User talk:Visviva/Archive2

User Categorization
You were listed on the Wikipedians/South Korea page as living in or being associated with South Korea. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in South Korea for instructions. Rmky87 16:31, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Listing Korean items
Hi, Vivusa:

When I add new articles on Korea, are they somehow (e.g., if they are linked to other Korean articles) automatically added to the list of Korean articles, or do they need to be added by hand? (I have just created a List of Korean ceramic artists and sculptors and articles/stubs on the three ceramicists I've put into the list for starters.) KIM

Mireuk-sa
I didn't know there was a page on Mireuk-sa. I made one, using the government's spelling (Miruk-sa) on their brochure that they had out at the museum. My article should be merged into Mireuk-sa. KIM

Korean Cinema -> Cinema of Korea
I moved the category as stated above, in order to match every other similar category. It's linked on one of your user subpages so I figured I'd let you know. - Bobet 17:15, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

hanja infobox
hi, i've seen the great deal of hard work you've done for wikipedia, & was wondering if you were still active. as for hanja, please note that i'm not generally against hanja, or deleting hanja in infoboxes for geography, historical figures, people with pen names, china or japan-related topics, etc etc. i just brought this up because i first noticed the seoul article infobox had the chinese spelling as hanja, which was misleading. then i noticed infoboxes for tv drama actresses, korean-american rappers, teen golfers, modern companies, even native korean words had infoboxes with hanja missing, & thought why is hanja even relevant for these topics in the english encyclopedia? encyclopedias are not dictionaries with etymology, part of speech, pronunciation, sample phrases, etc about every entry word, they are articles about the topic.

i think english wikipedia has more hanja than korean wikipedia for modern korean topics. also compare other country-related articles, they often don't even show local scripts, much less local script, two romanizations, plus rarely used historical etymological script in default infoboxes. other encyclopedias generally stop at one romanization. sure wikipedia can have more info, but how much more info is practical for english readers without adding trivial complexity?

whenever relevant, etymology should be discussed in the article body, but that should be the exception, about as often as ipa is used in articles, not a default setting for all korea-related articles. that was my thinking, & i hope you take the time to see what links to the various hanja & non-hanja infoboxes, & see i'm not campaigning for "complete elimination" of hanja, but trying to find a practical middle ground. Appleby 17:58, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Visviva, kudos for your work. I've seen a couple of ǒs and ǔs where there should be ŏs and ŭs in McCune-Reischauer romanisations, for example in the Yusin Constitution. I'm not sure whether you or somebody else put them in. Obviously, it's not a big deal, but I thought reminding somebody who works as hard on the WP as you do to distinguish between the two may save later edits on affected articles. Sorry if it wasn't you. Keep up your great work! Wikipeditor 14:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

"Nampolese"
It's just a grammatical connection (phrase?). Togo's people are described as "Togolese" so even if there's "no evidence", the people of Nampo could be called "Nampolese" due to the adjectival grammar connector (or whatever I'm trying to describe). Would you care to show me any placename that ends with "O" whose people are NOT described as "olese" and the adjective that they're instead called. Thanks. --Shultz 14:27, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * So, any idea why the people of Togo are called "Togolese" then? "Chicago" and "Mexico" didn't cross my mind that time; that's apparently because they have three syllables, as opposed to Togo and Nampo having only two. You do have a point about the people of Mokpo, Gunpo, and Dokdo. I guess no Korean placename (other than the country or two) has an adjective after all?

National treasures of Korea
Thank you so much for filling out the list of national treasures! I tried using that same web site recently, but it was down for repairs. I very much appreciate you doing this. silsor 02:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Previously I contributed this paragraph to the Kimpo/Gimpo Airport Discussion page:

“Except for the continuation of a few regular flights between Korea and Japan through Gimbo Airport, Seoul would be the largest city on the planet without its own international airport. Incheon Airport, which replaced Gimbo, is actually located in the municipality of Incheon – not Seoul.”

Within six hours Visviva removed the paragraph for lack of substantiation. OK, I am open to some creative suggestion here… how does one go about substantiating this assertion? Here is the dilemma;

The list of largest cities on Wikipedia (“List of metropolitan areas by population”) is suspect due to what appears to be jingoistic turf wars. Check the associated Discussion page, i.e. “Korean areas being moved up.” Therefore I suggest that this table is virtually useless and other sources must be used. The top five results for “world’s largest cities” on a generic search engine consistently produce these top ten (in a variety of orders):

Bombay, Delhi, Jakarta, Los Angeles, Mexico City, New York, Sao Paulo, Seoul, Tokyo, Shanghai

(Note that these are listed alphabetically in traditional English spelling in an attempt to sidestep the jingoistic turf wars)

Of these ten cities, all have international airports as referenced in Wikipedia and elsewhere. Most cities have multiple airports serving the metropolitan area, but one older (often primary) airport actually within the political administrative boundary of the city itself. Rather than listing each and every airport in a metropolitan area (i.e. Los Angeles has five) I have opted to observe the primary airport that is actually within the city The city, airport/s, and approximate number of international destinations according to the airport’s web page (not Wikipedia) are as follows:

Bombay - Chatrapati Shivaji International Airport (http://www.airportsindia.org.in/aai/mumbai/index.htm) has 45+ international airlines with dozens of flights per day to over 100 destinations

Delhi - Indira Gandhi International Airport (http://delhiairport.com/) has 35+ international airlines listed with dozens of flights per day to over 100 destinations

Jakarta - Soekarno-Hatta International Airport (http://www.angkasapura2.co.id/cabang/cgk/content.php?menu=9&page_id=2) has 20+ international airlines listed with dozens of flights per day to over 30 destinations

Los Angeles – Los Angeles International Airport (http://www.lawa.org/lax/ )50+ international airlines listed with scores of flights per day to over 150 destinations

Mexico City - Mexico City International Airport (http://www.aicm.com.mx/ ) 30 international airlines listed with dozens of flights per day to over 60 destinations

New York – John F. Kennedy International Airport (http://www.panynj.gov/aviation/jfkframe.HTM) 60+ international airlines listed with scores of flights per day to over 150 destinations

Sao Paulo - Guarulhos International Airport (http://www.infraero.gov.br/usa/item_gera.php?gi=instempr&menuid=inst) 20+ international airlines listed with dozens of flights per day to over 45 destinations

Seoul – Kimpo Airport (http://gimpo.airport.co.kr/eng/index.jsp) 4 international airlines (Japan Airlines, All Nippon Airways, Korean Air, Asiana Airlines) each with two round trip flights to Haneda per day.

Tokyo - Tokyo International Airport (http://www.tokyo-airport-bldg.co.jp/english/i_flight/index.html) 4 international airlines (Japan Airlines, All Nippon Airways, Korean Air, Asiana Airlines) each with two round trip flights to Gimpo per day.

Shanghai - Pudong International Airport (http://www.shairport.com/en/index.jsp ) 30 international airlines listed with dozens of flights per day to over 70 destinations

In all fairness, Tokyo’s Narita airport isn’t in Tokyo any more than Seoul’s Inchon Airport is in Seoul. Therefore the only fair comparison is to use Haneda Airport in central Tokyo.

Therefore, Visviva, would you be satisfied with the paragraph altered to read:

“Except for the continuation of eight daily flights between Gimpo Airport in Seoul and Haneda Airport in Tokyo, Seoul and Tokyo would be the largest cities on the planet without an international airport. Incheon Airport, which replaced Gimbo, is actually located in the municipality of Incheon – not Seoul. Narita Airport, which replaced Haneda is actually in Chiba Prefecture – not Tokyo”

Additionally, Visviva, what are your suggestions for taking all the raw information above and compressing it in to some sort of convenient substantiation?

I trust that the hasty removal of the original posting wasn’t part of the jingoistic turf war.

Cletus J. &quot;Bubba&quot; Huckabee Jr. 03:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Bilabial h in Korean?
Hello there, sorry I keep bothering you... but would you like to confirm for me if Korean does indeed have a bilabial h? I posted a little comment here. -- KittySaturn 16:55, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I am pushing for your solution
I am pushing for your No Gun Ri incident No Gun Ri massacre solution. I mentioned this solution to the two ideologues/advocates, TJive and Ruy Lopez. Hopefully we can have this resolved today if neither of them is too stubborn. Thanks for the great idea. You deserve an award. Travb 14:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia Peace Prize
I hereby bestow upon Visviva this Wikipedia Peace Prize Medal, for his igenious peace plan to stop the No Gun Ri incident/No Gun Ri massacre revert war. Congratulations and thank you.Travb 15:04, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Do-ol on Nonsan
He said it late last year at a lecture given at Konyang University. I'm not sure how to cite that for Wik. KIM

Kim sun
I found Kim sun while checking blanked pages. I restored the blanking and added a clean-up flag, but I am not sure of the contents. Could you please review? It's not clear to me if this was actually a ruler of Korea or a non-notible descedant. I picked your name to ask from the Category:Silla rulers history. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 16:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Buzz
I have added Buzz (the pop singer) to the list of Korean items even though it hasn't been made an article yet. I put it here, since I can't figure out how to list it in items needed, there being other "Buzz" entries. KIM

Kamsa hamnida!
Thank you so much for expanding my stub article on the Kisaeng. It's only right that wikipedia talk about them, and other good korean history topics for that matter.

Thank you
…for your template that does the work of four while not looking half as arcane as this one.—Wikipeditor