User talk:Visviva/Archive5

Crown of Shilla
도와주셔서 고맙습니다. 한국인이신걸 보니까 참 반갑습니다.

History Of Korea
Thank you for making that summary! --Pupster21 16:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppet suspect
... I'm not entirely sure. Is there a particular article he/she's causing trouble in? -- ran (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Tanje
Do you think Tanje is historical words?? It is used by Daejonggyo.

North Korea Wiki Project
I actually don't know much about North Korea. The Ch'onma-ho article was thanks to an article published in Armor and some web research I did thereafter, and some discussions with the author. I would be glad to join the project, but I'm afraid my services would be quite limited. JonCatalan 17:55, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for taking quick action on my dab request at BoA. --Tkynerd 19:16, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Kijong-dong
Hi Visviva- I'm suspicious of the claim at Kijong-dong that the name of the village means "Peace Village"; without knowing the hanja it's impossible to be sure what the name means, but it doesn't sound right to me (I would expect 평화의 마을). Do you happen to know where the hanja might be found? Or confirm that it's not likely to mean "Peace Village"? --Reuben 00:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Are you angry to me?
I just see the talk page of nangnang. Are you angry to my expression?? Because I know that you are not korean, I just used that kind of expression... I was not going to insult you... I am not good at english to represent the subtle meaning of english or context meaning of english. I am sorry if I made you angry. --Hairwizard91 23:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Please help
Please take a look at Demographics of South Korea. I've been trying to add content from the U.S. Library of Congress Country studies, public domain content. I thought you were supposed to add reputable content, even if you didn't know Wikipedia formatting rules, so that others could improve it. Instead, one editor keeps just deleting it, changing his reasons every time. First, he thought it was copyright violation. It wasn't. Then he complained that it wasn't wikilinked. I added wikilinks. Now he says it's irrelevant, even though it's all demographics content directly from the demographics section of the country study. I don't know what his problem is. Please help, this is a very effective way to discourage contributors. WikiWitchWest 23:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Article about Wikipedia Users
Hello,

Wikipedia user David Badagnani directed me to your user page. I am a freelance writer working on an article about the wide array of people who make Wikipedia their life, their passion, their pastime. Wikipedia “addicts” if you will. I’m looking for people just willing to tell their story of how they got sucked into the intellectual whirlwind that is Wikipedia; how you got started editing, how the obsession grew, and what you spend your time focusing on these days? Do you write articles from scratch? Is your main push toward one particular type of article? Do you patrol for typos and errors, or spend your time diligently fixing vandalism? Do you take part in the “social aspects” of Wikipedia; engaging in animated discussions or decorating your user page with all sorts of internet memes? Have you ever forced yourself to take a “Wikipedia break”? If so, what’s your 20/20 hindsight on the obsession? Basically I’m just trying to get an idea of what it’s like for various Wikipedia “addicts.” If you are interested in participating, please email me at brianwrites@gmail.com

If anybody else, other than this user is interested in participating, feel free to email me as well. This article is intended to be a light informational piece, nothing too heavy or controversial, just merely introducing readers to a subculture that they likely had no idea existed. So please don’t email me with your conspiracy theories, or your grudge against the Wikipedia hierarchy… unless it directly applies to your overall experience with the site. This article is about the USERS, not about the pros and cons of the site itself.

Thanks,

Brian68.39.158.205 01:39, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Gyeongju Basin external links...
Hi! The Gyeongju Basin article looks good. I was happy to see that you or another had linked Professor Kang B.W.'s work to that article. I was just talking with Professor Kang yesterday and he mentioned that he had recently published a revised version of that linked paper in a well-known English-language journal. I will get the info and add it as a reference sooner or later. I recall that there might be some findings about flooding or the area's early history that we may be able to incorporate in the article. Mumun 10:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC)


 * ====thank you!====
 * Hi Visviva! Thanks for looking at those articles so quickly. I'll get to work on your suggestions (or anyone else: feel free be bold, etc). I put in the links to ko:wiki because it was my intention to create Korean versions of the same articles over there as well. However, I have been lazy and I haven't even got a username for ko:wiki yet. I don't even know if we need a Korean ID card number to do this or not. Mumun 10:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Korean cuisine group
Hi, thanks for the invite. What would this involve doing? Or should I just continue doing what I'm doing? As far as I can tell, these systems and groups serve mainly to coordinate articles, tell what needs doing, etc. By the way, I gave your username to a guy in California who is writing an article about WP users. I gave him the 10 or so editors I felt to be the best I've encountered, and you were one of them. Could be interesting. Badagnani 18:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

DDV
Thanks for your comment. I agree with your suggestion; could you please edit the page to mention some of those exceptions? THanks. ( Radiant ) 13:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Biryu
Hi again. If you have time, would you mind taking a look at Biryu, to make any corrections or improvements? From the Korean encyclopedia articles, it's not clear which details are from the main legend and which are from the "alternative" legend, but it's the best I could do. The article also needs help with formatting, etc. Thanks. Goguryeo 19:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Joseonsa Pyeonsuhoe
You can find photocopy of Samguk Yusa(Jeondeok version) in here. It may be 32 or 35 page for seeing the characters interested in--Hairwizard91 22:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your invite =) I just joined. dandan xD 23:52 18 November 2006 (KST)


 * Is it possible to get rid of that page? It was mine but I forgot it ever existed! LOL Thanks, dandan xD 10:44pm 22 November 2006 (AEST)

Priority
So, top does mean not importance or priority but entrance for Korea information. If so, it is not top priority. --Hairwizard91 17:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi I just added myself to the Wikiproject Korea site. If you have any idea for maps of North Korea you want made feel free to ask. Also I had been adding and updating North Korean military articles recently, but its hard to find good information on North Korea military. I've started to used Google Earth's imaging and knowledge of what military vehicles/aircraft etc. look like in order to get some estimates on what composes North Korea's military. I haven't been adding much lately though, but I will soon, thanks.Orthuberra 10:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I got your message, sounds good on the map, I'll do one large county/province map for all of North Korea, and separate ones for each province, label and upload them and let you or the group decide how to use them. I'm already working on the map, it's gonna be big like 1100x1200 pixels, but it might be a few days since Thanksgiving is coming up and I'm busy tommorrow.Orthuberra 07:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Move
Move done, check to make sure its working?  Dei zio  talk 00:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Need romanizations
Alert - romanizations needed at Nabal (instrument). Thanks! Badagnani 05:39, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

New Chinese surname categories up for deletion
Hi, thanks a lot for that! Not sure if this is of interest to you, but a new editor has just added a number of categories for Chinese surnames, which I believe to be very useful, particularly in grouping individuals who share a common surname but use different romanizations. As is usually the case at the Categories for Deletion area, the people who frequent that place generally try to delete every new category, regardless of whether they understand its use. In this case, they seem not to understand the utility of being able to have a category for everyone with the name "Liu," for example. If you like please voice your opinion here. Badagnani 06:25, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm not sure how I missed that you were the proposer. Strange that you wouldn't agree that the sense of surname solidarity for individual (or in rare instances double) hanzi/hanja surnames (which many of my Korean and Chinese friends both feel strongly about) is of sufficient interest to allow for an grouping that would easily transcend the various romanizations. The only other way to do it is to have long lists of names in the individual surname articles. Oh, well, I'm sure I won't be able to change your mind in any case. Badagnani 07:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know about the distinction between the importance of lineage and surname but I'm sure the lineage within the surname ("clan" or whatever) is stronger than the mere surname itself, as it is in Korea. Of course, a lot of North American Chinese have falsified surnames anyway (in order to get into the U.S.), though many have preserved, in their memories, their "real" family name, which is still very meaningful to them. But once I saw those new surname categories I realized how helpful they are, to identify people with a common hanzi/hanja surname, even if they use a different romanization. Your Smith/Schmidt analogy is apt, but there are always ways to work around things like that. Badagnani 07:24, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Maps done
Main map for North Korean subdivisions is done and on respective articles, smaller province maps will be uploaded tomorrow.Orthuberra 04:38, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I uploaded the blank for North Korea on Wikimedia commons under maps/asia/korea/north korea filename DPRK_Div.png, copyright shouldn't be a problem for the original since I used a slightly older '98 US Government map (which are not copyright protected) among other things with news reports and other public information about North Korea to make this one. Anyways if you want me to make any changes to lettering on the map I will, but it will take a little. Other than that use it as you like.Orthuberra 03:41, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Taegwan
Taegwan is same to Chonma. -- ChongDae 19:50, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Baekgwa +maps
I added an empas_m variable for maps from Britannica. I have only applied it to Ryongchon. It uses the article number from empas_b, but links to the map; it requires an extra variable which I think is always "001". If you have any corrections / clean-ups, please feel free to make them. Also, I think the "001" could usually be left out if there's a way to make it default. Thanks. --Reuben 01:42, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's better. It looks good except that you still have to specify a variable under empas_m.  Otherwise nothing shows up at all.  --Reuben 01:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps we could have an empas_b without the map, and an empas_bm that includes a map link. This would break if there are ever any geographic locations where the map isn't entry #001, but I haven't seen that assumption fail so far.
 * I was also wondering if it would be useful to extend the template to have an image link. It would be something like the map link, but take two parameters: one for the image number and one for an explanatory description.  Perhaps it's more trouble than it's worth to add these, though. --Reuben 19:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history
You ever think of starting a Korean task force at WikiProject Military history? There's already a Japanese and chinese one.--D-Boy 07:14, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for input!
I would like to help out the Popular culture, and cuisine works too. I'll help out and look around. I wish to be able to contacted with more researchable materials. Thanks! -  14:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Ajaeng
Alert: romanizations needed at Ajaeng. Help appreciated. Badagnani 11:26, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations
You are probably by far the best editor to Korean related articles and you are one of the people who have contributed to the most on Wikiproject Korea. I would like to appreciate that.

scripts
Thanks for your statement on the scripts. it was a great arguement. I really like the work that WP Korea does. your translation sections helped inspire WikiProject_India/Translation!--D-Boy 07:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Indian name table
I have replied to your message at Wikipedia talk:Vernacular scripts. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 17:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

vandals...what to do?
Hi Visviva a non-korean issue, but there is a problem with serial vandals on the Regina, Saskatchewan article. i have reverted two times already today. i reported the vandalism and requested 'protect page' on some talk page that i thought was appropriate. do you think is there anything else i can do in such matters? Mumun 13:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks Visviva -- the vandalism has stopped because we pressed for semi-protection. On a different note, I in my talks with Hairwizard about Nangnang Nation, I grasped for a good example of how we might present a topic that has multiple and contested meanings. Then I saw Macedonia (terminology) and thought that the editors of that article have done a good job with an issue that is somewhat similar: Macedonia is a word that has different but related meanings to different groups. We might learn something from there about how to merge with Lelang, etc. I especially like the illustrations ㅋㅋ. Mumun 11:55, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem
Your welcome, I hope we can all better contribute to Korean related articles and improve Wikiproject Korea. Good friend100 13:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Heo Hwang-ok
In the ref section, it states that Ha & Mintz suggest that Ayuta is Ayuthia in Thailand. But heo didn't come to korea until 48 CE. the ayuthia kingdom didn't exist until 1365. thais didn't leave southern china until the 10th century CE. Something seems wrong with that statement.--D-Boy 03:36, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

images suyan rock
Image:Suyan_rock_eng.jpg is an image screen shot from a marine mapping system, I already updated the copyinfo, I can remake it by the way you suggest, but user Chris 73 keep reverting all my edits w/o reason. can you take a look. Don't you see the image is totally diferent? I redid it, all land is covered. sea is in low solution and most erea doodled. this is a whole new image.--Yeahsoo 01:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC) --You should apologize for the "brazen", Korean people will be ashamed of your rude.--Yeahsoo 17:49, 14 December 2006 (UTC) ---Nah, You are not Korean?Then what is 申承虎? Isn't that your Korean name? Anyway, it is your privacy.--Yeahsoo 02:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikilogos
I've noticed you're very involved here, you might be interested in my proposal for Wikipedia use logo variations created by members of the wiki community to mark national and international awareness days, Remembrance Days, notable anniversaries, and observance days. Please comment on Village_pump_(proposals) and on my talk page. Thanks! FrummerThanThou 05:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Korean Fauna
Hi Visviva,

I've noticed that you have been working extensively on articles related to Korean fauna. I'm wondering if you've you been doing any work on insects? Some time ago, I uploaded a picture of a strange critter while taking a stroll through Soyosan, near Dongducheon and I took a snapshot of this guy: Just on mere observation, I am guessing it is an assasin bug of the reduviidae species, but I am still not sure. I've tried doing some research, but I can't seem to find anything in English, and the fellows at the reduviidae talk page haven't been very helpful. But perhaps there is something out there written in Korean. Any ideas? I appreciate any help. Thanks! --MerkurIX(이야기하세요!)(투고) 16:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your help. It looks to me that it is indeed a species of bean bug based the wealth of informational materials you provided.  Thanks again.  --MerkurIX(이야기하세요!)(투고) 03:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Visviva/Test
First of all, thanks for the effort. Second, any chance for Bishnupriya Manipuri language (there is a separate wiki for bpy) or Kokborok? Contact for bpy and  or  for Kokborok. More people speak those than bodo, it seems. Baka man  00:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your information. If you willing to add, I post the code here. I did not add myself.

For the Language arguments:

Usingha 01:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * bishnupriya manipuri and bishnupriya_manipuri_rom


 * I added it for Usingha. Baka man  03:45, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Do check out the test I made on Ching-Thang Khomba/Testbox. Baka man  21:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

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fyi
the game is up for deletion again. Rdore 02:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Supreme Council for National Reconstruction
Hi, I see that you created the page Supreme Council for National Reconstruction. This includes and. What are these supposed to do, please? Fayenatic london 18:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, those look fine. You also put in a  function on the hanja -- I've never seen that before.  Can I put that into articles with Chinese names, song titles etc?  Are there restrictions on when it should be used in Wikipedia? Please advise!  Fayenatic london 19:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Huh?
I was surprised to learn you're not an admin. Is there any particular reason for that, or would you like a nomination?  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  11:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure. Requests for adminship/Visviva. Please answer the questions and put it on WP:RFA when done. Good luck!  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  17:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

old world rats and mice and NWRAM
i have left a solution at the discussion page but no one has provided any feedback and i fear that is why the discussion was not closed today, could you please respond so that it could be closed? I will also be contacting jc37 and headphonos, thanx! -ΖαππερΝαππερ BabelAlexandria 02:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi
Could not resist saying it (& meant to yesterday). The fact that you could happily admit a mistake and draw attention to it is great. We are made up of what we do wrong as well as what we do right - it gives me faith in you as an admin (can't say that about them all sadly). Hope it goes well and no answer required - cheers -- Herby talk thyme 13:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Six-party talks discussion page on renaming
Hey Visviva, just to let you know it seems there are far more users who want to keep the 'six-party talks' page named as such, rather than changing it like Centrx is proposing. Jsw663 08:10, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations!
Well done on getting a 98% support percentage at your RfA, that's pretty cool! A Bureaucrat will be along shortly to issue you with a shiny new set of admin tools. If you need any assistance in using them then please don't hesitate to ask and I will do my best to answer. Regards and good mopping, (aeropagitica) 06:13, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * And here he is. :) Congratulations, you're now an admin. It seems you didn't need to be so hard on yourself. You passed on the first time, and nearly unamimously. If you continue to keep up with policy and don't hesitate to ask for help when needed, I'm sure you'll do well. The community has placed it's trust in you, so don't let them down. :) Again, congrats. - Taxman Talk 07:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Turtle Ship two deck vs. three deck controversy
I would like to insert information on the current two deck vs. three deck controversy surrounding the turtle ship. Most models of the turtle ship assume it was two decked, which would put the rowing sailors in the same deck as the fighting marines. A cumbersome situation indeed. Based on a recently discovered drawing done in the 17th century, which appears to show three decked turtle ships, there has been recent scholarship in Korea that has been supporting the extra deck theory. I think the wiki article needs to address this. Do you wish to help me translate Korean sources into English to help me in this wiki update project? WangKon936 06:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Heuglin's Gull taxonomic status
Hi. Take a look at the first paragraph of the article; the various taxonomic options are summarised there. Feel free to come back to me if you need further info. SP-KP 14:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi. It's still basically an undecided question. Some authorities have adopted the split, others haven't yet but are considering it. I'm not aware of any authority which has considered it and rejected it though, so I think it's likely to just be a matter of time before it becomes widely agreed. SP-KP 11:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

ISBN problem at Gyeongju article
I'm working on cleaning up ISBNs tagged by SmackBot as being in error. The Gyeongju article has the following citation on its page. Can you help find a valid ISBN or OCLC for it? Or, maybe suggest a different book for which we can find a valid ISBN?

*

Keesiewonder 23:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me; please see correspondence on my talk page. Keesiewonder 10:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Visviva! I saw the discussion on Keesiewonder's talk page. This book is written in the Korean language, I believe? Would you have any comment on the idea of using an English-language reference (if available) rather than one in Korean? But in the mean time, do you have any suggestions on a better translation of the title? 'The nation's prayer and gut locations' seems unusual.  Could it mean something like 'The nation's sacred places?' Thanks! EdJohnston 17:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)




 * Yes, "Sites of Buddhist prayer and shamanic practice nationwide" sounds much more plausible, since it longer refers to intestines. Do you want to go ahead and update the article? Is there a reference for the statement that we shouldn't do our own translations of book titles?  That seems rather restrictive, since we are allowed to translate entire articles from other Wikipedias.


 * I found an English-language travel book in a local bookstore:
 * which has 49 pages on Gyeongju. I realize that what we need here as a reference is 'knowledge' rather than travel information, but if you have heard of that book, I wonder what you think of its suitability for the article. EdJohnston 02:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * which has 49 pages on Gyeongju. I realize that what we need here as a reference is 'knowledge' rather than travel information, but if you have heard of that book, I wonder what you think of its suitability for the article. EdJohnston 02:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Adminship
I just want to say congratulations on being an admin; your nomination was long overdue. :)

--MerkurIX(이야기하세요!)(투고) 14:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

I am so proud of you for becoming an administrator, especially now that we have an administrator for our very own Wikiproject Korea! If I had paid attention to the RFAs more regularly, I would've voted for you as soon as I saw your vote campaign. 축하합니다! --터울 09:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! I didn't realize that you were not an administrator. ^^ -- Mumun 21:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Congradulations! (Wikimachine 21:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC))

Broken heart
I have added a "" template to the article Broken heart, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Rosemary Amey 05:27, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Mikan
Hi, I think the mikan (or satsuma, as it's known in the U.S., a small orange-like citrus fruit that has a very loose skin and sweet, bright orange flesh) must also be available in South Korea. Is 귤나무 the correct name for this? Badagnani 01:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Who's who in Korean literature
I notice that on your page User:Visviva/Whos you list the ISBN for this book incorrectly. The proper ISBN is 1-56591-066-4. I've been trying to repair invalid ISBNs and a Google search turned up your page. --Droll 05:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Seolleongtang
I notice that you've made some additions to the seolleongtang entry at English Wiktionary. That's good. But the article here has been hacked up, months ago, and remained that way. Even the commonly used hanja were deleted. I hope you can help fix this, because it's very embarrassing the way it is right now. Badagnani 04:16, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I finally fixed the English at the Seolleongtang article and re-added the original hanja. I really would appreciate your input there, particularly as regards that hanja. It seems that there are conflicting opinions as to the original etymology but I don't agree that the previous one "snow + concentrated + soup" should be removed, even if it's an example of recent hanjaization or folk etymology, which I'm not entirely convinced of. Thanks, Badagnani 23:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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Sweet pickled radish
Hi, can you tell me the Korean name for "sweet pickled radish" (which is used to make gimbap, the way Japanese use tsukemono? There seems to be an article for the Japanese version of this, but none, and no mention of the Korean version.  Thanks,  Badagnani 01:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Jajang
Hi, I think we need a jajang article to go with the jajangmyeon article. Badagnani 01:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

ISBN
No problem. I've fixed over a thousand all together so far. Trying to find Korean titles was an interesting challenge of a person with no experience with Asian languages. --Droll 05:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

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Help over at CAT:CSD
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