mainly goddess of milk, since there are few more deities to supervise childbirths: Bes, Haqet, Meskhenet! So, not a good DYK hook. But, there are good number of uncovered mountains of Mars, see here. --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#ED791A 0em 0em 0.8em,#F55220 -0.8em -0.8em 0.9em,#1D6B00 0.7em 0.7em 0.8em;"> Tito Dutta   ✉  06:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Both seems to be interesting. Greek goddess is a symbol of a particular culture and would be interesting.<font style="text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.3em 0.2em">···V ani s che nu「m/Talk」 14:46, 31 August 2012 (UTC)