User talk:VisionZoe

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Hi Jimfbleak, I am very new to editing in Wikipedia although I've used the website for a long time. To begin with, I am not being paid to write this article, I just saw the opportunity of writing my first article for Wikipedia as I do know the company, I've been taking Programming lessons there. I do not see where the article is not neutral, I just printed information I found (which you can find too) on their website or articles. There are other wikipedia pages like the one I tried to create, see Verbling one, or Italki,. I don't understand why this one is not being accepted.

Please tell me exactly what should I write in order for the article to be accepted.

And I would like to have the draft back, please.

Thank you.

VisionZoe (talk) 10:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)VisionZoe


 * To provide one obvious example: "[...] has more than 40.000 teachers from 90 different countries, that have helped more than 3 million students achieve their goals." What's the source for that claim? And what, beyond sounding better, is the difference between "helping students achieve their goals" and "teaching"? As far as I can tell there is no evidence that those 3 million students actually did achieve their goals, so the repeated references to "achieving goals" are arguably misleading. Beyond these tone issues, the draft's sources were not reliable or not independent (one arguably was both, but that one didn't mention Classgap), and Wikipedia considers "letting the world know about something" in the absence of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources the same as "promoting something". may have additional comments. Huon (talk) 11:59, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks. VisionZoe, if you want me to see comments on this page, you must start it with my user name, User:Jimfbleak and sign it with four tildes ~ when you post it. That will send me an alert. Otherwise you can post on my talk page. I deleted your article because


 * it did not provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the company, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the company claims or interviewing  its management. Note that references should not be bare urls. Much of your text is completely unsourced.
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. Your text was all about what the company sells, little about the company organisation itself other than locations. To show notability you need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits.


 * it was written in a promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. Another example of unsourced or self-sourced claims presented as fact is: letting students and teachers have a better experience. Your whole article is just a promo for the company


 * You said I just printed information I found (which you can find too) on their website or articles. Be aware that if you have copied text, that is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial but there is no indication that the copied site allows free use. Text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient.
 * I note that you have said that you don't have a conflict of interest when editing this article.


 * The fact that other articles have not been deleted doesn't help you, either they met the criteria or should be deleted as well. See What about article x?. Also note that many articles would have been accepted before the notability guidelines were made stricter.

Before attempting to write an article again, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)