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Mongol conquest of the Khwarazmian Empire
The correct date in Mongol conquest of the Khwarazmian Empire is 1256 don't learn me my country's history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirfataei (talk • contribs) 14:28, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * , I am not quite sure what you possibly mean by saying "don't learn me...", but I'd simply go on and make my humble comment on the reason why I reverted your contribution. As rightly noted in his edit summary after what he had reverted your contribution (again), the above-mentioned article is not as straightforward as it may seem regarding what part of history it tries to portray. To clear the air, the best of both worlds would probably be taking the issue to the article's talk page. -- Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  06:27, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * PS: By the way, I see you have followed our suggestion and left a message in the talk page trying to explain your insistence on that particular change you wished to implement in the article. Now, please wait for other interested editors to respond to your message (remember, it may take some time, be patient!) and later establish consensus on this issue. -- Visioncurve Timendi causa est nescire  10:46, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 June 2022
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Ali-Shir Nava'i
Thank you. Kansas Bear (talk) 17:00, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You are always welcome, mate! I'm glad to know that my edit was helpful. Movaffaq baashi :-) -- Visioncurve Timendi causa est nescire  09:39, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg AA • Gwalla • Ioeth • Laurascudder • Moriori (deceased) • Nat • Rfl
 * Pictogram voting rename.png →

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Lee Vilenski



Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Nihiltres

Technical news
 * is a new variable that can be used in abuse filters to avoid affecting globally active users.

Arbitration
 * An arbitration case regarding conduct in deletion-related editing has been opened.

Miscellaneous
 * The New Pages Patrol queue has around 10,000 articles to be reviewed. As all administrators have the patrol right, please consider helping out. The queue is here. For further information on the state of the project, see the latest NPP newsletter.

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Tech News: 2022-28
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * In the Vector 2022 skin, the page title is now displayed above the tabs such as Discussion, Read, Edit, View history, or More. Learn more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg It is now possible to easily view most of the configuration settings that apply to just one wiki, and to compare settings between two wikis if those settings are different. For example: Japanese Wiktionary settings, or settings that are different between the Spanish and Esperanto Wikipedias. Local communities may want to discuss and propose changes to their local settings. Details about each of the named settings can be found by searching MediaWiki.org.
 * The Anti-Harassment Tools team recently deployed the IP Info Feature as a Beta Feature at all wikis. This feature allows abuse fighters to access information about IP addresses. Please check our update on how to find and use the tool. Please share your feedback using a link you will be given within the tool itself.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future changes
 * The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout July. Discussions will look different.  You can see some of the proposed changes.

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19:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-29
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * The feature on mobile web for Nearby Pages was missing last week. It will be fixed this week.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

Future changes
 * The Technical Decision Forum is seeking community representatives. You can apply on wiki or by emailing TDFSupport@wikimedia.org before 12 August.

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22:58, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-30
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The www.wikibooks.org and www.wikiquote.org portal pages now use an automated update system. Other project portals will be updated over the next few months.

Problems
 * Last week, some wikis were in read-only mode for a few minutes because of an emergency switch of their main database (targeted wikis).

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The external link icon will change slightly in the skins Vector legacy and Vector 2022. The new icon uses simpler shapes to be more recognizable on low-fidelity screens.
 * Administrators will now see buttons on user pages for "" and "" instead of just "" if the user is already blocked.

Future meetings
 * The next open meeting with the Web team about Vector (2022) will take place tomorrow (26 July).

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19:26, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 1 August 2022
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Tech News: 2022-31
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Improved LaTeX capabilities for math rendering are now available in the wikis thanks to supporting  tags. This completes part of the #59 wish of the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The Realtime Preview will be available as a Beta Feature on wikis in Group 0. This feature was built in order to fulfill one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals.

Future changes
 * The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout August. Discussions will look different.  You can see some of the proposed changes.

Future meetings
 * This week, three meetings about Vector (2022) with live interpretation will take place. On Tuesday, interpretation in Russian will be provided. On Thursday, meetings for Arabic and Spanish speakers will take place. See how to join.

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21:20, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Turkoman (ethnonym)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Turkoman (ethnonym) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of TrangaBellam -- TrangaBellam (talk) 15:03, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Poetry of Babur
Babur was an acclaimed writer, who had a profound love for literature. His library was one of his most beloved possessions that he always carried around with him, and books were one of the treasures he searched for in new conquered lands. In his memoirs, when he listed sovereigns and nobles of a conquered land, he also mentioned poets, musicians and other educated people.

During his 47-year life, Babur left a rich literary and scientific heritage. He is the author of the world-famous Bāburnāma, as well as beautiful lyrical works or ghazals, treatises on Muslim jurisprudence (Mubayyin), poetics (Aruz risolasi), music, and a special calligraphy, known as khatt-i Baburi. Continue reading it here.

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).



Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Valereee
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
 * An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news
 * The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
 * Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous
 * You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
 * Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
 * Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:45, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-32
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * GUS2Wiki copies the information from to an on-wiki page so you can review its history. If your project isn't already listed on the Wikidata entry for Project:GUS2Wiki you can either run GUS2Wiki yourself or make a request to receive updates.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future meetings
 * The Wikimania Hackathon will take place online from August 12–14. Don't miss the pre-hacking showcase to learn about projects and find collaborators. Anyone can propose a project or host a session. Newcomers are welcome!

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19:48, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Beverly Hills Cop
Hello, appreciate your rescission of my edit if the format was not correct.

The story I posted is a true story that I think adds something to the page. However would be difficult to substantiate.

Any tips on how it should be posted here? My father was an actual Detroit cop when the film was being made, and that is the actual origin story for the character's name. In the real example, Zig did not grant them usage of his name, hence the different spelling of Bogumil VS Bogomil Dpolancih (talk) 15:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)


 * , hi. Your addition to the Beverly Hills Cop article actually had three problems, one of which begged for immediate attention. While it was surely a good faith edit, the first and foremost problem was that you added your paragraph to the wrong part of the page, after the reference list, which is not appropriate. There are a couple of useful suggestions in WP:MOS that you may want to familiarize yourself with before you proceed editing Wikipedia. Also, your addition was not backed by reliable sources. According to WP:VER, all material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. Lastly, and unfortunately, your paragraph was written poorly with several grammatical errors, and therefore it was, coupled with reasons mentioned above, deemed as unconstructive. Take care! Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  05:37, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-33
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia community decided to block IP editing from October 2021 to April 2022. The Wikimedia Foundation's Product Analytics team tracked the impact of this change. An impact report is now available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * The Realtime Preview will be available as a Beta Feature on wikis in Group 1. This feature was built in order to fulfill one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals.

Future changes
 * The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated throughout August. Discussions will look different.  You can see some of the proposed changes.

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21:07, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Animal Kingdom
Lucien Savron wrote the original screenplay for this movie and TV series. David has taken all the credit because no-one will speak for Lucien. His family should be credited for the genius which was his original screenplay and is still in written copy at their home. 124.168.200.13 (talk) 13:57, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Please, provide a reliable source to back up your addition. According to WP:VER, all material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. Have a good day! Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  15:22, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello
Hello @Visioncurve, I have noticed your edits on Babur's poetry (it's kinda late, yeah) and they are great! Section looks amazing in terms of both style and significance of information. Thank you for your contributions on developing the Wikipedia. Berk Berk 68 02:20, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , many thanks for your comment and compliments. I appreciate that. Take care! Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  05:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Rich Eisen
The source is his own acknowledgment, via the "Rich Eisen Show." I've no idea how you'd provide a reference for that. 99.37.53.180 (talk) 17:05, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter. According to WP:VER, all material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists, and captions, must be verifiable. Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it.WP:RS also states that articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. This means that we publish only the analysis, views, and opinions of reliable authors, and not those of Wikipedians who have read and interpreted primary source material for themselves. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  04:56, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-34
<section begin="technews-2022-W34"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Two problems with Kartographer maps have been fixed. Maps are no longer shown as empty when a geoline was created via VisualEditor. Geolines consisting of points with QIDs (e.g., subway lines) are no longer shown with pushpins.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * The colours of links and visited links will change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear.

Future changes
 * The new [] button helps newcomers get answers. The Editing team is enabling this tool everywhere.  You can turn it off in your preferences.

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00:10, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-35
<section begin="technews-2022-W35"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Realtime Preview is available as a Beta Feature on wikis in Group 2. This feature was built in order to fulfill one of the Community Wishlist Survey proposals. Please note that when this Beta feature is enabled, it may cause conflicts with some wiki-specific Gadgets.

Problems
 * In recent months, there have been inaccurate numbers shown for various at Commons, Wikidata, and English Wikipedia. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia Foundation wants to improve how Wikimedia communities report harmful incidents by building the Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) to make it easy and safe for users to make reports. You can leave comments on the talk page, by answering the questions provided. If you have ever faced a harmful situation that you wanted to report/reported, join a PIRS interview to share your experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

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23:03, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 August 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg DanCherek • DatGuy • Femke • Z1720
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Aldux • Graham Beards • Nyttend



Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Mr. Stradivarius

Guideline and policy news
 * A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
 * An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

Technical news
 * The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
 * The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

Arbitration
 * An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
 * The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous
 * The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
 * Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

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Tech News: 2022-36
<section begin="technews-2022-W36"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * Octicons-tools.svg On Special pages that only have one tab, the tab-bar's row will be hidden in the Vector-2022 skin to save space. The row will still show if Gadgets use it. Gadgets that currently append directly to the CSS id of <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> should be updated to use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> function instead. Gadgets that style this id should consider also targeting <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr">, the new id for this row. Examples are available.

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23:20, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-37
<section begin="technews-2022-W37"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The search servers have been upgraded to a new major version. If you notice any issues with searching, please report them on Phabricator.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Syntax highlighting is now tracked as an expensive parser function. Only 500 expensive function calls can be used on a single page. Pages that exceed the limit are added to a tracking category.

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01:48, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-38
<section begin="technews-2022-W38"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Two database fields in the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> table are now being dropped: <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . Any queries that rely on these fields need to be changed to use the new normalization field called <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . See T299417 for more information. This is part of normalization of links tables.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * In Kartographer maps, you can use icons on markers for common points of interest. On Tuesday, the previous icon set will be updated to version maki 7.2. That means, around 100 new icons will be available. Additionally, all existing icons were updated for clarity and to make them work better in international contexts.

Future changes
 * In a group discussion at Wikimania, more than 30 people talked about how to make content partnership software in the Wikimedia movement more sustainable. What kind of support is acceptable for volunteer developers? Read the summary and leave your feedback.

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MediaWiki message delivery 22:14, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Turkoman
Your GA nomination for Turkoman (ethnonym) has been re-reviewed .--Gazozlu (talk) 22:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-39
<section begin="technews-2022-W39"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Parsoid clients should be updated to allow for space-separated multi-values in the attribute of links. Further details are in T315209.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Visual diffs will become available to all users, except at the Wiktionaries and Wikipedias.
 * Talk pages on the mobile site will change at the Arabic, Bangla, Chinese, French, Haitian Creole, Hebrew, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. They should be easier to use and provide more information.
 * In the     namespace, pages ending with will be treated as JSON, just like they already are in the      and      namespaces.

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 September 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg ScottishFinnishRadish
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Staxringold
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Ahoerstemeier (deceased) • Ched

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Cyberpower678

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg GorillaWarfare

Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
 * Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
 * Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

Technical news
 * The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
 * A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
 * The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

Miscellaneous
 * An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
 * You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
 * An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
 * Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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Tech News: 2022-40
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Recent changes
 * Kartographer maps can now show geopoints from Wikidata, via QID or SPARQL query. Previously, this was only possible for geoshapes and geolines.
 * The Coolest Tool Award 2022 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools until 12 October.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Talk pages on the mobile site will change at the Arabic, Bangla, Chinese, French, Haitian Creole, Hebrew, Korean, and Vietnamese Wikipedias. They should be easier to use and provide more information. (Last week's release was delayed)
 * Octicons-tools.svg The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> API module will require a CSRF token. This module is documented as internal and use of it is not supported. [5]
 * The Vector 2022 skin will become the default across the smallest Wikimedia projects. Learn more.

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Tech News: 2022-41
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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * On some wikis, Kartographer maps in full size view will be able to display nearby articles. After a feedback period, more wikis will follow.

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Guild of Copy Editors' October 2022 newsletter
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Tech News: 2022-42
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Recent changes
 * The recently implemented feature of article thumbnails in Special:Search will be limited to Wikipedia projects only. Further details are in T320510.
 * A bug that caused problems in loading article thumbnails in Special:Search has been fixed. Further details are in T320406.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg Lua module authors can use <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> to load data from JSON pages.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Lua module authors can enable <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> to add errors for some possible code problems. This replaces "Module:No globals" on most wikis.

Future changes
 * The Beta Feature for DiscussionTools will be updated at most wikis. The "" button will look different after this change.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:44, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-43
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Recent changes
 * There have been some minor visual fixes in Special:Search, regarding audio player alignment and image placeholder height. Further details are in T319230.
 * On Wikipedias, a new preference has been added to hide article thumbnails in Special:Search. Full details are in T320337.

Problems
 * Last week, three wikis had read-only access for 25 minutes. This was caused by a hardware problem.

Changes later this week
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 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 7:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" . This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally.
 * Starting on Wednesday October 26, 2022, the list of mentors will be upgraded at wikis where Growth mentorship is available. The mentorship system will continue to work as it does now. The signup process will be replaced, and a new management option will be provided. Also, this change simplifies the creation of mentorship systems at Wikipedias.
 * Pages with titles that start with a lower-case letter according to Unicode 11 will be renamed or deleted. There is a list of affected pages at Unicode 11 case map migration . More information can be found at T292552.
 * The Vector 2022 skin will become the default across the smallest Wikipedias. Learn more.

Future changes
 * The Reply tool and New Topic tool will soon get a special characters menu.

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The Signpost: 31 October 2022
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Tech News: 2022-44
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Recent changes
 * When using keyboard navigation on a Kartographer map, the focus will become more visible.
 * In, you can now hide the log entries for new user creations with the filter for "".

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The maps dialog in VisualEditor now has some help texts.
 * It is now possible to select the language of a Kartographer map in VisualEditor via a dropdown menu.
 * It is now possible to add a caption to a Kartographer map in VisualEditor.
 * It is now possible to hide the frame of a Kartographer map in VisualEditor.

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Isabelle Belato · Whpq
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Atama · Astronautics~enwiki · Athaenara · Eddie891 · GraemeL · Marianocecowski · Natalya · Pratyeka · SB Johnny

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Ragesoss

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Blablubbs · Firefly
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Joe Roe

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg DGG

Guideline and policy news
 * The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
 * An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.

Miscellaneous
 * The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
 * You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
 * Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like or.

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Tech News: 2022-45
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Recent changes
 * An updated version of the Event Registration tool is now available for testing at testwiki and test2wiki. The tool provides features for event organizers and participants. Your feedback is welcome at our project talkpage. More information about the project is available.

Problems
 * Twice last week, for about 45 minutes, some files and thumbnails failed to load and uploads failed, mostly for logged-in users. The cause is being investigated and an incident report will be available soon.

Changes later this week
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Tech News: 2022-46
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Recent changes
 * At Wikidata, an interwiki link can now point to a redirect page if certain conditions are met. This new feature is called sitelinks to redirects. It is needed when one wiki uses one page to cover multiple concepts but another wiki uses more pages to cover the same concepts. Your feedback on the talkpage of the new proposed guideline is welcome.
 * The www.wikinews.org, www.wikiversity.org , and www.wikivoyage.org portal pages now use an automated update system.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * There will be a new link to directly "Edit template data" on Template pages.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikis where mobile DiscussionTools are enabled (these ones) will soon use full CSS styling to display any templates that are placed at the top of talk pages. To adapt these “talk page boxes” for narrow mobile devices you can use media queries, such as in this example.
 * Starting in January 2023, Community Tech will be running the Community Wishlist Survey (CWS) every two years. This means that in 2024, there will be no new proposals or voting.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:53, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-47
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Recent changes
 * The display of non-free media in the search bar and for article thumbnails in Special:Search has been deactivated. Further details are in T320661.

Changes later this week
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 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

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The Signpost: 28 November 2022
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Tech News: 2022-48
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Recent changes
 * A new preference, “Enable limited width mode”, has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also available as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. It allows for increasing the width of the page for logged-out and logged-in users.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * Mathematical formulas shown in SVG image format will no longer have PNG fall-backs for browsers that don't support them. This is part of work to modernise the generation system. Showing only PNG versions was the default option until in February 2018.
 * On some wikis that use flagged revisions, a new checkbox will be added to Special:Contributions that enables you to see only the pending changes by a user.

Future changes
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ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Eddie891 · Euryalus · TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex.muller · Excirial · RedWordSmith · Ron Ritzman · TheresNoTime · Stephen

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news
 * A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget.

Arbitration
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
 * The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add  to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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Tech News: 2022-49
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Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikisources use a tool called ProofreadPage. ProofreadPage uses OpenSeadragon which is an open source tool. The OpenSeadragon JavaScript API has been significantly re-written to support dynamically loading images. The functionality provided by the older version of the API should still work but it is no longer supported. User scripts and gadgets should migrate over to the newer version of the API. The functionality provided by the newer version of the API is documented on MediaWiki.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter
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Guild of Copy Editors December 2022 Newsletter error
The GOCE December 2022 newsletter, as sent on 9 December, contains an erroneous start date for our December Blitz. The Blitz will start on 11 December rather than on 17 December, as stated in the newsletter. I'm sorry for the mistake and for disrupting your talk page; thanks for your understanding. Sent by Baffle gab1978 via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:31, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Tech News: 2022-50
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Recent changes
 * An A/B test has begun at 15 Wikipedias for DiscussionTools on mobile. Half of the editors on the mobile web site will have access to the  tool and other features.
 * The character  cannot be used in new usernames, to make usernames work better with templates. Existing usernames are not affected.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg The HTML markup used by DiscussionTools to show discussion metadata below section headings will be inserted after these headings, not inside of them. This change improves the accessibility of discussion pages for screen reader software.

Events
 * The fourth edition of the Coolest Tool Award will happen online on Friday 16 December 2022 at 17:00 UTC! The event will be live-streamed on YouTube in the MediaWiki channel and added to Commons afterwards.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:33, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Tuqaq - towards another GA
I spotted your improvements to Tuqaq; will go through them, as time permits. I hope that you have rectified the particular errors, that I had raised in the delisting process. Regards, TrangaBellam (talk) 07:48, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


 * And, might I suggest that any improvements to Magtymguly Pyragy is an exercise in futility? Simply put, there does not exist enough reliable sources to write an encyclopedic biography of the subject. TrangaBellam (talk) 07:53, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Please stop editing Tuqaq. Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 09:21, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * With regard to latest content added to improve the Magtymguly page, I believe, at the end of the day, there are set norms and standards at WP:RS to which we can refer and further be guided. I hope we will go through that together later, of course if your time permits. As for the article about Tuqaq, from where I'm standing it seems that your last statement comes close to being an expression of ownership behavior (I hope I'm wrong). Nonetheless, I'm open for cooperation and as we speak, I expect you to finish your GA re-assessment of the "Turkomans" page first, since by starting a review you have committed to complete it in a timely manner. Regards, Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  10:30, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no deadline. Please address my queries at Talk:Tuqaq. TrangaBellam (talk) 12:57, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * And at Talk:Treaty of Akhal. You will keep writing nonsense, I will keep pointing the errors, you won't learn anything ... TrangaBellam (talk) 14:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 * That was it, I'm having you reported for misconduct now. If you did your homework first, you would've found out that those "nonsense" sentences (you defined which at the article's talk page -
 * - were both actually added by you - 1. You added that baloney yourself many months ago to come later during the year and accuse me in order to discredit me? Your villainy doesn't know any boundaries.
 * I'm tired of your constant accusations, misbehavior and bias towards me which can be construed as a personal attack. I will also have to ask for another GA reviewer for Turkomans page, based on all this. I don't see a way how we two can work together from now on. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  05:20, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Report me wherever you please. Shall we take a look at the article history?
 * Version 0 - ed. VisionCurve - 11 June 2021
 * Version 1 - ed. TrangaBellam - 13 October 2021
 * Note carefully that I rewrote the unsourced content changing its meaning and did not tamper with existing citations. I (and others) do often engage in copy-edits of unsourced content.
 * Version 2 - ed. VisionCurve - 19 December 2022
 * It was your edit that gave the (demonstrably false) impression of the content being sourced. But I was mistaken in assuming that it was you who had incorporated it; it is in the article since creation:
 * Your appending of a citation to obviously inaccurate content was shabby but you deserve an apology for my mistaken assumption. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am tired of your "assumptions" really; I am tired of blocks of messages about the content of certain articles where you simultaneously employ mocking statements (you keep writing nonsense.., you won't learn anything..,, The OP exhibits a IDHT attitude and is unaware of where his competencies lie, with a sole intent to confront or inhibit my work, your unacceptable "no-edit orders" and false accusations like the one above distantly resemble wikibullying and wikihounding (like following me from place-to-place on Wikipedia, and reviewing my user's contributions; I'm talking about the Akhal treaty where you placed as blame on me for inaccurate claims whereas these were your own contributions to the page).
 * I hope you recall my messages at your talk page where I apologized for my initial, frustrating response to your previous GA reassessment work and even praised your past remarks (1) as I tried to implement your and later Gazozlu's notes as I agreed with them. However, with regard to Turkomans page, you keep buying time and it's been already 5 month since you committed to conduct the GA reassessment of that page. I posted my request for your further notes three times (1, 2, 3), but you responded to them by your laconic "Noted" and that there was no deadline.
 * Moreover, I have not nominated my other two failed GAs (Magtymguly, Tuqaq) for GA reassessment, the page on Tuqaq is not a finished article yet. But you continue to exhibit the patterns of behavior with arrogance, ridicule and satire (1), which makes me believe you are singling me out to create irritation, annoyance, and distress. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire
 * Given your history of misrepresenting sources and writing inaccurate content, I will keep a tab over your editorial activities and note misusage of sources etc. at the t/p. I do note that two experienced administrators (and others) disagreed with whatever you proposed at Talk:Babur. Both of them accused you of edit-warring, giving flippant replies, and engaging in OR but to you, the concerning part was mine discussing your antecedents with the administrator. I will let Yamla take a look. Btw, Talk:Mughal_Empire/Archive 4 is interesting too! TrangaBellam (talk) 15:34, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your last arguments are completely all over the map as it now seems that you're clinging on by your fingernails. With regard to the Babur page, there was no edit-warring at all, the history of the article's edits is for everyone to see (June 5th, 2022). In fact, it was another, experienced editor who undid the revert (dif 1, dif 2) and supported my addition. Why are you distorting facts? What are you trying to achieve? Do you want to embarrass yourself as much as when you accused me of adding "nonsense" (dif 3) to the Treaty of Akhal page (dif 4) when at the end it turned out to be actually your own contribution (dif 5)? Instead of your imaginary edit-warring, I decided to strike a happy medium and later created a whole new section on Babur's poetry, which definitely improved the page. In particular, this was my contribution to the page: Babur was an acclaimed writer, who had a profound love for literature. His library was one of his most beloved possessions that he always carried around with him, and books were one of the treasures he searched for in new conquered lands. In his memoirs, when he listed sovereigns and nobles of a conquered land, he also mentioned poets, musicians and other educated people. During his 47-year life, Babur left a rich literary and scientific heritage. He authored his famous memoir the Bāburnāma, as well as beautiful lyrical works or ghazals, treatises on Muslim jurisprudence (Mubayyin), poetics (Aruz risolasi), music, and a special calligraphy, known as khatt-i Baburi.  Babur's Bāburnāma is a collection of memoirs, written in the Chagatai language and later translated into Persian, the usual literary language of the Mughal court, during the rule of emperor Akbar. However, Babur's Turkic prose in Bāburnāma is already highly Persianized in its sentence structure, vocabulary, and morphology, and also consists of several phrases and minor poems in Persian. Babur wrote most of his poems in Chagatai Turkic, known to him as Türki, but he also composed in Persian. However, he was mostly praised for his literary works written in Turkic, which drew comparison with the poetry of Ali-Shir Nava'i.
 * Your appending of a citation to obviously inaccurate content was shabby but you deserve an apology for my mistaken assumption. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am tired of your "assumptions" really; I am tired of blocks of messages about the content of certain articles where you simultaneously employ mocking statements (you keep writing nonsense.., you won't learn anything..,, The OP exhibits a IDHT attitude and is unaware of where his competencies lie, with a sole intent to confront or inhibit my work, your unacceptable "no-edit orders" and false accusations like the one above distantly resemble wikibullying and wikihounding (like following me from place-to-place on Wikipedia, and reviewing my user's contributions; I'm talking about the Akhal treaty where you placed as blame on me for inaccurate claims whereas these were your own contributions to the page).
 * I hope you recall my messages at your talk page where I apologized for my initial, frustrating response to your previous GA reassessment work and even praised your past remarks (1) as I tried to implement your and later Gazozlu's notes as I agreed with them. However, with regard to Turkomans page, you keep buying time and it's been already 5 month since you committed to conduct the GA reassessment of that page. I posted my request for your further notes three times (1, 2, 3), but you responded to them by your laconic "Noted" and that there was no deadline.
 * Moreover, I have not nominated my other two failed GAs (Magtymguly, Tuqaq) for GA reassessment, the page on Tuqaq is not a finished article yet. But you continue to exhibit the patterns of behavior with arrogance, ridicule and satire (1), which makes me believe you are singling me out to create irritation, annoyance, and distress. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire
 * Given your history of misrepresenting sources and writing inaccurate content, I will keep a tab over your editorial activities and note misusage of sources etc. at the t/p. I do note that two experienced administrators (and others) disagreed with whatever you proposed at Talk:Babur. Both of them accused you of edit-warring, giving flippant replies, and engaging in OR but to you, the concerning part was mine discussing your antecedents with the administrator. I will let Yamla take a look. Btw, Talk:Mughal_Empire/Archive 4 is interesting too! TrangaBellam (talk) 15:34, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Your last arguments are completely all over the map as it now seems that you're clinging on by your fingernails. With regard to the Babur page, there was no edit-warring at all, the history of the article's edits is for everyone to see (June 5th, 2022). In fact, it was another, experienced editor who undid the revert (dif 1, dif 2) and supported my addition. Why are you distorting facts? What are you trying to achieve? Do you want to embarrass yourself as much as when you accused me of adding "nonsense" (dif 3) to the Treaty of Akhal page (dif 4) when at the end it turned out to be actually your own contribution (dif 5)? Instead of your imaginary edit-warring, I decided to strike a happy medium and later created a whole new section on Babur's poetry, which definitely improved the page. In particular, this was my contribution to the page: Babur was an acclaimed writer, who had a profound love for literature. His library was one of his most beloved possessions that he always carried around with him, and books were one of the treasures he searched for in new conquered lands. In his memoirs, when he listed sovereigns and nobles of a conquered land, he also mentioned poets, musicians and other educated people. During his 47-year life, Babur left a rich literary and scientific heritage. He authored his famous memoir the Bāburnāma, as well as beautiful lyrical works or ghazals, treatises on Muslim jurisprudence (Mubayyin), poetics (Aruz risolasi), music, and a special calligraphy, known as khatt-i Baburi.  Babur's Bāburnāma is a collection of memoirs, written in the Chagatai language and later translated into Persian, the usual literary language of the Mughal court, during the rule of emperor Akbar. However, Babur's Turkic prose in Bāburnāma is already highly Persianized in its sentence structure, vocabulary, and morphology, and also consists of several phrases and minor poems in Persian. Babur wrote most of his poems in Chagatai Turkic, known to him as Türki, but he also composed in Persian. However, he was mostly praised for his literary works written in Turkic, which drew comparison with the poetry of Ali-Shir Nava'i.


 * But of course, you won't mention this and my other similar contributions on the ground that it contradicts your real intent regarding me.
 * Moreover, just as Talk:Mughal_Empire/Archive 4 is interesting to you, it is interesting to me as well, because it presupposes your one particular action, which can be again, construed as WP:Wikihounding. What I mean is, just after I made my case known at that discussion (dif 6) you were first to respond and quickly sided with the user F&F against me without providing any argument for doing so:"[Detailed reply incoming]. Broadly, I am in agreement with F&F. TrangaBellam (talk) 16:03, 5 July 2022 (UTC)" Your detailed reply is still on its way, since 5th of July... This again brings us, right, to Wikihounding: "The offender usually singles out an editor by maliciously joining discussions on multiple pages or topics that editor may regularly contribute to and in order to repeatedly confront or inhibit their work". It continues with: "Wikihounding usually involves following the target from place-to-place on Wikipedia, and often can be identified by reviewing the offending user's contributions." For instance, I didn't even mention your username or pinged you when I looked for an administrator advice on our ongoing dispute and published my concern at admin Yamla's talkpage.
 * Also, last but not least, I was afraid to miss this gem - your "I will keep a tab over your editorial activities" is basically your confession in Wikihounding for me. Visioncurve Timendi causa est nescire  12:45, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I am, perhaps, one of the most active editors in topics on S. Asian history. Nonetheless, you can try convincing someone that it was wikihounding on my part.
 * As to "edit-warring", I did not accuse you but noted that administrators had accused you of such charges. In the discussion that I had linked to, Abecedare wrote, I am disappointed that an experienced editor such as yourself [VisionCurve] is edit-warring in article-space instead of discussing the issue here to arrive at a consensus.. Obviously, it might be the case that their allegations were untrue. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:00, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

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Machine translation: Plagiarism and Copyright
I do believe that your edits are unquestionably plagiarism (check relevant policies of any reputed university) but concede that Wikipedia's policy (imo) has a grey area. Please keep a tab on this thread at ANI. TrangaBellam (talk) 13:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and have a good day. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  14:13, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was unquestionably plagiarism and a copyright violation. If I see it happening again, I'll block. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * , thanks for your opinion. But why won't you provide adequate explanation to us, the amateurs, why it is unquestionably plagiarism by bringing reasonable arguments to support your claim, instead of threatening with a block? Editors were civilly discussing whether those edits fell into plagiarism or not, so I don't see a reason for making a mountain out of a molehill here. Nonetheless, I have already made my position known in the talk page that I had no objection to removing those edits if competent admins concluded it had violated Wikipedia policies. Accordingly, one may assume that I won't edit war on this one or walk into the same wall after. I would still wait for Diannaa's expertise on this one as she was pinged at ANI. Visioncurve  Timendi causa est nescire  16:17, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
 * , your argumentation at Talk:Magtymguly_Pyragy, full of links to the verifiability policy and the guideline against plagiarism, made pretty clear that you're not open to explanations about this. I'd else have provided the advice in uw-copyvio or uw-copyvio-new, but you had already passed the point of having received the necessary information. You were arguing against what multiple people had already explained to you, so I decided to make clear where the red line is. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:24, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

VC, please remove all of your machine-translated prose from other articles; otherwise, I will have to remove all content cited by you to vernacular sources. Regards, TrangaBellam (talk) 16:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Further, if you are citing a non-English source, please cite the title, journal-name, publisher and other details in the original language alongside (optional) translations. See the couple of Russian sources, I cite at Astana-Baba. TrangaBellam (talk) 11:03, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

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